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by Alison
Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:42 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Gym Class Mafia D7
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Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Seanzie wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:40 am Your initial vote on Cape and your follow up. You never explained why you were voting, and the "Why did you think emotes was the reason for the vote?" just really feels a lot more like a question for the sake of a question rather than you really digging at anything (can you give an example of an AI answer to that question?). Now, you've seemed to indirectly claim that this was just a vote to get the game going, which is fine in it's own right, but IME, people who do that are almost always strongly overstating a real (but weak) thought, rather than just making suspicion completely up, so a lack of explanation for the vote is concerning. Why did you vote Cape?
I answer both of your questions in #133. To reiterate: I thought his reference to mafia waking up was a lame attempt to be all "hello fellow townies, this sure is a townie thread, the mafia probably hasn't woken up, amiright?" So I voted him. It's a thin read, but more than enough for page 1.

He responded by defensively claiming that "he just wanted to try out the emotes". This deepened my suspicion, because at no point did I give any indication that it was about the emotes. The pre-emptive excuse-making re: emote usage suggests a guilty conscience, or him seeing his emote usage as scummier than it is because he's a wolf. This is why I asked him if he had any reason to believe I pushed him for emote usage.
by Alison
Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:00 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Gym Class Mafia D7
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Views: 39782

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Wisdom wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:34 am I have no idea why Alison is voting me btw. Reverse pocketing? Actually wolf reading me? RT? No clue.
I found it difficult to believe you genuinely suspect me for forcing thin reads early on, since I have done so (in a way that you would find pretty memorable) in a previous shared game, and have also discussed my early D1 philosophy with you. So I voted you.

When I pressed you about this, you admitted the reasoning was shaky, but held the scumread on the basis of "vibes". I think that reeks of wanting to find a pretext to maintain an inauthentic scumread when you are challenged on it.
by Alison
Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:55 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Gym Class Mafia D7
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Views: 39782

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Shending_Help wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:14 am :werewolf:
Alison wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 5:59 am @Shending_Help When you played with Cape and he was scum, how did he deal with pressure on him?
It felt like he mainly just ignored it while simultaneously posting iso's until ppl went elsewhere (I was highly responsible for that in thta game, I cfd'd away from him like 2 times that game)

In the town game he was also under pressure a lot. And while he didn't constantly meet it head-on always, that happened more often from what I recall compared to the wolfgame. And he gave off more of a "lol ur wrong" feeling and just moved onto his own reads
Thanks. I'll take that into consideration.
by Alison
Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:54 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Gym Class Mafia D7
Replies: 1514
Views: 39782

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Shending_Help wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:09 am I havent actually played a normal non-turbo game with Sabi before so, I'd like some input from others on this progression on me.
I don't see a problem with this progression. I read Sabi's post as: "When Shending is town they have good tone, when they are wolf they have bad tone. Their tone is good at first, but then they have a post with really bad tone and now I no longer townread them". That doesn't seem like a particularly unnatural thought process.
by Alison
Sat Jul 16, 2022 5:59 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Gym Class Mafia D7
Replies: 1514
Views: 39782

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

@Shending_Help When you played with Cape and he was scum, how did he deal with pressure on him?
by Alison
Sat Jul 16, 2022 5:56 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Gym Class Mafia D7
Replies: 1514
Views: 39782

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

If I was the town drafter, I'd just focus on drafting good solvers that can clear themselves easily. dunia, dyachei, Seanzie.

If I was the mafia drafter, I'd flip a coin. If it lands on heads I just make a list of who I think is best at wolfing in this game in order, and then draft down the list. If it lands on tails I'd draft one strong player (probably dunia, or dyachei if dunia is taken) and then fill the rest with players that either tend to be quieter presences (Wilgy, Spacedaisy) or players that most people wouldn't expect me to draft either because I haven't gotten along with them in the past or because I don't know them (Axe, Cape, Shending).
by Alison
Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:09 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Gym Class Mafia D7
Replies: 1514
Views: 39782

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Talk to me about your dya and Cape "town?" reads. What glimmers of townieness do you see in them?
by Alison
Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:58 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Gym Class Mafia D7
Replies: 1514
Views: 39782

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Wisdom wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:56 am
Alison wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:49 am [VOTE: Wisdom] aubergine
Aren't you supposed to have a godread on me :p
This is the first time I've heard of this. I've hardly ever played with you, and one of those times was when we shared a slot.
by Alison
Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:49 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Gym Class Mafia D7
Replies: 1514
Views: 39782

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

[VOTE: Wisdom] aubergine
by Alison
Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:48 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Gym Class Mafia D7
Replies: 1514
Views: 39782

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Wisdom wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:44 am
Alison wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:39 am
Wisdom wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 6:00 pm From a non Wolf Captain PoV I still think Alison is wolfing. Probably HK as well. And NAX is likely town.

I think Alison's reads is forced and being reads for the sake of having reads.

HK saying NAX is a bit sus also feels like being edgy for the sake of being edgy. Town!HK would probably just call me a wolf and go to bed.

And I trust NAX to be town for the time being. Not locked, but for now.
1) Why do you think my reads are forced and

2) Why do you think that is wolfy?
It felt like your first few posts were digging for alignments in NAI posts. I'm pretty sure your wolf meta is to always look solvey since that's how you play as town, am I right? And I don't think you actually found Cape's post AI, for example.
Your hydra partner said "hello" and I tunnelled them to death in the last game we played together. I find it hard to believe that you think I never push people for "NAI" posts early on in the game. I'm pretty sure I told you afterwards it was specifically to get the game in gear too.
by Alison
Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:42 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Gym Class Mafia D7
Replies: 1514
Views: 39782

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Marmot wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:56 pm Townreads thus far

NAA
Cape
Shendog
Wisdom

Null

Everyone else
Talk to me about your Cape townread.
by Alison
Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:41 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Gym Class Mafia D7
Replies: 1514
Views: 39782

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Seanzie wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:35 pm [VOTE: Alison] aubergine

serious vote.
Why?
by Alison
Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:39 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Gym Class Mafia D7
Replies: 1514
Views: 39782

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Wisdom wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 6:00 pm From a non Wolf Captain PoV I still think Alison is wolfing. Probably HK as well. And NAX is likely town.

I think Alison's reads is forced and being reads for the sake of having reads.

HK saying NAX is a bit sus also feels like being edgy for the sake of being edgy. Town!HK would probably just call me a wolf and go to bed.

And I trust NAX to be town for the time being. Not locked, but for now.
1) Why do you think my reads are forced and

2) Why do you think that is wolfy?
by Alison
Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:38 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Gym Class Mafia D7
Replies: 1514
Views: 39782

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Seanzie wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:57 pm I agree with this read and also believe it applies to me.
I wasn't aware that LC disliked you that strongly.
by Alison
Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:37 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Gym Class Mafia D7
Replies: 1514
Views: 39782

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Shending_Help wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:46 pm Also, i kinda believe Axe's argument for him not being picked. I think the "Alison would be picked for sure" is a little bit more of a coinflip for me, since it's pretty well known Lime has a lot of respect for Alison, and he would be aware of that (right?)
I actually think it's more likely Rondo first picked me, for reasons that I don't care to share right now.

I feel like if Lime had first crack at me he'd draft me regardless.
by Alison
Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:35 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Gym Class Mafia D7
Replies: 1514
Views: 39782

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

NotAnAxehole wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:29 pm This is a draft game? Lime Coke drafted mafia team...

Well, I'm confirmed town.

1) Lime Coke hates me and would never subject himself to being in a chat with me
2) Lime Coke thinks I'm bad at mafia
3) Lime Coke thinks I'm bad at town

Gym class is easy. I won't post again today, but I'll vote someone later. If I ever die during the day this game, I take no responsibility for it because you should all know better, and those who don't should inform themselves. It's not just like "Lime Coke slightly dislikes this guy"... It's bad.
I can buy this. He was one of the people who got really mad at you for faking the red, right?
by Alison
Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:33 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Gym Class Mafia D7
Replies: 1514
Views: 39782

Re: Gym Class Mafia

Alison wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:32 am
Cape90 wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:55 pm
Alison wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:06 am Marmot's entrance is pretty townie.
What have they done that is AI?
Marmot's entranced was relaxed and comfortable. I think they tend to enter kinda stiffly as mafia, and sometimes even play it up because they enjoy leaning into suspicion as a wolf.
Compare his entrance here to eg. GOC.
by Alison
Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:32 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Gym Class Mafia D7
Replies: 1514
Views: 39782

Re: Gym Class Mafia

Cape90 wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:55 pm
Alison wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:06 am Marmot's entrance is pretty townie.
What have they done that is AI?
Marmot's entranced was relaxed and comfortable. I think they tend to enter kinda stiffly as mafia, and sometimes even play it up because they enjoy leaning into suspicion as a wolf.
by Alison
Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:31 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Gym Class Mafia D7
Replies: 1514
Views: 39782

Re: Gym Class Mafia

Cape90 wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:52 pm The words I said are NAI. I don't understand why you are pushing on this
I thought your intentionally bringing up "when the mafia do X" was trying a little too hard to emphasize how not-mafia you are. Your defensive attitude and pre-emptive excuse-making ("I just wanted to try out the emojis" when I never said a word about them) have reinforced that read.
by Alison
Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:24 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Gym Class Mafia D7
Replies: 1514
Views: 39782

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Shending_Help wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:58 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:25 am [VOTE: HK] aubergine is a wolf this game and is to be yeeted at last light.

This is an imperial decree and shall not be revoked.
i'm getting the weakest of townleans from this post

So

N0: SpaceDaisy

Slight V: Marmot

Sliiightly above rand: Wigly, Alison
Why am I and Wilgy "slightly above rand"? Neither of us have done anything much.
by Alison
Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:24 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Gym Class Mafia D7
Replies: 1514
Views: 39782

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Shending_Help wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:53 pm
Shending_Help wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:51 pm I can get behind the early good vibes on Mr. Marmot
It's mainly the "tbh lol" following his Cape vote. It's clearly referencing some thought-process of his that he's hasn't put in the thread yet (which is Rand V in my head)
I townread this read.
by Alison
Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:23 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Gym Class Mafia D7
Replies: 1514
Views: 39782

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

I am back. Had some stuff to deal with. I should be on more frequently now.
by Alison
Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:06 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Gym Class Mafia D7
Replies: 1514
Views: 39782

Re: Gym Class Mafia

Marmot's entrance is pretty townie.
by Alison
Fri Jul 15, 2022 7:33 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Gym Class Mafia D7
Replies: 1514
Views: 39782

Re: Gym Class Mafia

Cape90 wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 5:20 am
Alison wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 5:10 am
Cape90 wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:49 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:16 pm I'd say I'm fashionably late but by the looks of things I'm still early
This game is slow so far :bored:

Whenever the mafia is ready to awaken and play the game, that would be a good time to play fr :sparta:

Well, unless you yourself are just mafia :ohyeah: :ninja:
[VOTE: Cape90] aubergine

Serious vote.
okay I just wanted an excuse to use these emotes tbh lol
I didn't vote you because of the emotes.

Why did you think that was the reason for the vote?
by Alison
Fri Jul 15, 2022 5:10 am
Forum: Previous Rackets
Topic: Gym Class Mafia D7
Replies: 1514
Views: 39782

Re: Gym Class Mafia

Cape90 wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:49 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:16 pm I'd say I'm fashionably late but by the looks of things I'm still early
This game is slow so far :bored:

Whenever the mafia is ready to awaken and play the game, that would be a good time to play fr :sparta:

Well, unless you yourself are just mafia :ohyeah: :ninja:
[VOTE: Cape90] aubergine

Serious vote.

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