The Syndicate

i also have a pet theory that the only way he could've gotten to psv as a "locked villa" alongside kate on D2 is by seeing seanzie's push there and having the TMI that he spewed her with his treatment, but nobody else had psv as a villager with that level of confidence

i know it's wolfy of me to say this given i've pushed psv all game, but i've re-read and can easily see how someone might think psv is a villa off seanzie.

having 2 confirmed villas is unusual of six (unless i'm wrong? i don't think i've ever seen him declare a villa read with such confidence) especially when one of them nobody was viewing as a locked villa. also dropping 7 villas is unusual behavior too, yes?

this is primarily directed to kate, i assume she played all the games he was in

also the "villa reads are so much easier to get than wolfreads" is also a wolf angle, obviously

new players tend to be paranoid of a lot of things and have troubles reaching villa reads like that ime. but as a wolf with the answers, of course it's easy

i guess i was expecting to see him build up to some of his reads at least

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 2:22 pm it ....could be sixstrings. one thing that does make me worried about him is actually just how consensus-y/"agreeable" his reads were when he checked into the thread, even though he is clearly absent. i would expect a villager who is struggling to play or keep up with the game to not have many confident reads, but sixstrings had a readslist that was almost entirely in agreement with the consensus, which could indicate that he was being fed information by this team - this is the exact tell that i used to catch beggbow wayyy back in season 7 game 6

this is a wordier angle of my thoughts also

being lost / scattered and then dropping a list with 7 villas and a wolf

idk, it feels like his posting is perceptive about the thread but the things he's choosing to pick on are the problem. he could hunt, but instead with the thread awareness he had, he chose to focus on explaining why he's not doing much or whatever, instead of helping or hunting, asking questions

just feels like his approach is calculated to me, hope that previous explanation makes some sense

i was talking about six, my bad

or maybe he did rand a wolf? and participated more?

but your wording made it sound like you were making an assumption

Kate wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 12:58 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 12:40 pm up to EoD1 and feeling like i wanna lunch six the most

it's impressive to me how he's mentioned being new so many times (i had no recollection he actually said it at D1 close to EoD also, and the timing of it was crude too, he had 2 votes on him i believe and the top wagon maybe had 2-3) even tho he's done this before. him keeping on bringing it up just smells like a wolf excusing himself. new wolf players love to do that and as a villa randing the third time, he should've accumulated some knowledge and pursue new avenues, solving more, but instead he repeats the fact he's new before he outs any reads. all this excusing must mean he has some awareness of the thread, but instead of commentating on the important things, he picks the self-defence angle.

and idt he's clearable from voting falcon, it's pretty much the only avenue that team can take and have ~any sort of a fighting chance

nobody else feels like a wolf that's posting itt up to EoD1 to me (didn't get to the seanzie flashwagon but yah). maybe dennis? but for some reason it feels wrong
Dennis is civ. I'm fairly positive. I don't believe six is bad either, but further if he had 2 experienced partners like falcon and seanzie he would have done a better job playing.

how can you be so certain of that if he's never randed a wolf?

and afaict his villa play is to start slow as well, on surface level there isn't ~too much of a difference in activity of posting and number of posts, am i wrong?

up to EoD1 and feeling like i wanna lunch six the most

it's impressive to me how he's mentioned being new so many times (i had no recollection he actually said it at D1 close to EoD also, and the timing of it was crude too, he had 2 votes on him i believe and the top wagon maybe had 2-3) even tho he's done this before. him keeping on bringing it up just smells like a wolf excusing himself. new wolf players love to do that and as a villa randing the third time, he should've accumulated some knowledge and pursue new avenues, solving more, but instead he repeats the fact he's new before he outs any reads. all this excusing must mean he has some awareness of the thread, but instead of commentating on the important things, he picks the self-defence angle.

and idt he's clearable from voting falcon, it's pretty much the only avenue that team can take and have ~any sort of a fighting chance

nobody else feels like a wolf that's posting itt up to EoD1 to me (didn't get to the seanzie flashwagon but yah). maybe dennis? but for some reason it feels wrong

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:09 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:04 pm [VOTE: dennis ] aubergine

his interactions seem to me to be designed with ulterior motives in mind

let me know if he’s just generally super friendly tho. still feel like the way he’s going about it to influence somehow rather than just doing it for the sake of being friendly
Dennis is just Dennis thus far IMO. Nothing he's done yet is AI

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 9:14 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:04 pm [VOTE: dennis ] aubergine

his interactions seem to me to be designed with ulterior motives in mind

let me know if he’s just generally super friendly tho. still feel like the way he’s going about it to influence somehow rather than just doing it for the sake of being friendly
Which interactions in particular are you talking about?

Dennis is friendly, but idk if I would say "super friendly".

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:21 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 6:17 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 9:14 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:04 pm [VOTE: dennis ] aubergine

his interactions seem to me to be designed with ulterior motives in mind

let me know if he’s just generally super friendly tho. still feel like the way he’s going about it to influence somehow rather than just doing it for the sake of being friendly
Which interactions in particular are you talking about?

Dennis is friendly, but idk if I would say "super friendly".

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 2:55 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:45 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:43 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:41 pm fwiw i feel like giving reads rn would be a LEAK due to 2 non posters

but i’ll add a wolfy remark of i kinda like where things are headed and have noticed nothing that i was going “huh wat” in my head to

a bit of a thing i spotted was alice stating a rand v read on seanzie and then making a post to spf saying she shouldn’t give him an easy villa pass, gth it feels bad but if i’m thinking about it, i don’t see what point it accomplishes as a wolf. might be a villagery progression
What do you mean by you like where things are headed?
I don’t disagree with any reads stated etc is what i meant, tho i didn’t read with too much caution

i’m a very lazy d1 player. and this isn’t even d1 yet tbh
This guy gets me
this one is probably the most relevant one

just felt like a combination of chumminess while also potentially establishing the fact that he will lay it low in the beginning by using me as a propeller for it, indirectly. (associating his play with that of a villager)

rather than just stating it out loud that he won't be solving early, or just completely saying nothing about it and just say it if he gets prodded with it

has a hint of getting ahead of the curve to me a bit
This doesn't really move my Dennis needle at all.

they both sorta softly defended dennis fwiw, i don't know what it means yet, just pointing it out

im doing some re-reading. sorry for grilling you 24/7.

i think re-reading has made me a bit more lenient to drop my wolf read on you, but until i debunk like 80% of the posts i was pinged by, i can't drop it fully. just the way i be

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 6:12 pm Neon saying they didn't feel okay when others said they had.

@potentialsheltervet i re-read post by post from page 1 up to this post, and i haven't seen anybody mention your replies being okay, other than sean

who did you have in mind here?

Kate wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 6:30 pm I think everyone that was on falcon today is town.

I’ve considered that, but mostly cuz it’d be elite for the family to gang up as villas on the wolf

As for your other question, maybe i should be reading more since my knowledge of neon / pyxxy’s posts is low

spf / you / lemon are prob lock villas to me

sig’s posts today were really good imo (for him)

these are the ones i’d be shocked to be wolves

sig wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 6:03 pm PSV or Dennis is the last mafia member

maybe

nothing else seems to fit

could it just be six that's bussing? there's p much no other way they'd be winning the game by powerwolfing if it's that team

for some reason i keep getting pulled by gravity into a pit of shame and guilt for saying psv is a wolf outloud

i feel like psv's best posts were the rule of 3 one and chiming into the me / falcon being w/w or not post where she angled to the latter

idk, if it's not her, then wh000

i mean if i had to put it to a PoE

it'd have to be pyxxy / psv / neon? i'm not sure i'm buying the dennis angle even tho he placed that vote. that seems to be the only conceivable reason for why he could be a wolf and i don't view it as much when he's got good t0an

where pyxxy and neon are there cuz i don't have them on the same pedestal of villageriness to the other people.

lemon pushing kate and having tinfoils team is pretty likely a villager + the wtf post after seanzie's flip. spf voted sean. kate is lock cleared.

i liked sig's posts today, quite a lot.

dennis i explained

i guess six is not out of the race but at least i can see him being a villa.

not sure who's left

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 5:14 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 5:11 pm
Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 5:10 pm that doesn't seem right hold on
seems perfectly fine to me
falcon was sheeping Neon to vote PSV D1
and voted PSV again at SOD2

although ig falcon did move to you later

idk, im not gonna claim to have read the entire game

but i'd say ~everyone is a lot villagerier in my eyes than psv and there's just so many off things about psv that seem wolfy to me

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 5:10 pm that doesn't seem right hold on

seems perfectly fine to me

is this the part where i mention psv being a non-entity for the past a lot of hours when wolves got crushed b2b?

Kate wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 5:03 pm Oh thank God. I read the last line and thought six string was lynched.

Spf you made me so frigging nervous.

i was reading along and was ~pretty convinced he was a wolf

good job on pushing him and likely enjoy your trip to dvc

nice that's nice

worthy of an insanity gif

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 4:51 pm i think falcon has a roughly 60% chance of being mafia

that's a lot more than rand

Neon wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 3:43 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 3:40 pm is eod in 20 mins?
Pretty sure it's an hour

thanks, well the lunch seems to be set

in case the obvious needs to be said, sig's posts are villagery

is eod in 20 mins?

think im comfortable sitting on falcon

don’t really like six’s re-entrance upon reading his other game, but with so little content i’m fine with giving him more time before i decide

in this game he feels more calculated and the way in which he talked about being new feels to me like he’s using it as an excuse and it didn’t come naturally

there were plenty things to point out / talk about, including a wolf death (which he did notice in his other game), but instead he opens up his re-entrance post with why we shouldn’t be voting him (or at least that’s what it feels like to me)

sup six

why am i a wolf

Kate wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 7:41 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 7:08 pm Well, at least he’s more active ever since there is a proven chance he’s gonna die

Is that AI for him?
Soft defense noted.

it’s funny to me that you interpret all of my posts the other way lol

i’ve meant to shade him for it, not defend. im voting him after all :P

Nah, which is why i’m voting him over you

Pressure to see what he does + alice nk and can see the appeal of him being a wolf off meta.

I kinda think if you’re a wolf then the other is six pretty much ~all of the time tho. It would fit like a glove

not to the same degree of confidence after your explanation on the seanzie / neon thing, but deep down yeah

but i can see the angle of you being a villager too. ik you think im a tunneler but im really not, i consider all angles at all times, it’s usually why i don’t go out of my way to post that many thoughts on a single player

Deflection from wat?

You caught me, I guess

oh wow

How in the world do you have 29 posts

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 7:09 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 7:09 pm I haven’t and i probably won’t
Assuming you're replying to me, then why did you ask for them?

I haven’t, i’ve just asked for the syndicate game

What i’ve asked for was your reasons for your legitimate concerns on six / sig and falcon at the time you’ve made that post

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 7:09 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 7:08 pm Well, at least he’s more active ever since there is a proven chance he’s gonna die

Is that AI for him?
Wut

Falcon

There is pressure on him, he’s making more posts now

I haven’t and i probably won’t

Well, at least he’s more active ever since there is a proven chance he’s gonna die

Is that AI for him?

rofl

i guess he balanced it out xD

elaborating on meta is fine with me, since my recollection was that whenever he got shrug lunched in a game with me, he was wolf both the times

how do you view his meta now?

can you give a few reasons?

[VOTE: falcon ] aubergine

i think a lot of people here played with her

spf / myself / lemon / neon / probably more

Does falcon still have that meta where if he doesn’t do anything he’s a wolf and if he puts in some effort he’s a villa?

Might just vote him if that’s the case, but i’m not sure

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:30 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 5:27 pm Psv, why have you mentioned nothing about seanzie being wagonned at EoD?
What to say?

Idk, you were posting as if you didn’t care for EoD and he was a villa read to you on last check

I don’t mean it to come across as a “gotcha” cuz i have some villa reads that i don’t care to see die

I was just curious as to what your thoughts were as EoD unfolded

Psv, why have you mentioned nothing about seanzie being wagonned at EoD?

momma kate, read on son dennis?

Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 4:13 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 3:37 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 6:12 pm I think of the people who have interacted with me, I feel best about Seanzie and Neon, since both are sticking to their guns in spite of thread flow-- Seanzie in saying my responses felt okay when others said they didn't, Neon saying they didn't feel okay when others said they had.
this, is what you said
My biggest concern with it, is that seanzie was voting for me. And he didn't even give a fake reason for it, so I'm not sure how he could be sticking to his guns in that instance.

reading back, his only response about psv was that he thinks her reaction is fine. literally one post on it

he even clarified (i think after psv's post on villa reading neon and seanzie) that he wasn't villa reading her

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 4:00 pm I also felt like his post to Camilla about her potentially being the NK feels forced/performative rather than genuine.

could be!

i took it more as a "what wolf would post that type of thing" cuz i'd feel awkward making that kill now if i do post that, but who knows

it's not really high, it's more that there are a lot of null posters who idk how to sort

dennis' early response to me was good imo and then when he started talking about you we just mindmelded hard. guess he could've pocketed me but i think his accusation was fine. the only concerning thing is his seanzie progression but idt it's too wolfy barring his explanation

pyxxy could arguably be lowered, if im being honest she's just there cuz she posted a big ass wall to camilla when she called her out and thought it was villagery lol, i know it's bad but just slapped it there lmfao. didn't even read it

i think the strength of how it comes across is not the reality. the only really strong leans are the top 5, dennis and pyxxy are heaps lower than those other reads

i posted a list

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 3:40 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 3:37 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 6:12 pm I think of the people who have interacted with me, I feel best about Seanzie and Neon, since both are sticking to their guns in spite of thread flow-- Seanzie in saying my responses felt okay when others said they didn't, Neon saying they didn't feel okay when others said they had.
this, is what you said
Yes, and both are reflective of threadstate at the time they were said. Because the opinions were voiced at different points in time. Seanzie said I was v when most people were sussing me, Zenon continued sussing me past the expiration date of when that was favorable.
Statement stands and still not how you're painting it.

alright, this does make sense to me

yea

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 11:35 am There's a really good chance I will forget to vote if I don't vote now tbh so
[VOTE: Tex ] aubergine
Because I think their content has been pretty lacking and go with the flow, along with the handwavey excuse of being a bad D1 player. Feels like trying to fly under the radar.

i was among the people who've posted the most amount of content, even tho i had low posts. "feels like trying to fly under the radar" when having that in mind is a big question mark

another thing is i've never said i was a bad d1 player, just that i was lazy, and despite that i posted a lot of thoughts, arguably more than 60% of the game.

this accusation is shallow for 4 hours til elimination and bad faith as it misrepresents my actions and what i've said in posts

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