The Syndicate

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

intent to thunderdome today

i don't think creature was the zealot, but i do think he is mafia

Depression.

that is not a real post on like 10 different complex levels

TUTUU IS MAFIA

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:57 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:55 pm Mac, I know you’re excited to get to the “guess the zealot” portion of the game but come on.

lol so is mac the zealot? w/w with seanzie?

and like u all decided to collectively openwolf coz u have a lock win? how do u have a lock win lmao

wait is sig town....

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we should sleep we need more information

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:51 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:51 pm What are wolves doinv

Popping up bottles most likely

not a post town creature makes 7 minutes before the day ends when he is life is actively at stake

i no longer townread dennis

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:51 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:50 pm mafia winning sounds good to me

Then vote with me, the wolf.

no im mafia and im throwing against my own alignment by voting creature

mafia winning sounds good to me

if creature flips mafia then my legacy is to never let tutuu live to LYLO in any world

i dont feel like creature is posting like a villager that is about to die.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:31 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:30 pm [VOTE: dennis] aubergine

let's see what happens tbh

Pretty sure the only thing that happens is I get an aneurism.

yeah probably

[VOTE: dennis] aubergine

let's see what happens tbh

im going grocery shopping but ill be back before the eod

above all else, these are the only things i care about rn:

1. what are the best reasons to vote creature today?

2. what are the best reasons to vote sig today?

right now, the reasons for 1 outweigh the reasons for 2 in my mind. i would like hear people answer both of these questions for me please

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:30 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:28 pm im about to enter my dark spf era

i want u to beg me like this furry and maybe ill spare u. beg for it.

pewish

im about to enter my dark spf era

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:26 pm since when did SPF ONCE, EVEN ONCE tshi game consider "im wolfsiding, tutuu town". DID SHE CONSIDER THIS ONCE? after roxy flipped? NO SHE DID NOT

i made a post that said "hmmm maybe im wolfsiding" less than 30 minutes ago

and dont flatter urself, i called you out for making a bad read and because ifu r town then i both expect you to and know that you can do better

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:25 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:23 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:22 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:16 pm We've had town tying themselves in knots trying to solve this game and sig is just like sitting there absolutely giving no ounce of fuck about finding the mafia.

Okay imma push back here not since town isn’t doing that, buuut almost every post I’ve made has been directed at town not being dumb and I get ignored on them.

You have a handful or players sucking up the oxygen in the game and basically leading town (and maybe mafia around)

Or wait for it follow what a few people have been saying and realize town is being tied up by mafia who are leading them on bad wagon after bad wagon

but I'm not mafia I'm just playing bad lol

Just vote Tuutuue she’s like 30% mafia at least

I was thinking more along the line of SPF or Bef though maybe not. I just don’t think town is being genuinely this self destructive on their own

i swear to god

oh dont get me wrong i still think there's like a 65% chance that youre mafia, im just trying to save u from solving with such a flawed pov in an upside down world where ur town

sig who is the mafia and why

thank u for coming to my ted talk

tutuu if ur town then reading ppl based on how hard thyere townsiding is a horrible metric and u should know better. i have posted my thoughts over and over for why i think creature might be mafia and barely anyone has engaged with them. even in a world where im WRONG and creature is town then u should be able to figure out that i am genuinely invested in figuring out his alignment. making gamestate reads or "X person is townsiding reads" in a game with ZERO FLIPPED MAFIA is an extremely bad strategy

man this game is frustrating lol

i still dont really think seanzie is mafia and the only world where it makes sense for him to be mafia is with sig, but even then im not sure

Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:14 pm I'm currently in favor of worlds where Falcon is a wolf and namely this means Wilgy probably is just not one.

i agree tha i perceive falcon as being significantly more likely to be mafia than wilgy atm

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:12 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:12 pm why is sabi locktown

just gets mad at people for no reason

sabi ATE'd harder than almost any player i have ever seen in the only wolfgame i've seen from them, i'm not sure that ATE or getting mad is a good indicator of their alignment. if you have reasons for them being town unrelated to emotion then im willing to listen to it

the reason why i dont townread sabi is because their content and their solving has not felt like town!sabi to me. to be blunt i dont really give a fuck about emotion right now

why is sabi locktown

so let's say that i live in the world where creature is town and sig is mafia and i'm just wolfsiding. what does that world look like? it's probably a world where:

A. tutuu is town

B. jack is mafia

in that world the team would also probably be something like:

sig/jack/dennis/sabi/falcon(?)

i dunno

i don't see any real reason why creature/sig can't be W/W based off of their interactions but the way that multiple players have extremely urgent stakes in which one dies first indicates to me that one of them might actually be town after all

i have less faith in my reads than i am currently projecting if we're being honest

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:40 pm Falcon
Dennis
Porscha
SPF
Seanzie

Final guess lol.

ouch

it's true that me and jack are playing with a similar agenda today tbh so ill grant u that

would i prefer to kill the person that i have scumread for the entirety of this game and who i am having trouble moving past being mafia and who i have trouble conceiving of a world where he is NOT mafia, or would i rather kill this other kind of scummy person that i think is making bad posts? it's a tough one tbh

i think that if ppl want me to vote sig over creature then i need someone to tell me why creature is town

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:37 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:36 pm i cant really defend sig, i just find creature wolfier rn

this is because i am mafia with sig and trying to save him

THAT IS LITERALLY THE TRUTH

i'm just poking fun at the theory that me having a slight preference for killing my gamelong scumread over someone that i kind of scumread is indicative of me trying very hard to protect sig from dying

admittedly i did townread sig coming into today but i took it back relatively quickly

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:37 pm mac/seanzie probably town hmm

yeah

i cant really defend sig, i just find creature wolfier rn

this is because i am mafia with sig and trying to save him

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:29 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:20 pm mac can u read through creature's posts today and give me ur thoughts? i'll do the same for sig

I've read all of his posts. They aren't great but they are better than sigs, and that Jack post pleading with us to vote out creature and tutuu over sig made my fucking skin crawl. Jack suddenly caring again and trying to be pushy is just making me think he's flipped back to hard wolfsiding probably to end the game.

do you think a world where creature/jack are W/W is possible? because i actually have been treating them as a mild difference check based on the way that jack has been treating creature today, and the fact that i think creature is being wolfy makes me worry less about jack by default,, but it's possible i'm outruling a W/W world too easily ig

i do think there exists an exact world where jack/sig are mafia and jack is trying to distract from the sig wagon by getting creature eliminated today, but that requires a world where creature is town, which is a world that im having trouble getting to for various reasons

we are in agreement that sig's posts today are bad though. my townread on sig coming into today was partially predicated on the idea that he would continue to scumhunt and continue to gamesolve after having his view of the game ~vindicated~ yesterday, but he ..hasn't

not clear to me why me self-voting for fun is something that u need to figure out/analyze

mac can u read through creature's posts today and give me ur thoughts? i'll do the same for sig

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:16 pm We've had town tying themselves in knots trying to solve this game and sig is just like sitting there absolutely giving no ounce of fuck about finding the mafia.

yeah i agree that his posts suck today

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:06 pm SPF may be bussing Creature under that assumption and it makes for an argument against Jack's point. It also makes me more confident in a Sig vote than an Creature vote. Jack and SPF saying the similar things and suspicion does not apply to that argument.

you can hard clear me in a world where creature is mafia because i was the first person to push on creature on d1 and the first to pressure him/bring attention to him, and i have pushed on him throughout the entire game. i do like to bus at points, but i would not treat my partner in that way

the idea that i'm bussing creature to toy with jack's reasoning doesn't make sense in the context of me having pushed on creature far before jack did

i have a lot going on today so wont be able to post much. @ me if you want anything specific

if it's coming down between sig and creature then i would prefer creature, partially because i have been slightly confirmation biased into a world where creature is mafia from d1 and being able to resolve that would be extremely helpful for my view of the game right now, and also because i find creature wolfier than sig on a holistic level. in particular, i think the way that creature is approaching his solving today is all wrong - it reads to me like he is focused on picking on an easy target above all else, whereas i think creature as town would be throwing a fit right now about how the game is doomed and about how me/mac need to be deepwolves because of a lack of pelts and etc etc. i think that his lack of general concern about the gamestate might be indicative of TMI

i dont really townread sig either in spite of me opening today by feeling slightly better about him, but i just feel more conviction about creature being wolfy

if creature Is maf like I think he is then I agree that Jack is more than likely town

Mac are u confident about jack being town?