The Syndicate

I'm struggling to come up with a team formation that does not include creature, I think he is the most easily compatible with the rest of the people in my POE compared to everyone else

I'm waiting for a concert to start rn if anyone wants to chat with me about anything

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:12 pm @staypositivefriend what do you think of this solve?

tutuu
sabi
wilgy
sig
creature

unlikely, particularly because I find wilgys output over the last few hours possibly town indicative

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:27 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:14 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:09 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:04 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:55 pm SPF, what’s your current solve? Preferably without me in it.

bereft mac lucy town

creature/sabi/jack/tutuu contains 2-4 mafia

wilgy/falcon contains 0-1 mafia

sig/porscha/dennis contains 0-1 mafia

this might be a confusing readslist but sometimes breaking the game into tiers like this is helpful for me

Is Falcon just duping me then?

This whole Wilgy Falcon dynamic that is bothering several people doesn't make sense. Could it not we have a good read on each other?

What arguments have been made to the point of either of us being wrong or deceitful in our reads on e/o?

"sig/porscha/dennis contains 0-1 mafia" doesn't feel like a genuine take either.

your dynamic only bothers me in the sense that you and falcon are the two players who i have individually had the most trouble getting reads on in this game, and i think that both of your playstyles are uniquely difficult for me to read. i do not think you are both mafia, and i think it is possible that we live in a world where you are T v T, which is why i put you two into a separate tier and why i said that you two might contain zero mfia

can you explain to me why "sig/porscha/dennis contains 0-1 mafia" doesn't sound like a real read to you>? i'm saying that because i think porscha is likely to be town for meta reasons and i think dennis is likely to be town because i dont believe someone playing their 3rd game as mafia would be able to wolf this well and i thnk sig has a decent chance of being town because of the feeling that the way he treated roxy doesn't come from a position of TMI (which is, admittedly, my weakest read)

but i dont think im correct about all of those, so my approximation is that there's probably one wolf in that pool of 3

I don't mean to sound rude in this statement, but recognize the nature of what I am about to ask. Have you legitimately tried to read my slot? Do you find yourself giving up on doing so? I only ask because other players I've seen to directly quote and interact with me more often.

Falcon and I aren't even a T v T thing. Falcon and I seem to have formed consistent reads on e/o as town, there's no headbutting going on there.

The 0-1 on those three is what I doubt. I feel that your statement is very noncommittal but with the further discussion I can believe abit more. For example... If it's 0-1 there instead of just 1, that opens the possibility of 0... In which case idk dood are we just playing a 4 wolf game or something in your head?

honestly? no, not really. i've opened your ISO a few times and my eyes glazed over your posts and then i stopped reading them. i have not tried to meaningfully read for your alignment this game, and i have done the same for falcon.

and a world where the 0-1 is 0 instead of 1 is a world where:

A. all 4 of the rest of my immediate POE (creature/sabi/tutuu/jack) are mafia

B. there is a mafia within you falcon

in which case i perceive the world where there is a mafia within sig/porscha/dennis to be more likely than a world where A and B are both true

so it is non-committal, and i don't have a problem admitting that. it's just where my head is at rn

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:21 pm [VOTE: spf] aubergine

can you please interact with my posts

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:09 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:04 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:55 pm SPF, what’s your current solve? Preferably without me in it.

bereft mac lucy town

creature/sabi/jack/tutuu contains 2-4 mafia

wilgy/falcon contains 0-1 mafia

sig/porscha/dennis contains 0-1 mafia

this might be a confusing readslist but sometimes breaking the game into tiers like this is helpful for me

Is Falcon just duping me then?

This whole Wilgy Falcon dynamic that is bothering several people doesn't make sense. Could it not we have a good read on each other?

What arguments have been made to the point of either of us being wrong or deceitful in our reads on e/o?

"sig/porscha/dennis contains 0-1 mafia" doesn't feel like a genuine take either.

your dynamic only bothers me in the sense that you and falcon are the two players who i have individually had the most trouble getting reads on in this game, and i think that both of your playstyles are uniquely difficult for me to read. i do not think you are both mafia, and i think it is possible that we live in a world where you are T v T, which is why i put you two into a separate tier and why i said that you two might contain zero mfia

can you explain to me why "sig/porscha/dennis contains 0-1 mafia" doesn't sound like a real read to you>? i'm saying that because i think porscha is likely to be town for meta reasons and i think dennis is likely to be town because i dont believe someone playing their 3rd game as mafia would be able to wolf this well and i thnk sig has a decent chance of being town because of the feeling that the way he treated roxy doesn't come from a position of TMI (which is, admittedly, my weakest read)

but i dont think im correct about all of those, so my approximation is that there's probably one wolf in that pool of 3

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:04 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:03 pm Tutuu and SPF have been fighting all day

we barely talked to each other

it's bcuz i am super angry at u and giving u the silent treatment

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:55 pm SPF, what’s your current solve? Preferably without me in it.

bereft mac lucy town

creature/sabi/jack/tutuu contains 2-4 mafia

wilgy/falcon contains 0-1 mafia

sig/porscha/dennis contains 0-1 mafia

this might be a confusing readslist but sometimes breaking the game into tiers like this is helpful for me

if bereft is mafia im also not sure how im supposed to get there rn

if bereft is mafia then he has done a good job pocketing me by being one of the only people in this game representing a sane/logical perspective

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:10 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:05 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:56 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:52 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:47 pm Can people just ask me questions because I feel like people are talking about me but never engaging with me.

Hard for me fam as I think you are basically townfirmed based on Kate.

Also why is SPF wallposting wolf indicative?

Because I dealt with wolf spf twice in games (and specced/hosted her numerous times).

Someone on hydra game said something about her views in the game being polarized as wolf. Or something like that.

i told you in a chat a couple of months ago that i tend to wallpost more as a wolf than as town because wallposting makes people townread me more by default. but the read doesn't make sense anyway considering i've made about 2 posts in this game that i would consider to be a "wallpost", unless you think that writing like 3 paragraphs counts as a wall now

also i'm not polarized at all tbh

I wonder if this has anything to do with your wolfy Creature wallpost from early game that I called you out on?

that's not even a wallpost by SPF standards. you have no idea what a SPF wallpost looks like if you think the creature post counted as one. i'm only at 30% of my maximum power rn

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:15 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 1:17 pm @Porscha pls help us sister im begging u. i think the game is winnable. pls read mine and bereft's posts on this page and previous one

@Seanzie pls help us

I want SPF.

i see why mac got so annoyed now. can you interact with my posts today and give me your thoughts on the stuff that i'm posting instead of uncritically parking your vote on me because of The Gamestate? it is getting increasingly difficult to believe that you are playing from a town mindset when your posts today are just so egregiously bad

@tutuu -

i think that for me to get to a world where you are town and bereft is mafia, i need you to explain to me why bereft is mafia with reasoning that extends beyond: "his tone in this post is scummy" or "my heart is purer than berefts", or anything like that

because yeah, i do admit that a big part of my reasoning to townread bereft is because his solving and his analysis feels like it comes from the perspective of someone who is thinking critically about the game, and of course it's possible for me to be wrong about that, but if i am, i'm not going to be able to find him through tone or heart or whatever. my brain doesn't work that way. i need concrete logic

and the point you brought up about bereft having TMI of roxy's alignment is the best one you've mentioned, since it makes "sense" to me on a logical level that some wolves may have TMI'd roxy's alignment yesterday to look good after she flipped. but i dont really even think that aligns with how bereft has played (like him making a post yesterday calling roxy obvious mafia, even if he did doubt himself toward the end, which i also did)

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:16 am i honored alison's legacy. i townread her but she agreed to die and if so we follow her reads. and so i did

roxy was believed to be in anti-spewed as said by bereft

before roxy flipped town, bereft somehow got his "spider sense" to tingle that "something is weird" - he he put me in his PoE, from "so town it hurts"

then the little punk comes today and votes me

berfet is MAFIA

this is not an explanation of why bereft is mafia, this is just a description of how he has played the game. why do you believe it is wolf indicative for bereft to get a sense that "something is weird"? why do you think that it is scummy for him to go from townreading you to POE'ing you when you are doing the same to him? this read does not make sense.

i need to go to bed though so bye

i would like people to give me their opinions on wilgy and falcon please

im just a really fast typer lol

my average is like 120ish but on my best days i can hit 140

the reason why im scumreading you now (in this moment) is because you just put me in your immediate POE in spite of townreading me consistently throughout the game, and you put bereft in that POE as well even though you have also been townreading bereft, and it feels to me like you are taking advantage of the shitty threadstate to inject more paranoia into the game, and not actually interested in solving or figuring things out

the reason why i started scumreading you is because i realized that i did not have any logical or coherent reasons to townread you beyond: "i like her tone" or "i think the conviction behind some of her posts is towny", and when i am townreading strong players based on ~vibes~ alone, this is the territory where i tend to misclear people the most

roxy's alignment made no difference to my read on you

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:35 am bereft, spf, dennis, falcon, porscha

hows this sound?

are you just omgusing me then

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:08 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:07 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:05 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:56 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:52 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:47 pm Can people just ask me questions because I feel like people are talking about me but never engaging with me.

Hard for me fam as I think you are basically townfirmed based on Kate.

Also why is SPF wallposting wolf indicative?

Because I dealt with wolf spf twice in games (and specced/hosted her numerous times).

Someone on hydra game said something about her views in the game being polarized as wolf. Or something like that.

i told you in a chat a couple of months ago that i tend to wallpost more as a wolf than as town because wallposting makes people townread me more by default. but the read doesn't make sense anyway considering i've made about 2 posts in this game that i would consider to be a "wallpost", unless you think that writing like 3 paragraphs counts as a wall now

also i'm not polarized at all tbh

No but proph said your pov in games are like. Polarized as maf.

You have wrote. More. Wallpost than. That

Stop gaslighting

no.....proph said that my reads as mafia tend to be very one dimensional and not very thoughtful, whereas my reads as town are more complex and multi-faceted

i was mafia in the game youre referring to, and proph incorrectly thought i was town BECAUSE of how complex my reads were, so it doesn't make sense to use this as an example of me being polarized. and also, it's not gaslighting, i just haven't made many wallposts in this game in general

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:56 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:52 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:47 pm Can people just ask me questions because I feel like people are talking about me but never engaging with me.

Hard for me fam as I think you are basically townfirmed based on Kate.

Also why is SPF wallposting wolf indicative?

Because I dealt with wolf spf twice in games (and specced/hosted her numerous times).

Someone on hydra game said something about her views in the game being polarized as wolf. Or something like that.

i told you in a chat a couple of months ago that i tend to wallpost more as a wolf than as town because wallposting makes people townread me more by default. but the read doesn't make sense anyway considering i've made about 2 posts in this game that i would consider to be a "wallpost", unless you think that writing like 3 paragraphs counts as a wall now

also i'm not polarized at all tbh

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:41 pm I said I wanted to kill Creature yesterday. I said I'd kill Roxy if the towncore said so. And they did so we did.

I'm not avoiding responsibility for that. I voted Roxy. I didn't case someone else.

But thinking it's me and Creature is so blatantly wrong it's kinda gross.

this is not a compelling argument for you and creature not being W/W, considering that roxy was the obvious consensus elimination yesterday from the moment that the day started

there was no real risk of creature dying yesterday (at least to my perception) so pushing on him would also be low-risk if you're W/W

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:27 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:22 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:21 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:06 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:02 pm

Bereft wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:35 pm Seanzie/SPF/Falcon does probably in fact contain exactly one wolf was the only thing I gathered overnight.

Sean is starting to ping me. I feel he's laying an undue amount of burden at Mac's feet...and he talks about a rotten towncore, but is he not part of said core? It's not as tho he's been a major wagon or anything

I'm not laying an undue amount of burden at Mac's feet. My burden is with the group {SPF, Mac, Bereft}. I don't think the burden I've placed on that group as a whole is undue.

Of those 3, I choose SPF.

why?

What's your solve right now? Who are your top 3 sus and why plz?

my current view of the game is that i would be mildly surprised if the pool of sabi/creature/jack didn't contain at least two mafia

sabi because sabi is very talented at projecting towniness/solveiness when they are town, and they also have a tendency to get extremely invested into games when they are town and post a lot of content/thoughts without needing to think much about them

whereas sabi here feels a lot more timid, a lot less invested, and it feels like they are choosing their words carefully in the majority of posts that they do make. i think that if sabi was town, it would be eaiser to find them as town right now, which is why i want more pressure on them today in general

creature is in my immediate POE because he fits the archetype of a wolf who has aggressively pushed for the consensus while maintaining a comfortable/protected view in the gamestate. his reads have consistently contained a level of confidence and bravado that do not feel proportional to his solving, and that also do not feel proportional to how creature usually solves games as town

im also pretty convinced that if creature was town he would be throwing a fit about me/mac needing to be deepwolves right now instead of just kind of passively sitting back in the gamestate and voting me without really expressing a particularly coherent view of the game. i think creature's passivity in this gamestate could be explained by him just wanting us to continue burying each other alive

jack because his push on alison on d1 was illogical and bad faith, and the type of stuff he pushed on alison for is not the stuff i think jack!town would care about as someone who was already very familiar with alison. i also think that his primary intention for the last phase has been to pocket me, sit back, and watch us set ourselves on fire

im working it out beyond that but i think bereft/tutuu contains 1 and that it is likely to be tutuu

i'm like....a player that exists in the game. you can interact with me. you can figure out my alignment by talking to me about my reads and asking me questions. it is a pet peeve of mine when people try to read me on vibes without seeming to care much for the actual stuff i'm saying. feels like i'm a ghost at times

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:21 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:06 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:02 pm

Bereft wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:35 pm Seanzie/SPF/Falcon does probably in fact contain exactly one wolf was the only thing I gathered overnight.

Sean is starting to ping me. I feel he's laying an undue amount of burden at Mac's feet...and he talks about a rotten towncore, but is he not part of said core? It's not as tho he's been a major wagon or anything

I'm not laying an undue amount of burden at Mac's feet. My burden is with the group {SPF, Mac, Bereft}. I don't think the burden I've placed on that group as a whole is undue.

Of those 3, I choose SPF.

why?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:10 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:08 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:49 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:15 pm changed my mind overnight and dont think sig is mafia anymore. i think sabi/creature/jack contains at least 2.

think the game is being deepwolfed by probably exactly tutuu/one other player but im interested in just voting out a wolf today regardless of anything else

what wonderful means changed your mind?

mostly that im not sure sig would wear his TMI that roxy was going to flip town so brazenly yesterday, and the way he has consistently come off as being jaded and betrayed by the game feels like a nearly identical perspective to the one that roxy projected at the end of yesterday. roxy and sig were linked in my mind in a number of ways and roxy flipping town increased the chances that sig is town too for a number of reasons

it is possible that im clearing sig too easily but yeah

I honestly think the opposite. Sig would very much be like 'wow I was right' as any alignment. I do really think the argument more is the difference between vehemently opposing the Roxy wagon vs letting it be while still ending on the correct side of history.

i'm not sure that i can blame sig for not fighting hard to save roxy because in his position as villager then he would probably feel powerless against the overwhelming consensus of: "roxy mafia"

i do think it's true that sig would be incentivized as mafia to let the roxy elimination happen, but in that position, my intuition is that most wolves would play it a little more ...covertly? instead of just talking over and over about how roxy is going to flip town and how stupid everyone is about to look. it feels jaded to me in a way that is also unstrategic

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:49 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:15 pm changed my mind overnight and dont think sig is mafia anymore. i think sabi/creature/jack contains at least 2.

think the game is being deepwolfed by probably exactly tutuu/one other player but im interested in just voting out a wolf today regardless of anything else

what wonderful means changed your mind?

mostly that im not sure sig would wear his TMI that roxy was going to flip town so brazenly yesterday, and the way he has consistently come off as being jaded and betrayed by the game feels like a nearly identical perspective to the one that roxy projected at the end of yesterday. roxy and sig were linked in my mind in a number of ways and roxy flipping town increased the chances that sig is town too for a number of reasons

it is possible that im clearing sig too easily but yeah

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:46 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:39 pm also the implication that me/mac/bereft are powerwolfing implies that we are responsible for creating the gamestate, when much of our play has been in reaction to the gamestate. we opposed the baud and alison wagons on d1. i opposed the alison wagon on d2 before the day ended, and the only day where really got a good say in eliminating exactly who i wanted to was exactly yesterday

i do have paranoia about exactly bereft being mafia, but even if we live in that world, it feels more likely to me that the wolves are coasting in a wolfsided gamestate instead of going out of their way to create the gamestate. im not sure that i would call that powerwolfing as much as i would call it just sitting back and waiting to win the game

No, it implies that you did not do anything to prevent this gamestate. Has town played well? No. Have the town leaders fixed that? no. If all the people town is looking up to are wolves, it isn't that hard to simply nudge town away from the occasional wolf wagon that might pop up and otherwise let the leaderless townies bury themselves.

That is what this game feels like.

this does not sound like an accurate assessment of how this game has progressed

on day one, the top wagons for a good portion of the dayphasewere baud and alison, who were both town. i (along with mac/bereft) fought against these wagons, which ended with us killing fingersplints specifically because she fit into a world where the wolves were disingenuously trying to get alison miseliminated

on day two, the dayphase did not exist, but i expressed concern that alison might just be a villager and that i was discontent with the gamestate right before it ended. there wasn't much else i could have done to "prevent" the gamestate in that phase

i think that day 3 is the closest you come to having a legitimate point, because it is true that me/mac/bereft advocated for roxy to be eliminated. i will note that i actively pursued options yesterday that were not roxy and made a point to keep my vote off of her wagon for the entire dayphase, even though i perceived her as the consensus wagon

so, i guess my question is, what else do you think i could have reasonably done to keep the gamestate from becoming the way that it has? i was able to identify that there was T/T violence happening on d1. and i tried to get people off of those wagons, but there is only so much one person can do. i'm only as good as the rest of my team

Bereft wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:39 pm SPF, why are you voting Kate?
Kate isn't being obviously wolfy, they've posted nothing all game, just vote Jack or smth.
I was wrong to ignore my Roxy null read and I'm not going to ignore my nullreads now.

i am interested in bringing more attention to sabi today in particular because they are very capable of projecting towniness and being a valuable asset to the game when they are town, and they have not done either of those things so far. that's pretty much it

also the implication that me/mac/bereft are powerwolfing implies that we are responsible for creating the gamestate, when much of our play has been in reaction to the gamestate. we opposed the baud and alison wagons on d1. i opposed the alison wagon on d2 before the day ended, and the only day where really got a good say in eliminating exactly who i wanted to was exactly yesterday

i do have paranoia about exactly bereft being mafia, but even if we live in that world, it feels more likely to me that the wolves are coasting in a wolfsided gamestate instead of going out of their way to create the gamestate. im not sure that i would call that powerwolfing as much as i would call it just sitting back and waiting to win the game

also the thing about taking down a powerwolfing wolfteam is that you start by taking out their weakest links, not their strongest ones. if seanzie believes that the game is being powerwolfed and he believes that things are upside down then this focus should be on getting any wolf killed, as opposed to trying to kill among the wolves would be buried the most deeply in the gamestate

powerwolfing is like playing dominoes and when you knock one domino down, the rest tend to come crumbling down as well, etc. this is why my approach today is to kill literally any wolf regardless of their position in the gamestate and regardless of how deep they are, because regardless of whether or not we are being powerwolfed, that is the best way to break the game open and swing momentum back in our favor

i think that the game is hard, and the flips have proven to me that the game is hard less because the wolves are nefariously commandeering the gamestate and more because we have collectively been eating each other alive for the last several phases

my general impression is that this is the type of gamestate that is favorable to the wolves by default, as opposed to a gamestate that the wolves have needed to go out of their way to cultivate. so, i am particularly interested in identifying the people who were checked out and only interested in reinforcing the status quo throughout the last couple of days

it's not that hard to figure out my alignment

seanzie does your read on me exist individually of my association with mac/bereft?

changed my mind overnight and dont think sig is mafia anymore. i think sabi/creature/jack contains at least 2.

think the game is being deepwolfed by probably exactly tutuu/one other player but im interested in just voting out a wolf today regardless of anything else

Bereft wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:57 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:51 pm

Bereft wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:49 pm How about Roxy/Kate/Jack/Wilgy/Tutuu .

you're missing sig

Im not.

why do u townread him

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:53 pm @staypositivefriend get off creature fr

how sure are u about roxy being mafia

Bereft wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:49 pm How about Roxy/Kate/Jack/Wilgy/Tutuu .

you're missing sig

.

my perception is that roxy's treatment of alison on d1 and roxy appearing to be in anti-spew today is more of a factor in the wagon than alison's legacy on her, but i do agree that there probably wouldn't be as many votes if it wasn't for alison's legacy

meh it's fine actually, i was just pinged because it felt to me like you were implicitly strawmanning the wagon on roxy by implying it is ~solely~ because of alison's legacy.

i think the fact that roxy has given up on playing the game entirely and appears to be in anti-spew by all indications is the strongest reason i have for her being a wolf

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:21 pm Can someone actually give me why we are killing Roxy and don't say because Alison

i dont like this post

i am mafia.

going to post a reminder that succession is one of the best shows ever created and everyone here should watch it if they havent

that sounds awesome

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:06 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:04 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:01 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:57 pm i dont really have a lot to say before the day ends

im here while multitasking at work if anyone wants to talk to me i guess

Do you agree both Roxy and sig are wolves? Where would you go next excluding me?

i am struggling to come to a world where roxy/sig/jack/sabi/tutuu does not contain the majority of the wolfteam

So you no longer think I'm a wolf?

no, you're in my POE too, but you said to exclude you