The Syndicate

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:47 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:42 pm I targeted dunya last night with druid level 2

hot take

this is a reason to kill dunya

hotter take: this is why I've been so reluctant to chop her today. I want to know what was done.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:42 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:41 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:21 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:55 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:35 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:34 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:29 am
If they’re both v/v they’re picking LP 10 times out of 10

that's my way of saying I don't think they're both v

what's your take on them being v/w?

I think only possible if LP is the w

It's possible dunya is town if LP is a wolf, and in that world the dunya voters are trying to save LP by pushing dunya over which makes them more likely wolves.

if LP is town I think dunya is almost always a wolf. I still think it's possible, maybe even likely that they're both wolves. I do not think they're both town at all.

Once again, yes, TSP and I chose to attempt to yeet notoriously LHF player....Dunya. To defend a teammate, LP, who nobody townreads on her own merits and who doesn't seem to gaf about the game.

Come the fuck on.

straight up I think if dunya flips town min one wolf between you and tsp. I agree with Urist that Town Jack and Town TSP do not push Town Dunya like this. I think town Jack/TSP push wolf dunya like this for sure. Wolf Jack/TSP might push town dunya like this.

So yeeting Dunya solves the game. Let's fucking go.

for me LP is more independently wolfy but sure. if you're wrong I'm killing you tomorrow btw
[VOTE: dunya] aubergine

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:42 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:41 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:21 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:55 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:35 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:34 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:29 am
If they’re both v/v they’re picking LP 10 times out of 10

that's my way of saying I don't think they're both v

what's your take on them being v/w?

I think only possible if LP is the w

It's possible dunya is town if LP is a wolf, and in that world the dunya voters are trying to save LP by pushing dunya over which makes them more likely wolves.

if LP is town I think dunya is almost always a wolf. I still think it's possible, maybe even likely that they're both wolves. I do not think they're both town at all.

Once again, yes, TSP and I chose to attempt to yeet notoriously LHF player....Dunya. To defend a teammate, LP, who nobody townreads on her own merits and who doesn't seem to gaf about the game.

Come the fuck on.

straight up I think if dunya flips town min one wolf between you and tsp. I agree with Urist that Town Jack and Town TSP do not push Town Dunya like this. I think town Jack/TSP push wolf dunya like this for sure. Wolf Jack/TSP might push town dunya like this.

people can be wrong tbh

I'm basically calling that a meta read that jack/tsp have vastly more dunya experience than I do and that I do not think they get her wrong this vociferously.

I targeted dunya last night with druid level 2

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:21 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:55 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:35 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:34 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:29 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:27 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:21 am Saving Dunya

[VOTE: LinearPoint] aubergine

ngl I want to end the day tied between the two and make wolves make the choice
[VOTE: linearpoint] aubergine

If they’re both v/v they’re picking LP 10 times out of 10

that's my way of saying I don't think they're both v

what's your take on them being v/w?

I think only possible if LP is the w

It's possible dunya is town if LP is a wolf, and in that world the dunya voters are trying to save LP by pushing dunya over which makes them more likely wolves.

if LP is town I think dunya is almost always a wolf. I still think it's possible, maybe even likely that they're both wolves. I do not think they're both town at all.

Once again, yes, TSP and I chose to attempt to yeet notoriously LHF player....Dunya. To defend a teammate, LP, who nobody townreads on her own merits and who doesn't seem to gaf about the game.

Come the fuck on.

straight up I think if dunya flips town min one wolf between you and tsp. I agree with Urist that Town Jack and Town TSP do not push Town Dunya like this. I think town Jack/TSP push wolf dunya like this for sure. Wolf Jack/TSP might push town dunya like this.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:17 pm @Scotty @hollowkatt

Quit dipping your toes in and then running out of the pool like it's too freaking cold. Dunya's going today with or without you.

You both said it yourself. She needs to be resolved regardless of alignment and her flip helps solve the rest of the game.

Even if LP is a wolf, she could be a wolf with freaking anybody and the game doesn't advance at all.

If LP flips town I think it virtually guarantees dunya is a wolf. If LP flips wolf though dunya does not get resolved in the same way. Likewise if dunya flips wolf LP does not get resolved in the same way. Only somewhat does LP resolve if dunya flips town.
To the point where I think flipping LP gives as much, if not more, information as flipping dunya does.

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:58 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:55 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:35 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:34 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:29 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:27 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:21 am Saving Dunya

[VOTE: LinearPoint] aubergine

ngl I want to end the day tied between the two and make wolves make the choice
[VOTE: linearpoint] aubergine

If they’re both v/v they’re picking LP 10 times out of 10

that's my way of saying I don't think they're both v

what's your take on them being v/w?

I think only possible if LP is the w

It's possible dunya is town if LP is a wolf, and in that world the dunya voters are trying to save LP by pushing dunya over which makes them more likely wolves.

if LP is town I think dunya is almost always a wolf. I still think it's possible, maybe even likely that they're both wolves. I do not think they're both town at all.

eh if LP is town I'd probably look at the Dunya wagon and assume they're v/v tbh

Dunya's positioning surrounding here, Wilgy, and her EoD1 wagon (pending reread) might be enough for me

also I don't think her posting has been that bad

if LP is town and Dunya is town then I think Jack/TSP contains two wolves.

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:40 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:38 am ftr dunya flipped her lid at start of d2 after she got a few votes.

TSP and jack have been hard going for her since then. If dunya flips wolf, I contend that this was a hellbus ploy the whole time for cred

i agree with this. jack and tsp look bad for the dunya push regardless of her alignment.

I have the complete opposite take. If dunya flips wolf jack and tsp look far better than they currently do

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:35 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:34 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:29 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:27 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:21 am Saving Dunya

[VOTE: LinearPoint] aubergine

ngl I want to end the day tied between the two and make wolves make the choice
[VOTE: linearpoint] aubergine

If they’re both v/v they’re picking LP 10 times out of 10

that's my way of saying I don't think they're both v

what's your take on them being v/w?

I think only possible if LP is the w

It's possible dunya is town if LP is a wolf, and in that world the dunya voters are trying to save LP by pushing dunya over which makes them more likely wolves.

if LP is town I think dunya is almost always a wolf. I still think it's possible, maybe even likely that they're both wolves. I do not think they're both town at all.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:32 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:27 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:21 am Saving Dunya

[VOTE: LinearPoint] aubergine

ngl I want to end the day tied between the two and make wolves make the choice
[VOTE: linearpoint] aubergine

You never switched your vote to LP btw

lol thanks fixed it.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:29 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:27 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:21 am Saving Dunya

[VOTE: LinearPoint] aubergine

ngl I want to end the day tied between the two and make wolves make the choice
[VOTE: linearpoint] aubergine

If they’re both v/v they’re picking LP 10 times out of 10

that's my way of saying I don't think they're both v

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:24 am

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:23 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:21 am And Dunya absolutely positively uses ATE as scum while insisting it isn't ATE. It's arguably her go to wolf play. That she doesn't do that as scum is just a silly assertion.

i've asked for confirmation / evidence of this and nobody responded

The only wolf game I've seen from dunya in the last year or two was MtG Mafia, so that's the only one I could point you to to check out.

I don't recall if there was any AtE there.

no, just vicious pocketing in a neighborhood

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:22 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:21 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:15 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:13 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:10 am

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:01 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:44 am

ok, in your world do town jack and town tsp push town dunya as their preferred chop for today

nope

I feel like there's two groups forming here:
TSP/Jack/Urist

Dunya/Scotty/HK

and everyone else is revolving around those two and the question is which group has more wolves in it though I guess it's theoretically possibly in a dya/LP, X world that they're all town and the wolf team is just a weird group that aren't actually interacting all that much together.

if I continue to assume cfc is pure.

I agree with all of this except why is Urist associated with Jack/Tony?

tbh when I look at group 1 it's hard to not see it as a group that is grouped for going under the radar during d1

I had that feeling D1, I can probably dig it up if you're interested.

I don't think it's invalid but I also think that Jack going harder D2 should be recognized

yeah, should be recognized for sure.

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:21 am Saving Dunya

[VOTE: LinearPoint] aubergine

ngl I want to end the day tied between the two and make wolves make the choice
[VOTE: linearpoint] aubergine

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:21 am And Dunya absolutely positively uses ATE as scum while insisting it isn't ATE. It's arguably her go to wolf play. That she doesn't do that as scum is just a silly assertion.

sure but her AtE is the "makes you feel good" kind not the makes you feel bad kind so it's far less noticeable.

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:20 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:15 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:12 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:10 am

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:01 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:44 am

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:43 am hi good morning
i've realized that dunya is town sorry for the confusion

ok, in your world do town jack and town tsp push town dunya as their preferred chop for today

nope

I feel like there's two groups forming here:
TSP/Jack/Urist

Dunya/Scotty/HK

and everyone else is revolving around those two and the question is which group has more wolves in it though I guess it's theoretically possibly in a dya/LP, X world that they're all town and the wolf team is just a weird group that aren't actually interacting all that much together.

if I continue to assume cfc is pure.

group 1 contains 2 wolves max

I kinda think that group 2 only contains 1 wolf if it does but I think that there could be a 2nd wolf if we're getting fleeced, sure

while you're here...

Do you think it's possible that those 6 contain zero wolves, and if so can cfc still be pure? I think that's what I'm getting hung up on. If that group of 6 is pure and cfc is pure that would literally leave the entire wolf team contained in:

dya
marmot
naa
lp
sig
wigley

and I don't think I can make a cohesive wolf team out of that group.

I think that all 6 names do not contain 0 wolves and it is a function of Jack/TSP/Urist just not really feeling like it contains 0 wolves for me. I know that I just said that they're being grouped for ISP, but I don't really think they're pure? I look at Group 2 and I'm definetely fine with you town, less fine with Scotty town now but still TR him. Dunya can die, especially if LP w

If those 6 are pure it's either an all slanker team, or CFC is compromised

I might even go as far to say that if naa/lp/sig/wilgy only has one wolf and the 6 names are pure, CFC contains TWO wolves. Howeever, I do not actually believe in that world being real

In which case idk who to look at but it's not Syn

which is why I'm landing on resolve dunya today and deal with that fallout tomorrow.
If dunya = wolf then by extension scotty and myself look poorly. I think syn might as well.
LP probably looks a touch better but I'm not discounting w/w wagons at all here.

TSP/Jack look really good off of that. Urist less good.

You and Raskol are probably the same tbh. Dya looks marginally better I think.
Wigley probs spewed town in that instance though someone still probably murks him at night anyways just to be sure.

marmot also probably looks about the same.

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:15 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:13 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:10 am

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:01 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:44 am

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:43 am hi good morning
i've realized that dunya is town sorry for the confusion

ok, in your world do town jack and town tsp push town dunya as their preferred chop for today

nope

I feel like there's two groups forming here:
TSP/Jack/Urist

Dunya/Scotty/HK

and everyone else is revolving around those two and the question is which group has more wolves in it though I guess it's theoretically possibly in a dya/LP, X world that they're all town and the wolf team is just a weird group that aren't actually interacting all that much together.

if I continue to assume cfc is pure.

I agree with all of this except why is Urist associated with Jack/Tony?

tbh when I look at group 1 it's hard to not see it as a group that is grouped for going under the radar during d1

I had that feeling D1, I can probably dig it up if you're interested.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:14 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:10 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:09 am Per what hk and Urist have said, figuring out if dunya is a wolf or town will hopefully also shed some light on Jack and/or TSP.

explain wrt TSP specifically?

hollowkatt posted a thunk that I liked that said something like "do town TSP and town Jack push town dunya in this gamestate", and I think that is a definite no, so if dunia is town I think it means at least one of them is a wolf.


TSP and Jack are both excellent players (as either alignment) and have plenty of history with dunia, so both of them being town and wrong on this would be very hard to believe.


You could probably add Syn and myself to the list with Jack and TSP, but I don't think Syn nor I are nearly as capable as pushing town!dunya if we're wolves.

basically this yes. Which is why I said there's a line there between those groups. One of them has to be right I think because I don't think the game makes sense if all of them are town, unless again the team is exactly "weird"

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:13 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:10 am

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:01 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:44 am

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:43 am hi good morning
i've realized that dunya is town sorry for the confusion

ok, in your world do town jack and town tsp push town dunya as their preferred chop for today

nope

I feel like there's two groups forming here:
TSP/Jack/Urist

Dunya/Scotty/HK

and everyone else is revolving around those two and the question is which group has more wolves in it though I guess it's theoretically possibly in a dya/LP, X world that they're all town and the wolf team is just a weird group that aren't actually interacting all that much together.

if I continue to assume cfc is pure.

I agree with all of this except why is Urist associated with Jack/Tony?

I had a good reason but I don't remember what it was.

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:12 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:10 am

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:01 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:44 am

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:43 am hi good morning
i've realized that dunya is town sorry for the confusion

ok, in your world do town jack and town tsp push town dunya as their preferred chop for today

nope

I feel like there's two groups forming here:
TSP/Jack/Urist

Dunya/Scotty/HK

and everyone else is revolving around those two and the question is which group has more wolves in it though I guess it's theoretically possibly in a dya/LP, X world that they're all town and the wolf team is just a weird group that aren't actually interacting all that much together.

if I continue to assume cfc is pure.

group 1 contains 2 wolves max

I kinda think that group 2 only contains 1 wolf if it does but I think that there could be a 2nd wolf if we're getting fleeced, sure

while you're here...

Do you think it's possible that those 6 contain zero wolves, and if so can cfc still be pure? I think that's what I'm getting hung up on. If that group of 6 is pure and cfc is pure that would literally leave the entire wolf team contained in:

dya
marmot
naa
lp
sig
wigley

and I don't think I can make a cohesive wolf team out of that group.

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:01 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:44 am

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:43 am hi good morning
i've realized that dunya is town sorry for the confusion

ok, in your world do town jack and town tsp push town dunya as their preferred chop for today

nope

I feel like there's two groups forming here:
TSP/Jack/Urist

Dunya/Scotty/HK

and everyone else is revolving around those two and the question is which group has more wolves in it though I guess it's theoretically possibly in a dya/LP, X world that they're all town and the wolf team is just a weird group that aren't actually interacting all that much together.

if I continue to assume cfc is pure.

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:56 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:54 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:51 am A rainbow!
Jack
Tony
NAA
Syn
Marmot
Urist
Sig
Rask
Dolby
HK (this read has the potential to jump around alot)
Dya (as does this one)
Scotty
Dunia

Note how there is no light green, suggesting an uncanny amount of confidence in Jack's top 3 townreads and a large section of players he considers largely passive (at least when he's been online) in the yellow zone.

I kinda wanna swap dya and dolby on your list but otherwise that's an accurate representation of where I've come to be. Yes that means I've flipped my reads on dunya and scotty mostly b/c I don't think those two can be town if you and tsp are town and if that world does exist the wolf team is going to be like Syn, Dolby, Rask or something completely fucked up like that.

Weren't you hard townreading me

Also what happened to CFC gang?

I'm experimenting with worlds.

Like ok, my reads coming into irl this morning were like this:

townies:
syn
dolby
rask
dunya
NAA
scotty
HK
dya

nulls
wigley
marmot
sig

lean wolf
TSP
Jack
Urist

is wolf
LP

But reading Jacks posts this morning has gotten me thinking what if I'm wrong on Jack/TSP as wolf and it really is Dunya. Which kinda throws my reads into a turmoil b/c I don't think scotty can be town if dunya is not also town / jack and tsp aren't town with dunya/scotty.
I get to a weird cfc wolf container by thinking what if that group of 4 IS town which would force wolves into cfc, wigley, sig, dya, lp and I'm not confident enough to think in that universe I'd correctly say the entire wolf team is contained in sig, dya, lp, wigley

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:55 am HK will you marry me

no sorry. I swore off marriage in 2013

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:54 am But Jack! You didn't include Wilgy

or LP

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:51 am A rainbow!
Jack
Tony
NAA
Syn
Marmot
Urist
Sig
Rask
Dolby
HK (this read has the potential to jump around alot)
Dya (as does this one)
Scotty
Dunia

Note how there is no light green, suggesting an uncanny amount of confidence in Jack's top 3 townreads and a large section of players he considers largely passive (at least when he's been online) in the yellow zone.

I kinda wanna swap dya and dolby on your list but otherwise that's an accurate representation of where I've come to be. Yes that means I've flipped my reads on dunya and scotty mostly b/c I don't think those two can be town if you and tsp are town and if that world does exist the wolf team is going to be like Syn, Dolby, Rask or something completely fucked up like that.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:47 am Jack and hk, since you're both here, can I hear your reads on Rask?

Sure. I like him for town. He's playing in a way that is very familiar to me when he is town. His wolf games are a little more focused in terms of trying to accomplish things whereas here he's very much "I'm gonna say the things that pop into my head and idc really what people think of them"

He and I were a wolf hydra this past season and his play there was very much advancing an agenda and making targeted pushes. This isn't that Rask.

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:44 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:38 am

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:36 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:34 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:22 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:49 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:33 am w!dunia could pick someone besides scotty or lp for competing cases as a means of generating wifom

if she flips wolf, we'll spend future chops wasting them on scotty and lp because she advocated so heavily for their wagons to dissipate

i associate dunia's wolf game with a) an overarching agenda and b) strategic usage of AtE and camaraderie to receive personality-based town reads

b was present, but a was not

is the above significant enough to count as a?

a) is totes present in this game. A lot of Dunya's vote shifts have seemed agenday to me. Either to nudge things away from potential teammates (notably Scotty), towards potential misyeets (notably Wilgy) or just to change up the topic when things have settled down in a place that's bad for her (though tbf, there is motivation for that kind of switch as a townie). Like, the vote changes from Dunya don't feel like natural "I am a townie and I have seen a thing that causes me to change a read that causes me to change a vote" votes. They feel not like a good guy solving a puzzle but a bad guy making moves on a chessboard.

tbh I want to believe in this

I have something to say about this post, but not rn.

shame.

Actually I am prolly wrong so nvm ( I thought you were baiting again using Jacks post)

lol no, not baiting this time.

Where I'm at is either I'm super wrong on dunya or I'm super right and jack/tsp are super wrong. if I'm super wrong then dunya is a wolf and hooray. If I'm super right then it's very likely that Jack/TSP contains min one wolf which is also hooray b/c we have a really good place to start doing things.

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:43 am hi good morning
i've realized that dunya is town sorry for the confusion

ok, in your world do town jack and town tsp push town dunya as their preferred chop for today

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:36 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:34 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:22 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:49 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:33 am w!dunia could pick someone besides scotty or lp for competing cases as a means of generating wifom

if she flips wolf, we'll spend future chops wasting them on scotty and lp because she advocated so heavily for their wagons to dissipate

i associate dunia's wolf game with a) an overarching agenda and b) strategic usage of AtE and camaraderie to receive personality-based town reads

b was present, but a was not

is the above significant enough to count as a?

a) is totes present in this game. A lot of Dunya's vote shifts have seemed agenday to me. Either to nudge things away from potential teammates (notably Scotty), towards potential misyeets (notably Wilgy) or just to change up the topic when things have settled down in a place that's bad for her (though tbf, there is motivation for that kind of switch as a townie). Like, the vote changes from Dunya don't feel like natural "I am a townie and I have seen a thing that causes me to change a read that causes me to change a vote" votes. They feel not like a good guy solving a puzzle but a bad guy making moves on a chessboard.

tbh I want to believe in this

I have something to say about this post, but not rn.

shame.

fuck it, lets kill dunya
flipping dunya wolf makes jack look pretty good and I think that's a good thing. [VOTE: dunya] aubergine

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:22 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:49 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:33 am w!dunia could pick someone besides scotty or lp for competing cases as a means of generating wifom

if she flips wolf, we'll spend future chops wasting them on scotty and lp because she advocated so heavily for their wagons to dissipate

i associate dunia's wolf game with a) an overarching agenda and b) strategic usage of AtE and camaraderie to receive personality-based town reads

b was present, but a was not

is the above significant enough to count as a?

a) is totes present in this game. A lot of Dunya's vote shifts have seemed agenday to me. Either to nudge things away from potential teammates (notably Scotty), towards potential misyeets (notably Wilgy) or just to change up the topic when things have settled down in a place that's bad for her (though tbf, there is motivation for that kind of switch as a townie). Like, the vote changes from Dunya don't feel like natural "I am a townie and I have seen a thing that causes me to change a read that causes me to change a vote" votes. They feel not like a good guy solving a puzzle but a bad guy making moves on a chessboard.

tbh I want to believe in this

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:58 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:23 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:32 pm Nobody needs to put points to druid.

I'm a level 3 druid

It's my opinion that the warrior powers are strictly better than the druid powers and while they're also better than the paladin powers, the paladin powers at least act as counters to the warrior powers. Like I would rarely choose a watch over a vigilante kill, even though I think watch is probably the second strongest power in the game after the vigilante kill. And I think track is just relatively weak, especially in a game where everybody has night actions (some of which don't do a lot and thus aren't provably) so you're going to stumble into false positives/negatives. Like tracker is strongest the closer you get to mountainous. Anyway.

I grabbed it because I mathed out that you could hit level 2 super fast, which tells you what actions were used on your target. Then you can grab either warrior 1 or paladin 1 with your next CP. I thought being able to confirm claims was worth spending points on.

what's up good doctor?

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:29 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:26 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:23 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:32 pm That was a good post from Scotty

Why? It’s just mechanical talk. That shit is generally NAI.

Feels like scotty was thinking about "how can this fuck town" moreso than "how can I fuck town with this". I dunno, it's a feeling I have

wolves on TS are fans of mech talk tbh

I know, I've been one several times. This feels different

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:23 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:32 pm That was a good post from Scotty

Why? It’s just mechanical talk. That shit is generally NAI.

Feels like scotty was thinking about "how can this fuck town" moreso than "how can I fuck town with this". I dunno, it's a feeling I have

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:52 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:34 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:34 pmHK might be a wolf

was this a good post?

One of your best tbh

I'm sad you didn't say anything back

or will be anyways if I don't die today b/c I'll level up again

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:32 pm Nobody needs to put points to druid.

I'm a level 3 druid

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:34 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:34 pmHK might be a wolf

was this a good post?

One of your best tbh

That was a good post from Scotty

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:18 pm Starscream was always my favorite. Loved how his personality was "I stab Megatron in the back and I'm not shy about it."

I've been on a spree lately picking up all the ones I wanted as a kid but never got. Today my OG Dinobots arrived.
I grabbed the reissues of the OG Seekers (Starscream, Thundercracker, and Skywarp) a few weeks ago.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:59 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:58 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:57 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:56 pm I just had a "How many shots would it take for me to get with Soundwave" come across my tiktok page and now I'm terrified of what corner of hell I've stumbled across.

Soundwave the transformer?

Yes

I'm under the impression that Soundwave is ace so probably like you'd never pull it off but idk maybe I'm just not his type.

Yeah, Ace probs accurate. Is also a great father to all his little tape children.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:57 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:56 pm I just had a "How many shots would it take for me to get with Soundwave" come across my tiktok page and now I'm terrified of what corner of hell I've stumbled across.

Soundwave the transformer?

Yes

oh it was a shitpost, my bad

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:31 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:23 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:21 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:18 pm How many people are going to angleshoot dumbtell the game mechanics?

reading and understanding op is NAI imo.

i understood zero of magic the gathering mechanics and i was wolf.

I keep thinking “hmm I don’t remember Dunya being a wolf in that game”

Look, I already have PTSDunya. Don't make me add TSPTSD ok

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:42 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:40 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:36 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:28 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:26 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:47 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:45 pm I wish we could go back to yeeting Scotty.

I'd really rather not.
If I had my druthers I'd protect you and scotty today and try to push over LP, Jack, or TSP tbh

But TSP and I are rlly townie so why would you do that?

cause neither of you are rlly townie

the biggest thing I remember TSP for is calling you town and then not saying why other than "because he is". The biggest thing I remember you for is pushing dya in a way that doesn't allow for counterarguments because you've said you're waiting for dya to do something, and then also saying "it's not really a wolf read it's a "do something read""

neither of which fill me with the utmost confidence that you're town.

Have you read me and TSP’s posts?

I have read many posts, some of which are yours and TSPs.
I had something where I complained about TSPTSD earlier, lemme go dig that up

I just had a "How many shots would it take for me to get with Soundwave" come across my tiktok page and now I'm terrified of what corner of hell I've stumbled across.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:36 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:28 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:26 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:47 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:45 pm I wish we could go back to yeeting Scotty.

I'd really rather not.
If I had my druthers I'd protect you and scotty today and try to push over LP, Jack, or TSP tbh

But TSP and I are rlly townie so why would you do that?

cause neither of you are rlly townie

the biggest thing I remember TSP for is calling you town and then not saying why other than "because he is". The biggest thing I remember you for is pushing dya in a way that doesn't allow for counterarguments because you've said you're waiting for dya to do something, and then also saying "it's not really a wolf read it's a "do something read""

neither of which fill me with the utmost confidence that you're town.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:33 pm I mean that’s like three of the four things you can town case someone on

kinda my point yes.

can anyone give me a town case on LP that isn't predicated on threadstate/vote counts/or positioning? because those are the only defenses I've read

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:26 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:47 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:45 pm I wish we could go back to yeeting Scotty.

I'd really rather not.
If I had my druthers I'd protect you and scotty today and try to push over LP, Jack, or TSP tbh

But TSP and I are rlly townie so why would you do that?

cause neither of you are rlly townie