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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
[VOTE:
Kylemii] aubergine
- Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:25 am
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
Good luck, we've been trying to get him to make a coherent case for the past 4 DPs
- Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:22 am
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
They're content to let me be because I'm mech confirmed to not be enclave, that's why
There's a conspiracy theory that I'm 3P but most people have accepted that I'm either just town or should be treated as town so the mafia can sort me out
- Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:50 am
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
My opinion is that LC is town
- Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:43 am
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
Why would i protect people if im slaverChopChop wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:38 amDoctor protected target huh.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:33 amI don't know if sloon was VC or enclave kill because both factions had a reason to kill him.
If your theory that syn is frank horrigan is correct then kza was the enclave kill and sloon was shot by VC.
The missing kill could also have easily gone into a doctor protected target, or, gasp! The actual slaver.
You stop a kill with your Slaver abilities?
Maybe Vault City yourself, protected Mac’s prime target to kill.
It is mech impossible for me to be VC, host has confirmed that mac was the last VC
- Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:42 am
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
He wouldnt claim scum hed aim town rolecop. Falcon was JJJ which was not anti slaver but was anti new reno. So people questioned why he seemed to care so much about slaver. I'm pretty sure he was just trying to get me killed because I'm new reno.ChopChop wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:35 amAlison wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:31 amRed check is slang for "I have evidence that Alison isn't town".
If Mac thought I was slaver and his plan was to shoot me to death over two nights (one to break vest, one to make the actual kill) he would start N2, the night after the Falcon stuff. The missing kill would therefore be on N2 and not N3.
If Mac thought I was slaver and his plan was to get me exed by town he'd have outed a check of me as multiple in thread.
Neither things happened.
You're talking about how falcon was ignored but neglecting that falcon was widely distrusted for having a role claim that made no sense and his flipped faction has no reason to kill slaver ad every reason to kill new reno
And why exactly would he hard claim scum and claim Multiple on you just to yeet his rival so he could be yeeted after?
No reason to kill Slaver? I’d have to double check but I’m pretty sure they are against Slaver as well.
Also again, if you think Mac shot Sloon, where’s the missing Enclave kill?
reiterating, missing enclave kill could have gone into actual slaver or doctored. Or the missing enclave kill was KZA and syn was enclave.
- Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:34 am
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- Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:33 am
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
I don't know if sloon was VC or enclave kill because both factions had a reason to kill him.
If your theory that syn is frank horrigan is correct then kza was the enclave kill and sloon was shot by VC.
The missing kill could also have easily gone into a doctor protected target, or, gasp! The actual slaver.
- Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:31 am
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
Red check is slang for "I have evidence that Alison isn't town".
If Mac thought I was slaver and his plan was to shoot me to death over two nights (one to break vest, one to make the actual kill) he would start N2, the night after the Falcon stuff. The missing kill would therefore be on N2 and not N3.
If Mac thought I was slaver and his plan was to get me exed by town he'd have outed a check of me as multiple in thread.
Neither things happened.
You're talking about how falcon was ignored but neglecting that falcon was widely distrusted for having a role claim that made no sense and his flipped faction has no reason to kill slaver ad every reason to kill new reno
- Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:28 am
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
Martin led the charge because of the mac/epi stuff
- Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:26 am
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
Also why are you assuming Sloon was an enclave kill again
- Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:25 am
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
Mac wouldn't check + shoot. If Mac checked me he'd claim a red check on me in thread because of the vest. If Mac blind shot me to test my claim he'd do it on N2 after I claimed Elridge, not N3.
- Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:23 am
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
If you get green checked and flip a mafia I'll sheep you any dayLong Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:21 amWell, let's hope I get green-checked, then you'll believe my suspicions are infallible. I don't recognize this Alison.Alison wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:06 amMartin is lock town. Sheeping him is afaict the optimal move.
I play according to what's optimal not what fuels my ego. I tried my hand at finding mafia, and it didn't work. So I'm going to follow the guy who buried Mac six feet deep.
- Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:21 am
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
What is your reason for suspecting Poison slot again
- Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:18 am
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
Because he's my enemy. Read the setup
- Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:17 am
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
But also if my plan is to win with Tony why would I be calling out his accusation of me as suspicious
- Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:16 am
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- Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:11 am
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
who did you try to shoot
- Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:06 am
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- Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:59 am
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
I'm just here to provide an additional perspective and extra vote but you're confirmed town to me in three different ways and clearly have a good read on the game so
- Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:58 am
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
I am sheeping you no matter what this day phase tbh.
- Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:52 am
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
Tony might legit be enclave and chop was our messiah all along but we refused to hear him because he spoke the truth
- Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:51 am
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- Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:48 am
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
There's no harm to it. If he's scum he might have been pressured into claiming outside of his viable fakeclaims.MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:46 amNot sure if flavor is relevant here since setup does specify "Viable" fake-claims.
Regardless though, LC seems somewhat suspicious based on the Grogu vote and his claim. If he's enclave though I wonder if he's not w/w with Marmot given my past question of him and his really short answer.
I will need to dive deeper later though onto other players for whom I haven't re-read recently. GTH LC as scum and not w/w with Marmot would be interesting and I wonder if that causes a problem for my reads (such as having too many town-reads and thus the bar should be higher).
- Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:32 pm
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
Oh so you are hardclaiming VT.
What's your flavor?
- Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:28 pm
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- Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:27 pm
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
Seeing how people respond to pressure is telling. Not even you yourself responding to pressure - if you're scum maybe your partners panic and try to start a counter wagon, or some such.Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:26 pmYou guys are willing to just slap-vote me because the all-powerful Epignosis deigned to notice me enough to flick a booger of a vote at me?Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:24 pmDid you claim your role and I didn't see or what?
I'm just pressing buttons. I am fairly sure Epi is town so I'm sheeping him. I'll probably sheep Martin more when he gets here.
That's unforgivably lazy for a player of your caliber. At least pretend to wait for him to make a case or something.
I'm not obligated to lock my vote in on you until EOD. Why should I be a miser with it?
- Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:24 pm
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Did you claim your role and I didn't see or what?
I'm just pressing buttons. I am fairly sure Epi is town so I'm sheeping him. I'll probably sheep Martin more when he gets here.
- Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:14 pm
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
I only outed Epi's role to people who already figured it out.
- Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:07 pm
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
If you mean Epi then yes, I am pretty sure I know what his role is. It's why I'm following his vote.
- Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:03 pm
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
someone give me a one shot silencer so I can use it in a pro town way
- Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:02 pm
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
towny mind meldUrist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:01 pmhe would have received "fatal" for eldridge and "multiple" for the slaver.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:59 pm Mac would not have been able to differentiate between the claims he was not a role cop that could
- Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:01 pm
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He could differentiate. He'd see Fatal on Elridge and Multiple on any Slaver.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:59 pm Mac would not have been able to differentiate between the claims he was not a role cop that could
- Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:57 pm
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
The last time someone said "let's all work together to ensure that everyone can win" in a game of mafia it went badly.
- Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:50 pm
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
I'm pretty sure I know what role Epi is.
- Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:49 pm
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
[VOTE:
Long Con] aubergine
- Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:42 pm
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
by the way remember when we thought esooa spewed rej as her buddy and mac as unaligned
- Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:38 pm
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- Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:32 pm
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
Then, you know, do that? Instead of shitting up the thread with the same bad tunnel you've held 3 day phases in a row?
Legitimately you're probably town at this point and the mafia are saving you from the noose because you're majorly impacting thread health every time you open your mouth.
- Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:27 pm
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
that isn't what the word sheep means
- Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:27 pm
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
that isn't how mafia works
- Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:24 pm
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
If I am Slaver and Mac is Vault City with an objective to kill me, and he doesn't think he can get me exed, he shoots me dead at night, like everyone has been assuming VC would do.
You are going to enormous lengths to justify your crap tunnel on me. I suggest you shut the hell up, use your faction spy power on me tonight and start prewriting your "I was wrong about Alison but TSP is still WOOOOOLF" post D6.
You are going to enormous lengths to justify your crap tunnel on me. I suggest you shut the hell up, use your faction spy power on me tonight and start prewriting your "I was wrong about Alison but TSP is still WOOOOOLF" post D6.
- Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:22 pm
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- Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:21 pm
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
"Alison is too obviously mafia to be mafia, I'll leave her alone" -> not something that Mac would ever think or do.
- Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:20 pm
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 4]
There is 0 chance Mac does this given his role. I know Mac very well, I have wolfed with him, hydra'd with him, and fooled him as wolf. I tell you now there is no chance in hell he failed to rolecop me because he needs to know if I am Slaver or Elridge so he can play around me and if I am Slaver he would want me dead as soon as humanly possible. Every time we have played in the same games together he has gone to great lengths to ensure I am not a threat to him. Others on the Syndicate can confirm this.
- Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:19 pm
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 5]
No clue. I lost the thread because everyone is scummy because the game has reached the point where town are actively incentivized to kill other town.
So I just sheeped my biggest townread and someone who I think is the same faction as me. And we hit mafia.
- Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:16 pm
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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 4]
If he thought I was so obviously Slaver why wouldn't he bury me?ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:14 pmOrrrrrrrAlison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:12 pm 1) Mac has a role cop.
2) Vault City needs to get rid of Slaver to win.
3) Mac almost certainly role copped me.
4) If he copped me Slaver he would simply use his town rolecop safe claim and say he copped me as Slaver for a free kill to an enemy + towncred.
People were wondering why Vault City has not killed me since I'm claimed Elridge and this is why.
He copped someone else because he thought you were too obvious?
He's made 0 attempts to get me exed. If I am the Slaver and Mac knows it, all he has to do is say "I am the role cop. I checked Alison and she is Slaver", I get exed, flip Slaver, and he basks in the adoration of the game while getting rid of his faction's enemy for free. He even has a doctor ability to protect himself if the Enclave shoots him for claiming role cop.
Remember the Vault City needs the Slaver dead to win and the Slaver is trying to kill Vault City. Everything about Mac's actions have spewed me as someone that is not a threat to him.