The Syndicate

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:28 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:27 pm I am probably not gonna post much today because of real life stuff getting in the way. See you tomorrow.

I hope ur doing okay

Yeah I am. It's more like "wow I have three major assignment deadlines on Tuesday and Wednesday" than a serious personal issue.

I am probably not gonna post much today because of real life stuff getting in the way. See you tomorrow.

Also can you link me all the forum games you've played please?

Where did you learn the meaning of the slang phrase "LHF", mansnicks?

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:50 pm emoji scum tells here we go

ugh emoji

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My emoji scum tells are very serious business.

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:51 pm mansicks had a tonal shift after I called him out that I found interesting

he went from a tone of appeasement to antagonizing

I'd guess scum!mansnicks trying to be jokey and such in thread would continue that and not push me on page 2 just because I scum read him lightly

however I'm also a bit confused by the tonal shift regardless and will be thinking about it more

I read it as more defensive than antagonizing and think it's NAI

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:47 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:47 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:43 pm Alison what exactly is your read on mansnicks

My read is that trying to clear someone for knowing that the town are bees is something that you'd probably do if you were very new to FM, especially if you came from a site meta where "quote your role card" is a legitimate solving strategy (thinking of Among Us and naming common tasks, etc.). I think after 3 or 4 games there's no longer any question that you'd realize why it was wrong, especially since you'd be playing those games with other players and they'd instruct you that those strategies are incorrect.

Hence my comment that if mansnicks played 1-2 FM games in the past they're probably town and if they played more than a few FM games they're scum trying to fake the derptell behavior that probably got them townread in their first few games.

do you have anything to say about his posts since then?

Yes, my opinion is that their use of the emoji is scummy.

Also how do you know what LHF means but don't know that you can't use flavor claims to break the game?

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:43 pm Alison what exactly is your read on mansnicks

My read is that trying to clear someone for knowing that the town are bees is something that you'd probably do if you were very new to FM, especially if you came from a site meta where "quote your role card" is a legitimate solving strategy (thinking of Among Us and naming common tasks, etc.). I think after 3 or 4 games there's no longer any question that you'd realize why it was wrong, especially since you'd be playing those games with other players and they'd instruct you that those strategies are incorrect.

Hence my comment that if mansnicks played 1-2 FM games in the past they're probably town and if they played more than a few FM games they're scum trying to fake the derptell behavior that probably got them townread in their first few games.

My strongest townread is actually on c4 because he's a little skeptical of the mansnicks push but doesn't try to defend mansnicks. Skepticism = paranoia, no defense = no agenda (either way), and I think it's a flavor combination that's not trivial to fake.

If it was 1 or 2 games I'd lock you town.

Anything above 3 and I'd lock you mafia.

[VOTE: mansnicks] aubergine

How much experience do you have mansnicks?

mansnicks wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:00 pm Hi guys, I hardclaim Bee.
Also, c4e5g3d5 is a confirmed Bee because he claimed first and evils couldn't have know what the VTs are called.

I'm used to playing games where I can attempt to meta-read most of the players - really not sure how to play in a lobby full of strangers. xD

I'm all for the challange, but help a brother out and post your last 3 recent town and mafia games, ty. =)


Ok now to try and understand this site..


Ohh and also im playing another game on the side, it may or may not become relevant depending on how active this game will be.

How much experience do you have with mafia?

Hard claiming Gambee Beemon from Game of Champions 2020. It's a little modified from the original version but still keeps the spirit of it. Here's the basic rundown.

- I offer a permanent abeelity to someone at night. abilities are: sting, pollinate, buzz, flutter, breed, queen, building, and liking jazz

- If my offer is accepted, they gain the abeelity, but I can choose one of two options: either all pollen they obtain get redirected to me the next night OR all honey they make gets redirected to me the next day.

- I fulfil my win condition if the number of people who are in my hive with exceed the number of people who aren't.

I'm gonna offer the same deal that I proposed in GOC. Y'all come up with consensus bees and I'll offer abeelities to them. In exchange I get a free win, you get free pollen, everyone profits.

FAQ
- how do we know you aren't tricking us into some horrible fate???
take it on trust, host read that they aren't going to have a 3Bee nuke half the game in a purported mountainous setup, whatever. In GOC I proposed some tactics to guard against 3P betrayal, you can try those. Yes I know I was hostile 3Bee that game but my tactics were legit.

- what if the mafia soupkills you???
as a bee I have the ability to fly out of soup.

- how do we know you're not mafia pretending to be a 3P???
my plan is pretty clearly laid out to give me a free win while also helping the town out. I fully intend to have "auto" from post 1 and will be putting in close to 0 effort to solve or influence the game from this point on. It doesn't make much strategical sense for me to do that if I'm mafia, especially since it will become too obvious that I'm lying about being 3Bee as the game goes on.

- how do we know you won't kill everyone after you win like the original Gambit Demon did???
Alison killed the game because she was evil and wanted to win. I am not evil. Killing everyone after the town gave me my win is pointless. I have already gotten my win; putting in extra effort is not only meaningless, it actively compromises my ability to make further deals in this vein when I roll 3Bee in the future. It's strictly suboptimal to do that, so you can be pretty sure I won't do it.

make sure to @ me if you want to tell me who your consensus town is or have any questions/comments, since I won't be reading the thread closely.