The Syndicate

Camilla wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 10:59 am @Alison

Can you reiterate your read on Pyxxy and tell me how confident you are on him?

I liked his interactions with Porscha but at the same time individually he kind of doesn't really have anything that's villagery in isolation.

I think he's reasonably solid town. His EOD didn't feel partnered with Porscha and I thought he was townie before then.

I think Roxy's recent posting is townie.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 11:14 pm Yea im just tunneled on roxy pyxxy and i know ill be confbiased until one if them flips or another wolf flips so my gameplay is probably done for this day phase just nothing more to say other than repeat stuff if ppl ask

I'd go for Roxy over pyxxy. I liked his EOD and I liked him before that.
[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 10:53 pm @Alison i think u could apply a similar reason to townread woogers as ur doing to townread me. His vote was needed to kill porscha. He claimed no personal cred, he hasnt read or said anything, just dipped

That's kinda fair actually, I would expect him to try to lay more claim to the pelt if his plan was to bus a partner D1 and then go afk.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 10:32 pm @Alison @Camilla rondo's last 2 posts as of this post make him town, u agree?

No.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 8:34 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 8:24 pm Confident town group: tutuu, Prince J, pyxxy

POE: Wilgy, Falcon, Roxy, Rondo

Solving with the first group and voting in the second.

Explain that POE plz

I did, in my post going over my read on every living player

Confident town group: tutuu, Prince J, pyxxy

POE: Wilgy, Falcon, Roxy, Rondo

Solving with the first group and voting in the second.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 8:19 pm rondo + roxy or rondo + pyxxy imo. everyone else town incarnate, for me

Wilgy and Falcon are not town incarnate lol

Camilla wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 8:14 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 8:11 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 8:09 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 6:22 pm

Camilla wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 6:19 pm Plus, needlessy bussing when there's both a Doc and a Cop alive is... lulzy.

yeah i had this thought too 5 min ago but decided no need to voice it; i dont think alison needlessly/proactively busses and leaves herself 2v9 vs cop and doc, she knows a thing or two about wolfing

The actual strongest reason I am spewed town is because Porscha had a massive copium post about my vote on her just being pressure and it'll be taken off any second now and then I leave the thread with my vote parked on her entering EOD and she dies.

LMFAO @ copium ur funny asf

also yeah actually i agree, it crossed my mind for a little yesterday that porscha saying that ur scumread on her is a reaction test is a thing wolves seem to do a lot, ive seen it, ive done it before when i was a freshly newborn pup

Tbfh, V!Porscha generally gets quite sassy when she's pushed and it's why I was questioning her about Alison's vote on her as her entire "oh Alison's just fucking around" attitude really felt unlike her.

Like, Alison/Porscha's kind of not really a possible team at this point.

I just realized that the "it's just a pressure vote" line was super outing for Porscha and we should have turbo'd her when she said that, because in KOTH when she was V and I pushed her she immediately freaked out and got incredibly sassy + assumed malice on my part.

Going to eat breakfast. Here's where I'm at.

~Prince J~ - sheeping tutuu's read that he wouldn't abandon the game if he was wolves with Porscha. I think it makes sense.

Camilla - To be honest Camilla has done nothing townie. But if she is Alice Liddell I feel like she would have more impact on the game when everything was going sideways for mafia D1 since one of Alice's best mafia skills is the ability to scream in all caps at people. Thin read but it keeps her out of the POE for now

DrWilgy - Hasn't done anything. POE.

falcon45ca - Hasn't done anything. POE. Also I usually find him as town confidently and haven't here... but I said the same thing about Seanzie so maybe this game is just weird.

pyxxy - Looks pretty town both from EOD and in general.

RondoDimBuckle - Hasn't done anything. Ridiculous vote. POE.

Roxy - I scumread her D1 and her limp vote on Porscha wasn't enough for me to change my mind. POE.

Scotty - I townread him D1 and his vote on pyxxy wasn't enough for me to change my mind.

tutuu - Probably the towniest player in the game. Manages to perfectly influence other players into voting out Porscha while ensuring she gets very little credit for the kill herself by flip flopping on her ineffectually at the last minute... no idea what tutuu's' agenda is if she's mafia.

Zenon - I think the reasons to clear Zenon are ridiculous but I'm going to sheep Camilla/tutuu's strong townread on this slot for today. If Zenon is mafia she'll have a partner anyway so we can just look for that one instead of going back and forth about her.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 6:22 pm

Camilla wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 6:19 pm Plus, needlessy bussing when there's both a Doc and a Cop alive is... lulzy.

yeah i had this thought too 5 min ago but decided no need to voice it; i dont think alison needlessly/proactively busses and leaves herself 2v9 vs cop and doc, she knows a thing or two about wolfing

The actual strongest reason I am spewed town is because Porscha had a massive copium post about my vote on her just being pressure and it'll be taken off any second now and then I leave the thread with my vote parked on her entering EOD and she dies.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 6:21 pm We kill pyxxy today. Resolve

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

Camilla wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 5:50 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 5:47 pm i would like to point out that in last game porscha wolfed in here (i hosted it, the one i linked to alison earlier) - she was mafia with pyxxy and zenon, and all 3 heavily relied on bussing. they did it way too much imo

also pyxxy did some wild stuff with lack of self preservation in an attempt to bring chaos

This is kind of why I'm locktowning Zenon.

She never hard-defends a wolf-partners like Porscha like this.

Pyxxy I feel like he'd be trying to look unaligned with Porscha in this thread-state rather than just awkwardly try to shift the wagon to someone who's not a viable elim than this so I kind of would always kill Falco/Rondo/Roxy/Maybe J or Wigly before him, tbh.

This is an absurd defense. If Zenon is wolf partners with Porscha and an afk like Rondo or Wilgy what else is she supposed to do? Just let Porscha die and try to 1v9 the game?

tutuu talked me out of having Porscha wrongly cleared and was the impetus for making me vote her. I also think tutuu would have been able to force pyxxy to be killed over Porscha if she was mafia with the intention of powerwolfing yesterday. I think she's clear.

Zenon wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 7:58 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 7:57 pm [VOTE: Zenon] aubergine

Dis vote berry badge

I believe that the way that EOD went down looks pretty good for pyxxy (even ignoring the fact that I had him as townread beforehand).

So right now I believe that you spent the entirety of EOD screaming for a town to be killed over a mafia.

Why is my vote bad?

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 10:30 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 9:48 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 9:46 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 7:44 pm I have not reviewed the linked game in detail but if it is true that Porscha is no longer volume polarized then it she is actually kind of scummy... the noise to signal ratio is really bad

it isn't my fault that half the people who signed up aren't playing and the other half are actually roleplaying the title of the game.

Who do you think is mafia?

I dont care if pyxxy dies the most but until wilgy / camilla / falcon make any real posts it's hard to sort the people who are posting

This post is VERY weird in hindsight because it deliberately leaves off Rondo and Prince J, both of whom haven't made real posts at the time of this writing. I wonder if Porscha was genuinely upset about an afk teammate and it came out here but she didn't want to draw attention to them as a lurker.

In general I suspect the mafia were very much not in control yesterday since we did fucking nothing all day and nobody had any clue what was going on but we bagged a mafia.

I kind of think the "traffic controller" read on me is townie from pyxxy. The reasoning is bad (the thread was going in circles at the start, but after I threatened to start voting people who were bringing down the threadstate we've proceeded in a more productive direction), but it's an offbeat enough read that it doesn't feel made up. Also I think mafia pyxxy would not have me as their sole suspicion.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:02 am roxy..............town

.......self.......explanatory

.......yes.......I know.......what.......this looks like....... .......

It isn't self explanatory to me. Elaborate.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 12:37 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 9:46 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 8:54 pm ali.......hm..............hey alison..............ah.......I guess.......louder

@Alison..............

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:48 pmI shot pyxxy.

..............I remember.......you..............

.......you.......wolfing..............again?

No. What are your reads?

.......ah.......reads

read..............you.......

don’t.......believe you :/

too much..............of a..............traffic conductor

What does that mean

Camilla wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 10:40 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 4:30 am I have a light townread on Zenon because she doesn't have any reads and she feels restless to me, which fits with what I expect from town her. I think wolf Zenon would feel more chill about being readsless.

Isn’t this the opposite of her meta? From experience playing with her she tends to be less anxious as V.

No, she has a pathological need to prove she is a good townie.

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 9:46 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 7:44 pm I have not reviewed the linked game in detail but if it is true that Porscha is no longer volume polarized then it she is actually kind of scummy... the noise to signal ratio is really bad

it isn't my fault that half the people who signed up aren't playing and the other half are actually roleplaying the title of the game.

Who do you think is mafia?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 8:54 pm ali.......hm..............hey alison..............ah.......I guess.......louder

@Alison..............

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:48 pmI shot pyxxy.

..............I remember.......you..............

.......you.......wolfing..............again?

No. What are your reads?

I have not reviewed the linked game in detail but if it is true that Porscha is no longer volume polarized then it she is actually kind of scummy... the noise to signal ratio is really bad

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 7:37 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 7:32 pm Yes, very convenient, a game that's multiple months old automatically = being able to ignore being called out for logical inconsistencies in this one. You deflected away Seanzie's vote on you too.

oh nyuuu alison-sama this doesn't make it better

shes just saying ... well. let me try to help! i want to! try! maybe! i hope! shes coming at it from the ... emotional angle! and you, as a good samaritan townie, are doing the pressure thing, part of u know ... solving! but ... i dont think ... roxy-chan will give an ai answer to that ... since the emotional angle ... she will just ignore you regardless of alignment ... i think

although ... i obv dont wanna imply to tell anyone how to play ... i love freedom more than anything! i just ... try to help!

Thoughts on Rondo? You're like him but female so I figure you'll have some good insights.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 7:32 pm Yes, very convenient, a game that's multiple months old automatically = being able to ignore being called out for logical inconsistencies in this one. You deflected away Seanzie's vote on you too.

I guess you did this in Carto too so maybe it isn't scum indicative

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 7:26 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 7:23 pm I think Porscha is out of her wolf range + she's playing completely different from the one time I saw her wolf

could you please do me a favor alison-sama and skim thru her iso here search.php?keywords=&t=2508&author=Pors ... sf=msgonly

she was wolf and she snowed everyone including mac

in cartomancy she was a wolf, in post game it was said that she broke out of her wolf range

this game i linked again she was supposedly out of wolf range and she broke out of it, as said post game

porscha is a really good wolf!

I'll read this after breakfast. Mac has told me that Porscha has a very strong volume tell which he used to read her correctly in a few games and iirc she lowposted in Carto so I don't think she broke that tell at least. It's what I meant by that remark about her wolf range.

Yes, very convenient, a game that's multiple months old automatically = being able to ignore being called out for logical inconsistencies in this one. You deflected away Seanzie's vote on you too.

I have not been able to confidently townread Seanzie which is worrisome.

My top suspects are Roxy, Prince J, and Rondo.

tutuu is actually trending upwards because she is ostentatiously shitposting but mixes in posts that actually do work in between the shitposts when it would be easy for a mafia to just keep messing around

I think Porscha is out of her wolf range + she's playing completely different from the one time I saw her wolf

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 1:44 pm @Scotty It has been our routine on The Syndicate to not vote new players to the site on D 1 to give them a sort of welcome. I mean we want them to want to play here again, right? I've said this many times in many games. For you to "act" like it is something new from me is strange.



@Seanzie and again @Scotty Also I find the D 1 reads to not really be productive *on* D 1 only later in the game to reference back to. I found all the reasons people were clearing each other a big nothing but that is *my* opinion. No one else *must* feel this way bc it is my game style. You play your way and I'll continue on in my own lane.


I'll keep up with thread but I'll only post when/if I feel it is necessary.

Thanks for the vote seanzie.

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 1:48 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 8:20 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 8:03 am This lights up a lightbulb over my head

Everyone dont make reads. This game is apathy mafia. U are supposed to be apathic and not make reads. If u make reads you are going against the spirit of this game.

@~Prince J~
@Alison
@Camilla
@DrWilgy
@falcon45ca
@Porscha
@pyxxy
@RondoDimBuckle
@Roxy
@Scotty
@Seanzie
@tutuu
@Zenon

I disagree with this take on the game. Apathy is a theme not a rule to play this way. The spirit of the game is to hunt baddies the only weapons the town has are: reads and thread talk and elim's.

Just my opinion no offense meant. <3

These two posts don't go together.

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine

The thread state feels bad (circling around the same few reads/posts again and again, people coasting and talking about dumb shit) so I'm going to start voting the people who feel like they're making it worse on purpose.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 10:15 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 7:46 am @RondoDimBuckle Why do you seem so sedate? The Rondo I know wouldn't be able to resist stirring up a thread like this.

Nou

[VOTE: RondoDimBuckle] aubergine

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 9:51 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 9:43 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 7:34 am

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 6:42 am Big bunch of a nothing burger thread.

Tutuu please unvote the new player to TS.

Love how everyone has all these reads on day 1, I always find it quite fascinating.


Happy Tuesday.

thanks for the angleshoot

This isn’t an angleshoot, this is an etiquette thing.

Whether or not Roxy is saying this genuinely or if she knows Prince is town and is choosing to take the offensive to protect him is another thing

Real talk though

I think the perception that voting new players is disrespectful is a sign of an anti-fun underlying perception

And that is the perception that getting chopped is disrespectful

If u think chopping a new player will make them feel disrespected, then u must also feel disrespected/unhappy when u get chopped yourself

U must also feel guilty that youre disrespecting your friends by chopping them

That doesnt sound like a fun way to play mafia to me. Sounds anxiety-inducing. Perceiving chopping as not that big of a deal, not that dramatic, sounds to me like a smoother experience

Personally I think playing against your win condition on purpose is gamethrowing.

I am surprised that tutuu didn't unvote PJ tbh. I thought she was sympathetic to the "wahhh don't kill the newbie even if they're scummy wahhh I love placing votes based on blatant OOG considerations" stuff.

@RondoDimBuckle Why do you seem so sedate? The Rondo I know wouldn't be able to resist stirring up a thread like this.

Don't you people have like an 18+ Discord server or private Twitter account or something to share these thoughts on? No flame, just don't understand why you felt this was the best place to do this.

I have a light townread on Zenon because she doesn't have any reads and she feels restless to me, which fits with what I expect from town her. I think wolf Zenon would feel more chill about being readsless.

I think PJ is past the point in experience where I'd expect him to just leave the game because of a very standard RVS vote. I've played with PJ in a couple of games, and I don't recall him being the type to shrink away from high pressure situations either - he came under pretty heavy fire as town and was widely POE'd in... Tacky Matrix, I think, and he continued to play and solve. So I don't think "maybe he just got squicked out by tutuu's welcome and dipped" is an acceptable explanation for ghosting the thread.

No post cap.

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 2:24 am Reads no
Thoughts yes

Concerns why is nobody playing

What are your thoughts?

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 2:04 am Wow that's all the posts huh?

Do you have any reads, thoughts, concerns?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 12:43 am

Alison wrote: ↑Mon May 22, 2023 11:17 pm This game is so slow.

[VOTE: Prince J] aubergine

Because he afked, then popped in to make a nothingburger comment when he got voted, then afked again.

I still have suspicion on tutuu.

Not a bad read. I tend to agree that it isn’t a good look especially since I asked him a question 1 min after he posted and he just peaced.

Does anyone know Prince? Is he new? I tend not to want to vote for a newcomer D1

He's new to the Syndicate, not new to mafia. Plays a lot on MU.

Scotty is my first townread.

This game is so slow.

[VOTE: Prince J] aubergine

Because he afked, then popped in to make a nothingburger comment when he got voted, then afked again.

I still have suspicion on tutuu.

I am a fan of early game one post reads.

I'm not a fan of your early game one post read.

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon May 22, 2023 9:13 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon May 22, 2023 9:07 pm What has Seanzie done this game to make you think he cares?

his second and third post

i think scum seanzie cares less

His second post is him calling you and Scotty town with 0 explanation or followup, and then giving a non-read on Wilgy.

His third post is a joke.

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

What has Seanzie done this game to make you think he cares?