The Syndicate

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:07 pm
LordQuas wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:06 pm there's probably a deep wolf, i doubt game is this ez

but when you're expecting a deep wolf you dont start blasting the towncore over the poe that likely still has a couple wolves left in it
Deepwolf candidates:

Mac

Nutella

me

Kaz

yup

esoa/daisy/made and ig maybe guillo are all flying pretty under the radar too

doubt our poe is 100% correct is all i'm saying

there's probably a deep wolf, i doubt game is this ez

but when you're expecting a deep wolf you dont start blasting the towncore over the poe that likely still has a couple wolves left in it

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:04 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:01 pm Look guys Nutella is just town

why would they name a hazelnut spread after a wolf

i take it back this guys town

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:00 pm
LordQuas wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:58 pm is there any reason guillo has been called towny? i saw i think nutella say his role is town but can anyone else confirm that for me
Guillo’s push on Nutella looked super townie regardless of Nutella’s alignment.

agree, he's been bouncing between very towny and very wolfy posts

riding that fine line of ate to the performative level imo

psure its at least 2/3 seanzie/grogu/chardonnay

maybe jack as well but i've seen him be belligerent town when he subs in and flail at town leaders too many times to feel good about killing him

not exaggerating i think thats his standard town play tactic

is there any reason guillo has been called towny? i saw i think nutella say his role is town but can anyone else confirm that for me

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:31 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:13 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:04 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:03 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:16 pm Here’s my spicy take tho.

Nutella has made no attempt at all to read me or Epi all game, the two players she claims to suspect most.

Seriously. Look at her posts. Do you see someone trying to figure out someone else’s alignment? I don’t. What I do see is someone who wants Goru alive at the end of the day. That’s extra sus if Goru is a wolf.

I think Chard is town. He feels too comfortable to be a wolf unless the other wolves are some really weird couple like 112 and Quas and that’s just generally unlikely.

Mac’s “you got got, nerd” is fine. Wrongtown Mac would say something like that. Still a pretty solid townread.

Kza’s read on me is problematic but there’s enough reason to townread him besides that he’s probably just wrongtown.

I’m not sure on Radishes. Nothing he’s saying pings me as dishonest per se but Radishes is generally good at reading me and it’s concerning that he’s so wrong. New players incorrectly suspecting me? Normal. Nutella or Mac incorrectly suspecting me? Super normal. Radishes incorrectly suspecting me tends not to happen. Twice in recent history, he’s been arguably my strongest supporter while I was a consensus suspect and he was totally right to peg me as a townie. Heck, one of those games involved “weird interactions” between WMichelle and TJack D1 ending with a D1 WMichelle yeet. So why is town Radishes off? But I don’t see anything blatantly dishonest so idk. Conflicted. He can stay in the poe.
I agree with you on Nutella. Kinda meh on your townread on Mac just for that? KZA is tinfoiling but I townread him. Radishes has his moments of mud and clarity, there are some posts I've really liked from him. I don't know about Chard, but if Nutella is wolf then I think Chard is spewed town, I explained why in my nutella iso read.
I've also been getting some weird pings from Nutella. I don't really blame people for having me in the PoE since I'm probably null to most, but Nutella has kind of pushed on me in ways that feel less than genuine. Super heavy posting I think is a common thing good wolves do to get townread, and I worry that a lot of people have Nutella on their towny side because of this, not because Nutella is actually doing much that is towny.
Nah. I have Nutella in my towncore because of *how* they went about solving in D1/D2. They had that solving spark that felt like they were genuinely hunting. We mindmelded in real time at least once, and in general her view is my view of the game as a whole.

I agree she's lagged behind recently in the sense that she's rolling with the momentum of the game, but also the momentum has led to hits, so I'm doing the same and so is my strongest townread Kaz.

I can nitpick things, like her overall progression on Michelle. And if we inch towards end game and struggle to flip the final wolves, I'll definitely be re-evaluating her first before Kaz or Made (my other strong townreads).

But so far the Town, as a whole, has done a solid job finding the scum team, and I see no reason to start becoming paranoid about a key member of that successful Town at this moment in time.
I barely read any of D1, and only some of D2, so yeah if Nutella looked better then, than yeah, idk if I would have seen it, so sorry my read isn't taking that into account.

I don't understand your momentum thing? We had a vig kill, and then happened to have a weird claim, fake CC that happened to result in a wolf kill. Aside from that though, we have 9 dead townies, and only 2 dead wolves? How are you giving town a "solid job" here? We aren't doing all that great from my perspective, especially if people are thinking about lunching me today (I admit though, this is largely my fault for missing D1, then not being able to get caught up). I'm hoping some of the PoEs that people have are going to be hits, but there is no guarantee of that, and I recommend you don't count your chickens before they hatch.

Either way, yeah, I'm not going to pretend like I have a super strong case on Nutella. Just thought it was worth mention that they have pinged me a few times since some other people seem to also be having reservations about Nutella.

town is 50/50 on their kp is the point ppl are making

you should not be surprised that wolf kp is not killing wolves

LordQuas wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:53 pm oh i also wanted to blast guillo for that hammer yesterday

that was scummy as shit

that was guillo right

oh i also wanted to blast guillo for that hammer yesterday

that was scummy as shit

[VOTE: seanzie] aubergine

gonna go get a covid test bbl

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:13 pm
LordQuas wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:10 pm i forgot about game
I mean I don't blame you, considering your path to your wincon.

How's it going?

aight, mostly has to do with being just unable to play d3 b/c it was like 10 hours long and irl stuff so there was like 5 days of night for me lol

feel like sean is the most likely wolf here without reading much of whats been posted today

i forgot about game

why hammer so early sadge

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:51 pm i missed u quas

my flight literally touched down like 5 min after EoD lol

also if no deaths wolves might have tried to kill me last night lol

hey i pushed michelle earlier then others i'm very clearly at least somewhat townsiding

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:50 pm
LordQuas wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:49 pm good morning folks
Quas die

would if i could

good morning folks

i'm here for eod

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:47 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:19 am yo quick q, did anyone start the day w/ votes b/c theres a wolf roll that does that to ppl

anyone remember
what? we wouldnt know right?

didnt know how it worked

pay attention if someone ends the day with an extra vote then but that would prolly be one of the first roles to cut i wager

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:32 am I blame Quas

look man this is why i wanted to give her time to show up and post

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:21 am
Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:17 am CAN WE SCUM HUNT???
@DaisyCloud who do you wanna vote for???
my last 2 brain cells!!! jk obviously

honestly with this new set of claims I have to rethink. when does day end? I'm usa est. according to the poll day should be over, so pease if you know just answer my question. I don't need some flippant answer.

nutella said 6pm pst earlier i think so im sticking with that

@ ppl wondering why there isnt scum hunting

there has been, just phases are long so if ppl feel good about a target but want to wait for a response you get dead airike this

yo quick q, did anyone start the day w/ votes b/c theres a wolf roll that does that to ppl

anyone remember

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:14 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:13 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:12 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:11 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:10 am How do we establish consensus sire?
is this a real question? establishing a consensus poe is like, pretty standard town stuff
In my experience I tend to disagree with most of those consensus's. In my experience most of the time the actual mafia hijack those conversations and it ends up a consensus of scummy town.
in my experience ppl who say this stuff hero shoot and lose games
Well that doesn't explain why all I do is win win win no matter what.

got money on my mind i can never get enough

honestly whats more important though is comitting to one strategy

playing the weird inbetween ppl claim when they feel like it is real bad

you want to either not claim at all or organize claims so you have the poe ppl claiming and can solve from there

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:12 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:11 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:10 am How do we establish consensus sire?
is this a real question? establishing a consensus poe is like, pretty standard town stuff
In my experience I tend to disagree with most of those consensus's. In my experience most of the time the actual mafia hijack those conversations and it ends up a consensus of scummy town.

in my experience ppl who say this stuff hero shoot and lose games

hm i missed that reywas claim somehow

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:10 am How do we establish consensus sire?

is this a real question? establishing a consensus poe is like, pretty standard town stuff

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:09 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:08 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:04 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:03 am this is some real awaclus gaming being proposed

dont discuss solving b/c that gives wolves a chance to play around it with their more info 3head
I am mostly arguing with your idea of further mass claiming tbh. I can see the merit in sharing the existing claims.

Question though, would you have me out my role solves that haven't been outright claimed?
helllllll no

im talking abt making a list of claims. thats what a claimslist is. town outting roles by speculation is (actually not always but usually) bad

and regarding the mass claim im just talking abt forcing the 2 or 3 most sus ppl in the poe to claim. if ppl have more insight on how the mass claim prolly works thatd be cool tho
How do we define those 2 to 3 people?

consensus

if the anti claim is as made is suggesting its prolly not worth it tho

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:06 am I feel like this is one of the rare situation where a hammer might benefit town
(for the record there is no hammer this game)

they come up more often then you might think but

this isnt one of those times imo, we want to hear from the players in the poe if at all possible

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:04 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:03 am this is some real awaclus gaming being proposed

dont discuss solving b/c that gives wolves a chance to play around it with their more info 3head
I am mostly arguing with your idea of further mass claiming tbh. I can see the merit in sharing the existing claims.

Question though, would you have me out my role solves that haven't been outright claimed?

helllllll no

im talking abt making a list of claims. thats what a claimslist is. town outting roles by speculation is (actually not always but usually) bad

and regarding the mass claim im just talking abt forcing the 2 or 3 most sus ppl in the poe to claim. if ppl have more insight on how the mass claim prolly works thatd be cool tho

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:02 am LQ aren't you a 3p, why are you even involved in this conversation?

post game i am actually going to do the fucking math to see how good mass claim would have been at various stages jn the game

also theres 3 dead town and 1 dead wolf so im pretty sure town is exactly even or worse not ahead

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:02 am LQ aren't you a 3p, why are you even involved in this conversation?

town siding b/c im bored

this is some real awaclus gaming being proposed

dont discuss solving b/c that gives wolves a chance to play around it with their more info 3head

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:59 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:58 am gonna put this out there but

i think the poe at least should mass claim

if there is no limit on anticlaim kills then i think town has already lost regardless
If there's no limit to anti claim kills, then the game was broken from the start and who cares

tbh if there is a limit and its small enough the game is broken because mass claim breaks it

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:58 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:56 am
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:40 am
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:39 am please I need to know who all claimed what. like, a lot of the players claimed and so what did they claimed. my last 2 brain cells are shorting out and I feel so dumb right now. I'm looking at my notes and I didn't make an actual list myself. please help me.
i think the less we repeat things the more likely mafia might miss something so

sorry but no
mafia are going to go over things at night and they only need one person to pay attention

if you put something itt once there is no negative to repeating it
nah, there's been a lot of "I am, no i'm not wait, okay wait"
I don't think town benefits from knowing anything except for things they can use to decided who they're targeting tonight.

this is like just wrong

its been proven time and time again and the info we're talking abt is stuff that ppl claimed because they wanted ppl to know, we're not talking pr reads here good lord

gonna put this out there but

i think the poe at least should mass claim

if there is no limit on anticlaim kills then i think town has already lost regardless

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:40 am
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:39 am please I need to know who all claimed what. like, a lot of the players claimed and so what did they claimed. my last 2 brain cells are shorting out and I feel so dumb right now. I'm looking at my notes and I didn't make an actual list myself. please help me.
i think the less we repeat things the more likely mafia might miss something so

sorry but no

mafia are going to go over things at night and they only need one person to pay attention

if you put something itt once there is no negative to repeating it

i would like to blast

michelle (meta and general lackluster)
reywas (general lackluster and bad boknow interactions)
grogu (serious drop off and really weird michelle interactions where he commented on her being lackluster and hard defended her for no reason later. cinnamon roll tho)

and prolly reconsider after that

how do i keep accidentally posting emojis at the top of msgs i dont get it

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:20 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:18 am ok i have to leave in like 7 and a half hours i need sleep

is eod tmrw? gonna miss it almost certainly if so
yeah 6pm pst

actually i might just barely make it then, dunno. wont be around for the day regardless

eod1 and 2 are both during my two travel days lol

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:19 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:04 am Like from where I'm sitting i'm solving the game then next minute I get told to fuck off and called a shit. And now I am getting told I am making the game worse.

Forgive me if I am feeling a little bit tilted by this bs.

From my POV, you were not solving the game in that moment.

I asked DoO a question, and also pointed something out in chardonnay's post that was inaccurate. I received two gifs in response. They didn't answer the questions, they were flippant dismissals. Or maybe they weren't, correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what they felt like to me.

You weren't the only person, the general response to my posts was unappetizing to me, and I was upset. I regret saying I was surrounded by assholes. That was out of line, and far from the truth, for which I apologize.

Your comments about assholes were probably funny in some context, but I was already pretty tilted, so reading those just pushed me over an emotional threshold and I had to leave.

Do I think you were out of line? That's debatable. Maybe you could tell that I was already upset, maybe you couldn't. That's not really on you, I wasn't very transparent there. If you could tell, I would've expected you to back off yes.

Anyway, I'm fine leaving this convo until post game if you want.

ftr marmot i think everyone thought you knew the answer to those questions already because i think you were in the thread reacting to other posts live when the claims that you were asking about happened, or at least very close to it

so u might have just missed them or smthn

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:18 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:17 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:15 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:14 am yall are making me tempted to invoke the god read but i will stay strong

what do ppl w/ meta think about the ultra lowposters, any insight or are we just gonna need to take a crapshoot at some point
you tr michelle?
no

i was one of the earlier ppl to start calling her a wolf today i think
what god read do you mean

i am usually pretty good at reading michelle if i have a day or two

ok i have to leave in like 7 and a half hours i need sleep

is eod tmrw? gonna miss it almost certainly if so

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:15 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:14 am yall are making me tempted to invoke the god read but i will stay strong

what do ppl w/ meta think about the ultra lowposters, any insight or are we just gonna need to take a crapshoot at some point
you tr michelle?

no

i was one of the earlier ppl to start calling her a wolf today i think

sheep dooms reads ppl i think they are good this game

yall are making me tempted to invoke the god read but i will stay strong

what do ppl w/ meta think about the ultra lowposters, any insight or are we just gonna need to take a crapshoot at some point

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:05 am
LordQuas wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:04 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:14 am
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:11 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:10 am Take me out of the bottom and you'll do better.
Give me stuff to work with!
Can't do it. I can't read thirty posts a day. I don't have the time.

If your plan is to lynch me because of that, fine.
aight i get activity being busy for ppl and shit

but thirty posts a day in what you signed up for is literally 1 post per player

ppl, have a little bit of accountability and think for even one second sometimes
PAGES

I meant PAGES

I said as much later.

Why are you being this moralizing over something that doesn't drive your opinion of me?

What is your opinion of me?

[VOTE: LordQuas] aubergine

yes i am big dumb i didnt read next post

i think someone complaining about 30 posts a day would deserve to get ridiculed tho

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