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by staypositivefriend
Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:14 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:13 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:11 pm
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:10 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:09 pm
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:08 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:06 pm
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:06 pm

can you talk about the first part more

if you're historically bad at it, why are you still confident?
did i say that im confident?
you said he's >rand W
why do you still think he's >rand W when you're aware you're bad at it?
because i think his posts are wolfy? i'm not going to refrain from outing reads on people in games just because im bad at reading them - that's a surefire way to never improve
ok fine it's more the like
statement you made out of it
like "i've been bad at reading him but LETS GET HIM GUYS" (as an eod thing), like you wolfreading him in itself is nothing
but that's not really what i said - i actually think the dolby is the more optimal chop today. i just thought mac's reasoning to townread him was bad
where did you say this (re: dolby over falcon)?
i haven't, but i've been scumreading dolby since early into d2 and i think that he's most likely a frozen wolf. i unironically think that the solve might be as easy as dolby/falcon
by staypositivefriend
Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:12 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

if i was the sole determiner of the chop right now, i probably would kill falcon, but im not at a level of confidence where i feel comfortable strongarming the rest of the thread into chopping him. that's why im engaging w/the people who are townreading him to try to get more clarity on his alignment/figure him out
by staypositivefriend
Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:11 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:10 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:09 pm
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:08 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:06 pm
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:06 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:04 pm it's not like im GOOD at reading falcon, im historically really bad at it, i just think his scumhunting in this game comes off as being on auto-pilot regardless of his alignment (and i think him being on auto pilot is >rand W)
can you talk about the first part more

if you're historically bad at it, why are you still confident?
did i say that im confident?
you said he's >rand W
why do you still think he's >rand W when you're aware you're bad at it?
because i think his posts are wolfy? i'm not going to refrain from outing reads on people in games just because im bad at reading them - that's a surefire way to never improve
ok fine it's more the like
statement you made out of it
like "i've been bad at reading him but LETS GET HIM GUYS" (as an eod thing), like you wolfreading him in itself is nothing
but that's not really what i said - i actually think the dolby is the more optimal chop today. i just thought mac's reasoning to townread him was bad
by staypositivefriend
Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:09 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:08 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:06 pm
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:06 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:04 pm it's not like im GOOD at reading falcon, im historically really bad at it, i just think his scumhunting in this game comes off as being on auto-pilot regardless of his alignment (and i think him being on auto pilot is >rand W)
can you talk about the first part more

if you're historically bad at it, why are you still confident?
did i say that im confident?
you said he's >rand W
why do you still think he's >rand W when you're aware you're bad at it?
because i think his posts are wolfy? i'm not going to refrain from outing reads on people in games just because im bad at reading them - that's a surefire way to never improve
by staypositivefriend
Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:07 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

sorry that was sassy lol, i'm not confident about falcon's alignment and it is precisely because i tend to find his playstyle wolfy regardless of his alignment and have incorrectly pushed on him multiple times. i just think his play in this game, in a vacuum, is wolfy, which is why ive been confused that people are townreading him for super questionable/vague reasons
by staypositivefriend
Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:06 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:06 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:04 pm it's not like im GOOD at reading falcon, im historically really bad at it, i just think his scumhunting in this game comes off as being on auto-pilot regardless of his alignment (and i think him being on auto pilot is >rand W)
can you talk about the first part more

if you're historically bad at it, why are you still confident?
did i say that im confident?
by staypositivefriend
Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:06 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:41 pm probably like spf and one of dolby/gira

leaning dolby
Lime Coke wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:42 pm Honestly....

I gotta re-look at SPF.
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:43 pm yeah if LC was right on her right away that's pretty based
Gira wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:50 pm still thought her posting earlier today was towny but would revisit given lack of ideas elsewhere
i dont understand why y'all are paranoid about me in the first place but i think this game probably feels so stagnant and boring because the wolves are AWOL and this is an easy solve, so it's probably not worth getting worked up over
by staypositivefriend
Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:04 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

it's not like im GOOD at reading falcon, im historically really bad at it, i just think his scumhunting in this game comes off as being on auto-pilot regardless of his alignment (and i think him being on auto pilot is >rand W)
by staypositivefriend
Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:03 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:39 pm call it "absence of wolf or self pres agenda"
pushing on two villagers in the most stagnant way possible is an absence of wolf agenda? im not even saying that he needs to be a wolf but all of the reasons ive seen to townread him are honestly bad and give me the impression that people arent closely reading his posts
by staypositivefriend
Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:01 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

is the deadline actually tonight? how is that even possible? i was playing with the assumption that we had another 24 hours honestly
by staypositivefriend
Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:32 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

falcon45ca wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:29 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:52 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:44 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:25 pm
Gira wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 6:24 pm i hate that i townread that post
why do you townread that post? i actually think that it's wolfy in conjunction with this:
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:21 pm
CRichard wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:10 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:09 pm

Valid
Merry Christmas!
On a more serious note, I haven't seen you much while I was backreading the thread.
Who do you think isn't paired with Wilgy fypov? Remember Akemi Homura?
I do remember.


Nook, Mac, Alexa right off the top of my head have poor partner equity w/ Wilgy.


I have postulated that Wilgy, rather than scum push his partner like he did w/ Gav, might be more inclined to TR his partner.



I'm interested in SPF/fingersplints wagons ATM
falcon posting some vague and uncontroversial nonassociatives with wilgy and then saying "i'm interested in SPF/fingersplints" wagons feel like a pretty transparent attempt to powerwolf and push the game into the wrong direction, especially from the POV of knowing that im town. falcon hasnt interacted with any of my posts in this game and i dont believe that he actually scumreads me, and i think he might just be a wolf trying to keep a low presence and coast through as long as possible
Yeah, but I don't know you're Town & I think you could be Maf.


Howbowdat?
but i dont get the impression that youre genuinely trying to figure out my alignment, feels like you picked a name out of a hat to lazily coast on
That kinda sounds like a you problem?


I don't know what to tell ya. My read is real
is your read based on anything other than "gut"?

if the answer is no, then how am i supposed to know that your read is real?

and if the answer is yes, what else is your read based on?
by staypositivefriend
Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:10 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:02 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:35 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:32 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:14 pm
CRichard wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:52 am The fact that Dizzy didn't flip VT perhaps might indicate as I said before that it was a PR kill. That would explain a world where Alexa, Mac and Nook are all town and they survive 2 night kills in a row.
fwiw i think this thought from CRrichard is kind of towny, regardless of whether or not its correct. i imagine that the wolves would probably want to be injecting as much paranoia in the thread as possible at this stage in the game (particularly if the "consensus" POE is headed in the right direction), and this post effectively accomplishes the opposite of that. it might benefit CR to say this if their teammates were buried super deep but i still think it's kind of a towny observation to make in the first place

i also think that CR is town for emotional reasons that should be self-evident, but i feel dirty townreading him for that so im trying to substantiate my read with logic lol
If he's partnered with Gira or alexa it makes sense for him to push this, yeah?
with alexa maybe, but definitely not gira. gira is "consensus" POE at this point, so i don't think CR would be incentivized to push that angle if he was partnered with him
Why would he not be incentived to push that the nk of a person scumreading Gira was for reasons besides their reads?
the point is that CR was pushing the narrative that alexa/mac/you are all town and that the consensus POE is largely correct - gira is part of that consensus POE

if his plan was to subtly protect gira by downplaying the reads of the person who got nightkilled, it isn't reflected in the rest of his posts today
by staypositivefriend
Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:52 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

falcon45ca wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:44 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:25 pm
Gira wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 6:24 pm i hate that i townread that post
why do you townread that post? i actually think that it's wolfy in conjunction with this:
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:21 pm
CRichard wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:10 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:09 pm
CRichard wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:05 pm Falcon can also go into the PoE as they give off UTR vibes, which isn't how I remember playing with them in Akemi Homura.
Can it be real life? Sure, though I'll add that I haven't found anything that makes me thing Falcon/Wilgy can't be team mates either.
Valid
Merry Christmas!
On a more serious note, I haven't seen you much while I was backreading the thread.
Who do you think isn't paired with Wilgy fypov? Remember Akemi Homura?
I do remember.


Nook, Mac, Alexa right off the top of my head have poor partner equity w/ Wilgy.


I have postulated that Wilgy, rather than scum push his partner like he did w/ Gav, might be more inclined to TR his partner.



I'm interested in SPF/fingersplints wagons ATM
falcon posting some vague and uncontroversial nonassociatives with wilgy and then saying "i'm interested in SPF/fingersplints" wagons feel like a pretty transparent attempt to powerwolf and push the game into the wrong direction, especially from the POV of knowing that im town. falcon hasnt interacted with any of my posts in this game and i dont believe that he actually scumreads me, and i think he might just be a wolf trying to keep a low presence and coast through as long as possible
Yeah, but I don't know you're Town & I think you could be Maf.


Howbowdat?
but i dont get the impression that youre genuinely trying to figure out my alignment, feels like you picked a name out of a hat to lazily coast on
by staypositivefriend
Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:51 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Lime Coke wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:40 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:37 pm i was going to spend a few hours re-reading this game and analyzing the interactions everyone had with drwilgy but instead i think im just going to post in real-time as much as possible and develop my reads from there. it's more fun and less mentally draining that way, and it requires less WIM on my part

ill be around for a while tonight, so lmk if anyone wants to bounce thoughts off of each other
Unfortunately not many are here.

Do you want to ask me about anything? I have a slight bit of energy from a nap so I can do a bit of something.
what does your immediate POE look like?
by staypositivefriend
Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:37 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

i was going to spend a few hours re-reading this game and analyzing the interactions everyone had with drwilgy but instead i think im just going to post in real-time as much as possible and develop my reads from there. it's more fun and less mentally draining that way, and it requires less WIM on my part

ill be around for a while tonight, so lmk if anyone wants to bounce thoughts off of each other
by staypositivefriend
Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:35 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:32 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:14 pm
CRichard wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:52 am The fact that Dizzy didn't flip VT perhaps might indicate as I said before that it was a PR kill. That would explain a world where Alexa, Mac and Nook are all town and they survive 2 night kills in a row.
fwiw i think this thought from CRrichard is kind of towny, regardless of whether or not its correct. i imagine that the wolves would probably want to be injecting as much paranoia in the thread as possible at this stage in the game (particularly if the "consensus" POE is headed in the right direction), and this post effectively accomplishes the opposite of that. it might benefit CR to say this if their teammates were buried super deep but i still think it's kind of a towny observation to make in the first place

i also think that CR is town for emotional reasons that should be self-evident, but i feel dirty townreading him for that so im trying to substantiate my read with logic lol
If he's partnered with Gira or alexa it makes sense for him to push this, yeah?
with alexa maybe, but definitely not gira. gira is "consensus" POE at this point, so i don't think CR would be incentivized to push that angle if he was partnered with him
by staypositivefriend
Tue Dec 28, 2021 9:04 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

MacDougall wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 9:00 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:56 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:35 pm @staypositivefriend

Serious question, what is your read on Alison/Dolby slot and Nanook currently?
my GTH answer is that the dolby slot is a wolf and that nanook is town
y
because nanook pushed on wilgy on d1 in a way that looked explicitly non-aligned, and because he's been towny outside of that (minus his push on CRrichard, but whatever)

and because dolby made a couple of wallposts yesterday where their reads didnt feel proportional to their observations and then proceeded to enter today with an empty and vague townread on CRrichard before dipping from the thread again. i think that he's struggling to replicate reads in a believable way which makes me think he might just be a wolf
by staypositivefriend
Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:56 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Gira wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:48 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:18 pm also, if there's a bus, who do you think bussed him? it seems unlikely to me that his wagon was entirely pure (particularly because, to my memory, the thread was super stagnant during the last hours of the EOD1 and wilgy getting killed was pretty much inevitable, so it would be weird if at least one wolf didn't jump on in an attempt to get townread) but i think: "there was a bus" is the type of read that's kind of empty if it isnt backed up with specific names
i don't know

i'm bad at this
mind talking about your townread on falcon more? i think that's the thing that made me the most concerned about you while catching up tbh
by staypositivefriend
Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:56 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Lime Coke wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:35 pm @staypositivefriend

Serious question, what is your read on Alison/Dolby slot and Nanook currently?
my GTH answer is that the dolby slot is a wolf and that nanook is town
by staypositivefriend
Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:27 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Lime Coke wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:58 pm By the way Wilgy spewed SPF town by the fact that he literally had SPF as a scumread when I was pushing her, and then flipped her to a townread immediately when I flipped my townread.
tbh i think the stronger argument for why im town is how i treated wilgy as opposed to how wilgy treated me, but whatever gets you there ig
by staypositivefriend
Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:26 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Lime Coke wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:56 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:20 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:13 pm God it's rough as fuck for me to look at the game and post currently so I can't do anything. Still have another RL day so hopefully I can do more/be better for this day phase.
....this pings me a bit.



It's got a 'Josh, Gee Willikers' vibe if ya know what I mean
I have COVID and the allergy portion is making my eyes water so I can't look at the thread too well.
hope you feel better soon
by staypositivefriend
Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:26 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

falcon45ca wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:20 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:13 pm God it's rough as fuck for me to look at the game and post currently so I can't do anything. Still have another RL day so hopefully I can do more/be better for this day phase.
....this pings me a bit.



It's got a 'Josh, Gee Willikers' vibe if ya know what I mean
i also dont really like this lol
by staypositivefriend
Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:25 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Gira wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 6:24 pm i hate that i townread that post
why do you townread that post? i actually think that it's wolfy in conjunction with this:
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:21 pm
CRichard wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:10 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:09 pm
CRichard wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:05 pm Falcon can also go into the PoE as they give off UTR vibes, which isn't how I remember playing with them in Akemi Homura.
Can it be real life? Sure, though I'll add that I haven't found anything that makes me thing Falcon/Wilgy can't be team mates either.
Valid
Merry Christmas!
On a more serious note, I haven't seen you much while I was backreading the thread.
Who do you think isn't paired with Wilgy fypov? Remember Akemi Homura?
I do remember.


Nook, Mac, Alexa right off the top of my head have poor partner equity w/ Wilgy.


I have postulated that Wilgy, rather than scum push his partner like he did w/ Gav, might be more inclined to TR his partner.



I'm interested in SPF/fingersplints wagons ATM
falcon posting some vague and uncontroversial nonassociatives with wilgy and then saying "i'm interested in SPF/fingersplints" wagons feel like a pretty transparent attempt to powerwolf and push the game into the wrong direction, especially from the POV of knowing that im town. falcon hasnt interacted with any of my posts in this game and i dont believe that he actually scumreads me, and i think he might just be a wolf trying to keep a low presence and coast through as long as possible
by staypositivefriend
Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:20 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Dolby wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 3:06 pm I still haven't caught up tbh

The only new thought I have is Crich is fairly town and coming to the same conclsuions I did on his catchup is a pretty good look
this might be hypocritical for me to say considering that i just posted a townread on crich myself, but i think it's kind of wolfy that this is dolby's only new thought coming into the day. a townread on CRrich is boring and uncontroversial at this point and: "his catchup is a pretty good look" is one of those things that wolves say when they want to make it look like theyre putting more thought into their reads than they actually are
by staypositivefriend
Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:18 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

also, if there's a bus, who do you think bussed him? it seems unlikely to me that his wagon was entirely pure (particularly because, to my memory, the thread was super stagnant during the last hours of the EOD1 and wilgy getting killed was pretty much inevitable, so it would be weird if at least one wolf didn't jump on in an attempt to get townread) but i think: "there was a bus" is the type of read that's kind of empty if it isnt backed up with specific names
by staypositivefriend
Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:17 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

Gira wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 1:25 pm the idea that i kill dizzy over someone who was pushing the wagon day 1 is fairly ???

atp seems fairly straightforward there was in fact a bus but eh

back later
this is a bad argument IMO because it assumes that we know why the wolves killed dizzy (when it easily could have been an attempt to hunt for PRs) but i dont really think it makes you wolfy
by staypositivefriend
Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:15 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

alexa wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 9:11 am I thought Dizzy was clearly softing PR so I'm not surprised by that kill really, also I don't think he really fosed me he just had it as tinfoil

Why did ya'll early hammer I didn't get to read at all it was literally Christmas .-.
@alexa - where did dizzy soft PR??? i didnt see anything like that at all
by staypositivefriend
Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:14 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 3]

CRichard wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:52 am The fact that Dizzy didn't flip VT perhaps might indicate as I said before that it was a PR kill. That would explain a world where Alexa, Mac and Nook are all town and they survive 2 night kills in a row.
fwiw i think this thought from CRrichard is kind of towny, regardless of whether or not its correct. i imagine that the wolves would probably want to be injecting as much paranoia in the thread as possible at this stage in the game (particularly if the "consensus" POE is headed in the right direction), and this post effectively accomplishes the opposite of that. it might benefit CR to say this if their teammates were buried super deep but i still think it's kind of a towny observation to make in the first place

i also think that CR is town for emotional reasons that should be self-evident, but i feel dirty townreading him for that so im trying to substantiate my read with logic lol
by staypositivefriend
Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:43 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 2]

i think we should probably stop posting until we hear from marmot but someone can correct me if im wrong
by staypositivefriend
Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:25 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 2]

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine
by staypositivefriend
Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:20 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 2]

Lime Coke wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 6:48 pm @staypositivefriend

How much time do you have on here currently?
i'm around right now but i'm not feeling super up to solving/analyzing the game atm - i wanted to tryhard today but im not feeling it so im probably just gonna vibe until tomorrow
by staypositivefriend
Sat Dec 25, 2021 6:45 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [END]
Replies: 2566
Views: 54918

Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 2]

Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 6:44 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 6:38 pm personally i think crich's anger is kind of towny but i dont feel like rewarding that type of posting with a townread
Yeah, it makes me want to vote them as well, but I’ve seen the exact same thing as town. Unfortunately.

Didn’t think Esooa’s attitude was towny tbh, actually just looked like open wolfing. But slot is probably town.
what other reads do you have atm?
by staypositivefriend
Sat Dec 25, 2021 6:38 pm
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personally i think crich's anger is kind of towny but i dont feel like rewarding that type of posting with a townread
by staypositivefriend
Sat Dec 25, 2021 6:33 pm
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 2]

hope everyone is having a nice holiday so far
by staypositivefriend
Sat Dec 25, 2021 2:02 am
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also im watching a movie so im not technically here but ftr i think that dolby's catch-up posts were wolfy because the reads that they came out of it with didnt feel proportional to the stuff that they were actually observing. i'll elaborate more tomorrow, probably
by staypositivefriend
Sat Dec 25, 2021 2:00 am
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it's also a very good way to pocket me if youre a wolf
by staypositivefriend
Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:59 am
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honestly i want esooa to keep posting reasons why she thinks im town because i really enjoy when people do deep dives into my posts like that lol
by staypositivefriend
Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:36 am
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i townread esooa before it was cool
by staypositivefriend
Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:27 am
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 2]

falcon45ca wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:26 am
Esooa wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:13 am I'm voting Falcon, maybe if I say that with enough spunk I'll get called obvious town because that's all it matters, so here

Falcon is MAFIA Based on HOW HE LOOKS

I've given the necessary contributions now and will be taking my leave
No, this simply isn't true.


I am Town.



Am I the towniest town that ever towned this game? No, sadly not. But that doesn't change my alignment
the tone of this post feels strained/stilted to me and i actually find it somewhat wolfy but i should probably stop posting until i get to sit down and read the spew
by staypositivefriend
Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:25 am
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MacDougall wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:21 am
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:19 am not really feeling esooa being a wolf tbh
esooa tried to bury nook for scumreading wilgy spf... that's squarely in "exactly what wolf esooa would do" territory.
yeah i dont disagree that it's pretty typical for esooa to try to actively pull the chops away from her partners as a wolf, i just think the frustration she's showing at the start of today is clearly authentic, and i dont really see why esooa!wolf would be frustrated in this position but i can kind of understand why esooa!town would be frustrated in this position. i think the specific way her frustration is coming out might be >rand town for her

not sure how much i actually believe this now that ive typed it out, though
by staypositivefriend
Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:19 am
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not really feeling esooa being a wolf tbh
by staypositivefriend
Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:19 am
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i guess that fingersplints being a wolf makes some level of sense considering that ilario was one of the people most vocally suspicious of her yesterday, and i thought that her posts got gradually less and less towny yesterday after a strong start
by staypositivefriend
Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:14 am
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]

Lime Coke wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:07 am
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:22 pm
ilario wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:16 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:05 pm
ilario wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:43 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:38 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:20 pm I think we should abandon all other premise and just murder ilario.
I disagree. I think Ilario is one of my greenest reads.
Really?? Why?
Because your entry & agreement with Alison gave me towny vibes and you haven't done anything that I wouldn't read from a town voice? Plus my early scum read voted you so... :shrug:
kk that makes sense

who else is in ur town pile atm?
Would say that the greener people are you, LC, and Alison. Slight town lean on Esooa, slight town lean on Mac.

Wolf leans are Alexa, Dizzy, SPF.
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:44 pm
alexa wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:22 am @Lime Coke let me know if your feelings on SPF are still the same or not whenever you're around
There were a bit of times that I was kind of wavering in my tunnel on her, specifically the "you shouldn't have to be townreading me to try to work with me since that puts you into a conf-bias" post. Plus Alison mentioning that SPF responding with anger being town indicative for her is a decent point as well. At this rate I don't think she's mafia as much as I was last night.

I can't tell if it's me bitching out on scumreading her, or I was just wrong originally.
Also running out of confident enough options to vote out on Day 1.
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:45 pm
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:41 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:35 pm
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:20 pm [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine
why him?
zomg everyone's so towny

also his posts suck yet he has a lot of people townreading him for minor bad reasons which is >>>>rand wolf, and he hasn't answered my questioned about his dizzy read despite me pinging him multiple times
I saw one, and that was only because I re read. When in catch-up I'll often miss what was said while back reading until I get there.

At this point I'll take back my SPF wolf lean. The interactions between SPF and LC were good.

What did stick out was your slight town lean on Falcon. Talk to me about that one Alexa.
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:47 pmHmmmm....
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:48 pm That timing though...
I think this was something that might've spewed SPF town? I remember making this post because Wilgy states "SPF is a scumread" then I respond to Alexa saying I don't scumread SPF anymore after what Alison says, then Wilgy just 180's his read on her.

Which was why I posted those two right after.
yeah, this is part of the reason why i was reluctant to wolfread wilgy on d1, because i was under the impression that he would be more likely to encourage the T/T violence between you and me instead of trying to convince you that i was town. it was TMI that would be so brazen and so unbeneficial for the wolfteam that i figured it was >rand likely to be coming from a villager

but reading wilgy's ISO through the lens of him just TMI'ing the fuck out of most people in this game, his insistence that you/me are T/T makes more sense
by staypositivefriend
Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:08 am
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 2]

MacDougall wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:06 am
alexa wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:03 am
MacDougall wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:01 am
alexa wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:56 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:54 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:53 pm i should clearly never be partnered with wilgy based on how d1 played out but alright
whys that
She had a weird townread on him based on incorrect meta and I felt like as W/W she would uh... check that. Guess someone like SPF could fake that so I want to double check it tomorrow but at the time it felt not W/W to me and I was thinking Wilgy W
fake meta townreads on wolf teammates is a very common wolf tactic
I agree but it was the fact that she linked a game to call him town for, for being different than his scum meta, and in the game she linked he was town, that just felt too dopey to be W/W
you are probably right but like... everyone else except splints and esooa have better anti alignment reasons imo.

I guess depending on how you think about it maybe you could argue gira and falcon's reasons are about on par.
fwiw if youre town then i get the impression that youre probably misclearing someone but i havent read enough of the spew to figure out who it is

ill let u know in like 24 hours lol
by staypositivefriend
Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:07 am
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DrWilgy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:28 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:24 pm Town:
Alexa
Illario
Esooa
Alison
Dizzy

Most confident to least.
How are you so confident on Alexa?

Mine is
Town:
LC
SPF
Ilario
Alison
Esooa
also just gonna quote this for posterity
by staypositivefriend
Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:07 am
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DrWilgy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:54 pm I don't want to vote for Gira or Nook still.

Alexa is on Splints which makes me uncomfortable.
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:36 pm I just re-read Gira and they are town too.

Ezgame.
my general impression of skimming through wilgy's ISO is that he was a TMI machine - he loudly and aggressively townread and TMI'd me, lime coke, ilario, etc. as such, his treatment of gira and his insistence on calling him town when he was coming under pressure comes off as potential TMI of gira being town too, even though wilgy was prolly in anti-spew by the time that he made this post
by staypositivefriend
Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:57 pm
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DrWilgy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:22 pm
ilario wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:16 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:05 pm
ilario wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:43 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:38 pm
MacDougall wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:20 pm I think we should abandon all other premise and just murder ilario.
I disagree. I think Ilario is one of my greenest reads.
Really?? Why?
Because your entry & agreement with Alison gave me towny vibes and you haven't done anything that I wouldn't read from a town voice? Plus my early scum read voted you so... :shrug:
kk that makes sense

who else is in ur town pile atm?
Would say that the greener people are you, LC, and Alison. Slight town lean on Esooa, slight town lean on Mac.

Wolf leans are Alexa, Dizzy, SPF.
🤔
by staypositivefriend
Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:56 pm
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MacDougall wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:54 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:53 pm i should clearly never be partnered with wilgy based on how d1 played out but alright
whys that
because i was egregiously incorrect about him in a way that i doubt i would ever let myself be as a wolf

also i think that wilgy was clearly trying to pocket me by townreading me out of nowhere once i had softened on him and started calling him town (like in posts like these: viewtopic.php?p=882492#p882492)
by staypositivefriend
Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:53 pm
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i should clearly never be partnered with wilgy based on how d1 played out but alright

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