The Syndicate

Grogu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:30 am KZA is tony good at the game? He seem full of himself. Bully

I played with him at the champs but that's not worth revisiting.

He's quite capable I'll say.

Grogu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:29 am
KZA wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:28 amOOOOOO MORE SPICE
Sadly that’s all the spice I got. Your move scum @falcon45ca

This is a slow cooker right

OOOOOO MORE SPICE

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:23 am "I was expecting him to be running this game"
sloonei with 550 posts: ???

why must you nip Sloonei suspicion in this manner

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:19 am
KZA wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:16 am
ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:10 am I betcha a nickel that my other 3 voters been slapped a big chunky TR on Tony with Blindfolds and a Donkey Tail on.

Not actually caring to ISO Tony themselves to see that most of Tony’s posts are either Fake or Forced.
Mainly Fake on that Tunnel.
I mean they claim they tunnel me but didn’t slap a vote on me yet.
Seems like a pretty weak tunnel.
But don’t worry because Tony voted me after I called them out on it.
Lol.
I did a post earlier I said he looks towny for the time but there's decent tinfoil to be had that puts him as enclave mates with a few people

But really I think he's just town
So you think this guy just jumps up straight tunnels me from the gecko (which I’ll admit I have seen town do) but then he makes some real fake looking comments towards me Day 1 and then forgets to vote me Day 2 but then when I question him and ask about tunnelling and he claims he’s tunnelling them I call him out as not voting then he jumps a vote on me. Kinda looked like he panicked and another fake post by them.
After that interaction I’m considering him about 95.5% Wolf here.

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:10 am I betcha a nickel that my other 3 voters been slapped a big chunky TR on Tony with Blindfolds and a Donkey Tail on.

Not actually caring to ISO Tony themselves to see that most of Tony’s posts are either Fake or Forced.
Mainly Fake on that Tunnel.
I mean they claim they tunnel me but didn’t slap a vote on me yet.
Seems like a pretty weak tunnel.
But don’t worry because Tony voted me after I called them out on it.
Lol.

I did a post earlier I said he looks towny for the time but there's decent tinfoil to be had that puts him as enclave mates with a few people

But really I think he's just town

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:57 am toany mindmeld

you can't mindmeld with yourself Toany

oh right Kyle is in the game

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:06 am Someone in this thread right now is not town.

probably the rock squirrel

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:48 am
KZA wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:43 am I can't figure out if I actually lose anything by claiming my faction
enclave probably have a host of potential PR claims and therefore would have a much easier time deducing your role.

yeah probably optimal not to

I don't think my role is that helpful in my hands but

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:47 am
Urist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:40 am
Grogu wrote: ↑Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:30 pm hard claim green team I think I am town I guess
i don't think it's really up for debate what he was claiming
Yeah, but this is the correct green color used for this game: #40FF40. Grogu used this one: #40BF40.

ah the old hex colour tell, definitely bagged a few wolves off that one in my day

I can't figure out if I actually lose anything by claiming my faction

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:56 pm It struck me as tonally off in a way I don't know if I can quite adequately explain but two things--

the scumread on you comes from your read on LC, and they say that LC is "very likely wolf", so presumably thinking w/w. I presume the scumread from the vote but note a bit of a deflection from making a direct read in that post. Anyways, I don't think they've interacted with LC in a way that prompts this sort of associative read. I guess you asked them for the post, so the response was forced, but ok

then back to back "You didn't explain your LC town read and I didn't like that" and "past that I still don't really get why you think the mason thing is towny", which are not two reasonable consecutive thoughts imo.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:56 pm But the tonal shift thing is good and the sort of thing town would 100 percent be thinking about so idk. I didn't really notice that sort of thing from LC

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:57 pm Like I think Esooa's scumread of LC is contrived and then the fact that they move from that to an associative scumread of Sloonei for townreading LC feels even more contrived

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:58 pm If anything Sloonei is TMIing LC as town with something like that, you don't not like that townread and still think that LC is a wolf

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:06 am hot take: KZA is Epi bait and this read from Epi is >rand town for Epi and conveys nothing about KZA

So TSP decently town

I encapsulated this quick burst of posts from him and it just feels like actual progression of him talking himself through a read and what could be going on here. It just seems real.

Last quote is simply helpful and probably rings true since Epi stated I was a tough read in Spiderverse (Epi and I both town in Spiderverse)

I'm like 99% on him not being Vault City

There's of course the tinfoil I could explore of TSP being Enclave with some combo of LC and/or Sloonei and/or Epi but I won't worry about that today and think he sounds too natural anyway

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:31 am @staypositivefriend i showed you my reads please respond

you didn't read me damnit but yes I'll coast

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:10 am What role-related stuff did Grogu do?

He claimed to be green i.e. one of the "somewhat" town roles on D0, I think that's all

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:04 am if nobody has any further questions i'll go back to coasting thanks

please stop excluding me

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:07 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:04 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:59 pm urist is right there
Well he removes Esooa, Urist, and Rej from his final pool of 5 from the wagon of 8.

Because there's not a sentence about Esooa he's scum?
KZA, what's this situation do for reads for you? The message has been talked to death, so tell me what it makes you think about people's involvement. Mine and Chop, or any of the people who have discussed it at length now and drawn conclusions from it.

You could be anything still but I'd lean town based on your part in the whole situation and Chop I think is town for weird reasons

TSP is the other important character here but I have to ISO him

Beer run

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:59 pm urist is right there

Well he removes Esooa, Urist, and Rej from his final pool of 5 from the wagon of 8.

Because there's not a sentence about Esooa he's scum?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:00 pm Three pages behind.

What time does the phase end and is there anything new past the Rej or Chop consensus?

I think we have like 19 hours and no I haven't learned anything

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:57 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:54 pm Well Esooa's name is right there?
note this:
Out of the Bo’s Voters we have:
Urist, Esooa, SPF, Martin, Rej, Alison, Grogu and Sloon.
Now Rej became a late CW so if they are wolf their wagon was most likely town driven.
I trust Urist for now at least so I’ll take him out for now, if you want to keep him in the main PoE it’s your choice but I’m removing him from it for now.
Now with the remaining SPF/Martin/Alison/Sloon/Grogu I think there is definitely at least 1 wolf within there as this wagon I think was at least somewhat scum motivated.

one name disappears

idk Chop was consistent on D1 about having Esooa and Urist as his town leans and those are the two removed

I'm not locking him as scum because he didn't put a blurb about Esooa

Well Esooa's name is right there?

@Spacedaisy Esooa wasn't mentioned at all in the message?

Looks like I might have to use more than 1 percent of my power to solve this game

ChopChop wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:20 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:19 pm Just give us some reads man
I’ve given multiple.
Any specific read/reads you want?

Just a quick summary of any stronger ones would work best for me

Just give us some reads man

I also just felt straight up good vibes from Poison so that's probably fine for today

oh the bottom 5 names are in fact 2 different colours ignore me

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:59 pm Alison
Spacedaisy
Dom
Epignosis
falcon45ca
Jackofhearts2005
KZA
MartinGG99
Poison
staypositivefriend
TonyStarkPrime
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
DaughterOfOmega
Grogu
reywaS / Kylemii
Urist
MacDougall
Marmot
Long Con
Rej
ChopChop

This rainbow does not inspire confidence. Too many of those light greens could easily be moved down. All three oranges have a little bit of OMGUS in them from me. The middle copper tier has too many names in it.

At least I feel good about the top two and bottom two.

I think of the trio of Mac/Marmot/LC, the player I'd be most comfortable moving up to green is Marmot.

am I colorblind? your words do not match what the list actually looks like lol

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:29 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:27 pm I think Mac has been reasonably clear about the depth of his reads, he's specified they're first post reads, he's read 2% of the game, etc.
Yes I know. After he tried to call you Enclave and people pointed out that that's basically a mechanical impossibility. Prior to then he'd given no direct indication that they were surface-level-at-best reads.

I'm tinfoiling you again because of ridiculous nitpicks like this

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:17 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:14 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:10 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:09 pm i think that urist is scum
Why, and which team?
see the below posts:

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:18 pm still think rej is the better execute.
it's possible he is the enclave doctor after all

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:12 pm here's a spicy take

[VOTE: alison] aubergine

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:41 am ngl i'm slowly buying into the theory that chopchop and spacedaisy are both wolves
none of his reads or his takes today feel authentic or soulful or like theyre coming from the thought process of someone who is carefully evaluating the game. his push on alison that he shortly dropped after is weird. his belief that chopchop/space are both scum that he then immediately dropped in favor of defending chop is weird. his reasoning for wanting to chop rej over chopchop is weird. his energy today compared to d2 is dramatically different, and not in a way that i particularly like. he feels somewhat deflated and like he doesn't know where to take his solving or how to position himself in the thread

he would probably be on whatever team chopchop is on, since he's been soft defending him for a while now
why are you hardtunneling me

You're being dramatic there

ChopChop wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:12 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:05 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:00 pm Everyone GTH read me imo

I have no idea what you’re doing tbh. You don’t feel like obvious town you I’ve seen once or twice but the difference is so high, it appears to be intentional.

Gth orange, I guess.
You think their the Slaver?

What do you think I am?

Everyone GTH read me imo

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:31 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:30 pm perhaps im just gullible but i feel it is entirely possible that alison mac and sloonei are all town
Why would you be gullible for believing this?

being paranoid about 3 players with big reps is fair imo I do it all the time

Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.

I kinda think she's lying

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:23 pm DOOM is in the game. I forgot that DOOM was in the game.

This is a bad sign because in Bread Mafia she went super saiyan and made herself obvtown. And even when she was being scummy in Bread Mafia she wasn't the completely AWOL kind of scummy.

@DaughterOfOmega where are you?

she's basically claimed NCR

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:59 pm Kza wolf here

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:42 pm Alright who wants some Mac reads?

ya

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:42 pm I think I'm going to ensure the deletion here.

Give no credit if a wolf and give negative credit if town, but honestly I fail to see BK not getting deleted at some point in this game given their ISO; even if I don't find it very AI overall.

[VOTE: BoKnows] aubergine

I feel like this is overexplained

unless that's NAI when it comes to Martin in particular I don't think I've played with them

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:29 pm what do we think about long con's vote on sloonei?

my gut said opportunistic while I was catching up then I forgot about it until you said this

[VOTE: Martin] aubergine

I don't feel very good about Marmot either

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:11 pm @KZA who do you like for scum on the BK wagon?

probably Rej and maybe Urist

Grogu is obviously not great but I'm hesitant there for now, would like to see if he actually talks a bit

I was also tinfoiling Sloonei yesterday but not really today

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:58 pm KZA you've said you deserve more scrutiny. Why are the mafia treating you with kid gloves? Do you feel like someone is pocketing you?

TSP what tonal differences do you feel like you have between here and Mysterious Universe?

well I asked earlier why nobody seemed to care that I pushed BK (who was town and arguably LHF) and I got 0 responses

My theory was a lot of wolves have to be on that wagon so they couldn't push me over it without appearing hypocritical

Does my theory make sense or is my push just NAI to the rest of you guys?

and yes Falcon did bring up BK first but I had a significant hand in substantiating it

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:54 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:34 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:34 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:33 pm I think Falcon has lifted all his scumreads from other people including reasoning and I trust him a whole lot less now.
i think he was the first to bring up grogu
I was
Bullshit. I call out Grogu at 2:11 on Mon, you call him out at 4:43.

I also called out BK before you, but you've also decided that you were first. Go check the ISO, I'm right. I also have been calling out Rej since....whatever. I've also been on Mac since Monday.

The idea that I'm lifting reads & reasons is false. But you bringing it up is towny, cuz I don't know that you'd push that angle if you were Wolf.

well I'm not gonna go check but fine

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:43 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:33 pm I think Falcon has lifted all his scumreads from other people including reasoning and I trust him a whole lot less now.
Including the Alison one he’s pushing hardest?

well he's not calling her mafia now is he

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:34 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:33 pm I think Falcon has lifted all his scumreads from other people including reasoning and I trust him a whole lot less now.
i think he was the first to bring up grogu

I was

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