The Syndicate

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Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:16 pm The fact that Alison seems to have not read Made's ISO for spew is suss.

And I say that not to extend the hostilities but just because it is really obvious who is the most likely clearable player off of Made's day one...and while a number of people have seen that Alison is not one of them.

I'm not convinced it spews HK so /shrug

G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:51 pm Save some posts for, you know, productive discussion, kay? Tim and Alison trying to yell over each other just makes the rest of the LB feel like kids caught in the middle of an ugly divorce. I lived that reality in my last job- the two owners were at each other’s throats constantly. Been there, done that, burned the old company t-shirt. No thanks.

Though the tin-foil geek in me would love to theorize that the team is just Made-Alison-Tim and this is all just a bunch of sick and twisted theatre. But in a game like this, why bother trying that hard?

You're right. I've made my point about Tim, everyone knows exactly who I suspect if I flip.

Let's talk about the slankers.

TSP/Wilgy. What do you think about them?

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:42 pm That's a bullshit argument and I told you it was at the time. If you are a wolf cruising along with two bussy slanky partners and Mac strikes a scumread on you out of the sky your bussy/slanky partners aren't gonna jump against Mac to save you and you know it. You would be on your own to live or die by turning him around or shoving him over first. And there is NO shortage of potential bussy/slanky partners that could be on that team...Made being a great example. You think "the threadstate" was gonna make Made pop out of the weeds and take on Mac? C'mon.

No all they had to do was say "I don't know I don't think there's at least one wolf between the two to sow some doubt about the double kill. Instead EVERYONE in the thread was perfectly willing and eager to swallow that line. There was 0 reason for either wolf Alison or wolf Mac to go balls to the wall trying to kill the other there and instruct their teammates to follow suit.

Also it's literally an argument Mac himself made so you can cease trying to frame it as something cooked up by scum.

In a sane town everyone would have immediately unvoted Mac the moment we started townreading each other. That they didn't is honestly shockingly bad. However not everyone knows Mac's history with me so that can be forgiven. What cannot be overlooked is trying to pass it off as two people just making up shit to survive especially when one of them has flipped town and pretending like none of you had a choice when you clearly did.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:31 pm I saw no choice but to execute you both. Your heel turns were both apparently founded far more in "I wanna live" than in any reasons the other had given for reversing the read, and "I wanna live" is NAI at best but really more wolfy than not. So independently other than "mac says I'm town" you had nothing going for you, and other than "Alison says I'm town" Mac had nothing going for him. Half the people in the bracket were gonna die, and the two wolfiest were you and Mac and you both should have given reads and died. If you are town and you had died I'd have six votes on me right now and your desires to have me executed today would have already been set in stone.

But your real interest wasn't saving Mab, or even killing me...your interest was survival.

And while you were busy surviving you managed not to get even a hair of the taken wolf pelt. That's not you as town Alison. No more than your current "all the wolves but Tim are in the upper bracket so <shrug>" play is you as town.

Neither of us said that because we wanted to live. Both of us are very capable of suicide bombing ourselves as town. Mac literally suicide bombed himself twice as town and I regularly go all out to get someone I want exed. In fact we said it because of very specific reads on the threadstate and how many people were swallowing the "Mac/Alison one wolf" narrative. We both said it in thread, and you will not get away with lying about that.

Our argument was that the scum team's actions did not make sense if either one of us was a wolf. If Mac is a wolf then his team was happy to let him die just to misexe me and vice versa. Did not make sense as a play. That is a solid argument and guess what, it was right and I know that for a fact. However you didn't take this into account, you just killed Mac despite me, the original person who raised suspicion on him in the first place, saying not to. You have the audacity to exe Mac directly against my wishes and now you are trying to get everyone to ignore his legacy. Therefore you are a wolf.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:23 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:16 pm What on earth do you mean by adapting to the setup? I'm playing this setup optimally. If the team is (for example) you/holllowkatt/Kylemii then I am wasting time chasing false leads if I'm trying to get other people in this bracket exed. I am well aware we have 3 exes today. I want one to be you. The other two, shrug. I don't have strong scumreads on anyone in this bracket which is why I said "just go for the slankers I guess". But voting them dilutes the relative ability of my vote to get you exed and I care about that above all else.

Other than them not openly agreeing with your tunnel what have Kyle and HK done wrong?

Kyle's much lesser priority than HK and I only used that team construction as an example.

I disagree with every push HK has made so far and I know I'm town so either he is very wrong town, I am very wrong town or he is scum. I'm proposing we exe you first before HK so we'll know for a fact who's the very wrong town before we have to make decisions about HK. If HK is too wrong he can't be allowed to live. On an object level his stuff about how pocketed he was by Marmot because Marmot did a couple of associative reads he agreed with was bad.

I'm done burying Tim. If you're smart you'll vote him today. If you can't get there on him, wait for me to flip town and turbo him the day after. Worst case scenario: all three exes today flip town, 8P mountainous, Tim flips scum, and we end up in 5 town 1 scum mountainous and you have some decent leads/associatives which should be enough to win the game.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:20 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:13 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:08 pm Nope. The exact same argument holds if either Alison or I are woofin'...as always, neither of us can be trusted on anything but production of pelts. I think iget a little credit for Made, and Alison gets none. So I think Alison goes in today's batch and unless I am doing better than "a little credit for Made's pelt" then I have to go tomorrow. This is just the way things work out for people with high end wolf reps.

Yeah except all that credit vanishes because you nakedly pushed obvious villagers like Mac and Gavial.

When you and Mac read each other as hard out wolves that die was cast...leaving either of you unresolved was dumb, leaving you both unresolved would have been just ridiculous.

As to Gavail...regrettable. Definitely should have been you. Poison should have voted you for self pres, just like I voted Gavail. If she has today would be easy, one way or the other, but such is life.

What do you mean that die was cast I straight up told you all to reverse course on Mac and you did it anyway, and you did everything in your power to make sure his exe went through. Any townie could have, at any point, simply unvoted like I did. Which is what they should have done because we found each other as town in the loser's bracket, like we always do when we town together, and I told you all I was doing my solving on the basis that Mac was town. As far as I know votes aren't locked so I don't know why you're pretending like you had "no choice" but to exe Mac.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:15 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:11 pm Send Mac to loser's because Alison said he's scum. Alison talks to Mac in loser's, determines he is no longer scum, unvotes him. Exe Mac anyway. Makes no sense.

Made wanted Mac dead more than anyone else. Mac is the only vote Made had. Conclusion: Mac being dead was scum agenda.

Tim hard pushed Mac. Conclusion: Tim is scum.

Everyone else on that wagon apart from Daisy is dead. If Made is the only wolf in loser's bracket and just wanted to fling shit at a wrongly suspected townie he would probably vote more than one person. Everything - especially the part where people don't change their reads after I change mine - suggest that they really wanted to bury Mac into the ground. It's a classic Tim play as scum, try to get strong players eliminated early so he can dominate the game.

Why didn't Made vote you?

Because he wanted Mac dead and he had the ability to decide if I lived or died anyway?

What on earth do you mean by adapting to the setup? I'm playing this setup optimally. If the team is (for example) you/holllowkatt/Kylemii then I am wasting time chasing false leads if I'm trying to get other people in this bracket exed. I am well aware we have 3 exes today. I want one to be you. The other two, shrug. I don't have strong scumreads on anyone in this bracket which is why I said "just go for the slankers I guess". But voting them dilutes the relative ability of my vote to get you exed and I care about that above all else.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:08 pm Nope. The exact same argument holds if either Alison or I are woofin'...as always, neither of us can be trusted on anything but production of pelts. I think iget a little credit for Made, and Alison gets none. So I think Alison goes in today's batch and unless I am doing better than "a little credit for Made's pelt" then I have to go tomorrow. This is just the way things work out for people with high end wolf reps.

Yeah except all that credit vanishes because you nakedly pushed obvious villagers like Mac and Gavial.

Send Mac to loser's because Alison said he's scum. Alison talks to Mac in loser's, determines he is no longer scum, unvotes him. Exe Mac anyway. Makes no sense.

Made wanted Mac dead more than anyone else. Mac is the only vote Made had. Conclusion: Mac being dead was scum agenda.

Tim hard pushed Mac. Conclusion: Tim is scum.

Everyone else on that wagon apart from Daisy is dead. If Made is the only wolf in loser's bracket and just wanted to fling shit at a wrongly suspected townie he would probably vote more than one person. Everything - especially the part where people don't change their reads after I change mine - suggest that they really wanted to bury Mac into the ground. It's a classic Tim play as scum, try to get strong players eliminated early so he can dominate the game.

I perceive the following people to be town:

DaisyCloud
Falcon
G-Man
Moghedien

If someone in this four is wrong it's probably Falcon since my read on him is the thinnest/least justified.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:01 pm When you die at the end of the day if you flip town I will certainly never make it to end game and I'm fine with that...but if you are gonna flip town you should be EXTREMELY interested in taking a wolf with you. If you are right about me or not is irrelevant for now...pick someone else to go with you...I will do my best to send them along.

I think it's extremely clear that I think you're a wolf and I'm trying to take you with me.

Hollowkatt is my next in line if you want to know that. Tentatively I'd say the stuff about being pocketed by Marmot signals that Marmot is town being pocketed by wolf HK (and intentionally placed in the same category as Tim to imply they're both town together) because I struggle to believe that HK is swayed that hard by a simple mind meld.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:58 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:53 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:52 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:49 pm [VOTE: Timsup2nothin] aubergine

Not unvoting until he's dead or I am. He pushed Mac so hard yesterday and the mafia acted to save him in the tie. Winner's bracket players have terrible takes on Tim.

Funny how they also acted to save you in that tie, but that isn't a subject you seem inclined to bring up.

You also don't seem inclined to bring up that you pushed Mac way harder than I did.

Why is that?

At the end of the day I offered an argument in his defense and unvoted him. That wasn't to your design so you kept pushing him anyway. The moment I dropped my Mac scumread you would have switched around on him if you were town. Instead you forced through his exe when I was asleep.

Half the game is scumreading me so I know why mafia left me alive. Why'd they leave you alive Tim?

If you are town they left us both alive to kill each other. If you are a wolf you left me alive because flipping me town would have left you without any leg to even try to stand on today.

If you are town the wolves just off you, disguise it as an SPK and let me be buried for casing you. That did not happen therefore you are mafia.

As far as I can tell hollowkatt has made nothing but anti-town pushes so either he's scum or hard scumsiding. Exe him after Tim.

Kyle/Marmot are coinflips tbh.

Wilgy/TSP are like slanker/filler slots, if the leads dry up then poke into there I guess but Tim and to a lesser extent HK need to be flipped right now.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:56 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:52 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:51 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:50 pm I'm inclined to use my other two votes to just flip the slankers (Wilgy/TSP) since I have good feelings to various degrees about everyone else but Tim is the only one I feel strongly about.

Preemptively going for slankers? Sweet!
[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Towntell if you don't want to get voted.

I have a request Alison.

With three chops it is almost certain that this day ends with you in the ground. If you are town a legacy of just OMGUSing everyone who votes you is not going to be any help for solving the game, because there is a very good chance, IMO, that literally every player is going to vote you here. For valid reasons.

So if you are town please just drop the "voting me, not honoring my reads, outed wolf" bit and be useful.

Here's a legacy for you.

EXECUTE TIM

Tim is hard outed and I've been saying it since yesterday and I pointed out that the game was way too willing to swallow the narrative that Mac and me had one scum. Nobody in the winner's bracket yesterday gave a fuck about Mac's legacy or realized that the person trying hardest to push that narrative was Tim. So now I'm thunderdoming him and never relenting.

I eagerly await Daisy's instalock vote on me because she can't understand why I am so confident.

Actually I've just realized that voting more than one person dilutes my vote so I'm going to a repeat of yesterday and only vote Tim.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:52 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:49 pm [VOTE: Timsup2nothin] aubergine

Not unvoting until he's dead or I am. He pushed Mac so hard yesterday and the mafia acted to save him in the tie. Winner's bracket players have terrible takes on Tim.

Funny how they also acted to save you in that tie, but that isn't a subject you seem inclined to bring up.

You also don't seem inclined to bring up that you pushed Mac way harder than I did.

Why is that?

At the end of the day I offered an argument in his defense and unvoted him. That wasn't to your design so you kept pushing him anyway. The moment I dropped my Mac scumread you would have switched around on him if you were town. Instead you forced through his exe when I was asleep.

Half the game is scumreading me so I know why mafia left me alive. Why'd they leave you alive Tim?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:51 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:50 pm I'm inclined to use my other two votes to just flip the slankers (Wilgy/TSP) since I have good feelings to various degrees about everyone else but Tim is the only one I feel strongly about.

Preemptively going for slankers? Sweet!
[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Towntell if you don't want to get voted.

I'm inclined to use my other two votes to just flip the slankers (Wilgy/TSP) since I have good feelings to various degrees about everyone else but Tim is the only one I feel strongly about.

[VOTE: Timsup2nothin] aubergine

Not unvoting until he's dead or I am. He pushed Mac so hard yesterday and the mafia acted to save him in the tie. Winner's bracket players have terrible takes on Tim.

[unvote]DaisyCloud[/unvote]

It probably is Tim but the question is who is he with. He has deliberately left no associatives in his ISO because he knew he was going to loser's.

You can have BBQs now? I can't even go out except for groceries or medical appointments

I'm not going to respond to you because I think it's terrible for thread health. Moreover I think you know it's terrible for thread health and are doing it on purpose.

A lot of the times when scum are caught for the wrong reasons they throw a temper tantrum and out themselves as wolf for completely different reasons. I don't think it's unusual.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:08 am LOLOLOLOL...gosh Alison, why would the whole game have swallowed that narrative whole? You think it was ME that sold it? Get a grip. This is the Syndicate. NO ONE here listens to me. You and Mac sold that. Now you are trying to reverse spin off of it without giving up the associative reads you made off of it back when it was the fixed point you were building your entire reads list on.

I'm currently making no reads based on associatives with scum Mac.

I am reconsidering the possibility that Mac is lockscum because of the fact that nobody has tried to challenge that narrative. Yes me and Mac sold it. If it is accurate then why did the mafia buy it without a hint of resistance. Is the question.

Let's consider a world where Mac is scum. Alison comes in and hard tunnels him. What do Mac's scum buddies do? Just go "yeah that makes sense to me, whack them both"? I think they'd at least put in some effort into challenging that dichotomy or trying to ensure Mac didn't get sent to loser's because it almost guarantees his execution. I am seeing no effort from any player in the game to do that. So if Mac is scum why aren't his scum buddies protecting him at all? Do you think MacDougall is the designated D1 bus and expendable wolf who is used to secure a free Alison misexe?

I don't buy it.

@MacDougall Talk to me about Daisy in a way that isn't just pointing at their derp clear wrt number of wolves in the game. What about their actual behavior do you think is townie or scummy and why.

Reading Poison/Made/TSP isos.

I came away from Poison with a slight scumlean. I'm not seeing much that is helping shed light on people's alignments and a lot of one liner responses to quotes that don't go anywhere. This is not out of Poison's townrange because she's very much a dynamic and high energy player who throws herself into the latest posts and just responds to every part of it regardless of "relevance". Nevertheless the bottom line is that the noise to signal ratio is poor.

I am fine with Made's ISO. Meta reads on DaisyCloud and Tim both seem genuine, especially as they are not that unlikely to be correct.

TSP is being TSP. He doubts there are 3 wolves, we know for a fact that there are. Could be a derp clear I guess but so many people have "derp cleared" based on setup stuff that I am not comfortable assigning too much weight to derp clear. Everything else seems within normal range for him, but I have admitted that I am a poor TSP reader. I would stick him at null, maybe a slight townlean since his reads seem to align with mine.

Of those three I would rather take Made out of the four-exe vote.

Mac is raising a good point that the entire game seems to have swallowed the "at least one between Mac and Alison" narrative whole. That might be an indicator he is town. I don't understand why he played the early game the way he did but he's giving me his vote for this bracket. That means that either:

1) he is the only scum in loser's
or
2) he is town

If he is scum with a teammate in this bracket he doesn't commit to sheeping me because I might find them. Especially if that teammate is Tim.

Let's start by assuming that my top scumread Tim is actually scum. Worst case scenario: he is the only one in loser's bracket, and two other teammates are in winner's. Then we are forced to go 1 scum exe, 3 town exe. We can't do better than that in the worst case scenario. So those 3 exes other than Tim should be: people who can be Tim's teammate and/or people who are less likely to be able to find the scum in winner's bracket.

Suppose I take MacDougall as town here on faith because of his leashing his vote to mine and the general crowd reaction to Mac/Alison one wolf narrative. I take Gavial to be town as well because he was obvwolf in Fallout and he's been relentlessly solving this game and even went as far as to analyze the winner's bracket. That's super townie behavior. That leaves. Poison/Made/TSP, I need to remove one name from this list, and then add the other two to Tim/Daisy to come up with my preferred four exes.

Conclusion is: [Daisy/Tim/two of [Poison, Made, TSP] is the correct vote. I want to see more from all three of them to make up my mind who to take out.

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:45 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:40 am I don't really have it in me to deal with stuff like this sorry.

dude. I'm sorry, okay? im so frustrated. it's no excuse. i should not have not tanted about certain people. I should not have assumed if someone dishes it out that they can take it. but she is so mean. I shouldn't have vented about u either.

If you think scumreading and pushing someone in a mafia game is mean then you will find that every game is filled with mean players. Nobody is obligated to treat you with kid gloves just because you don't like it when you get pushed or disagree with the reasons people have for pushing you. That's all I'm going to say on the subject. You can call it anti-town or jerkish behavior but applying pressure is a tried and tested method of identifying and burying scum.

Points in favor of Daisy being town: AtE + OMGUS seemed like a more extreme version of town Michelle. I have no doubt dunya is reading them town and screaming at me to change course from spec chat.

Points in favor of Daisy being scum: Tim associatives, weird inconsistency regarding her treatment of me.

@DaisyCloud Why assert that I'm here to "bash everyone" and then in the same post accuse me of having an unjustified townread of TSP?

Actually what the fuck is Tim going on regarding "star player" stuff? @Timsup2nothin

What do you mean "four out of the remaining six"?

I'm voting Daisy either way tbh. They are >rand wolf and I'm not a big fan of letting someone live if they're going to go on a rant about how the person accusing them is a hateful piece of shit every time they come under suspicion. It's poor for thread health at best.

lol if it's Daisy/Tim and Mac is town then Tim's play actually makes perfect sense. He is greedy to get Mac/Alison blasted into the sun N1 so he can run the game. He is not playing to his town meta at all tbh.

And Daisy's pleading to Mac about how he has never been brainwashed is not W/W behavior at all.

If Mac is right and me/Mac is V/V and scum are pushing the dichotomy then Tim is outed wolf because of his positioning around this issue.

If Mac is scum then Daisy is town because they aren't wolves together.

So one scum between Mac/Tim still I think.

Tim being hung up on me not having a strategy he thinks is optimal for the setup is pretty outing for him. I could see a world where it's Daisy/Tim and Daisy is really upset that Mac the townie has done the reversal.

The big question is why Daisy is overreacting this hard to a simple scumread (characterizing it as blind hate, telling me I want to murder everyone in the town when I only have 3 people I want to kill, etc.)

One possibility is that they are town and this is some extreme form of OMGUS. The other possibility is that they are scum and going all out to stop me because my solve is too close for comfort.

The problem I find is that Mac's approach to me and Daisy's approach to me doesn't make sense if they're scum together. So something is wrong there.

Gavial is actually lock town for trying to solve people in the other bracket

I struggle to believe that Tim believes Daisy is the town leader the game so desperately needs.

I want my scumreads in the four. The fourth can be me as a show of good faith if you'd like. That's all I want.

Oh I didn't even realize LC wasn't supposed to be posting though. Rest in peace.

Okay so LC is town, cool.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:06 pm Don't kill Tim, he's town!

I'm not convinced. You guys are too easily distracted by flashy theory posts.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:29 pm I believe Daisy is derp cleared.
I have no real thoughts on Tim. Been wolfy?

Explain.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:54 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:47 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:15 pm I do not trust Alison one bit in the LB. Perhaps I will learn to gloss over Alison’s bravado in time like I have for Mac, but I don’t trust anyone who talks all high and mighty of their skills. No one is a mafia god.

You are probably town because of the x and + thing but I think it's absurd that you came away from my ISO saying that I'm talking all high and mighty of my skills when I have not mentioned my skill level one time this entire game. The only thing I've done is inform you that I have a good read on Mac and that I am convinced Mac and Tim and Daisy are scum.

Alison, "I have identified all three wolves with a high degree of certainty with no flips based off a few posts" is sort of a high and mighty claim about your skills.

Given the current state of affairs, and without placing a burden on other players to just assume you are town and trust you, what do you think is the optimum strategy for an ordinary town person in the lower bracket? Long term. I mean, sure "identify the three wolves that are all on lower bracket, eliminate them, ez game" is a great strat, but requires some prerequisites that may not be available.

It's not really a claim about my skills. It's a claim about my level of confidence in my reads. If you want to interpret me pushing on my scumreads with high confidence as me saying that I'm a mafia god that's on you. Anyone who knows me knows that is not how I operate.

I think the best strategy for an ordinary town person in the lower bracket is to just treat lower bracket as essentially a mountainous game where you have 4 votes. Play it as normal, identify any other town that may exist within the bracket, identify your scumreads, vote them out.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:08 pm [VOTE: Alison] aubergine
[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine
[VOTE: Made] aubergine
[VOTE: Poison] aubergine

He votes literally everyone except Tim and Daisy.

Yeah they look pretty damn aligned from where I'm standing. Maybe it's scum Mac trying to desperation antispew, but either way we should get rid of him.

Tim going from "there's a wolf between Mac and Alison, and I'm leaning towards Alison" -> "Alison is 90% scum" is a puzzling progression, and I think a convenient one.

DaisyCloud is probably the one among the three least likely to be actually scum because despite their scummy behavior they have towntold a couple of times and they're in the position to be wrongly antispewed as scum due to being incorrectly linked to scum players. I still think they have legitimate wolf equity however, and they're probably a good exe just to clear things up on that front.

If I am wrong about my 3-person solve, the next candidates are probably Kylemii (for being really spooked about dropping into the loser's bracket) or hollowkatt (as far as I can tell they're just straight sussing all the people I think are town). I think it's weird that Marmot wanted so badly to go to loser's but ended up not going when anyone else who was pressured to go to loser's did. I don't know if that's AI for him, or in what direction, but it's a note I'm sticking here.

[VOTE: Tim] aubergine
[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine
[VOTE: DaisyCloud] aubergine

My strong town reads are Gavial, Moghedien, Falcon, G-Man. I am willing to put myself in the 4 as a show of good faith if it will convince any of you to put my scumreads in as well (Tim/Macdougall/DaisyCloud). If my scumreads don't pan out, fall back on my town reads. That's my legacy.

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:15 pm I do not trust Alison one bit in the LB. Perhaps I will learn to gloss over Alison’s bravado in time like I have for Mac, but I don’t trust anyone who talks all high and mighty of their skills. No one is a mafia god.

You are probably town because of the x and + thing but I think it's absurd that you came away from my ISO saying that I'm talking all high and mighty of my skills when I have not mentioned my skill level one time this entire game. The only thing I've done is inform you that I have a good read on Mac and that I am convinced Mac and Tim and Daisy are scum.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:25 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:19 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:12 pm I think anyone wanting to be in the second bracket is sus af

okay wait expand on this

makes sense to me anyways. bracket 2 is where the actual chopping happens. If you want to be in there getting your hands dirty, instead of sending all the wolfy people there to fight amongst themselves maybe you have an agenda

Yeah send the wolfy people and a bunch of unassertive townies, that'll definitely lead to Mac/Tim wolf being voted out and not at all to 4 town deaths.