he's someone that's difficult for me to read on the regular amy, but he's been one of the only people seeing things from my perspectiveAmy wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:32 pmfor the record, nl's only played against my towngame once before this that i can recall, and that was rocksstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:28 pm is it unreasonable for me to assume that outed wolf's wolf equity increases significantly if amy is a villager?
dont wanna seem like im setting up chops, but i was just thinking about how outed wolf and amy seem to have a unique dynamic where outed wolf is (presumably?) very good at correctly identifying amy's alignment, and he is confident that amy is a wolf. dyachei has a similar dynamic and claims to have the opposite impression. my gut tells me that an amy/dya wolfteam is too easy - it's just such a level 0 solve
every other time i've played against him i THINK has been a wolfgame
and he's caught me in most of those games, yes
but given current events, i'm not convinced that means he has a good read on me
i don't think his tone in hydra was particularly gaf
think that attitude is pretty NAI for zack
i'm assuming you haven't given him too much thought beyond that?
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I mean you've had time. on questioning I would hope you'd be able to remember 1 fucking detail about why she's town now. It clearly made a huge impressionc4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 9:27 pmYeah this is a wolf lol
"Hey everyone come look at this one read that changed"
"Not pulling quotes immediately? Sus."
Just finding some random petty shit to cling to
Busywork? Distraction? Fuck if I know.
Just take that explanation I just gave Dizzy if you want to understand my spf townread
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I want you to be left alone, I think you're highly likely to be town
I want alison to be elimmed
I want more people to look at the case I posted with c4
I'm not sure what the case is even on you other than alison's case that you were setting up mis-elims which feels like agenda to me because villagers can do things that look like that easily and Idon't think you as a wolf would be that brazen
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the read hasn't weakened over time, my busy-ness has. I had work and now am dealing with some stuff on MU and trying to catch up on reading certain things
but like no one's listening to me anyway
but like no one's listening to me anyway
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im pretty confident. Even when everyone else thinks you're scum I've been able to find you as town. like in anni last year
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sunbae, wanna talk about the c4 thing I found in his iso?
- Fri May 28, 2021 8:58 pm
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@c4e5g3d5 that is the progression case. what the hell happened to make you 180 your read on spf that suddenly
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@sunbae I've been reading c4's ISO as promised
I feel like a lot of his reads don't have a ton of nuance in them, but the spf read does
I feel like a lot of his reads don't have a ton of nuance in them, but the spf read does
so he talks about and votes spf early in the game. he pushes it to this degree, too
here's some of the basis for his spf scum read. He's also claimed to have quite the ability to read herc4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:33 pmAbove: what bothered Amy
Below: "Hey Amy what bothered you?"
Doesn't look like a question actually meant to figure something out
Just general overexplanation, she could've just said "genuine" and have been done with it.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 7:26 pm (i actually do sort of townread amy because i think that occam's razor points to her suspicion about zack being genuine)
Little things, but they're things I very distinctly see from her wolf game and not from her town game. Her writing more words than she actually means is a tell I've caught her on quickly before.
here we see more reasoning. I think this is good and shows that he's evaluating the players he knows well first.c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:15 amThe best way I can describe it isTangrowth wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 10:18 pm Does someone want to talk to me about how to find spf as town (or scum, for that matter)? I saw her play in some of Jay's games I spectated but beyond that I'm at a loss for what she's said so far, it was... thorough. But I don't think I'd call spf a town read or anything.
As town, she thinks
As wolf, she writes
In her wolf posts, there's some sense of architecture to the ideas, and she writes for show a lot. As town she plays by discovery, and her posts make it obvious she's thinking out loud. She's one of the easiest reads out there if you know what you're doing.
Welcome to Alison
This is a thing that'll happen, don't mind it for now.
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Caught up, strongest reads off of memory are sunbae and Vulgard always town
See here, he has his own guide to reading her so his wolf read on her feels fairly nuanced, he's experienced, etc. I felt pretty good about him for this case in generalc4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 7:57 pmJust gotta pop in with even more wolfy IIOA to say that players' alignments aren't independent so it would actually be
1- (13/17) * (12/16) * (11/15) * (10/14) * (9/13) = 56.1%
Since spf posted her own spf reading guide, here's my less boring spf reading guide from the same game. Spoiler alert, it worked.
until I got to here
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can you explain why you're voting alison?
- Fri May 28, 2021 4:06 pm
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hmm I don't think those thoughts are mutually exclusive though. Let me see if I can explain it. I don't know that he has dizzy as definite town, but just likes one thing dizzy did. And he's rethinking it because it could be TMI or the like. So he's questioning himself tooVulgard wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 4:04 pm Amy, why is Visor town?
@dyachei Here:
bronana wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 4:29 amat the time i was thinking a wolf would probably either bus to some degree or try to subtly steer the yeet elsewhere (if gav is a wolf), or encourage the wagon or at least not get in the way if he's town. Thinking about it now though I think it could make some sense as a TMI white knighting of a villager, or just some other kind of brazen play. Tangentially related, I'm a little worried that people cleared dizzy way too easily.
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the thing that made c4 a villager to me was in his entrance he was NOTHING like Congress of Vienna, where he was easy to pick out as wolf by d1/d2.sunbae wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 4:00 pm Hey Dya, I think you'd agree I've done a fair amount of attempting to figure out your alignment and stuff. Can you do me a favor and read up on c4 for me and tell me your thoughts? Like, not a "off the top of my head I think X" but after actually reading through their iso? I feel like that's a spot I've been calling town from gut reactions to posts and need an overview of again and could use some opinions. Plus, it would help having you branch out into other directions for a little bit for me.
I'll ISO for you but probably only after work and I'm here for another couple of hours.
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careful now, you're gonna upset the status quo on that readbronana wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 3:55 pm i think the amy/dya dynamic makes more sense to me as w/v or v/v than as w/w
like one is a wolf and because of their usual dynamic in games is reluctant to really go after the other and so doesn't know wtf to do (this applies more to amy than dya)
or they're both town and right on each other
play seems weird as w/w
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can you quote a post where you think zack is not excited about other people v reading dizzy? i must have missed this or somethingVulgard wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 3:23 pm Bronana / Zack:
- First take on Gavial is that his posts didn't make any impression.
- Notes that Gavial seems to have a polarized meta but doesn't comment on it beyond that.
- Claims Gavial would get bussed hard if he was a wolf. ...For some reason, I dislike this comment. It looks TMI-ish to me, even though the actual wording is fine. I'll bring it up here for clarity.
- Immediately followed by asking Gavial... this. I'm going to quote this post as well, so I can check if other people see what I'm seeing. I get the impression these two posts are TMI on Gavial being a villager, even though the actual wording looks fine.bronana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:17 pmI came into this game gavial would get bussed hard if he's a wolf, based on how his meta has been described.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:03 pmhow does that work?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:02 pm If you believe Gavial is mafia, we should chop someone on his wagon right now. There will be mafia there if Gavial is mafia.
Plus any random grouping of five players has approximately a 75% chance of having at least one wolf, if my math is right.
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I really think this is Zack talking to someone he knows is a villager and checking if he's going to damn himself further or not.
- Calls Gavial outright mafia after this.
- Dya is the other wolfread at the time.
- Claims he doesn't see the point of Dizzy treating Gavial like they did regardless of Gavial's alignment. It's a sentiment I actually share and it's a major reason why I townread Dizzy. That said, I'm not sure if Zack is the person who came out with this take first, and I also find it decently likely this could come from a wolf, so I'm not awarding him many townpoints for it.
- Bounces off Amy's wolfread on Gavial and agrees (and reiterates) that Gavial is playing nothing like his towngame.
- I ask about his take on Dizzy implying Dizzy isn't a wolf because of their odd treatment of Gavial. Zack responds to it, and the response is FINE, but he writes an addendum that "he's a little worried that people cleared Dizzy way too easily." I dislike this. It's hedgy, and it also reads like "I think this points to Dizzy being town (treatment of Gavial) but they also don't deserve an easy clear so don't actually call them locktown please." I didn't notice this on my first reading, but I think it's wolfy now, unless Dizzy is a wolf (I don't think wolf!Zack adds this comment if he was talking about his partner Dizzy rather than v!Dizzy; he can just rep a townread without consequence, boosting his teammate's position in the game).
- Claims Gavial is doing nothing.
- Claims Gavial and KZA are his top wolfreads when Nutella asks him about... dya. When it comes to Dya, Zack apparently has no idea anymore, since he posted a shrug emoji.
- Has no idea what KZA is even posting, which is something I actually vibed with back when I saw it. Could see this being W/W with KZA, though. It isn't actually calling KZA mafia, it's more like a sign of confusion/exasperation/whatever.
- Wonders about Arete potentially townreading Gavial.
- Asks SPF about potential bussers of Gavial. Noting here that SPF is actually saying she's 70% confident Gavial's mafia, not 100%. Basically preflipping Gavial as mafia here, assuming the question is even genuine.
- Keeps discussing how nonsensical KZA's treatment of Gavial is. It looks pretty decent in a vacuum since he's discussing a wolf's nonsensical posting. The fact he's following up on his prior suspicion is a good look, I don't see him visibly pushing on KZA, though. I'm noting the absence of concern over Gavial's alignment; he does ask Arete why they're potentially TRing Gavial (that's the implication of their singular "oh?" aimed at Arete) but doesn't follow it up with any behavioral change or anything.
- Votes Gavial despite discussing KZA's nonsensical treatment of Gavial for a while. ...Hm.
Overall, I have several points of concern. The treatment of Gavial looks decent overall, but there are several points where I suspect Zack has TMI on Gavial being a villager, particularly in the two posts I put in quotes. There's also the little interaction we had about his read on Dizzy @ Dizzy's treatment of Gavial, where it felt like he didn't want Dizzy to be too townread from it despite voicing the townlean himself. He also has a profound lack of interest in Gavial, particularly after it became clear Gavial was going to be yeeted day 1. He does question KZA a fair bit, but never pushes for KZA over Gavial. He seems surprisingly content about the state of affairs, neither committing to the Gavial yeet too hard (outside of quietly supporting it) nor trying to get KZA yeeted (though he did call KZA's train of thought incomprehensible).
I still think Zack could be town despite this. It's possible I misattributed signs of TMI to his posts there, particularly since I admit the language itself shouldn't be concerning. But I still get the impression that he's just mafia.
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it has made me lean her the lightest of vstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 3:20 pm @dya - thanks - how does that play into your thought from a couple of posts ago that nutella OMGUS'ing you on the last page is making it easier for you to read her? has that helped move the needle for you in either direction even if you're still not sure?
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I don't have them as wolfy but their tone is off too. I dont know how much of that is game format and how much of that isn't. So they're in my null pile. I don't feel like I can call them lightly villagery but I don't think they're wolfy for it either. I guess that's the definition of a hedgy answerstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 3:07 pm dyachei, what is your general read of nutella right now? do you have a stance on her one way or another? the exchange on the last page where you said that she felt less fluid to you made me think that you wolfread her, but i dont wanna misrepresent you
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I explained this d1. your tone feels off to me like it did in the game you were 3p. but we don't have 3p in this game. Maybe it is due to the format of the game. but it's something I'm aware of and I can't just ignore itnutella wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 3:06 pm also, dya, if you fully accept chloe as town, you should honor her read on me. i'm not saying fully accept godreads or whatever bc i know that's annoying (and a pain to wolf against especially lol), but if you really want to solve me at least consider it with some weight
ok that's all. if i say anything else i'll go further in a direction i dont really wanna go
alright i just mean when you say i'm not fluid i find it hard to believe
and re: alison, fine. i want her to post more as well.
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I didnt even wolf read you lmaonutella wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 2:54 pmI have been fluid and transparent and you can see the stream-of-consciousness in my posts, I've changed my mind back and forth on multiple reads including you, sure it looks different because it's a post-capped game and I'm condensing more thoughts into single posts but I think it should be fairly clear if you actually read through my posts that I'm not holding back any ideas that pass into my headdyachei wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 2:39 pmnot like you normally do, no. you feel less fluid to me than normal
The more you say dismissive things like this without backing them up the more I think you're just a wolf just throwing stuff at the wall rather than a villager with any kind of coherent approach to solving via the thread. But through a decent chunk of last night I considered you could be town-- if you are I understand wanting to just low-effort the game and push your strongest scumread in alison, but I also want you to develop your reasoning further both on that and on your read of me. I feel like you haven't really backed anything up especially with these assertions about me, and it really just feels like you're throwing shade to look contrarian and aren't actually interested in solving my alignment.
dyachei wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 2:48 pmyou've been on my case for stupid little things since d1. sorry YOU think I'm flinging shit at you. Maybe consider your own actions here
yeah okay i'm just not engaging with you anymore. it's not stupid little things. it's your entire approach to the game, and when your only response is omgus like this, it's not a good look. back your shit up or die.
maybe stop getting tilted at me for not doing what you want me to do.
I get what you want but until alison actually posts more do you think I'll be able to build on my case? answer honestly now
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you've been on my case for stupid little things since d1. sorry YOU think I'm flinging shit at you. Maybe consider your own actions here
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not like you normally do, no. you feel less fluid to me than normal
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it's tilting me you're just dismissive of my feelings on Alison
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but she does usually overthink her plays to a ridiculous degreeVulgard wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 2:34 pm By the way, I've wolfed with Alison twice. She was LW one time, but still. I've already mentioned this before. Alison may be a smart player, but I think assuming she always pulls 300 IQ gigabrain plays is fallacious.
Will get back to my hunting in 30 minutes or so. Expect most of my content to come out today because tomorrow I'll be busy all day. Should be able to swap my vote if needed, though.
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you're not doing your normal bouncing around thing this game. I'm so glad that you decided to OMGUS and such though. It helps me read you
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I'm listening I just don't agree nutella. you telling me things doesn't mean I'm going to agree with them just because you have your perspective. Hell I'm not even leaning you villa yet, why would I trust what you're saying over my own thoughts on it.nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 2:20 pmyou're still ENTIRELY missing my point and vulgard'sdyachei wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 1:57 pm you keep getting frustrated at my process though. It's not dismissive to point out that alison is better than that. It's just fucking TRUE. Alison is usually highly involved in games and gives good reasons for her reads. she's not doing that here. so I guess suck eggs
reread his post
he explains why alison's progression makes sense from an uninformed perspective, and why if she was a wolf her strategy would be different
and like.... this response is just continuing to be dismissive tbh. I've stated MULTIPLE times that I've seen Alison take a more laid back approach as town many times, and you're not actually delving into why you think her approach is indicative of her having wolf pov or not besides just saying "she had tmi" over and over
i'm really set off by this response because you're just not listening to anything i've said about alison at all
thanks for the takes on amy and zack
so be tilted, Idfc
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you keep getting frustrated at my process though. It's not dismissive to point out that alison is better than that. It's just fucking TRUE. Alison is usually highly involved in games and gives good reasons for her reads. she's not doing that here. so I guess suck eggsnutella wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 1:46 pmSpoiler: show
oof. these zack and amy posts only made me feel better about my solve
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these additional points from dizzy i think are actually really good. those are both the kind of things that can show actual tmi from a wolf
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good vulgard posts that i agree with
also the one about amy which is getting me to consider a world where amy is a wolf and dya isn't
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you're defensive about having given more reads and yet... i just feel like every time you enter thread your focus is so narrow and you only reply to like 2 specific things at a time and i never know what your like, broader thoughts are at any given time
would love more transparency into your thoughts in general, i get that it's a light game and you dont want to put in a ton of effort or change your style but i just feel like some entire dimension is missing
like i can name some of your townreads, like chloe, visor, amy, but i don't have a lot of insight into your pov
i do fully agree with you about chloe, i'm quite confident she's just a villager at this point.
also, i think your response to vulgard's alison read is dismissive and shallow. it's like you're waving your hand and saying "no alison is better than that and would have deeper strategy" without actually digging into vulgard's reasoning and how he is in fact accounting for that. it also seems contradictory to say "she's aware of how her reads make her look, and also she obviously had TMI." honestly if you're town i think there's a decent chance you are right about alison by sheer poe, but i want to see you actually considering the angles of why her sorta messy progression on gav might actually come from an uninformed place.
finally, would love to hear more thoughts from you specifically on amy and zack with an updated view to their posts this phase and what you think they are accomplishing in thread, and what you think of the gripes that i, visor, vulgard, dizzy, etc have expressed. i'd like you to examine whether your earlier reasons to townread amy have really held up through d2.
My read on amy hasn't changed for the most part. I think other people are doubting her but that's par for the course for amy being amy. People always start suspecting her more after a day phase. I've dealt with it first hand. As for zack, zack is slipping for me. I don't think he's done enough and at this point that's bad. I just don't feel like I even know his reads.
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honestly he said something really snarky and fun not that long ago and that's when i felt he was villa
I haven't seen visor as a wolf in a long time, but I'm usually decent at finding him as villa
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I think she was just TMI-ing someone that's clearly not like the others in this playlist (and lhf) to look good. alison can be very manipulative with her reads, she knows how people perceive them
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the wagon on him always seemed a lot shorter than the wagon on gavVulgard wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 11:37 am There was a real KZA wagon at various points d1, including EoD. He doesn't survive n1 99% of the time because of the n1 vig existing and the various calls to vig him, but there was the 1% chance of the vig getting roleblocked which I'm trying to take into account.
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marl, you keep comparing this game to reflections but I want to be clear there are problems with that
I didnt know I'd be subbing in for a wolf in reflections and worked hard but HATED every minute of it (and playing with a group of people that got toxic on each other very easily). I'm excited to play this game, I'm just in light game mode. I wanted out of the thread every minute I was in it htere. IT's kind of confusing to me that people think I have that kind of tone because I'm happy to be in this game and it's probably why I hit cap yesterday. I get irritated at being wolf read as both alignments. perhaps you don't remember ice cream mafia
I didnt know I'd be subbing in for a wolf in reflections and worked hard but HATED every minute of it (and playing with a group of people that got toxic on each other very easily). I'm excited to play this game, I'm just in light game mode. I wanted out of the thread every minute I was in it htere. IT's kind of confusing to me that people think I have that kind of tone because I'm happy to be in this game and it's probably why I hit cap yesterday. I get irritated at being wolf read as both alignments. perhaps you don't remember ice cream mafia
- Fri May 28, 2021 11:35 am
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I think your townread of alison is naive. I think it looks at level 1 play and I think alison plays at a higher level than that.
do you think there was actually a chance kza gets elimmed yesterday?
do you think there was actually a chance kza gets elimmed yesterday?
- Fri May 28, 2021 11:32 am
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vulgard - how many games have you played with alison?
- Fri May 28, 2021 11:32 am
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@outed wolf I may have history with gav but I don't remember it. I vaguely remember playing with them though?
- Fri May 28, 2021 11:30 am
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im kind of offended people think i havent given reads outside of alison because i have
i'm also solidifying my read on tangy/chloe today. I think chloe's behavior in thread makes sense from her perspective as a sub thrown into this game. I like that she's taking small bites to read people instead of trying everyone at once? feel like a wolf would share reads more certainly than she has
i'm also solidifying my read on tangy/chloe today. I think chloe's behavior in thread makes sense from her perspective as a sub thrown into this game. I like that she's taking small bites to read people instead of trying everyone at once? feel like a wolf would share reads more certainly than she has
- Thu May 27, 2021 9:41 pm
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see this is good shitsunbae wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 9:38 pmnutellas posts regarding gav and kza read to me as someone that knows both are flipping by start of d2 and is just getting the easy kza "cred"
Off TopicHally: the play makes no sense from kza's perspective if he's partnered with gav
it's possible he's tmi-ing him town or it's possible he's town with a ??? take but i dont see what kza has to gain from his posts on gav if they are partnered
Nutella: i think it's decently likely theyre just both wolves
it's not like kza really committed to a strong read on gav, just sort of waved his hand a bit
it's possible he has tmi and gav is actually town but mehOff TopicNutella: vulgards confidence on gav flipping wolf solidifies mine as well, though I was already pretty confident based on how he's behaving
probably keeping symbolic vote on dya for the heck of it
Kza us probably just a wolf too atpOff Topicc4: do i need to bother making a read on kza
nutella: na, assuming gav chop vig get kzaOff Topicamy: i think we stick with gav here?
Nutella: yeah it's prob better to just stick with him
idk
my vote is on kza and i think he has an equal if not higher chance of flipping wolf and i'd be happy with either going over
fight me on that if you want, i get the appeal of just flipping gav regardless
That is someone that knows Gav is flipping villa and kza is dead too and wants the kza cred early
- Thu May 27, 2021 9:26 pm
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they also didn't do anything. and people I think know them better were saying they were wolf. But I didn't feel strongly about their flip yesterdaybronana wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 9:24 pmhmm? you called kza a wolf lean at eod with your last postdyachei wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 9:22 pmi struggled with his wagon all day yesterday. I told myself pre game I wouldn't just vote him because he's not one of the people I enjoy playing with so I treated him early like he was lhf and not a real read. By the end of the day I still wasnt sure becuase I had a stronger wolf read on alison and she seemed to be treating him as a villager. I ended up on him at EOD because I wanted my vote to count and kza felt like randnutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 9:20 pmi still don't understand what your view was on gav at any point yesterday, like at points you seemed to fully endorse his wagon and think he was going to flip wolf, but you kept also saying that if he didn't then alison w
it just all feels a little convenient to me and i didn't find a coherent thread through your posts as to whether you ever directly suspected gav
dyachei wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 5:37 pmamyc4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 5:35 pm spf sunbae Vulgard 3/3 core
nut prolly threadspewed
Couldn't give fewer shits about dya unless Seth flips green
Couldn't give fewer shits about Hally and Zack unless KZA flips green
Alison
Amy
Arete
Dyslexicon
Marluxion
outed wolf
Tangrowth
Someone gimme their most urgent legacy top townie in that bunch
and with that, I'm done posting so here's a reads list
V
Amy
Tangy
V lean
c4
sunbae
vulgard
dunno what to do with
nutella
hally
zack
visor
dizzy
arete
spf
w lean
gav
kza
w
alison
- Thu May 27, 2021 9:25 pm
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my reads have changed though? at least to some degree. I think visor has been villa today when I thought he was kind of just null yesterday
but i dont really remember a ton of posts without isoing. and I'm not willing to iso. I joined this game because it's a light game and I have other responsibilities for this month and the next few
but i dont really remember a ton of posts without isoing. and I'm not willing to iso. I joined this game because it's a light game and I have other responsibilities for this month and the next few
- Thu May 27, 2021 9:23 pm
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- Thu May 27, 2021 9:22 pm
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i struggled with his wagon all day yesterday. I told myself pre game I wouldn't just vote him because he's not one of the people I enjoy playing with so I treated him early like he was lhf and not a real read. By the end of the day I still wasnt sure becuase I had a stronger wolf read on alison and she seemed to be treating him as a villager. I ended up on him at EOD because I wanted my vote to count and kza felt like randnutella wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 9:20 pmi still don't understand what your view was on gav at any point yesterday, like at points you seemed to fully endorse his wagon and think he was going to flip wolf, but you kept also saying that if he didn't then alison w
it just all feels a little convenient to me and i didn't find a coherent thread through your posts as to whether you ever directly suspected gav
- Thu May 27, 2021 9:19 pm
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Me: plays a light game
Everyone else: why isnt dya doing more
Everyone else: why isnt dya doing more
- Thu May 27, 2021 9:17 pm
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if I feel pretty static it's because Im not planning on isoing people this game
- Thu May 27, 2021 9:15 pm
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like why would my read on alison change because what I thought yesterday actually happened spf
- Thu May 27, 2021 9:15 pm
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some of my reasons to wolf read her are the same, yes. It turns out that what I worried about yesterday happened with gavstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 9:13 pmshe mentioned a couple of times that she was catching up with the thread out of order though, yeah? so why is it wolfy for her to catch-up in that specific way? is the implication that you think alison was told by her partners that you were calling gav anti-town? or that she was pretending to re-read?dyachei wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 9:10 pmlike this, sunbae. she knew I was calling gav anti-town but she was still catching up on the gameAlison wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:05 pmBecause I'm hearing people like dya say that he's anti-town, and I think Gavial is rand. So I put in my two cents about Gavial's meta.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:03 pm i'm not voting gavial for being anti-town. he can be anti-town all he wants. i'm voting gavial for being wolfy. i am willing to listen if people feel that he's still within his village meta or if they feel that he's rand, but i dont get why youre framing the votes on gavial as being about gavial being "anti-town" when they're actually about gavial being wolfy
an issue i've been having is that i notice a sense of repetition in your posts (this was something i pointed out on d1 as well, but to a lesser extent) - the point that you're making about alison right now is the same point that you made about her on d1. the point that you made about tangrowth a couple of posts ago is the same point you made about her on d1. all of these points are logical, but i don't get the sense that your reads and your overall understanding of the game is shifting as the game progresses - it's feel to me more like you've chosen a couple of specific names (alison, tangygrowth) to focus on and reiterate the same narratives about
that might not be entirely fair to you, but it's the impression i've gotten so far
- Thu May 27, 2021 9:14 pm
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hally kill is really weird. I thought their stand offish attitude yesterday was slightly wolfy but some of the things they were doing were villa. I couldnt really decide what to do with them and thought they might be someone people look at more closely today
- Thu May 27, 2021 9:11 pm
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spf is always a difficult read for me. I found her in CoV by being unable to clear her so I'm not really sure what she does differently as a wolf (yes, even though she posted the guide)sunbae wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 9:07 pm Understandable re: can't explain it better. Sadly I don't have the most experience (though the little experience I do have has been massively pleasant!) so it's hard for me to follow that one.
You got any SPF thoughts? Seems like people are locking in town there but i gotta be honest, I got super spooked with pr-hally getting blasted overnight because I know spf/hally are like, super knowledgeable with each other lol
- Thu May 27, 2021 9:10 pm
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like this, sunbae. she knew I was calling gav anti-town but she was still catching up on the gameAlison wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:05 pmBecause I'm hearing people like dya say that he's anti-town, and I think Gavial is rand. So I put in my two cents about Gavial's meta.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:03 pm i'm not voting gavial for being anti-town. he can be anti-town all he wants. i'm voting gavial for being wolfy. i am willing to listen if people feel that he's still within his village meta or if they feel that he's rand, but i dont get why youre framing the votes on gavial as being about gavial being "anti-town" when they're actually about gavial being wolfy