The Syndicate

i take dibs on ":shrug:"

What toes

People pushing a sig v mac narrative are deflecting from the real scum wagon that ought to be lynched is g-man

The deep wolf that’s not even a deep wolf

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:12 am Also G-Man is the fool's wagon imo. It's gonna be Mac vs Sig.

Bite your tongue right now

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:11 am This is amazing in the worst way you guys. I've nailed scum on both teams and just have to pick which one we lynch first. Tony gimme some power analysis or something

Hey don’t steal my credit

Th claiming credit for Radishes feels sooooo fake

By day one i meant night 0

Someone asked me why i said nutella felt off tonally

Read her early day one and read how she’s playing rn, she lacks the heat idk the nutella spice

I actually don’t care right now for that get G-Man

Vote G-Mannnnnnn i’m on a roooooooollllllllll

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:24 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:22 am I’m fucking goat
Look man, I don't judge. To each his own.

Yes we’re really happy together

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:25 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:20 am I have major deadlines to honor, and there's no way I'm going to be able to keep up with this right now. I'm going to extract myself for the time being and just pop in for a look when I can. I think things are going swimmingly, so y'all carry on. If you want my take on something, @ me and ideally link me to something. I will try to get to it. Otherwise I will observe for myself.
I compared our results and we both said sig looks like a compatible Radishes teammate. Gimme a quick take on that.

To be fair, in hindsight, I suppose he could’ve faked that derp thing if he knew Radishes was wolf and was just looking for fake associations

3 for 3 deal? Hmmmm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:58 pm Newcomers will be converted to syndicate emoji superiority in due time.

I like this one

:sparta:

[VOTE: G-Man ] aubergine

Let’s gooooooooooooooo

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:17 pm
The Limits of Power

"It's out of the question!" The heroes could hear the Monitor arguing with Harbinger from an antechamber. "If you try to wield power like that, it will consume you!" They couldn't hear Harbinger's voice as she replied. "You know the price... it's not yet time."

Harbinger strode quickly from the room, her face sad and angry. Seeing the heroes, she moved to them, saying, "He's wrong, I do have the power! We need to act now, before he's ready for us! Follow me!"

The heroes gathered behind her as she took them to a tightly sealed room, with three-foot thick titanium walls and door. "This room will shield the rest of the universe from what we're doing here. I'm going to open a portal to the Anti-Matter universe so that you can take this fight directly to the Anti-Monitor!"

The heroes looked uneasy. "I thought the Monitor said you couldn't-" began Agatha, before Harbinger cut her off sharply.

"We can't just sit around, waiting to get picked off by shadow demons!" She stood in the centre of the room, and held her arms up. "The Anti-Matter universe will feel rather strange, and crossing over creates a bit of reality shear, so try to hang on to your sense of self." Her hands glowed brightly, and an energy vortex formed in front of her.

Aja gulped. "My sense of self? What?"

"Ho ho hooo!" laughed Santa. "I guess we'll find out! Hope we've all been good!"

With that, the portal exploded open, and waves of force began emanating from it, causing the heroes to squint and shield their faces. "Move through!" cried Harbinger. "I don't know how long I can - AAIIIEEE!!" The glow from her hands began to spread down her arms to her shoulders. "GO!!"

The heroes rushed for the portal, but as they went through, they could see a few of the Anti-Monitor's goons waiting to ambush them on the other side. As they met, the clash of universes warped reality, causing normally stable things like distance, time, and proportion to vary wildly. After a quick battle which neither side was fully prepared for, the heroes broke through. King Dedede looked back once to Harbinger, whose entire body was covered by the glowing energy, and as the portal began to close behind them, the energy seemed to consume her entirely. Or did it? He couldn't be sure.

The portal snapped shit and vanished, and in the sudden silence, the heroes began to take stock of their situation, which included a couple of dead bodies.

Dyslexicon has been killed!

sabie12 has been killed! She was Uncle Fester, a baddie on the Anti-Monitor's team, from Addams Family Mafia by Epignosis.

Day 3 has begun!

I’m fucking goat

why does nutella feel off tonally

he has a hulk

I mean Sabie is independently scummy so this works even better for me

we'll see if I mansplained myself into a wolf lynch

i bet you

Michelle's still indie

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:11 pm Yeah I'm trying to comprehend why her catching you in a previous game would be used as a reasoning to scum read you in here. Like, without actually having commented anything on you from this game.

Ok, I won't do a loaded question. I'll actually think critically.

IF there's a reason for why sabie was scum reading you and didn't mention it in the thread, I'd like to hear that.

I'll eventually get a soul read on you sabie. Don't worry. I just need like, 3 more games or so.

Yeah I'm trying to comprehend why her catching you in a previous game would be used as a reasoning to scum read you in here. Like, without actually having commented anything on you from this game.

A broken clock strikes correctly twice during a day sabie :P

sabie, i declare you my arch nemesis on syndicate. i have an arch nemesis on MU which I always scum read and it's not anything that you can do about it, unfortunately, so maybe we could work on switching the frame to a more positive one. you can like laugh at me and then reminisce at these games when we will hopefully be playing in the future and go

and having a grin on your face

i have much respect for my arch nemesis

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:51 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:12 pm I'm like 80% sure sabie flips scum, and it's not only because of the wall I've made but that's pretty fabulous. I've taken into account her surgery and this is why I'm currently not haphazardly pushing her to reply to my post, I'm sure she will, I'll give her the time she needs.

I do have one question, nutella, do you have a history of correctly reading sabie? Any reason why she would fear you if she were scum? stuff like that
Ohhhhh ted I haven't gotten to your tldr post yet I'm at work but I'm checking in here and there. Are we going to go through this whole thing a third time? Where you accuse me of being scummy because you don't understand the way I play and then mansplain how I should be playing and then you find out you were wrong about me and then I help win the game. It's always so fun

always a pleasure. should i start avoiding reading you because of our previous encounters?

we would've won anyway. well, the people that were alive would've.

this feels a little unfair, given you haven't even, well, read the main thing I had on you. but that's okay.

sabie created a dichotomy between Jack and nutella

sabie said jack wouldn't push nutella because him doing that as scum and being wrong will make him a suspect. she votes nutella.

jack backs out. sabie says "well that doesn't change how I feel about nutella cuz I would've expected jack to do that anyway"

"I", as in, her own read. sabie didn't say anything about nutella before that.

I'm like 80% sure sabie flips scum, and it's not only because of the wall I've made but that's pretty fabulous. I've taken into account her surgery and this is why I'm currently not haphazardly pushing her to reply to my post, I'm sure she will, I'll give her the time she needs.

I do have one question, nutella, do you have a history of correctly reading sabie? Any reason why she would fear you if she were scum? stuff like that

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:36 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:30 pm I'm really not sure how I feel about Jimmaaay. He seems kind of controlled or something, which is possibly oof. ButwhatdoIknownothing.
I sort of liked his play from what I'd noticed, but his vote on me is very wagony.

Will ISO Sloonei in a bit, as requested.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:32 pm Let’s go with a nice rainbow list. Those tend to work well for me this game.

Not at all fond of
Jay – doing nothing of note, but no one is seeing this apparently, so we’ll circle back here later cuz I don’t have the time now

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:01 pm
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:39 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:10 am Actually, all your words are washing over me. I'm taking nothing in.

One time on my home forum I spent the entire first round just gif-posting a handful of times and not engaging in the game at all because I was busy. I got myself mislynched D1. But before I went, I made a final serious post in which I named the entire scum team.

Sometimes looking at something from the corner of your eye allows you to see more. /deep thoughts
Scum tbqh
I have a read on this post, TH. I would like to expand. But can you first tell me whether or not you were serious? Unclear

bro ngl this absolutely looks like s/s/s and i'd laugh my ass off if i was right

oh lol the timing

I think G-Man / JJJ / TH / Sabie lynches at least 2 of radishes scum buds, in that order

TH - G-Man - JJJ have high scum equity together and with Radishes separately. Huh. Funny.

Radishes not setting up G-man when he was an easy wagon and instead going for me...Why not just vote G-man who's a much easier pick and already has like 4 votes and top wagon when you were in thread. It's literally low hanging fruit. Unless...He was your bud?

some food for thought.

that push on me from radishes was absolute level of bad and he's done it at the time the speed - dys - and whoever else coalition was forming against me, it reeked of scum trying to set up a vote on a potential wagon

Maybe TH, J have high scum equity with Radishes?

I'll independently ISO G-man but still think he's scum and not voting him is blasphemy to the blood gods that want blood

the first vote goes on a high posting slot that he basically never expressed a read on and he made it appear like a joke

it's just...weird yo

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:46 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:44 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:42 pm Someone else did an early way-too-full reads list too, I think. I can't remember who.
Mac just copied Jimmaaay's. Probably a joke. Jimmay was the one with the full read list. Let's wagon. It's a great idea.
Lmao, you're right.

[VOTE: Vote JayJaggedJimmy] aubergine

inclined to call this a scum vote on a scum partner, his initial push was dismantled to pieces and he took advantage of being presented with another opportunity at what i would perceive as a weak attempt at spewing a scum bud.

like, i'd expect him to iso jjj, it's not like he's voting Dragogone slot or some low hanging fruit

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:34 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:24 pm We should wagon Dom as well.
[VOTE:
Dom] aubergine
Eh, I liked Dom's limited posts. They seem to fit the little I know of town!Dom.

Not scum with dom

nvm it was night one, but there's no flips to add to the development of such a thought

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:40 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:27 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:53 pm I think I like Sloonei, but I don't remember why now.
maybe you can dig in memories?
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:53 pm This is two posts from SVS now that have felt like they could be written by a scum. Not that they are, just that they could be.
I certainly don't have a mindmeld with Radishes this game
Possible teammate distancing?

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:43 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:09 am
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:08 am I am here, will catch up and post thoughts later today.
Uh, “champion”!
Going at Iso links and choosing the first.
Strange how he looks non interested in this game
More possible distancing?

This reads like a scum distancing from a person that is painted to be scum distancing from scum radishes.

There's no previous evaluation of Radishes, why does this read even occur like night 0 without any sort of flips? this also levels into nothing in the long run even though TH has mentioned him numerous times in his iso as a lynch candidate even if he hasn't got anything on him

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:12 pm My blacklist in order of lynching priority:

Michelle
Colin
Master Radishes
Sprityo
Sloonei

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:06 pm Well I'm still down for a Radishes lynch as well

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:38 pm [VOTE: MR] aubergine

This progression is scum.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:38 pm @tedxtr Ok. I don't know what to say to that. I've liked your other posts, mostly. /shrug.

Jimmay reminding me that we should probably just lynch Radish.
[VOTE:
Radish] aubergine

This post probably spews dys as not scum partners with radishes. If they were planning a bus, there would've been less hopping around and it seemed like Mac was being a bigger target at that time, so a bus makes no sense here. The credit is virtually non-existent because there wasn't any theatre previously between them two or anything.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:47 pm
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:37 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:34 pm somehow town needs to try to come together, form an understanding and cooperate. I generally don't think "Do your thing and I'll do mine" is a winning town mindset. We know scum will work together.
I thought we were and then you flipped on me, you're not even pressuring Jack meanwhile a lazy G-Man snowball rolls down the mountain getting fatter and fatter
We did. We do.

[VOTE: Jack
] aubergine
Ok.

Again, hopping around aimlessly. I believe jack wasn't even a contender at getting lynched, so this reinforces my view on dys as not partners with radishes. They already had all the reasoning to hop on mac.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:40 pm I want to vote mac but dont know why

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:41 pm Oh too late. Well... I have mixed feelings, but at least something will come out of this

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:43 pm I don’t like Mac being there to scream at the exact right time.

But also I’ve argued for Radish as scum all game, so can’t be mad

yeah this ain't a scum mate chief

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:44 pm I feel Radish will flip town rip

this is never a thought that someone has w/r/t their scum bud being lynched. scum are logical fellows, and if there's one thing that people hate, that's looking bad for being wrong. this just goes to show dys really didn't know radishes alignment and it was the paranoia that stemmed this post, which is intrinsically townie.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:21 am This game has been so hard for me to follow It takes me at least a half hour to catch up on reading everything after I leave and come back. I don't know why me voting for nutella who did not flip town and mac who is not confirmed town must mean I'm bad. I voted for mac because I thought his gameplay matched his other mafia gameplay before. We still don't know that mac isn't bad. I can see why people think I'm not playing well this game and that's a fair assessment because I'm having a hard time keeping up and making reads there is so much going on. So yeah I am trying my best and I always think it's better to be honest and to at least try to put my vote somewhere that I think makes sense than to make up fake reads or not vote at all. People always think I'm scummy because my posts are weird and my gameplay style doesn't make sense to them.

Spoiler: show

Alright, I didn't know what to start with but I guess I'll take this at a time when I'm actually able to analyse stuff on PC. Let's enter sabie's mind a little bit.

Sabie, admittedly, has avoided the Radishes wagon and decided to vote for him instead. The main reasoning was that his gameplay was reminiscing of a mafia meta. That's fine.

What isn't fine is how Sabie goes around the bolded and red line. It's something about the second sentence that strikes me as an odd thing to see from an uninformed PoV. Allegedly, sabie has already faltering reasons for scum reading Mac, which is meta. I honestly don't agree with mac aligning himself with his past mafia self so I'd really appreciate if sabie can describe to me how mac's different.

I'll cut to the chase, from a town PoV, mac's recent play was fairly good and I'd reckon a meta read would falter easily, but sabie's stiff on that read. The second line comes from a scum PoV that basically says "Oh well I'm being pushed for scum reading mac but we don't even know he doesn't flip scum here" which subtly hints towards the idea of sabie believing her read but I interpret that as having other underlying reasons for scum reading mac that sabie can't out, because it's the type of feels that scum teams have on the opposing team's scums, if that makes sense (also, the "we don't even know if he's flipping baddie speaks from a mindset of "well we don't know what he'll flip" - lol, obvious, but the point i was making was that this is said implies that sabie is unsure of the read herself, which, if she is, why does she seem to not be and if she's not, then why is she saying "we don't know"?). I interpret it that way because no way is sabie that confident in Mac flipping wolf off meta, especially when he's obviously not scum based on meta

, so she is secretive of other aspects that make her truthfully believe mac's scum with conviction.

Firstly, why'd you even base it off accuracy? That's what scum look for, lynching other scums and getting the credit. Mac flipping wolf by no means absolves you of anything, but it is a scum thought more than it is a town thought, because you think it'd make you look good for lynching scum when you're just playing according to your wincon.

And the crucial point I wanted to emphasize on is that sabie is virtually saying "let him flip wolf and that will confirm me" instead of explaining WHY she believes he's scum and burying him to death. That signals that she acknowledges her push is wrongly based but the ultimate conclusion that she draws out of it is that "the means which you get through to scum read someone don't matter if they ultimately flip scum" which I perceive to be a wolf thought rather than a civvie one, hope that made some sense.

Summary, sabie's bolded line expresses a thought of "follow me on mac, flip him and prove him wrong" even though her reasoning for scum reading him shouldn't reflect that type of thought, which is a meta read that, from my PoV, doesn't fit at all. The "we don't even know if mac is bad" is speaking more from a wolf mindset of "the means which you get to a scum read on someone doesn't matter as long as they flip wolf" which is more unlikely to come from a town that meta read someone at the last minute as mafia, it's also a pre-emptive defence. I don't think Sabie actually believes in mac flipping wolf and she seems to imply it heavily in this post, I can't see sabie scum reading mac heavily off a meta read, unless there were underlying reasons that she wouldn't be able to pinpoit because they heavily rely on what scum factions feel for slots, which town have no knowledge of.

Let's take a look :

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:12 pm I've also not been a fan of TH this game I just read the ISO. My first issue with them at the beginning of the game was making reads with no real explanation. Then their treatment of colin was weird to me like they were so sure its gotta be colin and anyone who thought maybe give colin a chance must be bad too. Now all of a sudden since no one was following that he's onto something else. Shrug idk I don't feel great about him so far.

I think right now though I feel worse about mac. I'm not seeing him as civ and in looking back at other games I could see his responses as a scum mac. He is trying to get people off himself without trying to make cases elsewhere. His blindly following jack on nutella was meh. I know he has a way of trying to sneakily get suspicion in different directions without directly saying it.
[VOTE: mac] aubergine

[mention]sabie12[/mention] could you develop on your reasons for meta reading him wolf and maybe quote some posts from other games that make you feel like they match his current gameplay?

I’m never scum with radishes, read day one polls

I don’t just park on a team mate

You americans need to start posting in my timezone god damnit

Waking up to 8 additional pages is a curse when you’re playing mobile

Isoing is the way to go for this game it seems

G-man still scum

Bye

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:49 am Sloon--

your post confirms what i'm thinking about sabie.

I'd like to hear more from ted.

The best I can do is some isoing individual analysis but you’ll have to bear with me cuz I can’t rn (going to school - then having private lessons) so in like maybe 10 hours or so, hopefully I have PC access and do some analysis of radishes spew and shit and case who I think is scum

I called Radishes scum and G-Man scum on N1 check that shit out

Radishes’ push on me rustled my jimmies but the thought only occurred to me in my REM sleep cycle but glad he got lynched tbh

He created a me - Mac dichotomy to point to me scum even though he had no read of Mac and he was also building that at the time I was starting to get heat

I mean it’s not even heat but like people were pushing me whatevs

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:50 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 12:48 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:30 pm g-man and radishes are partners.
Oh boy do I love this read
Because you’re also on their team?

Yes i’m willingly bussing my team mates and nobody even wants to take my helping hand

I skipped to mac mentioning me and skimmed below

I didn’t read anything btw give me a sec

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:30 pm g-man and radishes are partners.

Oh boy do I love this read

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