The Syndicate

I agree MR is a better exe than Rondo right now.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:30 am
Made wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:27 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:06 am
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Made wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:57 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:25 pm also @RondoDimBuckle while we're vibing waiting for the flip. Where are you at on me?

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:53 pm
112 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:52 pm when is nightfall? busy for like 30 mins and then should have time to be in the thread for a while
7 minutes

Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:53 pm
112 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:52 pm when is nightfall? busy for like 30 mins and then should have time to be in the thread for a while
7 minutes lol

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:53 pm
112 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:52 pm when is nightfall? busy for like 30 mins and then should have time to be in the thread for a while
7 min

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:53 pm
112 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:52 pm when is nightfall? busy for like 30 mins and then should have time to be in the thread for a while
7 minutes

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:54 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:53 pm
112 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:52 pm when is nightfall? busy for like 30 mins and then should have time to be in the thread for a while
7 min
jynx

Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:55 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:54 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:53 pm
7 min
jynx
@RondoDimBuckle answer my question nerd :P

why are you voting me?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:55 pm [VOTE: rondo ] aubergine

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:56 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:55 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:54 pm

jynx
@RondoDimBuckle answer my question nerd :P

why are you voting me?
that wasnt your question, your question was my reads, which Ive already given so you could have gone back and read them.

why I am voting you because Scotty and Mac who are both confirmed town want you
@RondoDimBuckle
this is not a good look for you
My favorite was the response to this by nook:
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:57 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:57 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:56 pm
Made wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:55 pm

@RondoDimBuckle answer my question nerd :P

why are you voting me?
that wasnt your question, your question was my reads, which Ive already given so you could have gone back and read them.

why I am voting you because Scotty and Mac who are both confirmed town want you
This is a terrible reason
What no thats a good reason

This is a good take. I still think Rondo is the best way for today
the problem is you are wrong. MR has a possible scum slip and Wiggly has a cop check on me. So there are two other people worth looking at over me so far. If you resolve MR's scum as not a scum slip you still have Wiggly calling me not harmful. So either he is my wolf buddy trying to save me or I am actually town like I claim

The problem is that Wilgy can be town and you can be Godfather. Or he was misdirected. Or you're 3P. Yadda yadda.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:19 am Alison:
To be fair, Rondo does do that either way. His contrarianism is NAI.

Then he is a liability to town when he rolls town and an easy catch when he rolls scum.

By the way I checked with the mod and he said that if a poisoner targeted me the ability would bounce, but it wouldn't poison them. So Michelle poisoning Mac N1 theory is shot.

And she is super town anyway.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:16 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:10 am [VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

If there is a possibility kill was blocked by Urist and not Ender then Wilgy is no longer damned. Especially since 112 also claimed a block. 50% to 33% is a big jump. Still think he has been playing sus and he remains in my POE. We will leash him and force him to give us results every day. If the results are ever proven wrong we turbo him.

Rondo is pseudo green checked but is ridiculously anti town and scummy on play, and with the existence of 3Ps, redirectors and Godfathers we cannot trust it at all. He remains in the POE.

tutuu's posting has been acceptable but not send me to the moon townie and I respect koba's reads enough to keep her in the POE as well.

I liked Made's case on BoSyn and they flaked after a bad turn of events for mafia. Also POE.

These are my main suspects.
who did urist target?
who did 112 target?

Urist doctored Scotty. 112 no clain.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:14 am
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Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:51 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:36 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:07 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:23 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:03 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:40 am

That actually…makes sense from mafia perspective, to dodge the doc, factional kill someone else, and poison the IC. The rebound is clear.

Good conjecture, tutuu!

Ok so I’m currently at : Wilgy, Michelle, Rondo, MR.
there’s probably 1-2 more but that’s a good place to start
In the hypothetically idea i would be in a scum team with these folks, i wouldn't suspect/quoestion Wilgy, Rondo and Mr. R.
You can bring up distancing activities, but this is too much of a strech and you should not keep the suspicion on me before asking me about my claimed actions, and make me claim my role
I claimed i targeted N1 tutuu and N2 Mr R and i don't see anyone asking me why, and with what action.
Town is not focused on me that much and scum is not role fishing.
That means for me that scum knows about my role by one of my targets and i believe MrR is the one, because shows disinterest in interactions with me.
I would full claim if necessary.
LOL, this whole game when you have been typing Mr R. I thought you meant me. Now I realise you mean Radish
Is this the reason you complained about my tunnel?

Now can you answer my last question please?
What read do you have for me and why?
I read you as mostly town mainly because you are solvy, you are a bit abrasive and demanding but whatever. I have seen a few good posts I like. However when I put my tinfoil hat on the explination Tutuu said about you hitting Mac with poison and having it bounce back on you does give me pause on that possibility you are scum or 3p. Scotty said earlier we are being manipulated by some top posting as well and I know its not me, it cant be scotty or mac/alison. You are a pretty high poster so it could also mean you are scum. But I still read you as town after all that for now. Day 4 I was going to do some actual reads since I cant coast by anymore letting mac win the game.
Is this a perspective slip, how do you know you'll be alive next day?

And if you think i am town why don't you cooperate with me if you are villager like you pretend?

I dont like cooperating with people who demand it

What kind of townie acts like this?

Answer: one who either doesn't care about winning, or one who isn't a townie at all.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:01 am
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:15 pm My new roommates are really fervent hockey fans. They support the Toronto Maple Leafs and when the season starts they are gonna drag a TV into the dorm and make me watch games with them.

@falcon45ca @BoKnows @Master Radishes I know you guys told me not to support the Leafs but I have to now.

They are also into baseball and support the Blue Jays. But I told them I'm not watching baseball because it's a shit game.
As long as hockey gets another fan, I'll accept this. I'm a born Calgarian, but spent my formative years in Victoria, so I understand...but ya dance with the one that brung ya, no fair weather fan bullshit!

You made your bed, you lay in it

I don't support teams based on whether they win or lose. That's silly. Then I'd have to support a new team every season.

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

If there is a possibility kill was blocked by Urist and not Ender then Wilgy is no longer damned. Especially since 112 also claimed a block. 50% to 33% is a big jump. Still think he has been playing sus and he remains in my POE. We will leash him and force him to give us results every day. If the results are ever proven wrong we turbo him.

Rondo is pseudo green checked but is ridiculously anti town and scummy on play, and with the existence of 3Ps, redirectors and Godfathers we cannot trust it at all. He remains in the POE.

tutuu's posting has been acceptable but not send me to the moon townie and I respect koba's reads enough to keep her in the POE as well.

I liked Made's case on BoSyn and they flaked after a bad turn of events for mafia. Also POE.

These are my main suspects.

Okay cool. Then we will vote you off.

This is really not a townie mindset.

wow Mac predicted that I would vote a blatantly anti town player who isn't even pretending to try to solve.

Amazing predictions.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:11 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:02 am Stop acting like you're entitled to being townread. You have objectively made bad and anti town votes. By your own admission you have not contributed much because you were working. You self vote during a tight EOD, act like a jester, and screw around. The person who knows you the most in this game, who is almost certainly town, has called you out as suspect.

You have no right to complain that people are tunnelling you when you haven't made any effort to be townie. Now, if you're scum, continue being a clown and we will get around to mopping you up eventually. If you are town, try making some cases, explaining your reads, engaging with people and otherwise making a good faith attempt to show your alignment and take yourself out of the POE.
I have made the exact votes Mac has made, if they are bad and anti town dont look at me

You voted yourself at EOD then voted me the next day. I don't recall Mac doing that.

Mac gives no reasoning for clearing you here other than volume. He has made posts saying his "emotional" read on you is likely to be wrong. He suggests that Ender can read you best and Ender has been negative on you. The Mac townread is ill-explained and not even that confident (7/10 town is barely above rand if that, "Alison is probably right to keep burying Rondo here and I am probably wrong"). I award you no points for it.

I note that MR has returned to the thread and done nothing.

Stop acting like you're entitled to being townread. You have objectively made bad and anti town votes. By your own admission you have not contributed much because you were working. You self vote during a tight EOD, act like a jester, and screw around. The person who knows you the most in this game, who is almost certainly town, has called you out as suspect.

You have no right to complain that people are tunnelling you when you haven't made any effort to be townie. Now, if you're scum, continue being a clown and we will get around to mopping you up eventually. If you are town, try making some cases, explaining your reads, engaging with people and otherwise making a good faith attempt to show your alignment and take yourself out of the POE.

Speaking of legacies of strong town players. What did dyachei say about the game before they died? I can't imagine them going quietly.

Dkkoba went into their grave screaming for tutuu's head. You all may find it fun to ignore the legacies of strong town players but I don't. She is in my POE and I intend to resolve her soon after I untangle this mech fiesta.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:49 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:38 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:02 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:58 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:52 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:50 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:45 am

You keep posting things with double meaning
Do you mean double entendre? Because no
I know what i say and i maintain my suspicion
well that makes one of us
Say it again please, explain like i am 5
thats what I am asking you to do
The sentence i coloured in your post is a lie
You pretend/imply tutuu caught me like this is a real thing, when in fact is just a narrative you are pushing.
Someone who reads this post and can't search in tutuu's Iso what she said will beleve you.
Otoh, if you are confronted with her posts you can say that's your take and that's it.
You present me as 'caught' being a thing tutuu was doing, instead suspecting me openly and force a read by interaction.
What's your read on me?

I had the same thought.

Michelle is definitely town whoever suspects her should stop.

Mech is weird. Maybe should keep Wilgy alive. But if Godfather is around not sure what's the use. If not Wilgy then Rondo.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:24 am Why is the Center for Disease Control here?

Bo's homesite. MR, falcon, 112 are from there.

They read each other well. Therefore I want their opinions.

Have the CDCers said anything about Bo? They're good at reading him iirc.

Wilgy, Rondo, Radishes, tutuu, BoSyn, Ruri

Is my POE. Unordered.

Nanook's posting today seems ok so he gets a day pass.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:18 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:17 am If I couldn't vote out Wilgy I'd vote out Rondo.
If we vote out anyone there it's Wilgy.

Wilgy green clears Rondo

Not from 3P and Rondo is kinda acting like a 3P right now lol.

If I couldn't vote out Wilgy I'd vote out Rondo.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:17 am [VOTE: michelle ] aubergine

Extremely sus vote.

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:15 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:13 am The other thing is that everyone has very complex, intricate abilities. Nobody has an ability that's just "you do this. The end."

Even simple roles like Urist's doctor role are carried out in weird ways like blocking the killer instead of healing the target. (Important for tracks, watches, BGs, lots of stuff.) My IC role has an additional component to it as well.

I dunno. Lots of stuff doesn't add up about this cop claim.
For clarity's sake, that was a joke. I'm just a doctor, no bells or whistles.

Ok. Interesting.

I retract that point then.

(Also don't make jokes about stuff when we're trying to hash out mech.)

Eh there's still poison I guess. But no, mafia poisoner can die and then it degenerates. JPIC isn't that bad at balance.

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:13 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:08 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:06 am
Ruri wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:05 am On my homesite, a doctor and cop in the setup was standard. Any other roles were complementary. IC and desperado can townfirm, but desperado exchanges for a townfirm. In a way, a cop doesn't make much sense with this many townfirms available. But, I'm also not familiar with how this site balances things.

My homesite may have been unbalanced though, considering town always had night talks.
Doctor + Cop is a very very uncommon role combination on the Syndicate, for both balancing and cultural reasons.
There's usually a no double targeting rule that makes that combination feasible, so I wouldn't go down that rabbit hole.
I can consec target fwiw

If Urist is telling the truth and can consec target there's no way in hell Wilgy is cop lol.

Michelle seems townie on play to me. I wouldn't investigate conspiracy theories like her poisoning herself until I see something that merits it.

The other thing is that everyone has very complex, intricate abilities. Nobody has an ability that's just "you do this. The end."

Even simple roles like Urist's doctor role are carried out in weird ways like blocking the killer instead of healing the target. (Important for tracks, watches, BGs, lots of stuff.) My IC role has an additional component to it as well.

I dunno. Lots of stuff doesn't add up about this cop claim.

I am an IC. Poison is some sort of investigative role that can perceive what's going on with night actions. ted always green checks at least one person with his shot (himself or his target).

You don't think there's too many ways to clear people if we also add a straightup cop into the mix?

Ruri wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:05 am On my homesite, a doctor and cop in the setup was standard. Any other roles were complementary. IC and desperado can townfirm, but desperado exchanges for a townfirm. In a way, a cop doesn't make much sense with this many townfirms available. But, I'm also not familiar with how this site balances things.

My homesite may have been unbalanced though, considering town always had night talks.

Doctor + Cop is a very very uncommon role combination on the Syndicate, for both balancing and cultural reasons.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:04 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:04 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:00 am Urist claimed doctor.

You think there's a doctor and a cop in the same setup? Plus all the other shit town has?
Urist was jank ass vote manipulation right?
Urist hardclaimed doctor.

The claim is believable.

Kind of, anyway. But still. Hardclaim doctor, plus all the shit we know exists and all the other claims on the table... a claimed cop is hard to believe.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:04 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:00 am Urist claimed doctor.

You think there's a doctor and a cop in the same setup? Plus all the other shit town has?
Urist was jank ass vote manipulation right?

Urist hardclaimed doctor.

The claim is believable.

Urist claimed doctor.

You think there's a doctor and a cop in the same setup? Plus all the other shit town has?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:55 pm Like actually,

"These two died before Wilgy and Wilgy is normally the misyeet, so he must be scum."

"Wilgy stopped posting when the heat got turned up on him" sorry I had to go help the fiance.

"Wilgy's claim (with no counter) when he was put under the barrel is likely to be a scum claim without any evidence or context otherwise outside this happens."

This is all so silly. What happened to you Alison? If you weren't wearing Mac's corpse I'd be calling you a wolf rn.

Ender has claimed that his action might have stopped you from making a kill as wolf.

Cop is unlikely with what we know about the setup. I forgot to add that town also has a tree stump. There is simply too much town power, and the roles are too odd and intricate, for a plain cop to be a likely claim.

I don't believe Wilgy is a cop btw.

Town is now confirmed to have: an IC, a roleblocker, and a desperado.

Town has claimed: dayvig, doctor, and whatever Ender is, and whatever Poison is.

I don't think it also has a cop. And all of those claims are more believable than Wilgy's. And cop is what you claim when you're mech outed as scum.

Both Ender and Poison are clearly town so let's just vote out Wilgy.

Ok so the claims mess is sorted. No need for full claim.

Ruri wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:31 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:29 pm All of you fullclaim

I don't care if we all get souped

I'm willing to die to that because we lose anyway if you guys create a clown fiesta of mech.
Me?

Talking about the people in the claims mess.

All of you fullclaim

I don't care if we all get souped

I'm willing to die to that because we lose anyway if you guys create a clown fiesta of mech.

Wilgy is still 50% to be mafia if we assume Ender and 112's rolestops each have a 50% chance of being the one that did the stopping. 50% is >>rand.

And his posts are bad. So I am gonna vote him. That's all for now.

I got yelled at by my gf for abandoning her during her birthday to play a forum game for nerds lol.

Gonna go be with her for real for at least a few hours, bye now.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:31 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:28 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:27 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:26 pm IF EPI ISNT MOD KILLED RIGHT NOW FOR BREAKING THE FORUM RULES ABOUT NO EDITING I WILL BE SO MAD /sarcasm
Mod said not to discuss modkills
You should be modkilled immediately for this dire infraction imho
bring it on

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:28 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:27 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:26 pm IF EPI ISNT MOD KILLED RIGHT NOW FOR BREAKING THE FORUM RULES ABOUT NO EDITING I WILL BE SO MAD /sarcasm
Mod said not to discuss modkills
You should be modkilled immediately for this dire infraction imho
also you're discussing mod kills by discussing my discussion of mods kills so you should be mod killed for this imho
This exchange looks like horseshit.

think it's NAI ftr

There's a baseline 50% chance that he's mafia anyway and his posting since the initial claim has not done much to inspire confidence that he is anything other than a red checked mafia.

I feel like Wilgy just suddenly stopping his posting mid catch up right when he got to the point that Ender said he was mafia sort of means he's actually outed regardless.

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:21 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:15 pm My new roommates are really fervent hockey fans. They support the Toronto Maple Leafs and when the season starts they are gonna drag a TV into the dorm and make me watch games with them.

@falcon45ca @BoKnows @Master Radishes I know you guys told me not to support the Leafs but I have to now.

They are also into baseball and support the Blue Jays. But I told them I'm not watching baseball because it's a shit game.
That's unfortunate.
On the plus side, once the playoffs start you won't have to watch games anymore.

They told me that if I hear them crying in their rooms it's normal and not to bother them.

"Timestamp reads are townie." - Confucius

I respect Epi enough that I won't lock him town for it but it is a point in his favor. That he cleared Michelle despite her being potentially misexeable is also a good look.

My new roommates are really fervent hockey fans. They support the Toronto Maple Leafs and when the season starts they are gonna drag a TV into the dorm and make me watch games with them.

@falcon45ca @BoKnows @Master Radishes I know you guys told me not to support the Leafs but I have to now.

They are also into baseball and support the Blue Jays. But I told them I'm not watching baseball because it's a shit game.

Talk to me about MR?

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