The Syndicate

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:55 pm wtf I thought illario was mafia

nah he was obvious town

gg everyone

was actually any harmful actions

I had a 1 shot ability to make it so I couldn't be killed at night. I could choose when to deploy it

gg you did well

[VOTE: millium] aubergine

What are you thinking ilario

Vote rondo

Lily can absolutely kill the blocks have been from ilario

Vote lily

The rondo iso is like...idk how to read it

I'd prefer rondo but I don't know if lily can be a wolf ilario

[VOTE: millium] aubergine

Ilario what happened to the wolf kill n2 if lily's vest didn't pop

@Lilypetal

i dont think that wisp/illario can be a team

ugh i have to go soon because the baby is crying but I dont want to leave before EOD

wisp feels cleared from belzy spew

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 5:12 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 5:08 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 5:06 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 5:06 pm we lose the game if you vote me
???

How
2-1-4. elim me, 2-1-3

nk overnight

2-1-2 town loses
If this is actually f7 and it wasn't announced im gonna blame losing on the hosts

it's probably not lylo because if we get a wolf, the other wolf can be Rb'd

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 5:06 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 5:06 pm we lose the game if you vote me
???

How

2-1-4. elim me, 2-1-3

nk overnight

2-1-2 town loses

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:18 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:16 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:15 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:12 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:10 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:08 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:07 pm Ok, so here's where I'm at, someone correct me if wrong

Porscha targeted mac n1, making him untargetable

Tilg targeted mac and dya n1, swapping them

Belzy claims targeting mac n1 and getting a hood

So we're still at mac and belzy being outed, yeah? Cause presumably their role wouldn't have worked if porscha targeted mac

HOWEVER they're also not teamed with porscha probably? So. Multiball? Belzy mafia mac indy and the hood came from mac?

I'm confused
I think if anyone is outed it's belzy? because she would have targeted me and lied about it. like i dont think mac is outed at all
How can belzy be outed without mac also being outed ?
ok tell me if I'm thinking about this wrong

it's possible the bus drive was higher priority than porscha's action. if so, then porscha targeting mac would have targeted me. In that case belzy targeting me would have targeted mac and gone through
Is there any proof that the bus drive is even real? I have kinda half been paying attention to the Mech talk
i mean the role has flipped
oh... well.. 3 for 3

this is kind of sus if the bus drive really didnt go through like mac suggested fwiw

we lose the game if you vote me

if I were a wolf with rondo, why wouldn't I just claim a different role and have him confirm it through his ability?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:31 am
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:28 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:25 am
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:23 am Good morning. I see Santygrass is still peddling lies about me. Let me be clear: at no point in this game have I lied or gaslighted anyone. All my assertions have been based on truth; where they have been mistaken I have corrected them immediately. People are trying to use a single wrong misphrasing of mine to say that I have been pushing untruths the whole game and this is a desperate attempt by mafia to frame me. I am feeling extremely good about how they will all be outed once I flip.

Re: the ping about Mac's scum range - I had him as lock mafia before the Belzy green check
Do you think your wagon is pure?
Alison Voters: EnderWiggin, Chamomile, santygrass, MacDougall, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Ender is on thin ice and has been playing scummy all game but has been protected by an aro shield
Chamomile is either 3P or inting.
Santygrass is outed mafia.
MacDougall is green checked.
Nanook should be killed D5 if he hasn't been cleared by then but you can leave him alone for a bit.
Interesting,

[VOTE: Ender ] aubergine

looking at alison's quote within I do agree that one of those is scum. we have 3 flipped town, nanook, and ender pushing the alison wagon over porscha that day...

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:25 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:24 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:22 pm Tomorrow Rondo need to be asked why they decided to vote Porscha with how the wagons were tbh. Dont let that slide
Yes

saw nanook on porscha I am a simple man

hmm

idk how to convince you I'm town so i'm just gonna keep doing my thing

im looking through the rondo iso now.

alison had him as strong wolf. And alison is a very good player

i cant really look at nanook today because i have to leave in 10 min to bring my daughter to the doctor for a wellness appointment. I'll try when I get home

do you think theres a world where its ilario/nanook?

there's a world where im wrong on ilario. I dont think I am or at least your case hasnt convinced me, but I'm surer on ender and millium being v than ilario being v. I just can't see a world where Im wrong on rondo

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:31 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:30 pm I've already said I think you're PROBABLY 3p or villager. I cannot rule anything out though because I'm missing a lot of information.

Idk why you keep trying to get me to speak in absolutes when i lack a lot of the info that would allow it

I also STILL think your ilario case is bad and there's a good chance of a world where neither of you are wolves so this t-dome is dumb
i don't see a world where it's nook/rondo honestly

why not?

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:32 pm do we think ender can be a wolf at all?

i really dont think so with belzy spew

I've already said I think you're PROBABLY 3p or villager. I cannot rule anything out though because I'm missing a lot of information.

Idk why you keep trying to get me to speak in absolutes when i lack a lot of the info that would allow it

I also STILL think your ilario case is bad and there's a good chance of a world where neither of you are wolves so this t-dome is dumb

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:25 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:23 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:21 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:19 pm I think you didn't help town a lot when you made porscha not an elim on d2. I think that could easily be a wolf-siding 3p move. It forced us to elim a STRONG villager instead. wolves probably still had concerns about a 3p or a villager when you said you could solve porscha.
we've been over this tho i didn't force anyone to do anything. do you at least acknowledge then that I did kill Porscha, not as a wolf, and that I did get factionaled by the wolves?
i think you had to kill porscha because you backed yourself into a corner. That's not clearing. I think you got shot by wolves but there is room for a 3p shot at you there that I can't rule out
don't hedge. I didn't back myself into a corner, I was perfectly fine and being TR'd and I chose to kill Porscha. I want you to say for the record right now did wolves shoot me n2. You can't say oh it could be wolves or could be 3p

I literally can't say that for the record because I don't fucking know. it could have been wolves or 3p. you could have killed porscha for the potential clear/deepwolf status. I do not know. I think it likely means you're not a wolf, but it doesn't rule out you being 3p

if i snap a vote in lylo you can yeet me forever in whatever games we play together from here on out

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:21 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:19 pm I think you didn't help town a lot when you made porscha not an elim on d2. I think that could easily be a wolf-siding 3p move. It forced us to elim a STRONG villager instead. wolves probably still had concerns about a 3p or a villager when you said you could solve porscha.
we've been over this tho i didn't force anyone to do anything. do you at least acknowledge then that I did kill Porscha, not as a wolf, and that I did get factionaled by the wolves?

i think you had to kill porscha because you backed yourself into a corner. That's not clearing. I think you got shot by wolves but there is room for a 3p shot at you there that I can't rule out

Millium wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:20 pm Do we just fucking wing it on Rondo lmao, it's crossed my mind that dya/Rondo is a thing and they tried to clear dya with their ability which may not even be real, I feel like they haven't really tried to evaluate that slot after they used their action on them, and what it means for their read on them

i literally clled attention to the fact i dont think he's used his ability well.

Millium wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:18 pm Ĥonestly if nanook me illario Lily are all town this game isn't really winnable, and then also if we hit town today, and dyachei is a wolf they can snap end the game in lylo most likely

What a fucking threadstate

i won't though because i'm town. I don't intend to ever snap a vote in lylo because like...I need time to evaluate everyone

I think you didn't help town a lot when you made porscha not an elim on d2. I think that could easily be a wolf-siding 3p move. It forced us to elim a STRONG villager instead. wolves probably still had concerns about a 3p or a villager when you said you could solve porscha.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:13 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:10 pm lily, you're not even trying to see things from my perspective here. you can't even pretend that I'm town (which is game losing btw, because I am). Why are you SO confident that I'm a wolf? if you were a villager there should at least be some doubt but there's not
i am talking to you specifically in the offchance that you are a villager tho like what even is this post? I am trying to show you why your reads dont make sense and that I'm not a wolf or a 3p

but they do. 3p wants to win the game earlier because there's less chance of dying to a nk or an elim. You had support to get ilario yesterday (wagons were even tied at one point). Why wouldn't you keep going there?

people keep telling me to solve but lily just wants to argue with me. I can't iso and respond to her at the same time rn

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:10 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:08 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:03 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:01 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:59 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:54 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:53 pm

yes? but my point is you're talking about agenda when a 3p doesn't have an agenda here they would just let whichever side they can win with lead the way and coast

it doesn't make sense to me lol
even a bad 3p should see that it would be faster to win with the wolves here? like are you serious?
so you think I as a 3p am doming a villager while the wolves sit back and do nothing? is this a real take that ur going to act like im dumb for not understanding?
rondo isn't sitting back doing nothing for one thing

for two, nanook sitting back has been working for him

it's a real take

but regardless of that take I dont want to be forced to vote between you and ilario because i see a world where neither of you are wolves and I don't see one where rondo isnt
okay ur completely missing the point that the "agenda" you think I have makes absolutely 0 sense from your pov

if i am a 3p why am I pushing Ilario for 2 days all by myself with 0 help from any wolves

rondo put a vote? did he really do anything else? no lol

so like I am a wolf who is pushing ilario for the game winning ML or I am a villager who is trying to save the game by killing w!ilario

pick a side it aint a mastermind 3p carrying the wolf team on her back
like you had support for an ilario elim yesterday so this kind of feels like you're mistating facts again. if you're 3p you don't know who the wolves are so like...how would you know you're getting 0 support from the wolves (and you did have support yesterday from belzy)
do u think belzy would out w!ilario by not voting him there?

I'm talking about vocal support pushing Ilario. Yesterday I had Mac (who didnt end with a vote there rip we could've won by now) and that's it lol.

i don't think it's clearing for ilario, no. I think his thought process has matched mine pretty much throughout the game. when was the last time you saw 2 wolves exactly in sync like that? I don't think I've ever seen it.

also he didnt shield me all game

lily, you're not even trying to see things from my perspective here. you can't even pretend that I'm town (which is game losing btw, because I am). Why are you SO confident that I'm a wolf? if you were a villager there should at least be some doubt but there's not

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:03 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:01 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:59 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:54 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:53 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:51 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:49 pm

did u forget that this was in reference to u accusing me of being a 3p?
how does that make any difference in the math you presented in thread lily? if it's 2-1-4 rn, and we elim one villager then you literally said it would be game over overnight
yes? but my point is you're talking about agenda when a 3p doesn't have an agenda here they would just let whichever side they can win with lead the way and coast

it doesn't make sense to me lol
even a bad 3p should see that it would be faster to win with the wolves here? like are you serious?
so you think I as a 3p am doming a villager while the wolves sit back and do nothing? is this a real take that ur going to act like im dumb for not understanding?
rondo isn't sitting back doing nothing for one thing

for two, nanook sitting back has been working for him

it's a real take

but regardless of that take I dont want to be forced to vote between you and ilario because i see a world where neither of you are wolves and I don't see one where rondo isnt
okay ur completely missing the point that the "agenda" you think I have makes absolutely 0 sense from your pov

if i am a 3p why am I pushing Ilario for 2 days all by myself with 0 help from any wolves

rondo put a vote? did he really do anything else? no lol

so like I am a wolf who is pushing ilario for the game winning ML or I am a villager who is trying to save the game by killing w!ilario

pick a side it aint a mastermind 3p carrying the wolf team on her back

like you had support for an ilario elim yesterday so this kind of feels like you're mistating facts again. if you're 3p you don't know who the wolves are so like...how would you know you're getting 0 support from the wolves (and you did have support yesterday from belzy)

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:04 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:02 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:00 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:59 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:57 pm is there any reason why Illario/Dya, might not make sense?
I am still kinda humoring it
because if ilario's a wolf he's been pocketing me?
i do not think you saying "i am town" is a disqualifying reason
that's not what I said at all. If ilario is a wolf, he's been pocketing me is not the same as saying I'm town
Millium said is there any reason you and ilario being paired together wouldn't make sense and you replied "if he's a wolf he's pocketing me" which, in other words, is you saying you're town

it is in fact not a reason that ur not paired.

wolves don't pocket other wolves. But it's not discounting fypov that I could be a wolf without ilario. do you understand yet? It's saying we can't be paired if he's a wolf

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:00 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:59 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:57 pm is there any reason why Illario/Dya, might not make sense?
I am still kinda humoring it
because if ilario's a wolf he's been pocketing me?
i do not think you saying "i am town" is a disqualifying reason

that's not what I said at all. If ilario is a wolf, he's been pocketing me is not the same as saying I'm town

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:59 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:54 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:53 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:51 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:49 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:47 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:46 pm

I don't see how it can be an agenda unless I'm a wolf and he is the game winning ML. I am definitely evaluating him and have been explaining my thought process through so many posts for the last 200 posts or so
wasn't it you that said if we mis-elim today that it probably is game over?

like how is this ever a real argument from you
did u forget that this was in reference to u accusing me of being a 3p?
how does that make any difference in the math you presented in thread lily? if it's 2-1-4 rn, and we elim one villager then you literally said it would be game over overnight
yes? but my point is you're talking about agenda when a 3p doesn't have an agenda here they would just let whichever side they can win with lead the way and coast

it doesn't make sense to me lol
even a bad 3p should see that it would be faster to win with the wolves here? like are you serious?
so you think I as a 3p am doming a villager while the wolves sit back and do nothing? is this a real take that ur going to act like im dumb for not understanding?

rondo isn't sitting back doing nothing for one thing

for two, nanook sitting back has been working for him

it's a real take

but regardless of that take I dont want to be forced to vote between you and ilario because i see a world where neither of you are wolves and I don't see one where rondo isnt

Millium wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:57 pm is there any reason why Illario/Dya, might not make sense?
I am still kinda humoring it

because if ilario's a wolf he's been pocketing me?

thanks

Millium wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:53 pm I have to leave for work soon
at this point, I think if its not exactly Nanook/Rondo
I dont think its Rondo, and even then Nanook has just kinda bussed non-stop outside his meme vote on Alison

second line feels like a thought stopped short. can you finish the thought there?

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