The Syndicate

i find it very shallow, as for your reasons for having me as a wolf, but most of that was a grand misrepresentation too

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 6:12 pm I think of the people who have interacted with me, I feel best about Seanzie and Neon, since both are sticking to their guns in spite of thread flow-- Seanzie in saying my responses felt okay when others said they didn't, Neon saying they didn't feel okay when others said they had.

this, is what you said

Kate wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 2:08 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 1:38 pm i normally wouldn't have even made that point as it could be a silly early interaction to chit chat esp given it's n0

but given her read on sean later on which doesn't make sense to me, i figured i'd type and hit enter anyway as the whole progression feels off to me

she's warping threadflow to give sean a villa read and neon too in a way that just doesn't make sense to me. and then her push on me doesn't really make a ton of sense either and it's for very shallow reasons fmpov, i just read it as bad faith, but i didn't care to debunk why it's bad just cuz i think it should be pretty obvious to anybody

"flying under the radar, voting me to give the feeling he's doing stuff and said he's a bad d1 player which could be his excuse" when i never said im a bad d1 player, just that i was lazy and i actually posted a lot of thoughts on other people. she's just interpreting a lot of things to fit her reads in a way that i can't believe is a villa making mistakes atp, judging that she got to sean villa based on a clear dichotomy and warping of threadflow to fit her reads. just too big of a coincidence
I understand what you're saying here, but if psv is bad and she's falsely trying clear seanzie AND Neon that would mean one wolf openly defended both of her teammates in one post. I find that aspect of the theory a little hard to swallow.

i didn't say she did do that, i actually think neon is a villager

what i think happened is that she wanted to put seanzie in the same bucket as a villager to clear him that way, except the reasoning just ended up not making any sense if you backtrack

you can't have 2 villa reads for them going against threadflow when those 2 people have completely opposite beliefs from each other

i normally wouldn't have even made that point as it could be a silly early interaction to chit chat esp given it's n0

but given her read on sean later on which doesn't make sense to me, i figured i'd type and hit enter anyway as the whole progression feels off to me

she's warping threadflow to give sean a villa read and neon too in a way that just doesn't make sense to me. and then her push on me doesn't really make a ton of sense either and it's for very shallow reasons fmpov, i just read it as bad faith, but i didn't care to debunk why it's bad just cuz i think it should be pretty obvious to anybody

"flying under the radar, voting me to give the feeling he's doing stuff and said he's a bad d1 player which could be his excuse" when i never said im a bad d1 player, just that i was lazy and i actually posted a lot of thoughts on other people. she's just interpreting a lot of things to fit her reads in a way that i can't believe is a villa making mistakes atp, judging that she got to sean villa based on a clear dichotomy and warping of threadflow to fit her reads. just too big of a coincidence

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 8:32 pm @Seanzie How are you drawing your conclusion? Do you not like Taylor Swift?

this is another thing that people will maybe not get and it's def gonna be rambl-y for me, but c'est la vie

this pings me. i read her last game and when she asked questions, she was always strict to the point and when she asked a question, she wanted the raw answer.

but in here she is downplaying the seriousness of the question by tackling in the last one, almost as if she doesn't genuinely care to figure him out. if you take a look at her last game, all questions are legitimate and they get at something. the tackling of the taylor swift line is setting the dynamic to be friendly and ease up the seriousness of the first one, almost gives him a leeway not to even answer it

"how did you get to me wolf" is a perfectly fine question, but the tackling of the taylor swift line makes it so that sean shouldn't feel too much pressure in answering it and detracts from the desire to find out the answer to the former one. and idk why this would be the case from her PoV if she genuinely wanted to figure him out. why not make people sweat?

i'll add in a point that it's ~interesting she goes on to call seanzie villagery for "sticking to his guns" even tho he basically did the complete opposite

which was to start aggressively tunneling her early and then to drop it without much explanation as to why (if any). i don't see how that's sticking to his guns, personally

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 6:12 pm I think of the people who have interacted with me, I feel best about Seanzie and Neon, since both are sticking to their guns in spite of thread flow-- Seanzie in saying my responses felt okay when others said they didn't, Neon saying they didn't feel okay when others said they had.

this post is a doozy for me

if someone can read over it and explain if this makes logical sense? how can you get 2 villa reads on 2 people opposing the thread flow... in 2 different directions???

is the thread flow either that people had said you answered poorly, or that they said you answered fine?

i think the best argument for sean / psv not being w/w is the fact that psv keeps interacting with him in very awkward manners

that's the thing that makes me doubt. i think i end up having the same interactions with a few wolves as she did with sean here usually

as a wolf you'd want to have interactions, but the interactions generally are angled to mean something, sometimes she just chimes in with random things like poems and stuff or idk

Camilla wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 5:54 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 11:06 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 10:46 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 9:56 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 8:53 am
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 11:15 pm I disagree with Neon's read on me, obviously, but I think the tunnel at least feels sincere. Ted clinging to my wagon feels much more ho-hum. Like they're just doing it to seem productive.
Calling my push on you a tunnel is a bit misleading I'm not really pushing you much and I'm gonna move my vote after catch up lol
What changed?
Nothing really but if nobody else agrees I'm not gonna bother pushing that
I don't like this post. PSV is currently tied for the lead.
Seanzie didn't interact much with Neon but GTH I feel like this seems to be him TMI'ing PSV V and using their potential future flip as a reason to push Zenon.

I don't think this is an avenue that a wolf takes to push a partner so I don't feel like going to Zenon immediate when d2 begins.

i think your #wanting is interpreting it that way

he's simply calling neon out for not doing it. why is it TMIng psv villa because he called neon out on a contradiction?

i do agree it's non-partnery for zenon / sean, but saying he TMIs psv there is a reach imo.

Camilla wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 12:12 am Thing is if Ted/PSV are V/V then it feels WTF for Six to just go YOLO and further push him as the lead wagon like that.

it's part of why i have them as a pair. psv and myself were the competing wagons afair

not sure if there was a wolf in danger to die (in the world psv is v) there for him to come and place the vote down. idk if it's as wolfy if psv is a villa, but he still has to explain why he voted

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 4:57 am in spite of my earlier reads, i actually think if there was a busser in this progression, it's more likely to be dennis than anyone. this is because if any of seanzie's partners were present in the thread at the time, it makes sense to me that they would want to jump on his wagon to get some last minute towncred, and dennissaying that he's "going to ISO seanzie" and then jumping on him 6 minutes later feels a bit abrupt and like he is forcing himself to find an excuse to vote for seanzie instead of coming to suspect him organically

ftr that's why dennis is currently last in my villa reads or second to last from previously where i said he was lock cleared

but i'll say his pov on psv is perfectly fine to have as a villa, regardless of psv's alignment their push on me seems to be very incorrect and could easily be interpreted as bad faith

i may also want it deep down for him to be a villa just cuz someone would have made the easiest and most accurate read on me, but i acknowledge it's probably easier to make with TMI

with all that said, i wouldn't lunch him before other slots. probably sixstring and i'll see what psv manages to do on d2

also if you’re at it, if you can also list what the legitimate concerns are for all the people you’ve listed in your post, that would be of help too

can you link the game?

Camilla wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 7:04 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 6:50 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 6:39 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 6:31 pm i've read sean's iso, and psv is not clear at all
What's your fixation with trying to push me, ted? There are legitimate concerns with sig/six, falcon (still disagree but not enough substance to really fight it) and Dennis, yet you insist on pooping and then throwing it at me.
big yikes

there are legitimate concerns with ~0 posters?

also, neon, have we ever played before?
I mean, Six suddenly popping up, placing a vote on you, and then dipping and not returning is kind of concerning.

I'm p sure you also had this concern on them earlier?

you are missing the point

saying "legitimate" concerns about ~0 posters is wolfy. and from psv's pov im supposedly a wolf, so how is his vote concerning?

legitimate concern to me implies people have made posts that are wolfy. except they barely made any posts / she's saying this about the 0 posters

camilla / spf / kate

lemon / neon

dennis

pyxxy

rest

sixtystrings
psv

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 6:39 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 6:31 pm i've read sean's iso, and psv is not clear at all
What's your fixation with trying to push me, ted? There are legitimate concerns with sig/six, falcon (still disagree but not enough substance to really fight it) and Dennis, yet you insist on pooping and then throwing it at me.

big yikes

there are legitimate concerns with ~0 posters?

also, neon, have we ever played before?

i've read sean's iso, and psv is not clear at all

Camilla wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 6:00 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 5:09 pm guess i shoulda pushed sean more oops
Tbfh this reaction meh as it kind of emphasizes regret over not being on Sean's wagon rather than being happy that he was a wolf, tbh.

lol

kate prob has the clearest progression

guess i shoulda pushed sean more oops

SixStrings wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 2:51 pm I have done some catching up today and I am on the Ted wagon for now.

just keep account of this for when / if he doesn't come back to make more posts before the lunch target

for now implies he'll be coming back, if his vote is on a villa and his reason is made up, he doesn't have to come back

whatever

between camilla / spf for lategame when they'll get tinfoiled, i think camilla is villagerier than spf

seanzie fell off a cliff but idt it looks too bad if sig / six / psv have 2 wolves. if the wolves are more active, his change in play is a bit suspicious cuz he went from being aggressive to being cordial and diplomatic in how he reached reads at a point in the game where we were focused on the low posting people and he could've skated on his aggression

kate / dennis / pyxxy's postings are fine, dennis prob my top villa (funny how life goes)

lemonfairy had a few villagery posts but the bar is low to be confident on it

the rest i have no clue about

i'd be shooting psv if i had a means to, prob my most "confident" read

Kate wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 3:41 pm I also don't like that Ted and falcon are the 2 left sitting on psv.

why not?

Kate wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 3:18 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 3:17 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 3:16 pm
Camilla wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 3:04 pm [VOTE: SixStrings] aubergine
I'm not willing to vote here yet. He's a lost newbie and it def possible he randed bad, but I'd be more willing to look at other low posters who know better than to hide. I'm not a big fan of voting off low posters day 1.
if he's a newbie then voting on the top wagon with no explanation and dipping is probably almost outing tbh
If you think he's bad, I won't try to dissuade you from voting there, I'm just not willing to one day one.

ironically i think psv is a better vote, but i made that post because in the case he is a newbie, those actions are very wolfy and your post seemed to imply it doesn't mean much

Kate wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 3:16 pm
Camilla wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 3:04 pm [VOTE: SixStrings] aubergine
I'm not willing to vote here yet. He's a lost newbie and it def possible he randed bad, but I'd be more willing to look at other low posters who know better than to hide. I'm not a big fan of voting off low posters day 1.

if he's a newbie then voting on the top wagon with no explanation and dipping is probably almost outing tbh

sixstrings / psv / +1 yolo

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 2:59 pm Ted is the top wagon rn and I don't know why. Not so much I'm 100 percent sure they're town, more I feel like no one really explained themselves (maybe I'm just forgetting) and that's currently steering me towards TRing them

you said you are bad at mafia, but i can assure you that you are already better than a lot of people i play with just based on your read on me

kate, you said you invited psv to play here, have you seen them play at all?

if yes, then what do you think about their alignment?

unfortunate crossposts, it was meant to be a reply to six's entry

don't do anything all day, come vote the top wagon. i'm sure based on original reasoning too

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 2:24 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 4:54 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 10:58 pm to be honest it feels to me like one of those games where the wolves are primarily in the lower posters/people with zero presence which makes it uniquely hard to find a wolfread that i feel confident about

it also generally just feels like not enough has happened for me to have a strong understanding of the current gamestate

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 11:02 pm i feel that his pushes have been a bit limp/have fizzled out in a way that shows a lack of internal conviction

can you explain the connection you see between those two posts?

it's mainly that i sorta share the same view, so it's weird to get called out for not having any conviction when there's not much to be pushed on. but it's even funnier that you say it's tough to push anyone with any conviction and then call me out for not having any

i feel like nobody has any conviction and it's obvious why, i don't see why it makes me look bad in your eyes esp when we seemed to share the same view, so you'd have the answer to your question

i changed my mind, i’m likely not moving

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 11:02 pm im thinking about the way that he came into the game pushing on dennis for sounding ~overly friendly~ but then dropped the push as soon as the thread consensus started agreeing that dennis was town

hate being nitpicky, but only camilla expressed a villa read of dennis

you view that as consensus or?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 10:58 pm to be honest it feels to me like one of those games where the wolves are primarily in the lower posters/people with zero presence which makes it uniquely hard to find a wolfread that i feel confident about

it also generally just feels like not enough has happened for me to have a strong understanding of the current gamestate

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 11:02 pm i feel that his pushes have been a bit limp/have fizzled out in a way that shows a lack of internal conviction

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 11:15 pm I disagree with Neon's read on me, obviously, but I think the tunnel at least feels sincere. Ted clinging to my wagon feels much more ho-hum. Like they're just doing it to seem productive.

how is placing naked votes on you being productive?

also, i probably posted thoughts on at least 5-6 other different people. how can you believe this xD

anyway, the day is shaping up to be exactly what i expected it to. just wanted to say i disagree with the villa reads on psv, spf's point doesn't hold much water to me when most of the "heat" psv has gotten was from n0 and from two people, one of which was sheeping and the other didn't hard push them afaict and most of their posts could easily be faked by a wolf. idk where the villagery posts are. i wanna see some thoughts from them on players

i'll probably end up voting someone like kate / sixstring if it becomes a thing just because i have a tough time finding someone actively wolfy. i think seanzie fell off a very big cliff in terms of aggressiveness / solving after n0 fwiw

or if i have the time to re-read again, i might do a spicy vote who knows

D1 shouldn’t have hammer enabled but idk

i agree on dennis’ response being good

[VOTE: psv ] aubergine

not really incompatible, with meta on you i wouldn’t have brought it up probably

but given i don’t know too many people it’s something i picked up on

pretty cool you’re playing this at 14, i wish i’d known about it earlier. started at 17-18 ish

Camilla wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 12:18 pm excessive levels of caution.

how so? i've just said i don't feel like voting you but that you had some off things

what's cautious about that? is it cuz they both voted, but i didn't?

Camilla wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 12:04 pm What exactly is your read on me rn?

idk

why'd you vote me

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 6:46 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 3:13 am i townlean potentialsheltervet because she seems unfettered by the pressure on her and has maintained a consistent feeling of comfort even tho a lot of the thread so far has revolved around people accusing her and bcuz the nuance of the way she is reading the ppl pushing her (ie: townreading neon and seanzie for a perceived sincerity in their read on her but then not extending the same to ted) feels organic to me
i picked up on the same thing, except i was unsure if that was villagery. i voted cuz i have a habit of*

as for your camilla vote, my gut feeling was to kinda "ehhh do i really buy this angle" on her reads upon me skimming again, but for some reason i don't feel compelled to vote

i'll say having psv as her highest wolf read and neon as villagery were some of the reads i kinda found a bit weird, not for the reads themselves just how she got to them. the neon read seemed off, i don't see why her posting couldn't have been that of a wolf

i mean the reason she gave for neon could be said of mostly everyone, including dennis / kate / maybe even falcon

*dismissing wolf reads cuz of twtbaw and i wanted to take the opposite approach this time, vote on things that seem wolfy and decide after if they become more villagery

except she already had 3 votes with mine and nobody else had any so i went with voting my pet read

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 3:13 am i townlean potentialsheltervet because she seems unfettered by the pressure on her and has maintained a consistent feeling of comfort even tho a lot of the thread so far has revolved around people accusing her and bcuz the nuance of the way she is reading the ppl pushing her (ie: townreading neon and seanzie for a perceived sincerity in their read on her but then not extending the same to ted) feels organic to me

i picked up on the same thing, except i was unsure if that was villagery. i voted cuz i have a habit of

as for your camilla vote, my gut feeling was to kinda "ehhh do i really buy this angle" on her reads upon me skimming again, but for some reason i don't feel compelled to vote

i'll say having psv as her highest wolf read and neon as villagery were some of the reads i kinda found a bit weird, not for the reads themselves just how she got to them. the neon read seemed off, i don't see why her posting couldn't have been that of a wolf

i mean the reason she gave for neon could be said of mostly everyone, including dennis / kate / maybe even falcon

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 9:14 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:04 pm [VOTE: dennis ] aubergine

his interactions seem to me to be designed with ulterior motives in mind

let me know if he’s just generally super friendly tho. still feel like the way he’s going about it to influence somehow rather than just doing it for the sake of being friendly
Which interactions in particular are you talking about?

Dennis is friendly, but idk if I would say "super friendly".

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 2:55 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:45 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:43 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:41 pm fwiw i feel like giving reads rn would be a LEAK due to 2 non posters

but i’ll add a wolfy remark of i kinda like where things are headed and have noticed nothing that i was going “huh wat” in my head to

a bit of a thing i spotted was alice stating a rand v read on seanzie and then making a post to spf saying she shouldn’t give him an easy villa pass, gth it feels bad but if i’m thinking about it, i don’t see what point it accomplishes as a wolf. might be a villagery progression
What do you mean by you like where things are headed?
I don’t disagree with any reads stated etc is what i meant, tho i didn’t read with too much caution

i’m a very lazy d1 player. and this isn’t even d1 yet tbh
This guy gets me

this one is probably the most relevant one

just felt like a combination of chumminess while also potentially establishing the fact that he will lay it low in the beginning by using me as a propeller for it, indirectly. (associating his play with that of a villager)

rather than just stating it out loud that he won't be solving early, or just completely saying nothing about it and just say it if he gets prodded with it

has a hint of getting ahead of the curve to me a bit

[VOTE: dennis ] aubergine

his interactions seem to me to be designed with ulterior motives in mind

let me know if he’s just generally super friendly tho. still feel like the way he’s going about it to influence somehow rather than just doing it for the sake of being friendly

@Kate

do you make it a point not to post any game content on n0?

I just wanna know for reasons

[VOTE: psv ] aubergine

nothing personal

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 2:52 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:01 pm spent 10 days taking care of my neighbor’s 2 cats

this is my last day, ama

what i’ve learnt is that boy cats poop stinks unearthly
What's your favorite color

it was always undeniably blue, but nowadays i appreciate other colors too

it might be 60/40 blue / violet

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:47 pm also hi bestie it's nice to be playing with u again~

likewise

hopefully our streak doesn't extend to w/v for the nth time

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:43 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:41 pm fwiw i feel like giving reads rn would be a LEAK due to 2 non posters

but i’ll add a wolfy remark of i kinda like where things are headed and have noticed nothing that i was going “huh wat” in my head to

a bit of a thing i spotted was alice stating a rand v read on seanzie and then making a post to spf saying she shouldn’t give him an easy villa pass, gth it feels bad but if i’m thinking about it, i don’t see what point it accomplishes as a wolf. might be a villagery progression
What do you mean by you like where things are headed?

I don’t disagree with any reads stated etc is what i meant, tho i didn’t read with too much caution

i’m a very lazy d1 player. and this isn’t even d1 yet tbh

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 1:43 pm Oh. Okay Alice=Camilla, Jess=SPF?

yea

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