The Syndicate

this was all on N3:

tutuu, assigned to jailkeep alison (and mac and spf but alison was revealed cop)
radishes, assigned to watch tutuu or TSP
radishes dying
tutuu roleblocked by mafia (confirmed by dizzy regardless of my alignment)
alison not dying
wilgy seeing that an investigative role visited TSP

conclusion: mafia has a redirector

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:07 am The threat of Juliets role going on Al means that I still think it unlikely the mafia risk wasting a neg action on her.

if juliets the type of person to go rogue (heh) and not follow plans?

all of the pieces of the puzzle are starting to fall together, no?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:14 am Draft 1 of the plan;

Alison just puts the cop on whoever she wants. We don't ask her to out it she can just do whatever.
TSP doctors Radishes.
Tutuu (btw can you self target?) chooses to save between Alison, Mac, SPF at her discretion (unless someone asks to not have their action delayed for their own reasons)
Radishes watches between TSP and Tutuu at his discretion (wink wink nudge nudge)
Sadly I can't out my role but I'm happy to be delayed/blocked by a JK etc. it's not that good a role
Juliets puts her protection onto Radishes so that he doesn't get his role buffed
Any protectives that exist that can't claim save between PC, Nanook, Mac, Dyachei
Dyachei just track whoever you think is most likely to carry. Likewise Wilgy (if we actually do get a pelt today).
LC target Radishes if your recipient does indeed get notified because it'll work if Juliets is covering him and won't if she's not.
Nanook target the towniest person that doesn't have cover so you have the best chance to get your double vote.
Tedxtr target Nanook.

Anyone has any better ideas shout at me.

he was assigned to watch beween tutuu and TSP

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:02 am I see. You are right.

Hmmm.

They roleblocked you when you were jailing between Alison, Myself and SPF right?

So they roleblocked you so they could do something to one of us. Not necessarily Alison though but probably.

Radishes was probably just chosen to be the kill.

Who was MR meant to watch again?

yea they blocked me while i was jailing in those 3

MR was assigned to watch me but not 100% sure. gonna check

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:59 am But it could explain what their plan was. Juliets didn't claim she was going to target Alison that night or at least it's confirmed mafia didn't know because that's what got Samu caught in the claims.

So maybe if anything this confirms that LC is a real check.

ur confusing n3 with n4

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:58 am But Juliets also targeted Alison that night so no mafia redirection can have taken place.

no she didnt target alison n3

juliets targeted alison n1

holstered n2

master radishes n3

alison n4

wilgy n5

if im 3p then juliets was roleblocked / redirected on both night 1 and night 4 (because we both targeted same person on that night and my action went thru)

much simpler world is that im just town

if she comes in and says she has used up all of her remaining shots i am also mech confirmed town no matter what

i rly hope u wont hide ur remaining shots just in case [mention]juliets[/mention]. if u have used them all up, im conf town from ur pov

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:54 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:50 am i wouldnt read into the name, but idk how its handled here

if there is no mafia redirector, then the mysteries are unresolved:

1) why was i roleblocked n3 and alison not dead

2) why did wilgy saw an "info" (investigative?) role visit TSP n3

The n3 thing isn't resolved as mafia anyway. Why would they redirect a shot on Alison to Radishes and then fire at her to shoot Radishes?

Why would a town redirector do this too?

Seems more likely to me that you are just lying about your n3 action.

what?

no, im saying they blocked me so that i cant stop them from redirecting alison to TSP, and have her get a green peek result, while hoping she targeted a mafia

if you happen to flip me you will know i am not lying

actually it is confirmed i am not lying?

dizzy tracked samu to me n3

samu flipped roleblocking action

his first ability does not visit, as elaborated by the host itt

i am mechanically confirmed to have been roleblocked n3 mac

i wouldnt read into the name, but idk how its handled here

if there is no mafia redirector, then the mysteries are unresolved:

1) why was i roleblocked n3 and alison not dead

2) why did wilgy saw an "info" (investigative?) role visit TSP n3

now im back to thinking what i did was really funny and not feeling guilty at all. mm. i guess, like, something something humans. humans. human mind. idk

(just being honest cuz im town!)

WAIT I JUST REALIZED

ME AND JULIETS CROSS-TARGETED TWICE

BOTH ON N1 AND N4 WE TARGETED ALISON

AND ON BOTH NIGHTS ALISON WAS STUCK IN A LIFT

COME ON GUYS IM TOWN

AND IM SORRY

AND IM TOWN

but it doesnt necessarily mean long con is the redirector. im not 100% sure on that

im just beyond sure the last maf is redirector

it is possible that its not long con, and that alison is still alive cuz mafia wants to get green peeked?

oh and one more thing

alison's n1 and n4 peeks were the last 2 night kills

and what was special on n1 and n4?

on n1 and n4 alison was protected by both me and juliets, so those peeks are legit

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:31 am So day 1 a lot of people were like "x is town because they're my friend" or "we are never voting off y because I love them" and I don't get that. I try to kill my friends immediately in a game of mafia, they'd do the same for me

:(

but like:

1) me getting roleblocked on n3 by Samu, and my target Alison not dying

2) wilgy seeing that TonyStarkPrime was visited by an investigative role on N3

3) mech confusion / inconsistency between dizzy / ted / tim

4) alison repeatedly not dying

all of these lead to mafia having a redirector

like i outed as 3-shot. we are out of docs. mafia easily could have killed alison last night re: point 4)

re point 3), dizzy and ted are both so towny, on top of having so much town mech stuff going for them

point 2) - obvious

point 1) - i guess we were all confused why would mafia stop my ability to protect from kill and then not kill, but what they were actually doing is stop my ability to protect my redirect and then redirect

i think all pieces of the puzzle fall together like this into one whole thing

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:26 am If someone claimed they hated tutuu we'd have to get rid of them, game be damned

i dont deserve you ;-;

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:23 am Alison does your result say the name of the player you target?

im not alison but in philosophers mafia i was cop and the host (tsp) was inconsistent in this

he once told me "Nutella is german" and other times he told me "your target is italian"

dya also said that they explicitly were told herm visited MR

but eh i dunno

i mean its pretty silly if saying the name of the person outs some info, as opposed to saying "ur target"

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:24 am Nobody hates you, quite the opposite. This is a friendly yeet we're doing

oh. well. that is much better then. i can live with it T_T

[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention] im sorry nanook and sorry for forgetting ur name too in the prev post

[mention]juliets[/mention] im sorry juliets

[mention]Long Con[/mention] im sorry long con

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] im sorry macdougall

[mention]Oddmerta[/mention] im sorry oddmerta

[mention]staypositivefriend[/mention] im sorry spf

[mention]tedxtr[/mention] im sorry ted

u guys know how i couldnt control impulse to fake that red peek in philosophers mafia and tunnel i just cant control my impulses i cant i cant i cant i cant i cant i cant im a slave to my mood im sorry please dont hate me

[mention]Alison[/mention] im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry

do u still like me

pls forgive me and love me guys im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry im sorry please love me

mfw everyone wants me dead

[mention]Alison[/mention] for your role, can you ask just in case if there is a difference between you attempting to peek a mafia, and you successfully peeking a mafia (not impeded), wrt informing them?

typo i meant town*

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:28 am Alright everyone show's ever just tell us your alignment so we can go home

3p

God thats rly fucking funny i started drooling

LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

lmao

Something something town complacency

Yall can say whatever u want bout me being a dick, but calling me a game thrower is pretty silly

Ive been putting in good, honest effort

I am town! What so u think about the existence of a mafia redirector? A lot of stuff has been said about that

Today will be a great day, ted. Im sure of it. Keep your chin up!

Im sorry

Ur coming for a hug right?

What was it about?

Rly dont think neither spf nor odd are maf. They buried so much of em. And it doesnt fit with the plan of "redirect the cop to town and make her think she green peekd a mafia". Like, u want a scummy player for that

So im gonna say im sure long con is the final mafia, and i guess spf or odd is the 3p

nah no way im skimming day 3. i dont care about the past. u dont care about the future too. the only thing that matters is here, right now

Also there isnt always scum in dizzy and ted [mention]MacDougall[/mention] my friend

I guess i need to skim day 3 and see what did the thread temperature say about what makes sense to be alisons peek. And that guy is the redirector

But it is bothering me that Samu was pushing for Godfather tinfoil... She is right

Why do that with Long Con?
Makes more sense if ur mafia redirector buddy isnt peeked yet? Or is thst overthinking it?

Assuming he cant cant consecutively target then

Alisons odd numbered peeks are compomised
And her even numbered peeks are safe

But it could be a dangerous assumption, but it is out there

Alison is also never getting night killed, so we need to work out anti tinfoil preventative measures

If all of her peeks also are potentially compromised then we arent that ahead at all imo. Ahead but not stomp-level ahead?

Juliets is gonna come, shes gonna clear me, hopefully yall wont be mad at me no more, and we will all yeet Long Con and sing Kumbaya

2 scum 1 town in long con - oddmerta - spf

[mention]juliets[/mention] HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP ur 4 shots right?

Nah!

at least u will remember me for a long time

[mention]juliets[/mention] if ur 4-shot u have used them all up. And if u werent told u have more u know for sure im town. Pls come and save my butt sis

5-shot role would be ridiculous. Might as well be unlimited, why bother 5-shot

Its a great show

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:40 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:39 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:36 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:35 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:34 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:33 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:31 am I am reading Tutuu's 3p claim and all the follow up posts and like I am so convinced she was serious lol

Ok i have to confess macdougall-kun

I am actually a way better liar than i admit to be

Thats why it reads as so convincing. I tried really hard lol

So why?

Why what?

why would you try really hard to fake being 3p convincingly during the night?

I was roleplaying Sawyer from Lost

He has been making a big impression on me lately and I even found myself doing some of his facial expressions irl

You could do that without fake claiming 3p

Have u watched Lost?

24 hours

Even if u wanna yeet me please dont ignore my arguments about the mafia reditector and LC not being clear

Pls think on that a bit

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:36 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:35 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:34 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:33 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:31 am I am reading Tutuu's 3p claim and all the follow up posts and like I am so convinced she was serious lol

Ok i have to confess macdougall-kun

I am actually a way better liar than i admit to be

Thats why it reads as so convincing. I tried really hard lol

So why?

Why what?

why would you try really hard to fake being 3p convincingly during the night?

I was roleplaying Sawyer from Lost

He has been making a big impression on me lately and I even found myself doing some of his facial expressions irl