The Syndicate

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 7:07 pm Now townies, don't yell at me, I did the best I could.

I literally claimed Radishes was confirmed town the day after there was no kill

How you didnt read that as Oh she is the doctor

is beyond me

but you did your best, I suppose.

Just actually listen to me next time.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:06 pm @Jackofhearts2005 lets say you are town and I end up thinking you are town. LLD and Radishes vote for you. You and I vote for LLD? There's a tie and it's a toss up. Do you see it going any differently? What do you see as the plan if I agree with you?

Stop making deals with the scum.

What you have done is not game throw Jack and any assertions you are by being scum here are plainly lies.

Juliets, please just vote Jack.

Okay here we go. If we lynch scum 3 possible outcomes: Scum was poisoned, town lynches 3p next day Town wins. Commuter was poisoned, no one was poisoned, same thing. Doctor was poisoned, 3p wins. 2/3 If we lynch 3p Scum poisoned, town wins Commuter poisoned, scum shoots doctor, town loses Doctor poi...

Lynch scum wins 2/3 times. Lynch third party wins 1/3 times. No lynch wins 4/9 times (1.33/3) Lynching scum is mathematically correct What are the odds if we lynch town? If we lynch a townie, townies lose in all worlds. 0/3 I don’t believe you’re actually doing any math and also, you’re proposing t...

But that is how most lylo works and no lynching takes control out of our hands.

I can explain more in-depth if needed buy it is strictly wrong

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:49 pm
Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:46 pm Lynch scum wins 2/3 times.
Lynch third party wins 1/3 times.
No lynch wins 4/9 times (1.33/3)

Lynching scum is mathematically correct
What are the odds if we lynch town?

If we lynch a townie, townies lose in all worlds. 0/3

Like I can break down the math for you on each one if you want but the math is obvious honestly Ok no problem. My head is not comprehending the math as well as you guys. Also, I broke down and decided I needed some wine. Oh honey. I am... Sorry. I have been trying not to comment on your dad for fea...

Lynch scum wins 2/3 times.
Lynch third party wins 1/3 times.
No lynch wins 4/9 times (1.33/3)

Lynching scum is mathematically correct

Like I can break down the math for you on each one if you want but the math is obvious honestly

Juliets, we need to lynch scum.

Radishes if you do not lynch Jack I will lynch you instead. I will not no lynch today.

There, that ahould be 3 jack votes.

Juliets if you think I am town and you should just trust me on this.

Radishes if you want a chance at winning you also need to do this.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:10 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:06 pm What if we no lynch and see what happens?
Honestly, this is where I started the day.

What would make this a bad idea?

Mathematically wrong.

Do not do this.

Honestly I get you are fighting for your scum win and you think I am kingmaking against you

But I am doing the correct mechanical choice for town Jack. It is only coincidental that I get to enjoy watching you lose.

I showed mathematically it is better to lynch scum.

But you still want to lynch the third party.

I wonder why

I feel like I am going to make us lose this game because I'm having trouble honestly deciding between Jack and LLD. Each time one of them posts I think "yes, they are town". I can feel all the dead townies screaming at me "Cant you see it's [insert name]?" I wish I knew LLD's ga...

I’ll take things I would love to say but would result in a town loss for 100, 200 and 300, Alex. Given Juliets role we both know what we are claiming to be, so I do not know why you are trying to pretend she doesnt know either. She knows her own role as town so she knows what we are trying to claim...

I’ll take things I would love to say but would result in a town loss for 100, 200 and 300, Alex. Given Juliets role we both know what we are claiming to be, so I do not know why you are trying to pretend she doesnt know either. She knows her own role as town so she knows what we are trying to claim...

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Vote Jack of Hearts Juliet, I do not see myself changing course today. This is the correct move because if the poisoner killed scum we win even if we lynch scum. and if the poisoner fails to kill due to points or targetting the commuter, then we win tomorrow anyway. We never gain any win percentage...

She knows which role I am because I have been softing it for 3-4 game days.

It is incredibly obvious.

And as a result she knows what role you are for pretending to be my role.

It is optimal to kill you today.

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:17 pm What if our 3P is out of points? I guess that is a long shot, surely he would have saved some for the end.

We should lynch the scum Jack today.

It is optimal for us.

Not that I disagree with you on Juliets being town but how is she confirmed town here? Cannot believe I am asking literal actual scum player this question but Not fucking telling for raisins. :biggrin: Okay so you are confirming yourself scum to me, and then confirming Juliets town via that angle. ...

Not that I disagree with you on Juliets being town but how is she confirmed town here?

Cannot believe I am asking literal actual scum player this question but

Can we petition the mod for roleclaiming rn lol

But we are likely kingmaker unless the Third-party jilled the scum. Because even if we lynch scum if they 3p poisoned town we lose. So we have two opitions. Option 1) lynch for the third party and hope 3p hit scum for a win 2)no lynch and see what happens. If the 3p kills town then the scum has to ...

There is a doctor a commuter a wolf and a poisoner 3p left.

Last chance to get it right before you more or less confirm this is an angle you are pushing.

Given we need to lunch the third party...

Let us examine the third party kills and try and isolate who benefits from them.

But we are likely kingmaker unless the Third-party jilled the scum. Because even if we lynch scum if they 3p poisoned town we lose. So we have two opitions. Option 1) lynch for the third party and hope 3p hit scum for a win 2)no lynch and see what happens. If the 3p kills town then the scum has to n...

I am not scum. Consider that I have called Radishes town for this long. I will give you another hard opinion.

Radishes can be third party but not scum IMO.

Cannot say more.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:56 pm
Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:16 pm Eh he probably foes and I nees to do shit in lylo

Gross
What? You know the game ended right?

Yes I am speaking hypothetical responding to myself about whether Dom would have lived today if he had killed you instead.

Eh he probably foes and I nees to do shit in lylo

Gross

I dunno if Dom lives to endgame when I am still 100 percent convinced he is scum.

But yeah ggwp townies who did way more than me.

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:39 am
Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:12 am Colin Scum Pawn 3p

I think.
Pawn as 3P, that's interesting. Anything specific that leads you to this conclusion?

Half stance on Eva makes some sense with it. Lurking makes sense with it. It fits and they lack team connectives to really be mafia honestly?

Wake me up if DF or LC flips town. I will talk about stuff then.

But colin wanting to lynch Radishes is so bad that it eclipses any wrongness Jack may have about me or 112.

Jack has an outside chance for being wrong this late in the game.

Never lynch Radishes.

Colin Scum Pawn 3p

I think.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:27 pm Would you take the opposite deal? Lynch Dom first?

Always.

I wouldn't offer it in the order I did if I wouldn't take the inverse.

I concede pawn might have somr lurk town equity.

I don't care.

He needs to die on percentage right now before odds lower and he is in lylo.

Okay. I misunderstood that you had other reasons for suspecting him. I still don't think "betting" your lives against each other is usually a productive tactic but you do you. Well I normally wouldn't do it if I felt my life had any value but it doesn't so if Dom dies once I flip town tha...

Okay I will explain this one last time

Person most likely to kill Eva there is Pawn

Person most likely to take a strong stancr of Eva's alignment there is Pawn. But he didn't

Pawn does not fit town Pawn in this game

So Pawn needs to die

I just don't get why you feel so strongly now that your initial premise has been thoroughly debunked. Because the premise was essentially just an entry point and my initial premise (he was voting LC with two of his top scum reads you and I) is still sound. I won't stop being aggressive even if I mi...

Instead of admitting she was wrong about the vote order she just flips out and insists on self sacrificing on betting on Dom's alignment I'm having war flashbacks Idk why I agreed to play another game with this toxic person I don't know why you think this is toxic? I clearly misunderstood the way v...

So what do you say Dom

One person is saying even if you take the deal they won't lynch you!

Wowee what a deal

You game? You will vote yourself until you are lynched if I lynch myself today?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:19 pm It's not really a deal you guys can make. My vote isn't a bargaining chip for you to use.

Is that so?

Interesting!

The court should note that Long Con answered this problem for Dom instead of Dom

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:15 pm "if when I flip town"

Which is it "if" or "when"?

If affects the deal statement.

when affects the town statement

if (I vote myself), when I flip town....

see how that works

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:15 pm If or when?
You sound unsure.

if you think I sound unsure, take the deal buddy.

I am just gonna tie your life to mine here.

So what do you say

...the votes aren't in order. Wait... so did I wait to vote or did I not announce my vote? I'm trying to keep up with your bullshit, but you make it awfully hard. You know what? Tell you what. How certain are you I am scum? Willing to bet your life? Cause I will vote myself right now and let you ly...

... So why was your vote after both of ours?

If you placed it way back there

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