The Syndicate

Anybody wanna talk to me about siggie?

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 4:45 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 4:43 pm I’ll just say sig is mafia with space so jay doesn’t send me to the gallows

the problem is more what you said about me

but also all the "who"s

the point is to take a stance one way or the other

I’m sorry I am often times easily pocketed and you happened to tell me how much sense I’m making and all that

I’ll just say sig is mafia with space so jay doesn’t send me to the gallows

Ok then those reads remain as mentioned

Oh wait are there 4 mafia this game

Yeah yeah I’m sorting the who sometime

I keep mixing up posts from Myo with Jiwon is it just me

I feel like they’re playing in a hydra but from separate accounts

ColinIsCool / JaggedJimmyJay - town
JiwonMeganPark - who
Long Con - who
MacDougall - town
motobot - who
Myo - who
nutella - being careful here
sig - who
Sloonei - town
Soneji - town
Spacedaisy - scum
tedxtr - lack claire town

We’re always lynching Space today, no EoD shenanigans por favor amigos

nutella wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 12:16 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 9:50 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 7:31 am @tedxtr you asked me about Soneji and I answered at the bottom of the previous page. Talk to me about that immediately or die.

If it's the big Jack - Soneji thing I can't say I'm really inspired by it.

I thought the way he focused on sig last EoD was actually not posturing for a cfd there but merely attempting to discern his alignment. He didn't have the survival instinct of pulling something out of his ass in order to make sig gain more steam.

I am not aware of what the wagons were but if sig wasn't a top contender then soneji not even saying anything about LC in order to vote him in favour of his buddy looks good enough to me.

He looked relaxed at EoD if you ask me.

I don't think this really means anything. There was no sig wagon at EOD. It's a non-factor. I don't recall anything about whether or how Soneji responded to the quick LC wagon and the cfd onto Jack. I don't know how he felt about anything at EOD. If he was around, I have no recollection of him being around, and he certainly didn't influence anything relevant. That's a problem.

I wasn't there at EoD but looking through his posts before EoD, it didn't look like he had any scum agenda / knew that Jack would flip scum

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 7:31 am @tedxtr you asked me about Soneji and I answered at the bottom of the previous page. Talk to me about that immediately or die.

If it's the big Jack - Soneji thing I can't say I'm really inspired by it.

I thought the way he focused on sig last EoD was actually not posturing for a cfd there but merely attempting to discern his alignment. He didn't have the survival instinct of pulling something out of his ass in order to make sig gain more steam.

I am not aware of what the wagons were but if sig wasn't a top contender then soneji not even saying anything about LC in order to vote him in favour of his buddy looks good enough to me.

He looked relaxed at EoD if you ask me.

Jay is feigning investment

nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 30, 2020 4:27 pm Yeah those are good takes ted. I would love to see more thoughts/reads from daisy on people other than soneji.

I’m easily pocketable and now I’m paranoid.

She came in with the “hello fellow villagers, what’s up with this person’s wagon that is the counter wagon to the flipped mafia and how can i get on it?” post. If she doesn’t contribute further than that, I just can’t overlook it. Sorry.

I feel kind of bad for contributing with taking Space out of the game but if she’s not going to generate any more content than Soneji still being scum, I’ll treat it as preserving spew.

Unless people can weigh in and tell me if Space usually has a hard time making reads. I remember her coming back from a hiatus, ime players are generally hyped to rand town after that, I don’t really get the...defeatist mentality here.

I felt like Soneji’s EoD was fine with jack’s flip in mind

What’s your gripe with him, Jay?

I don;t think I'm looking at Sloonei because there's a lot of other slots to look into but damn does he give off a sinking feeling. It's not even scum indicative I think but it does mess up with my perception of his usual town meta a lot.

I did like his nutella and Mac trio convo right before voting Jack. He seemed very relaxed and I don't think his mafia self would waste time kidding with mac and nutella when his partner is being heavily pressured.

it's hard to really pinpoint it

it's just, his heart isn't really into it, a lot of his moves seem surface level and the majority of his votes / thoughts emerge from something happening at the point where he's in thread

I know he made some analysis but I'm not feeling his votes at all, it's really hard to express it, my thoughts are usually very convoluted.

I think he's off but I'm not sure it's really AI though. It might be he's worn out or something irl.

I'll give it to Jay, sloonei's feeling waaaaaaaaay off

I think it makes more sense for newbie type of players to reach on that, with the assumption of "he said he was going to town hunt but he's keeping his lynch pool opened by scum hunting instead" sort of deal.

I refuse to believe a scum actually fell for that lol.

I don't think Jiwon's cutting it for me to be honest. I can see town focusing more on that statement than scum, I think scum think it's just pointless to even address it, it's such low hanging fruit bait.

Jiwon's assessment from early game fits with how she plays the game but I do agree it's kind of lame I'm her only read.

With that being said, I hate to state that she's probably town regardless.

sig / myo / LC is PoE I guess? Debating on jiwon.

Didn't read all of soneji's posts

yeah that's about it

[VOTE: Spacedaisy ] aubergine

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 9:52 pm Good lord, four pages at the eod? I’m going with my gut based on my earlier reads. What’s the story with the LC wagon? Did I miss something or is it in these last four pages?

I can see why Space is a hot topic

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:40 pm MacDougall - Scum

Only 1 player out of a 14 player pool? (13 without you, I guess)

Jiwon, where are you at? Reads-wise.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 3:21 pm That’s why scrap should be spread between Mac/nutella/myself


Not ted.

Not like I'm gonna get killed when I'm barely trying, and I also am fairly townie. Not sure I follow.

It would be funny if both Soneji and jiwon flip mafia and I railed both of them by commenting on that post of mine lmao

Looks like we're back at the stage where I wait being PoE'd again and then I try hard if we can't find mafia, etc etc

Coolio

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 8:11 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 7:58 pm
Day 3 lynch: If we haven't hit fur at this point lynch Sloonei without thinking twice.

:fry narrowed eyes emoji:

why

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 7:51 pm tedxtr - Inno child. Wouldn't lynch yet.

btw, game theory wise, soneji - sig still makes sense with Jack as a third, because if it goes to shit, you can rely on him to carry.

Sooooo...

Lmfaoooooooooooo

Mac spewed town, never doubted him

I give up, you get the point.

I will add that there probably is a world where I'm pushing the gas pedal on sig if Soneji flips mafia. His progression on sig is the one of a typical w/w interaction.

He stated something about sig, just so he keeps up the appearance of an actual progression to the read, when in reality, the fuel comes only at a specific post that looks sort of bad for sig, so it looks good for anti-spew, etc etc.

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Soneji wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 7:12 am This is a bit much for d0, especially given it's very negative overall. One town read to two seeming scumreads(Sloonei, Nanook), as well as two other people you're giving meme justification for wanting to lynch.

This is not really saying anything, the way he's going about it is in a kind of casual way. He's not really pushing the idea of him being scum off his reads list, it has a...lifeless (?) ring to it. He's not doing anything with this. Like, are you calling him scum for it? Are you preparing for a push on him based off this? (He actually did, as he voted him in the same post). He's not really pressing him further down on that readslist. It's not coming from a place of trying to understand why he'd make those reads so early, it's like...Meh. "This is my concern with you even though I didn't even call you scum before this". For post-game cred, I think this is exactly a scum telling his scum partner why his reads list is bad, going from the premise that he is scum, and sig knows he's scum...Soneji also knows he's scum. Which is why this lacks any fuel.

Soneji wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 7:12 am Nutella isn't here though, so would Jack call this salad?

Asking questions for the sake of asking questions.

Soneji wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 7:12 am Would have been more convincing without including policy lynch reasoning and spite.

Ok? Blanket statement, not really going into whether Mac is a scum or a town pushing that read, blah blah.

Soneji wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 7:12 am Quick to go scumhunting after talks of town hunting.

This is what bothered me lmao. This is such a bad thing to even throw shade about. Do you honestly believe that I wouldn't try to find scum at all, especially if I stated I don't get major town reads?

I said I will focus primarily on town hunting, yes, but by doing that, you can see a lack of a town mindset. Also, I did mention that if I find a scum lean on the line, I'll let you know.

It is just...such a bad line of shading to take for a villager here, like, really? Shading me for scum hunting when this game is revolved around lynching scum?

I don't believe that him, as a villager, would actually think that's worthy of lining out.

sig wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 11:58 am That town hunt not going well then...do you feel that more posts have been neutral or scummy since you don't get the feel of any villager posts?

He even found the explanation for why I started scum hunting lol.

Also think that it's hard to act like this, I don't think it's a villager mindset. He started by shading me, which usually happens when you have laid your eyes upon someone, but instead of progressing with that mentality, this is taking a step back, actually. The way he goes about it is also like he is trying to back track on his previous shade of me.

I don't think this is a villager progression on me.

wow that looks like crap.

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Soneji wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 7:12 am This is a bit much for d0, especially given it's very negative overall. One town read to two seeming scumreads(Sloonei, Nanook), as well as two other people you're giving meme justification for wanting to lynch.

This is not really saying anything, the way he's going about it is in a kind of casual way. He's not really pushing the idea of him being scum off his reads list, it has a...lifeless (?) ring to it. He's not doing anything with this. Like, are you calling him scum for it? Are you preparing for a push on him based off this? (He actually did, as he voted him in the same post). He's not really pressing him further down on that readslist. It's not coming from a place of trying to understand why he'd make those reads so early, it's like...Meh. "This is my concern with you even though I didn't even call you scum before this". For post-game cred, I think this is exactly a scum telling his scum partner why his reads list is bad, going from the premise that he is scum, and sig knows he's scum...Soneji also knows he's scum. Which is why this lacks any fuel.

Soneji wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 7:12 am Nutella isn't here though, so would Jack call this salad?

Asking questions for the sake of asking questions.

Soneji wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 7:12 am Would have been more convincing without including policy lynch reasoning and spite.

Ok? Blanket statement, not really going into whether Mac is a scum or a town pushing that read, blah blah.

Soneji wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 7:12 am Quick to go scumhunting after talks of town hunting.

This is what bothered me lmao. This is such a bad thing to even throw shade about. Do you honestly believe that I wouldn't try to find scum at all, especially if I stated I don't get major town reads?

I said I will focus primarily on town hunting, yes, but by doing that, you can see a lack of a town mindset. Also, I did mention that if I find a scum lean on the line, I'll let you know.

It is just...such a bad line of shading to take for a villager here, like, really? Shading me for scum hunting when this game is revolved around lynching scum?

I don't believe that him, as a villager, would actually think that's worthy of lining out.

sig wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 11:58 am That town hunt not going well then...do you feel that more posts have been neutral or scummy since you don't get the feel of any villager posts?

He even found the explanation for why I started scum hunting lol.

Also think that it's hard to act like this, I don't think it's a villager mindset. He started by shading me, which usually happens when you have laid your eyes upon someone, but instead of progressing with that mentality, this is taking a step back, actually. The way he goes about it is also like he is trying to back track on his previous shade of me.

I don't think this is a villager progression on me.

Soneji wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 7:12 am This is a pretty bs assessment of someone asking for clarification on people's reasoning behind vague posts/reads.

He went on sig from a 0 to 100 real quick. Doesn't feel right to me.

I won't be here at EoD so if you have any questions, etc etc, should ask me right now

TR = town read

[VOTE: Soneji ] aubergine

yeet

Sloonei I'm not dying on D1, you're better off voting an inactive lmao

I feel better about Mac after that post lol

Lame

From the bad reads department, I don't think sig makes such a bad post as a wolf.

Or bad postS

I remember him having a thing for randing wolf.

Vote Mac and see what happens /shrug

I think she has very good tone and is going at her own pace. Randing scum for the first time on a site with strangers (fmpov) kind of hinders your ability as a scum and you'll be a tad bit more self-aware because you don't have any idea of what is perceived as town indicators, etc etc.

Most of it is just her tone, I tend to drop the tone reads if the content doesn't get better, but for now it feels okay.

Why is she being pure??

I think there's a bunch of NAI content and Myo is the easiest read. She's being pure.

I think it's too wolfy to be a wolf but they seem like posts that wolves make anyway.

I have a bad habit of scum reading posts that I can't understand.

This wasn't really scum reading Jack but it just felt like...what did I just read

and it felt this way for a few pages now

I feel like there's no villager posts, I think Myo is maybe slightly >rand to be a villager.