The Syndicate

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:58 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:54 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:50 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:46 pm Marmot's Iso part 2
I don't have time to explain things, maybe tomorow if I am alive but I picked up what looked AI regarding the living players

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Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:46 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:43 pm my most hot take right now is that i find boknows mildly villagery

Ah yes, that is hot

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:47 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:37 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:30 pm

"I would vote A, B, or C" is close to the prototype for the player salad tell. It's suggestive of keeping one's options wide open when not comfortable committing to suspicions. What's holding you back from placing one of those votes right now?

that makes sense - i would say that i am thinking in salad terms right now because of the particular gamestate we're in

i'm not at a point where i can confidently point to one player and say "this person is a wolf", but i am at a point where i can point to a pool of people and say "this pool probably has wolves", and vice versa for town. the more specific wolfreads tend to come later in the game when i've had more time to interrogate people and feel things out

there's nothing particularly holding me back from making a vote right now, either. i just don't feel particularly inspired to do it at the moment. it'll happen

JJJ said this game would be easy, but it never actually is.

Also, that's a lot of adverbs and use of the word "particular" in one post.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:30 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:28 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:37 am JPIC is reading more of the thread than he lets on which is generally towny from quote unquote LHF slots.

what?

It's obviously a leaking wolfchat.

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:32 pm Marmot is scum. I say this with 100% accuracy.

@KZA you have high confidence that Marmot is scum, what gave you that confidence?

felt like his last wolf game I saw. I incorrectly scumread Marmot at points in the last 2 games I played with him but this time definitely felt different

So you had a 100% accurate SR on Marmot.

How your Poe looks like now? What confidence do you have?

JPIC and Al Sama are the only people I don't feel any towniness from (Dom doesn't count)

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:05 pm Was my drunk posting fake?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:07 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:01 pm My POE IS

Nanook
Lc
Al
Dom
bk


Would put KZA just above the PoE of five

Why not falcon?

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:03 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:58 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:54 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:53 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:37 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:35 pm lol. "fake drunk". that's the worse shade i've ever seen.

I have faked drunk in Mafia before but I don't really buy that JPIC saw those posts and thought you were up to something wolfy

Ok.

what was he trying to do as a wolf there hypothetically

Disrupt the thread and make himself believable when he ‘drunk posts’ by calling himself ‘vikkagder’.

Why else fake being drunk?

are you faking being drunk rn

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:54 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:53 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:37 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:35 pm lol. "fake drunk". that's the worse shade i've ever seen.

I have faked drunk in Mafia before but I don't really buy that JPIC saw those posts and thought you were up to something wolfy

Ok.

what was he trying to do as a wolf there hypothetically

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:39 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:37 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:35 pm lol. "fake drunk". that's the worse shade i've ever seen.

I have faked drunk in Mafia before but I don't really buy that JPIC saw those posts and thought you were up to something wolfy

he's throwing shade at me all game. he's not even trying anymore, just throws shade.

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:37 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:35 pm lol. "fake drunk". that's the worse shade i've ever seen.

I have faked drunk in Mafia before but I don't really buy that JPIC saw those posts and thought you were up to something wolfy

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:35 pm lol. "fake drunk". that's the worse shade i've ever seen.

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:51 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:44 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:43 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:22 am i hate the bk drunk posting

what was wrong with it?

Felt incredibly fake and cliche

you think he faked being drunk?

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:43 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:22 am i hate the bk drunk posting

what was wrong with it?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:49 am any idea how many wolves could be in the two teams? someone mentioned 3-3

i have no clue how multiball ratio works

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:18 am so bo is a villager. that’s good

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:10 am So it's agreed. Falcon is tomorrow's chop.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:10 am

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:16 pm [VOTE: Al-Sama] aubergine

let's have a look at this

then michelle, spf and i go for al

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:54 pm feel cute might bury tony idk

then this

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:56 pmthis is fine.

^after falcon made the tie breaking move

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:59 pm damn rip tony

someone shoot al

the flip didn't even happen by this point

w a t

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:50 pm If LC town I think JPIC wolf based on some earlier nudging

But i shouldn't pre flip that hard lol

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:54 pmIs JPIC mafia

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:55 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:38 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:17 pm

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Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:15 pm [VOTE: tedxtr] aubergine

I need to go to work shortly. I will not be back for the deadline. This is my final vote. I will reiterate the crux of my ted suspicion:

His progression on Marmot is hard to believe. It begins with this ISO post in which ted comes to a town read on Marmot. I question the authenticity of ted's analysis here: much of it is scant. He throws a few pointed questions at marmot posts, but also has 3-4 posts where says some iteration of "this is fine" without any elaboration on what is fine about those posts. The end result, in its entirety, is "marmot seems like a villager." I get that not everyone is looking to post a comprehensive argument for their worldview in every post, but this is hardly a convincing effort from ted.

Nonetheless, he does establish himself as firmly pro-Marmot in that post. Marmot is gaining some traction as a candidate at this point. Here I'd like to note that in GoC 2019, ted and I were mafia partners. Early in that game, ted voluntarily opted to go for an over-the-top strong defense of one of our partners in the thread (I think it was Mac?). So Ted is not the type of player who will shy away from bold moves like hard-defending a teammate who is under pressure. He is also a player who has shown a willingness to play into the expectations of what a mafioso is likely to do and look like in certain situations.

Having positioned himself as an opponent to the Marmot wagon, ted starts to reach out to those who are propagating it:

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:40 am alison - did you post the marmot case anywhere?

Alison provides Marmot with a fairly direct and well-substantiated response. Ted's response to that is...

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tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:07 am

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:58 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:40 am alison - did you post the marmot case anywhere?

I suspect Marmot based on one interaction.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:16 pm


This is a reasonable KZA thought.

This interaction markets itself as being two townies doing solving and analyzing each other. However reading through it I can't find any evidence that either of them genuinely care about exposing the other's alignments. It's a bunch of play-acting and blowing smoke up town's asses.

got it

and i'm fine with a kza vote since i had a few thoughts on that slot myself early on

During my exchange with ted earlier, we ended up getting stuck on the phrase "Got it" because he claims he did not respond further to Alison's case because he disagreed with it and had nothing to add, and I don't think that "Got it" is how I would respond if that was the message I was trying to convey. But that point alone is not the extent of my gripe here.
I also object to this because of overall the progression from ted. It begins with the ISO:
- Ted is presumably inspired to ISO Marmot because he is becoming a suspect.
- Ted ISOs Marmot and comes to the conclusion that he "seems like a villager."
- Ted asks a player he views as leading the charge against Marmot to explain her case; she suggests that Marmot and KZA had a potentially incriminating interaction.
- Ted acknowledges the case. Ted responds to the case by shifting his attention to KZA, expressing a willingness to vote for him.

It reads like Ted is interested in engaging in a discussion about the Marmot case at first in the interest (if he's a civilian) of developing his read further. But once he gets that case, his response feels unnatural: he does not push any further on the discussion about Marmot. He pivots instead to the other player who is mentioned in Alison's case, even though both Marmot and KZA are implicated in it.

And then there was this:

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:37 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:34 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:31 am no, but for real, apart from alison's explanation, why are people voting marmot?

What in the actual fuck?

Why do you give the faintest shit?

because he was one of my few isos that i've looked into and i came up with a slight town read and just don't see any reason to vote for him

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:58 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:50 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:45 am

if you're trolling : how is it unreasonable?

if you're not trolling : reaction tests don't work on me

The mindset required for you to take issue with that wagon requires the following steps.

1. Need to ISO Marmot
2. Discovery that he is slightly townie
3. Observation that he has a wagon
4. Recognisation that it requires flagging

My issue is in point 3 and 4.

Problem the first. SPF and Michelle are not present to answer you. That is very apparent. So nobody currently wagoning rodent boy can even answer. Which makes your question an effort in posturing.

Problem the second. Who cares about someone having a 2 vote wagon containing people that may not even be up to date on the haps in a composition where there are multiple wagons greater than said number?

because he's being voted by people that usually have good reasons for votes and i wanna see what those reasons are

which is why i'm asking about it

I highlighted this exact progression in my Ted ISO at the start of the day, so I'm repeating myself here. But Ted starts from a position that reads to me as a protest against the Marmot votes; "Marmot is being voted for little to no reason." This point is reiterated in a separate post that Ted made near EoD, here. But once Mac starts grilling him over this gripe, Ted's position changes from the apparent protest, to "The people voting for Marmot usually have good reasons, so I am interested in hearing what they have to say." But I think that looks false. For one he will later go on to dismiss the argument against Marmot as "he's not doing much", which is not a good-faith rendering of what the case was at the time. Two, he had previously asked Alison for her case against Marmot and, when he received it, did not appear remotely interested in it.
I would also like to acknowledge Mac's original gripes in the moment here: Ted's posturing about Marmot may well be hollow given the timing of it. Marmot evidently only has two votes, and they are from two players who have not been in the thread for a while, and are not there at the moment. Kudos to Mac for bringing us this exchange.

That is my major gripe with Day 1 Ted. I did not love his Day 2 either. I thought his response to my pressure (both initially and a couple of hours ago) looked like it could be ted playing up the theatrics to appear like a civilian who is bothered by pressure (refer back to my experience with Ted in GoC 2019).

I have to go. I could still see a world in which ted is town, but I also feel overwhelmingly like he is my most concrete suspect. Nanook would be my second preference after him today, but I trust you all to make the correct decisions as we move word the deadline.

I didn't read this, but it looks well thought out.


[VOTE: VOTE TED] aubergine

No mafia openly admits this imo

Why not?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:54 pm [VOTE: VOTE TSP] aubergine

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:47 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:26 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:00 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:52 am does JPIC have a large scumrange?

the only scum game i'm aware of that he's played here was radiohead, and he was outed pretty much immediately there so i'm not putting much stock in it.

I was scum in MtG which you subbed in really late. I think I was immediately obvious there as well, which I think Ted & LC can probably verify.

don’t think this is fair either

I mean, you pretty much endgamed and barely got any votes. D1 and D2 it was only me that voted for you.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:17 pm

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Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:15 pm [VOTE: tedxtr] aubergine

I need to go to work shortly. I will not be back for the deadline. This is my final vote. I will reiterate the crux of my ted suspicion:

His progression on Marmot is hard to believe. It begins with this ISO post in which ted comes to a town read on Marmot. I question the authenticity of ted's analysis here: much of it is scant. He throws a few pointed questions at marmot posts, but also has 3-4 posts where says some iteration of "this is fine" without any elaboration on what is fine about those posts. The end result, in its entirety, is "marmot seems like a villager." I get that not everyone is looking to post a comprehensive argument for their worldview in every post, but this is hardly a convincing effort from ted.

Nonetheless, he does establish himself as firmly pro-Marmot in that post. Marmot is gaining some traction as a candidate at this point. Here I'd like to note that in GoC 2019, ted and I were mafia partners. Early in that game, ted voluntarily opted to go for an over-the-top strong defense of one of our partners in the thread (I think it was Mac?). So Ted is not the type of player who will shy away from bold moves like hard-defending a teammate who is under pressure. He is also a player who has shown a willingness to play into the expectations of what a mafioso is likely to do and look like in certain situations.

Having positioned himself as an opponent to the Marmot wagon, ted starts to reach out to those who are propagating it:

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:40 am alison - did you post the marmot case anywhere?

Alison provides Marmot with a fairly direct and well-substantiated response. Ted's response to that is...

Spoiler: show

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:07 am

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:58 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:40 am alison - did you post the marmot case anywhere?

I suspect Marmot based on one interaction.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:16 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:15 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:14 pm


Maybe that wasn't the right word. I saw you called him town multiple times, but I couldn't find an explanation before.

His early case on Alison seemed like a reasonable Sloonei thought even if I didn't really agree with it

This is a reasonable KZA thought.

This interaction markets itself as being two townies doing solving and analyzing each other. However reading through it I can't find any evidence that either of them genuinely care about exposing the other's alignments. It's a bunch of play-acting and blowing smoke up town's asses.

got it

and i'm fine with a kza vote since i had a few thoughts on that slot myself early on

During my exchange with ted earlier, we ended up getting stuck on the phrase "Got it" because he claims he did not respond further to Alison's case because he disagreed with it and had nothing to add, and I don't think that "Got it" is how I would respond if that was the message I was trying to convey. But that point alone is not the extent of my gripe here.
I also object to this because of overall the progression from ted. It begins with the ISO:
- Ted is presumably inspired to ISO Marmot because he is becoming a suspect.
- Ted ISOs Marmot and comes to the conclusion that he "seems like a villager."
- Ted asks a player he views as leading the charge against Marmot to explain her case; she suggests that Marmot and KZA had a potentially incriminating interaction.
- Ted acknowledges the case. Ted responds to the case by shifting his attention to KZA, expressing a willingness to vote for him.

It reads like Ted is interested in engaging in a discussion about the Marmot case at first in the interest (if he's a civilian) of developing his read further. But once he gets that case, his response feels unnatural: he does not push any further on the discussion about Marmot. He pivots instead to the other player who is mentioned in Alison's case, even though both Marmot and KZA are implicated in it.

And then there was this:

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:37 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:34 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:31 am no, but for real, apart from alison's explanation, why are people voting marmot?

What in the actual fuck?

Why do you give the faintest shit?

because he was one of my few isos that i've looked into and i came up with a slight town read and just don't see any reason to vote for him

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:58 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:50 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:45 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:42 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:41 am are you finding it unreasonable?

No not at all quite reasonable keep at it.

if you're trolling : how is it unreasonable?

if you're not trolling : reaction tests don't work on me

The mindset required for you to take issue with that wagon requires the following steps.

1. Need to ISO Marmot
2. Discovery that he is slightly townie
3. Observation that he has a wagon
4. Recognisation that it requires flagging

My issue is in point 3 and 4.

Problem the first. SPF and Michelle are not present to answer you. That is very apparent. So nobody currently wagoning rodent boy can even answer. Which makes your question an effort in posturing.

Problem the second. Who cares about someone having a 2 vote wagon containing people that may not even be up to date on the haps in a composition where there are multiple wagons greater than said number?

because he's being voted by people that usually have good reasons for votes and i wanna see what those reasons are

which is why i'm asking about it

I highlighted this exact progression in my Ted ISO at the start of the day, so I'm repeating myself here. But Ted starts from a position that reads to me as a protest against the Marmot votes; "Marmot is being voted for little to no reason." This point is reiterated in a separate post that Ted made near EoD, here. But once Mac starts grilling him over this gripe, Ted's position changes from the apparent protest, to "The people voting for Marmot usually have good reasons, so I am interested in hearing what they have to say." But I think that looks false. For one he will later go on to dismiss the argument against Marmot as "he's not doing much", which is not a good-faith rendering of what the case was at the time. Two, he had previously asked Alison for her case against Marmot and, when he received it, did not appear remotely interested in it.
I would also like to acknowledge Mac's original gripes in the moment here: Ted's posturing about Marmot may well be hollow given the timing of it. Marmot evidently only has two votes, and they are from two players who have not been in the thread for a while, and are not there at the moment. Kudos to Mac for bringing us this exchange.

That is my major gripe with Day 1 Ted. I did not love his Day 2 either. I thought his response to my pressure (both initially and a couple of hours ago) looked like it could be ted playing up the theatrics to appear like a civilian who is bothered by pressure (refer back to my experience with Ted in GoC 2019).

I have to go. I could still see a world in which ted is town, but I also feel overwhelmingly like he is my most concrete suspect. Nanook would be my second preference after him today, but I trust you all to make the correct decisions as we move word the deadline.

I didn't read this, but it looks well thought out.


[VOTE: VOTE TED] aubergine

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:16 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:01 pm observation: i feel like tony, lc, nook and ted are suspected every game on the syndicate regardless of their alignment so it’s interesting that they’re also the candidates for today

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:09 pm @Justplayingitcool why are you voting for me? after I've defended you? never again

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:41 pm i feel like there’s probably a hostile 3P with an anticlaim mechanic that can hurt both wolves and villagers

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:04 pm @Michelle next time don't mess around, if you have mech on a hugely scumread player say so. Don't wait the whole 48 hours

TonyStarkPrime next time don't mess around, if you're so largely scumread don't get all prideful and not claim. You weren't going to be the NK ever, even if you were what are the chances we get two wolves off of you? Also now we don't have your RB and vote silence.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:00 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:52 am does JPIC have a large scumrange?

the only scum game i'm aware of that he's played here was radiohead, and he was outed pretty much immediately there so i'm not putting much stock in it.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:13 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:12 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:11 pm I might be bias but i didn’t hate that post by LC because it was also related to me

In regards to the two scum voting together post that ted talked about

it has a bit of sense but i feel like it's not a thing that would concern a villager as much as it did to LC

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:11 pm I might be bias but i didn’t hate that post by LC because it was also related to me

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:05 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:01 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:00 pm [VOTE: Al] aubergine

This is the best of the current wagons.

Do you genuinely believe Al is the scummiest active wagon or is this self pres?

Also this wording implies there is someone who you'd rather see exed over Al but who isn't an active wagon. Who is it?

It is both.

I've seen reasons for both Ted and TSP to be town. Al on the other hand posted an awkward readlist yesterday and not much since then.


If this game happens to be multi-ball, Nanook and spf should be given another look. They were both suspicions I had earlier on before they claimed mason.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:12 pm I didn't realize they were joking about it earlier, I thought it was an attempt from Nanook to shield spf, because at the time, she was taking a lot of heat.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:32 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:21 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:22 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:21 am Sloonei sloonei sloonei, why you no vote ted or tsp?

Because nanook said he townreads fingersplints and I think that's a weird read so I want to give him a chance to shield her.

What did you make of Fingers ragey reaction to Falcon when he accused her of "copying" his PoE and suspects?

Hello all,

That reaction was to Michelle, but I guess falcon was a part of it too as he did the copy thing first and then she did moments later. It’s getting increasingly more frustrating to put hours and hours into reading a thread only to be told “you’re copying. Go read the thread!” I’m trying as hard as I can but it still doesn’t seem good enough. In any normal game I’ve ever played, having as many posts as I do would be considered a great contribution. Had I known having almost 100 posts early day 2 would make me a low posting suspect, I certainly would not have signed up.

I have mentioned a few times that I am pregnant and hormonal, just in case I had a reaction like this so it wouldn’t be too surprising.

I’m once again going to be casually reading the thread today as I do some stuff around the house. Im not avoiding the thread, but I’m still dealing with the aftermath of a massive water leak earlier this year. So as mafia fatigued I am, reading the thread would probably still be preferable to my to do list today.

My thoughts have not changed since my last (“copied”) thoughts. I’m not sure they will change at all today until we are given some new information.

If anyone has any specific questions for me that they wish answered right away ask them again because I have missed them.
If anyone would like to give me a run down of the nanook case it would be greatly appreciated. I haven’t much experience there but their posting seems pretty standard to the limited townie experience I have with them.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:22 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:21 am Sloonei sloonei sloonei, why you no vote ted or tsp?

Because nanook said he townreads fingersplints and I think that's a weird read so I want to give him a chance to shield her.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:24 am

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:15 am Beer thought: sloonei has been kinda over the top when addressing OddMerta lately

Does this mean something? Idk I hope so

Sloonei is a wolf. It probably means that.

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:15 am Beer thought: sloonei has been kinda over the top when addressing OddMerta lately

Does this mean something? Idk I hope so

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:02 am I do not struggle at all to see a ted/nanook/marmot team.

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:57 pm I cannot read Nanook

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:25 pm What have we all been up to?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:01 pm nanook has been a slot that i've mostly ignored reading throughout this game, for whatever reason. i usually think that nanook's alignment is obvious as either alignment (ie: i read him as mafia immediately in the zelda mash, i read him as town immediately in bread mafia), but he's been in this weird neutral space where most of the posts that he has made have completely unmoved me in either direction. the lack of clarity that i feel about nanook's alignment indicates to me that he might just be a wolf - i am doubtful that i would have this little to say about nanook's posting if he was a villager

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:02 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:47 pm Although, I remember it striking me at the time that al didn’t vote for marmot to self-pres

Was he posting in that moment? Because a possibility for him being AFK exists.
I don't say that happened, but is possible.

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:47 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:46 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:15 pm idk if anyone has debated this but just a thought I had

Esooa is probably town because I think she would come up with a more fun wolf strategy than saying multiball sucks and coasting off early cred lol

Alison is probably town because I think she would come up with a more fun wolf strategy than claiming 3P and going afk.

I don't know this reference I don't think

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:46 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:15 pm idk if anyone has debated this but just a thought I had

Esooa is probably town because I think she would come up with a more fun wolf strategy than saying multiball sucks and coasting off early cred lol

Alison is probably town because I think she would come up with a more fun wolf strategy than claiming 3P and going afk.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:32 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:30 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:29 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:25 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:22 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:17 pm JPIC, did you copy and paste my list? Cuz im not on it.

Yes. It was a convenient way of getting all of the players names.

Addendum:

Sloonei - Started the trustfall/distrustfall exercise. Is in the same tier as SPF in not engaging the thread when it started to derail.

Eh?

It felt like there were moments in the thread where it started to derail and you two were ones that were not guilty of that if that makes sense.

Like, when it happened you tried to bring it back on track

I see. I interpreted it the other way: the thread started to derail and we stood idly by. It was confusing that that would make it into a trustfall.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:29 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:25 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:22 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:17 pm JPIC, did you copy and paste my list? Cuz im not on it.

Yes. It was a convenient way of getting all of the players names.

Addendum:

Sloonei - Started the trustfall/distrustfall exercise. Is in the same tier as SPF in not engaging the thread when it started to derail.

Eh?

It felt like there were moments in the thread where it started to derail and you two were ones that were not guilty of that if that makes sense.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:25 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:22 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:17 pm JPIC, did you copy and paste my list? Cuz im not on it.

Yes. It was a convenient way of getting all of the players names.

Addendum:

Sloonei - Started the trustfall/distrustfall exercise. Is in the same tier as SPF in not engaging the thread when it started to derail.

Eh?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:17 pm JPIC, did you copy and paste my list? Cuz im not on it.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:15 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:11 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:10 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:08 pm Trustfall

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AL_sama – Seems confused and I feel his teammates would have pushed him to post and actively tried to hunt more. Seems unaligned with marmot with how the wagonomics went D1.

Alison – Strongly hinted their role right out of the gates and I don’t feel like a mafia would have been that brazen straight away, regardless of who it is. Very believable claim and has actively tried to hunt.

BoKnows – Pie charts.

Dom – I feel like a mafia wouldn’t completely abandon their teammates like this or at the very least have asked for a sub.

Esooa – Questioning anybody who town reads them. Feel mafia would have taken the W.

falcon45ca – Not teamed with Marmot. We mind melded on the really questionable post by Marmot where he was checking the ISO of LC and saying he wouldn't vote there.

fingersplints – Feels genuine in tone. I believe their rage towards falcon.

KZA – AtE felt pretty towny day 1. Felt solvey with me on the marmot and tutuu slot on day 1 with meta reads. I want to say unaligned with marmot.

Long Con – Liked his clapback on oddmerta in day 1 with the time reads.

Michelle – Very much in her town game and play has reminded me of how she acted in GoC and seems stubborn/paranoid. The lack of elaborating her town reads on Al & ted feels towny because a wolf would have at least tried to have come up with a reason, even if it is banal.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME – I don’t really have a reason to town read nanook

Oddmerta – One of the trooper claims and is backed by Alison. His claim right after marmots flip makes me feel that they are unaligned with marmot.

staypositivefriend – Just the right amount of thread presence and has been pretty solvey.

Strawhenge – Seems relaxed and feels like he just doing his own thing

tedxtr – meta read him as town D1.

TonyStarkPrime – Has been solvey somewhat this phase and has stepped up a bit since day 1.

hally - reasons

When I did this I realised I couldn't think of a reason to townread nanook

Sounds like a cop-out to me

Is there a reason I should town read you?

In general? Idk

In a trustfall? Barring a red check there should always be something