The Syndicate

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:22 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:09 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:05 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:03 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:55 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:54 pm lime coke is posting well. his posts come off as thoughtful and carefully considered regardless of his alignment, but i think that his posting just being outright good is probably a towntell for him (and i do largely agree with jagged's assessment of him earlier on this page even if im not 100% in alignment)

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:54 pm SPF taking stances to player's alignments might make her town this game.

Nice timing, lmao.

do you mind expanding on the read you just made on me a littttle bit more? i dont know why you would townread me for taking a stance on alignments specifically, but there's probably nuance to your read that im missing

I looked at the end of 16/8 10er and saw you talk about that regarding your read list you made during that game.

Here you've stated reasonings to townread/scumread players and kept your stances pretty clear to others.

i dont fully know what post youre referring to but im tempted to find it towny that youre comparing me to 16/8 10er at all lol

I think your description of it was:

"I have a harsh volume tell, if I post at all I'm town."

When you post reads or give analysis of players in the game as mafia, you give generic commentary on what they've done during the game and don't say anything regarding how you read them. As town you're giving the alignment on the player based on their actions in the game.

hmm okay thanks, i think i get you and if i questioned you on it any further it would be more for the sake of ego than for actually figuring out your alignment :P

the fact that illario was not immediately suspicious of the fact that he is one of my strongest townreads is probably the scummiest thing about him so far, but i refuse to expect our meta dynamic to play out in the exact same way every game. i'm going to #BreakTheCycle

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:17 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:15 am

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:53 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:37 pm

cassandra wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:35 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:33 pm

cassandra wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:30 pm i townread Nook now kinda, townread dyslexicon for doing nothing, i think they'd post more as scum, leetic i TR (so if he's mason w/illario then illario's prob town too, he's just annoying me)

iaafr and LC are lightly towny

if you tr'd leetic already why push illario so hard? did it not give you any pause on that

i'm not even pushing illario hard, nor am i pushing anne hard TBH her last post makes me think she may actually be town.

ok

just felt weird to me but i may be more affected by the claim bias than you are, i know i shouldnt weigh it too much but it inherently primed me to see illario from a townlean pov idk

this is a decent post

to the people who say nutella is super blatant as scum, is this a kinda post she can easily fake?

yes but it is definitely one of the towniest posts she's made so far

My jab at LimeCoke is the towniest post in the game, so far

i don't think that either of us believe this is true

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:53 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:37 pm

cassandra wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:35 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:33 pm

cassandra wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:30 pm i townread Nook now kinda, townread dyslexicon for doing nothing, i think they'd post more as scum, leetic i TR (so if he's mason w/illario then illario's prob town too, he's just annoying me)

iaafr and LC are lightly towny

if you tr'd leetic already why push illario so hard? did it not give you any pause on that

i'm not even pushing illario hard, nor am i pushing anne hard TBH her last post makes me think she may actually be town.

ok

just felt weird to me but i may be more affected by the claim bias than you are, i know i shouldnt weigh it too much but it inherently primed me to see illario from a townlean pov idk

this is a decent post

to the people who say nutella is super blatant as scum, is this a kinda post she can easily fake?

yes but it is definitely one of the towniest posts she's made so far

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:05 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:03 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:55 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:54 pm lime coke is posting well. his posts come off as thoughtful and carefully considered regardless of his alignment, but i think that his posting just being outright good is probably a towntell for him (and i do largely agree with jagged's assessment of him earlier on this page even if im not 100% in alignment)

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:54 pm SPF taking stances to player's alignments might make her town this game.

Nice timing, lmao.

do you mind expanding on the read you just made on me a littttle bit more? i dont know why you would townread me for taking a stance on alignments specifically, but there's probably nuance to your read that im missing

I looked at the end of 16/8 10er and saw you talk about that regarding your read list you made during that game.

Here you've stated reasonings to townread/scumread players and kept your stances pretty clear to others.

i dont fully know what post youre referring to but im tempted to find it towny that youre comparing me to 16/8 10er at all lol

fwiw iaafr and anne's votes on me were both memes, im p sure

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:55 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:54 pm lime coke is posting well. his posts come off as thoughtful and carefully considered regardless of his alignment, but i think that his posting just being outright good is probably a towntell for him (and i do largely agree with jagged's assessment of him earlier on this page even if im not 100% in alignment)

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:54 pm SPF taking stances to player's alignments might make her town this game.

Nice timing, lmao.

do you mind expanding on the read you just made on me a littttle bit more? i dont know why you would townread me for taking a stance on alignments specifically, but there's probably nuance to your read that im missing

ok i think ive given a preliminary opinion on everyone thats posted on d1

AMA

also, i dont really have anything to say about anne right now that doesn't revolve specifically around meta/tone, so i'm holding back for a little bit until i decide what my read on her is. same with iaafr, somewhat

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:54 pm lime coke is posting well. his posts come off as thoughtful and carefully considered regardless of his alignment, but i think that his posting just being outright good is probably a towntell for him (and i do largely agree with jagged's assessment of him earlier on this page even if im not 100% in alignment)

oh i forgot to mention that i think the specific way lime coke approached townreading anne in the early-game is town indicative for him as well (because lime coke was reading anne through the lens of how much she was enjoying the game, which is something i would expect lime coke to be paying extra attention to because anne specifically mentioned that she was playing the game because of him), but it's one of those micro hyperspecific reads that i dont expect anyone else to vibe with lol

jagged's posts (particularly in the early game) did feel a bit "off" to me as well, but in a way that i find difficult to describe. if i had to put it into words, it would sound something like: "i feel like jagged is forcing himself to be curious about other peoples posts instead of letting the curiosity naturally come to him"

that said, i like the fact that my reads are largely in alignment with jagged's, and i think that some of the stuff that im picking up on is just a result of him playing a more low-key/less "leadership"-focused game, and that would probably make his posts feel different to me regardless of his alignment

this is a long way of saying that i dont really know jagged's alignment but that i'll figure it out

lime coke is posting well. his posts come off as thoughtful and carefully considered regardless of his alignment, but i think that his posting just being outright good is probably a towntell for him (and i do largely agree with jagged's assessment of him earlier on this page even if im not 100% in alignment)

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:40 pm i will probably scumread jay on d1 and then decide he's in town meta on d2

the inverse of silverkeith

this post pinged me because it's the type of post that i would make as a wolf that wants to contribute to the ongoing conversation about jagged's alignment without having any specific observations to make - it's a very filler post, which is totally fine, but it just felt a little awkward for nutella to sit out of the conversation about jay's alignment while still somewhat involving herself in it

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:03 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:50 pm Just so we're clear what's happening here i already gave my three and a half reads and now I'm going to shit post until I cap myself and come back 10-15 minutes before eod to naked vote and be sheeped and we may or may not hit mafia but it'll be worth it for the experience and the memories

this is performative

might loop back to being towny but im not sure

im also a little concerned on how nutella went from: "this post from nanook is performative but maybe in a towny way" to putting nanook in her "Bad Vibes" tier on #266, and her push on cassandra on #316 pinged me when i was catching up as well. i do think that nutella is playing closer to her scum game than her town game so far and i guess i want to make that known, but if she is town then im pretty confident ill find her

i also think that nanook is playing closer to his ~town energy than his ~wolf energy and im usually pretty good at reading him, but id take that read w/a grain of salt

some notes while reading through the thread:

-i think that illario and leetic are both towny individually of their claims (but i townread illario more i think?). i townread illario mostly because his thought process and solving has been in lockstep with mine (ie: he townread cassandra at a similar time that i did, he townread nanook at a similar time that i did and voiced accurate meta on him, he voiced suspicions toward nutella at a similar time when i was getting pinged by her, and i had the exact same thought process about alexa potentially faking her progression on him on #323). i dont think illario has posted anything unfakeable but i think his posts so far reflect a depth of thought and a lack of opportunism that's a bit more subdued when he's playing as a wolf

i got pinged by #367 from leetic because the language felt a little stiff to me, i didnt like his reasoning for townreading cassandra (at least not without more explanation), and because he came after nanook in a way that i would possibly expect an opportunistic wolf to. that said, i think there's a sense of consistency in the way that he's come after different players and tried to drag them into the game (ie: the way he prodded dizzy on #119, the way he prodded jagged on #121, the way he prodded me on #371) that might be indicative of him having a genuine investment in solving the game and getting other people to participate

-got pinged by #134 from cassandra but it's probably nothing. i like that cassandra was the first player to voice the feeling of: "jagged is Off", because there were like 3-4 different players that all chimed in with agreement toward the sentiment of: "Jagged Is Off", and i think that people who express unspoken sentiments that the rest of the thread is perceiving are >rand town. i also think that cassandra having the progression of: "illario is a wolf > illario is town, actually > but wait, maybe illario IS a wolf" over the last few pages was towny for her, and she showed conviction in the way she pushed on both anne and illario that is usually missing from her pushes as a wolf. i guess i would call her a soft townlean even though i dont think she's done anything unfakeable

on a similar note, i like that nanook was the first player in the game to really try to concentrate suspicion/momentum against jagged. if jagged is a villager and he was getting widely misread in the early game, i think the wolves would be more likely to hang back and let the rest of the town get their hands dirty instead of directly engaging in suspecting him/pushing him

uwu

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:50 pmuwu

requoting for emphasis

uwu

not to get philosophical, but im gay