The Syndicate

i tend to misclear people based off of meta more than anything else so if im getting snowed by lime coke because im townreading him on the basis of "meta" then i guess i deserve it lol

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 12:02 am alexa this is sorta the stupid way to ask this question but can LC be snowing you or is that just like beyond possibility (be honest)
same question, eventually, to spf

lime coke is townier in this game than ive seen him in even most of his town games, which would mean that a world where he's a wolf is a world where he became an EXTREMELY good and scary wolf within an extremely short period of time. it's possible and it is something i'm considering while i'm re-evaluating my reads, but i don't find it particularly likely

fwiw i dont think lime coke has actually wolfed against me before, but i remember his wolf meta from epicmafia chat games pretty well

Gira wrote: ↑Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:03 am anyway

spf is trying to propose the possibility that the wagon on falcon was all town

this is a patently ridiculous idea from my point of view: the only three people alive who did not vote falcon are me, dolby, and nanook. for me to accept that idea i would have to accept that the mafia team is dolby/nanook and nanook just kind of passively bussed dolby and let town drive itself off a cliff. but i don't think that's what he'd do as mafia, and he was raelly trying to get people to vote dolby. so that idea is outrageous from my point of view, and it should be obvious why i reject it

now, from her pov you have to have the consideration that the team is me/dolby. this, again, doesn't make a ton of sense because i easily could have let myself vote falcon after my rereading earlier in the day, so again that assumes i'm really desperately bussing or something. which is possible, i guess, but i don't think it would seem the most likely. but regardless: dolby replaced alison. go look back at alison's iso. it is not very long. i was the one person in the game that alison pushed. we make absolutely no sense whatsoever as a mafia team. this should be really obvious for anyone to see. (this was the somewhat greedy reason i wanted dolby flipped because i could argue this in my defense).

any rational person could see that alison/me makes no sense as a team. but this is the solve stay positive friend is advocating. she is not a ridiculous or irrational person, so why is she proposing this? it is because she is mafia and does not care to think about the game rationally, only in terms of narratives that are convenient to her. she does not care about solving the game

oh and just to clear things up, i think that gira was actually right that it was illogical for me to believe that he and dolby worked as a team. i looked over the interactions between gira and dolby and thought that they were compatible (and no, i didn't find think his point about not voting for dolby on d2 was a compelling reason to dissociate the two of them), but i didn't look at the interactions on alison's side and failed to factor in that they looked pretty clearly unaligned with each other

this was the first post i thought was actually pretty towny from gira because the logic was actually correct, but i guess it'd be pretty easy to make this post from the POV of a wolf that knows he is being incorrectly paired with another player for bad reasons

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 11:43 pm hm
i had a "if I'm dead this is the team" team

which team was that?

i'm re-evaluating all of my reads from scratch and then going from there. that was the second (or possibly even third day) in a row where the day ended like ~24 hours before the deadline and im a little frustrated that i haven't even had the time to solve this game properly

alright

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:06 am I have Gira as town so that's kind of a weird question

if it isn't clear, i'm asking who you think the wolf that isn't dolby would be, since you are townreading gira

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:05 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:04 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:01 am I don't think Gira is mafia
what would your solve look like in a world where gira is town?
Dolby

i agree that the solve is dolby/dolby

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:01 am I don't think Gira is mafia

what would your solve look like in a world where gira is town?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:52 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:51 pm well today is off to a good start
Where are you at as a whole?

i think the easy level 0 solve is just dolby/gira and that's roughly where i landed overnight, im planning on re-evaluating all of my townreads today just to make sure that im not getting fooled by anyone but it'll be later cause the ~vibes~ of the game rn are not great

well today is off to a good start

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:41 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:39 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:37 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:35 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:35 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:33 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:32 pm

nah im not voting this early in the day
WHAT ARE YOU SCARED OF IF YOU'RE SO SURE I'M SCUM
did i say that i'm sure that youi're scum? i DO actually think that you have a high amount of wolf equity based on how small my POE is getting and based on how towny everyone else in this game looks, but if i was 100% convinced that you were a wolf i wouldnt even bother communicating with you right now

in fact, youre the one that is voting me 10 minutes into the day lol
30 minutes into the day*** but you get the point
i don't have the same compunctions about voting that you do and i have no reason to believe you're town based on how you're posting
but it seems like you don't have any reasons to scumread me either, so that means your read on me basically boils down to: "everyone else looks townier"

which, funnily enough, is exactly how i feel about you. if youre town then it shouldnt be difficult to see why i think that you logically fit as a wolf based on how the game has played out
my reason for thinking you are mafia is that you specifically made weaselly excuses to avoid voting dolby yesterday despite claiming that he made sense as mafia from your POV

it does not have to do with your read on me or thinking other people are townier and i don't know why you'd claim it does

can you point me to where i made "weaselly excuses" to avoid voting dolby yesterday? i said multiple times before the EOD that i thought dolby was the optimal chop, and that i intended to end the day with my vote on him. i ended up switching to falcon as a spur-of-the-moment thing because i got emboldened by alexa's push on him, but to say that i "made excuses" to avoid voting dolby just seems patently untrue

if you want to call me a wolf solely because i ended the day with my vote on falcon, then sure

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:43 pm for what it's worth, the last time someone in a game accused me of misogyny for scumreading them, they were mafia

but in a short span alexa has insulted my intelligence and accused me of being a misogynist for scumreading her and i find this unacceptable within the context of a mafia game

i'm leaving the thread now, maybe i will be back later

fwiw i am pretty sure that alexa's "keep hating women" comment was intended to be humorous and not a serious accusation of misogyny

like if youre town then i get why you would be frustrated by the falcon wagon, but i think that town make stupid spur-of-the-moment decisions all of the time that end up benefitting the scumteam, so the fact that falcon got CFD''d is not a good enough reason BY ITSELF to scumread the people who were on the wagon

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:38 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:37 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:35 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:34 pm i'm openwolfing because i told you that i disagreed with your interpretation of the falcon wagon?
no because you're pivoting to shoving me because i'm rightly calling out how scummy your actions were at the end of the day
nope, i told you that i disagreed with you that the falcon wagon needed to have a wolf on it even if the falcon chop was obviously beneficial for the wolves, and you immediately voted me before i even outed a scumread on you
yes because i think you're trying to absolve suspicion from an obvious pro-scum move

but i agree with you that it was a pro-scum move - i just disagree that it needed to be pushed BY the wolves, considering that:

A. there was a lot of suspicion against falcon bubbling throughout the entire day

B. the wagon emerged within the last ~10 minutes of the day, which means that it couldn't have been part of any long-term wolf strategy

C. the people who were on the wagon generally look towny

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:37 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:35 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:35 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:33 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:32 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:32 pm cool, then vote me
nah im not voting this early in the day
WHAT ARE YOU SCARED OF IF YOU'RE SO SURE I'M SCUM
did i say that i'm sure that youi're scum? i DO actually think that you have a high amount of wolf equity based on how small my POE is getting and based on how towny everyone else in this game looks, but if i was 100% convinced that you were a wolf i wouldnt even bother communicating with you right now

in fact, youre the one that is voting me 10 minutes into the day lol
30 minutes into the day*** but you get the point
i don't have the same compunctions about voting that you do and i have no reason to believe you're town based on how you're posting

but it seems like you don't have any reasons to scumread me either, so that means your read on me basically boils down to: "everyone else looks townier"

which, funnily enough, is exactly how i feel about you. if youre town then it shouldnt be difficult to see why i think that you logically fit as a wolf based on how the game has played out

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:35 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:34 pm i'm openwolfing because i told you that i disagreed with your interpretation of the falcon wagon?
no because you're pivoting to shoving me because i'm rightly calling out how scummy your actions were at the end of the day

nope, i told you that i disagreed with you that the falcon wagon needed to have a wolf on it even if the falcon chop was obviously beneficial for the wolves, and you immediately voted me before i even outed a scumread on you

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:35 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:33 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:32 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:32 pm cool, then vote me
nah im not voting this early in the day
WHAT ARE YOU SCARED OF IF YOU'RE SO SURE I'M SCUM
did i say that i'm sure that youi're scum? i DO actually think that you have a high amount of wolf equity based on how small my POE is getting and based on how towny everyone else in this game looks, but if i was 100% convinced that you were a wolf i wouldnt even bother communicating with you right now

in fact, youre the one that is voting me 10 minutes into the day lol

30 minutes into the day*** but you get the point

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:33 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:32 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:32 pm cool, then vote me
nah im not voting this early in the day
WHAT ARE YOU SCARED OF IF YOU'RE SO SURE I'M SCUM

did i say that i'm sure that youi're scum? i DO actually think that you have a high amount of wolf equity based on how small my POE is getting and based on how towny everyone else in this game looks, but if i was 100% convinced that you were a wolf i wouldnt even bother communicating with you right now

in fact, youre the one that is voting me 10 minutes into the day lol

i'm openwolfing because i told you that i disagreed with your interpretation of the falcon wagon?

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:32 pm cool, then vote me

nah im not voting this early in the day

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:30 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:29 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:27 pm the falcon wagon was proscum because dolby is the infinitely easier elimination by far and keeping him in the game, REGARDLESS OF HIS ALIGNMENT, was beneficial for scum and someone doing bullshit twisty-ass logic to call him scum but vote elsewhere is +++scum
i mean, the falcon wagon was definitely beneficial for the scumteam regardless of dolby's alignment, but i disagree that something being beneficial for the wolves means that a wolf was likely to be involved with it - the fact that the wagon was as unplanned as it was indicates to me that it could have easily been driven by villagers
[VOTE: spf] aubergine

you could probably read the writing on the wall and see that i was about to scumread you so i guess that this makes sense lol

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:27 pm the falcon wagon was proscum because dolby is the infinitely easier elimination by far and keeping him in the game, REGARDLESS OF HIS ALIGNMENT, was beneficial for scum and someone doing bullshit twisty-ass logic to call him scum but vote elsewhere is +++scum

i mean, the falcon wagon was definitely beneficial for the scumteam regardless of dolby's alignment, but i disagree that something being beneficial for the wolves means that a wolf was likely to be involved with it - the fact that the wagon was as unplanned as it was indicates to me that it could have easily been driven by villagers

do you have a reason to think that the falcon wagon definitely has a wolf beyond the fact that youre frustrated that it happened? not asking facetiously, im genuinely curious

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:26 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:25 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:22 pm i'm not even entirely convinced dolby is scum unfortunately but in all goddamn likelihood there's scum in spf/alexa
if you're not convinced that dolby is a wolf, then why does there need to be a wolf within me/alexa? if we live in a world where the wagons were V/V, then it becomes more plausible that the falcon wagon was all villagers
that is completely asinine

how so?

that said, i do find it hard to envision a world where dolby isnt a wolf

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:22 pm i'm not even entirely convinced dolby is scum unfortunately but in all goddamn likelihood there's scum in spf/alexa

if you're not convinced that dolby is a wolf, then why does there need to be a wolf within me/alexa? if we live in a world where the wagons were V/V, then it becomes more plausible that the falcon wagon was all villagers

alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:56 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:55 pm [VOTE: falcon] aubergine
spf V tbh

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:50 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:47 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:45 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:45 pm why am i in your POE??? havent you been townreading me for the majority of this game?
townleaned but the stakes have gotten higher
it's ok, this will be yet another game where i am on the outskirts of almost everyones POE but i inexplicably end up surviving for the entire game. u cant kill a goddess
this is kind of towny ego ngl

it's towny enough to prevent me from getting chopped but not towny enough to make people reliably townread me. that gray area is where i absolutely thrive

alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:45 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:45 pm why am i in your POE??? havent you been townreading me for the majority of this game?
townleaned but the stakes have gotten higher

it's ok, this will be yet another game where i am on the outskirts of almost everyones POE but i inexplicably end up surviving for the entire game. u cant kill a goddess

how many votes are required for hammer, btw?

why am i in your POE??? havent you been townreading me for the majority of this game?

podracing

[VOTE: SPF] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:41 pm can it be gira/Dolby?

maybe ... who cares if so

im going to say "yes" based solely on the fact that i didnt like how he scumread me on the last page

alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:39 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:38 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:37 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:24 pm SPF why am i your top townread?
lime coke is actually my top townread, but i think that youre probably town based on:

A. as a wolf, i think that it would be difficult for you to replicate the reaction you had to my "push" on you on d1. one of the main things that you struggle to fake as a wolf (IMO) is legitimate conviction, and your reaction to me on d1 was FILLED with conviction and frustration

B. one of the biggest ways youve formed reads in this game is by checking how other people are perceiving you (like youre doing right now, i suspect lol), and i think this is >rand town behavior for you as well. your reads have changed fluidly based on how people are reading you, whereas as a wolf ive noticed that your progressions feel less "random" and come off as more calculated

C. wilgy's treatment of you throughout d1 looked unaligned

honestly d1 of this game happened so long ago that i found this post difficult to write. it feels like it was part of a completely different game
that was a joke question but thank you (i say this without reading this but this is a long response so ik it's serious)
i kinda scumread the FILLED being in all caps for some reason

honestly i capitalize random words a lot more often as mafia than i do as town. it's a good way to look like there's conviction behind your words even if youre saying gibberish

maybe i am mafia

alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:30 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:24 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:22 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:20 pm
you said that falcon is town because he lacks a wolf agenda. falcon entered the game with a POE of fingersplints/me and has been pushing on it for the entire time that he's been alive while AFKing from the thread. even in a world where falcon is a villager, his pushes in this game explicitly align with a wolf agenda, which makes the reasoning of: "falcon lacks a wolf agenda" obviously flawed
I meant today specifically... he's not trying to win as mafia in any conceivable way
yes, and neither is dolby. i think that's because the scum team is outed and has given up on playing the game. that's not a good reason to townread him
I don't see how falcon is outed
the thread has been super stagnant and boring today, and of the people who have been posting, the majority of them have felt pretty towny to me. this indicates to me that the wolfteam is likely to be playing a more low-effort/demotivated game, which would align with dolby making a few scummy posts and dropping from the thread, and it would align with falcon playing very sparsely as well

im using the word "outed" hyperbolically, but i do think that dolby is more or less outed, and i doubt that his partner is in a good position right now
how is dolby "more or less outed"

he had a good amount of WIM throughout d1 and seemed eager to dialogue with people (or was it d2? who knows), but today he entered the thread by making a series of overly vague and generic catch-up posts, and then dipped from the thread entirely. i think that the posts he made today, in conjunction with him dipping from the thread, comes from a wolf like >80% of the time

alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:24 pm SPF why am i your top townread?

lime coke is actually my top townread, but i think that youre probably town based on:

A. as a wolf, i think that it would be difficult for you to replicate the reaction you had to my "push" on you on d1. one of the main things that you struggle to fake as a wolf (IMO) is legitimate conviction, and your reaction to me on d1 was FILLED with conviction and frustration

B. one of the biggest ways youve formed reads in this game is by checking how other people are perceiving you (like youre doing right now, i suspect lol), and i think this is >rand town behavior for you as well. your reads have changed fluidly based on how people are reading you, whereas as a wolf ive noticed that your progressions feel less "random" and come off as more calculated

C. wilgy's treatment of you throughout d1 looked unaligned

honestly d1 of this game happened so long ago that i found this post difficult to write. it feels like it was part of a completely different game

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:24 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:22 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:20 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:19 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:15 pm

so fmpov as town, am i supposed to uncritically sheep your townread on falcon even though the reasoning is obviously incorrect?
what is incorrect about the reasoning?

you said that falcon is town because he lacks a wolf agenda. falcon entered the game with a POE of fingersplints/me and has been pushing on it for the entire time that he's been alive while AFKing from the thread. even in a world where falcon is a villager, his pushes in this game explicitly align with a wolf agenda, which makes the reasoning of: "falcon lacks a wolf agenda" obviously flawed
I meant today specifically... he's not trying to win as mafia in any conceivable way
yes, and neither is dolby. i think that's because the scum team is outed and has given up on playing the game. that's not a good reason to townread him
I don't see how falcon is outed

the thread has been super stagnant and boring today, and of the people who have been posting, the majority of them have felt pretty towny to me. this indicates to me that the wolfteam is likely to be playing a more low-effort/demotivated game, which would align with dolby making a few scummy posts and dropping from the thread, and it would align with falcon playing very sparsely as well

im using the word "outed" hyperbolically, but i do think that dolby is more or less outed, and i doubt that his partner is in a good position right now

...really? there were four different players not named Falcon on the last page that expressed suspicion/paranoia against me. in a world where falcon is a wolf then it would be pretty logical from his point of view to park his vote on me and hope that people would eventually kill me out of paranoia

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:22 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:20 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:19 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:14 pm Mac's reasoning to townread falcon being bad is just wolf agenda. Like... yes my reasoning sucks but point it out, ignoring it and then pushing on Falcon just outs you and Dolby as the wolves.
so fmpov as town, am i supposed to uncritically sheep your townread on falcon even though the reasoning is obviously incorrect?
what is incorrect about the reasoning?

you said that falcon is town because he lacks a wolf agenda. falcon entered the game with a POE of fingersplints/me and has been pushing on it for the entire time that he's been alive while AFKing from the thread. even in a world where falcon is a villager, his pushes in this game explicitly align with a wolf agenda, which makes the reasoning of: "falcon lacks a wolf agenda" obviously flawed
I meant today specifically... he's not trying to win as mafia in any conceivable way

yes, and neither is dolby. i think that's because the scum team is outed and has given up on playing the game. that's not a good reason to townread him

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:20 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:19 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:19 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:14 pm Mac's reasoning to townread falcon being bad is just wolf agenda. Like... yes my reasoning sucks but point it out, ignoring it and then pushing on Falcon just outs you and Dolby as the wolves.
If your reasoning sucks why would someone sheep it?
cuz I'm mac, nobody has strong reads and it's just a townread anyway in a world where you can easily sheep it and vote somewhere else

not doing so is just pro wolf
please reference 3 posts ago where i said that i think dolby is the optimal chop today
Alison > Dolby (163)

3

21% Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, alexa, Gira

tbh now im gonna wait until the EOD to vote for dolby just to be sassy

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:20 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:19 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:14 pm Mac's reasoning to townread falcon being bad is just wolf agenda. Like... yes my reasoning sucks but point it out, ignoring it and then pushing on Falcon just outs you and Dolby as the wolves.
so fmpov as town, am i supposed to uncritically sheep your townread on falcon even though the reasoning is obviously incorrect?
what is incorrect about the reasoning?

you said that falcon is town because he lacks a wolf agenda. falcon entered the game with a POE of fingersplints/me and has been pushing on it for the entire time that he's been alive while AFKing from the thread. even in a world where falcon is a villager, his pushes in this game explicitly align with a wolf agenda, which makes the reasoning of: "falcon lacks a wolf agenda" obviously flawed

the fact that you townread falcon is something that im naturally going to take into consideration, but im not going to reverse my game long scumread on the falcon slot because you said he "lacks a wolf agenda" when he has been explicitly pushing on two villagers for the entire game

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:19 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:15 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:14 pm Mac's reasoning to townread falcon being bad is just wolf agenda. Like... yes my reasoning sucks but point it out, ignoring it and then pushing on Falcon just outs you and Dolby as the wolves.
If your reasoning sucks why would someone sheep it?
cuz I'm mac, nobody has strong reads and it's just a townread anyway in a world where you can easily sheep it and vote somewhere else

not doing so is just pro wolf

please reference 3 posts ago where i said that i think dolby is the optimal chop today

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:15 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:14 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:13 pm [VOTE: spf] aubergine

I don't want her alive deeper into the game
do you have any reasons to scumread me or are you just scared of me being a deepwolf
I think the poe is solidly 3 slots right now.

Gira and Dolby are different.

You are the only solo hard poe.

cool, youre misreading someone and you should keep reading my posts until you figure out that im town

can you kindly let me know which pushes are Mac Approved™ and which pushes will make you wolfread me more? gotta make sure i toe the line

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:14 pm Mac's reasoning to townread falcon being bad is just wolf agenda. Like... yes my reasoning sucks but point it out, ignoring it and then pushing on Falcon just outs you and Dolby as the wolves.

so fmpov as town, am i supposed to uncritically sheep your townread on falcon even though the reasoning is obviously incorrect?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:13 pm [VOTE: spf] aubergine

I don't want her alive deeper into the game

do you have any reasons to scumread me or are you just scared of me being a deepwolf

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