The Syndicate

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:12 pm oh fuck they self voted, i will post more upon rereading the entire thread

Oh no that will take like three whole minutes

Stick wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:08 pm anyway im bad

I knew it.

Stick wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:59 pm why does it say stool pigeon under my name?

Coo coo motherfucker

Stick wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:50 pm im aware theyre self voting and i tend to TR that but ive also been burnt countless times by mafia exploiting thar strat

If DM flips wolf after self-voting I will laugh and then solve the game.

@DarlingMonroe self-voting is a wolfclaim. If you come vote someone else I'll lock townread you forever.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:46 pm We've gone full silly this eod

Maybe we should all 600-post next phase.

More info = better solving!

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:45 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:45 pm Atm Stick is not voting so it's in-spirit 4-3 for DM.

@baker come have an opinion on real wagons.
Yeah but DM is one of the DM votes, so that's not necessarily concrete.

Oh yeah lol.

Man kids these days and their spiteful self-voting.

Atm Stick is not voting so it's in-spirit 4-3 for DM.

@baker come have an opinion on real wagons.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:42 pm How could DM prove themselves Town if they are allowed to survive this lynch?

What would it take?

Or would they just stay as a risky unknown until a later yeet?

I mean I think there's just as much onus on us to find them town, now or later.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:37 pm I just skimmed DM and there's definitely evidence of their town range now.

The meta check on that slot I think is quick enough to do. Check out timelines where W DM was decently inactive and had seemingly less direction.
search.php?author_id=54&t=2587

I think the big difference is the process DM is taking towards Abi this game.

Maybe it's just me.

You linked SVS' iso.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:31 pm
LC/Abi have been here but have been semi Slanky.

LC has at least dropped a vote.

Not sure if that's AI at all. Kinda mulling over a wolfy sense of obligation vs a towny dgaf.

Baker, stop vanity-voting Scotty.

If we're killing one of Stick or DM, drop a vote on who you think it should be.

What I should probably do is check some meta on Stick and Baker and DM, but I can't be bothered.

Abi and LC are slots that deserve harder looks, yeah.

But as someone who loves flashwagons I don't think one is the right move here. The Stick/Baker/DM trio has gotten the most attention today and shooting in there would be best imo. At the very very least we'd solve an uncertain slot and possibly be able to read others based on treatment of that slot.

I'm aware it's D2 but it's kinda D1 in my head so I'm gonna go with a general 'I don't care let's just kill someone' approach.

Leave garebear aside. There's no point wasting braincells over inactives and no point wasting chops over them either.

Kinda same with Robyn for now unfortunately.

Just will throw it out there to the wind that I like that Wilgy gave a review of Stick that seemed a bit lazy on the surface, but he clearly had thought about his conclusions a little bit (in his follow up post 566 and his response to me about Stick being hedgey).

Anyway, carry on.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:41 pm Also @baker I should note that your posts as a whole on D1 weren’t performative- it was that one post voting for falcon that seemed like a fake, perform-y justification

I felt that post (not gonna go check it now but I know which one you mean) was too over the top to be a wolf genuinely trying to be performative. It felt like a town being overdramatic for funsies to me.

Baker's reaction to your wagon analysis was the bit I could see being performative. Not saying it definitely is, but it felt like an overreaction to what was fairly standard thoughts.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:39 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:37 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:32 pm Thoughts: Stick looks much better D2 but a lot of the game also does. There's a few things in there that I can see coming from a townie mindset that aren't as preformatory such as the Scotty progression. Hedgey behavior towards Martin is still bad though.
Why is Stick hedging on Martin bad? Like I'm internally hedging the fuck out of Martin because his style is one that is easy to find scummy imo.
With Stick it feels more like "In keeping my options open on you" rather than I'm changing my conclusions on you. For whatever that's worth.

Gotcha.

I don't have much to say to argue /against/ a Baker or DM yeet here.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:32 pm Thoughts: Stick looks much better D2 but a lot of the game also does. There's a few things in there that I can see coming from a townie mindset that aren't as preformatory such as the Scotty progression. Hedgey behavior towards Martin is still bad though.

Why is Stick hedging on Martin bad? Like I'm internally hedging the fuck out of Martin because his style is one that is easy to find scummy imo.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:01 pm That certainly doesn’t change the diaper for me

I mean I wasn't trying to change your diaper. I was asked a question by someone else and I answered it.

Stick wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:49 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:47 am DM has now done two things I actually noticed that I think are a bit towny. So no, Stick, we shall not team up at this juncture. Soz.
pls share

There was this sequence:

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:53 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:52 am
Stick wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:51 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:47 am
Stick wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:21 am actually no, i want this more today:

[VOTE: Darling Monroe] aubergine

@Master Radishes let's join forces and vote DM
I've paid no attention to DM's posts tbh so no opinion.
most of their posts have words that amount to nothing, pretty much
Probably why I don't consciously remember a single post of theirs.
wow, so kind individuals

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:55 am
Stick wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:21 am actually no, i want this more today:

[VOTE: Darling Monroe] aubergine

@Master Radishes let's join forces and vote DM
why are so many of your recent votes related to bashing me?

im not even one of your 3 votes; im on baker, but i could be petty and make it 4 on you

i wont, since i think baker is scummier, but after your recent posts i think i might feel differently

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:56 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:52 am
Stick wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:51 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:47 am
Stick wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:21 am actually no, i want this more today:

[VOTE: Darling Monroe] aubergine

@Master Radishes let's join forces and vote DM
I've paid no attention to DM's posts tbh so no opinion.
most of their posts have words that amount to nothing, pretty much
Probably why I don't consciously remember a single post of theirs.
not even the ones that were quoted multiple times? so much for paying attention and playing the game

I like how they roll their eyes at my post (which does come across as a bit 'wow rude' though it wasn't my intention), go bring up something else, then come back to roll their eyes even harder at me.

It felt like genuine mild annoyance at what I'd said, and now reading it in slow mo I remember scum can be genuinely annoyed too, but in the moment my initial instinct was a towny annoyance.

I don't remember what the second thing was, now.

DM has now done two things I actually noticed that I think are a bit towny. So no, Stick, we shall not team up at this juncture. Soz.

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:56 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:52 am
Stick wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:51 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:47 am
Stick wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:21 am actually no, i want this more today:

[VOTE: Darling Monroe] aubergine

@Master Radishes let's join forces and vote DM
I've paid no attention to DM's posts tbh so no opinion.
most of their posts have words that amount to nothing, pretty much
Probably why I don't consciously remember a single post of theirs.
not even the ones that were quoted multiple times? so much for paying attention and playing the game

Well now I've paid attention to this one! So that's something.

I'm not the slankiest for once. Huzzah

Stick wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:51 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:47 am
Stick wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:21 am actually no, i want this more today:

[VOTE: Darling Monroe] aubergine

@Master Radishes let's join forces and vote DM
I've paid no attention to DM's posts tbh so no opinion.
most of their posts have words that amount to nothing, pretty much

Probably why I don't consciously remember a single post of theirs.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:11 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:00 am Oh damn, the wagon I started is now leading. Probably means I'm wrong.
so.....you believe at least 1 wolf in me/wilgy for what reason?

It was a throwaway comment.

Stick wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:21 am actually no, i want this more today:

[VOTE: Darling Monroe] aubergine

@Master Radishes let's join forces and vote DM

I've paid no attention to DM's posts tbh so no opinion.

Stick wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:02 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:57 pm
Stick wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:47 pm @baker @Stick @DrWilgy @MartinGG99

i hope you guys sat down and reflected on your actions overnight
Out of context (I haven't really read EoD1) this is a performative post. She later says it was lighthearted or whatever but I don't really see where the jokey bit of it is?

it was lighthearted cuz i pinged myself too xD i hate having to explain jokes now it's lame

Oh I get it now. Solidly amusing! I accept I'm wrong on this then.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:38 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:10 pm Half of ☆Abi☆'s posts are that Stick is town.
Yes but half of stick’s post are town so I think she’s on to something

Point out the posts you find towny?

Oh damn, the wagon I started is now leading. Probably means I'm wrong.

baker wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:14 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:56 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:17 pm I like Scotty's vibe. Seems comfortable in the thread.

Someone tell me what makes him mafia if you think I'm wrong.
@baker my leige, take it away
I will believe Radishes re-entry was more on the towny side than the classical wolf entrance of "x is town, x and y fight makes no sense. lets look at z"

I think Scotty was encouraging you to tell me why you think he's scummy, since I don't find him so.

But I do always like when people talk about me.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:52 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:45 pm This post

Stick wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:25 am [VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine poke poke

i know you just said youre busy and that you can play tomorrow but...until then!!
was bad. She's making busywork by 'poking' someone who has openly said they aren't going to be able to play till later. What was it supposed to achieve? Nothing productive - just makes her look like she's doing something.

I'm going to go iso Stick now and find confbiasy reasons to support this ping.
In her defense, sticks are known for poking

And you were not exactly lighting up the thread with content

I didn't mean it was bad because she's poking an inactive full stop. I mean specifically that the pokee was very open about not being around just yet and gave a timeline of when to expect him to come to thread, so Stick's poke vote was useless and she's smart enough to know it would have zero effect on when I'd re-enter the thread. This makes me think Stick didn't know where to place a vote and chose an easy out then tried to dress it up as something pro town.

There is no such thing as the 'norm'. People have different experiences and we've all brought those different expriences to this game.

I also vowed to myself to stop using buzzwords like 'gamestate' so much. Oops. Someone spank me so I learn my lesson please.

I think I need Robyn to come do Things. I'll likely not follow them all or agree with them all but I think it'd add an interesting dimension to the gamestate.

I like Scotty's vibe. Seems comfortable in the thread.

Someone tell me what makes him mafia if you think I'm wrong.

I've come across two opinions from Baker I straight up disagree with (saying Stick's vote on me was good + strong reaction to Scotty's wagon analysis).

I don't know what to do with that.

Baker, post your hottest takes so I can see if I agree with any?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:32 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:25 pm especially since, uh, we may have voted one off recently
Yea. We

Now this is a towny entrance to D2. No bullshit emotional reaction to flipping falcon, just straight into the sass.

Even if Scotty is mafia he's done better than the rest of you.

Those can't all be from scum but whichever are from town deserve to be mocked by me anyway.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:24 pm aw come on

I was hoping I would die so I can focus on stuff I got from the holidays and not have to deal with our thread activity issue

would have more to say but I think its best to not really discuss the lack of night kill in order to avoid showing who's our power roles

'Aw shucks, too bad I didn't die like I thought was a legit possibility seeing as I'm town!'

Ew.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:42 pm Hope we've got a couple more power roles! That sucked.

'Oh gee willickers that sure is bad for us, fellow town!'

Double ew.

Stick wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:47 pm @baker @Stick @DrWilgy @MartinGG99

i hope you guys sat down and reflected on your actions overnight

'That sure was not a good result, fellow town!'

(Already said 'ew' in more words above ^ but quoting again for emphasis of how 'ew' these posts all are collectively.)

My god there were a lot of scummy sounding entrances to D2.

Okay it wasn't that bad an iso but also it wasn't that good an iso either.

If I'm being unfair I'd nitpick these:

Spoiler: show

There's little else I really had feelings about, which is kind of just as worrying. I feel like I shouldn't be reading one of the higher posters and thinking 'eh, that post could come from town, but also from scum' every time I read one of their posts. Has she gotten tangled up in any arguments? Again, massive caveat that I've not read everything closely, but I feel like she's sort of on the sidelines of things?

Anyway I'm always super indecisive when solving and I've vowed to myself to be more decisive from now on even if I end up wrong so Stick is lock mafia and you're all going to vote her with me and I will be your town captain now.

This post

Stick wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:25 am [VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine poke poke

i know you just said youre busy and that you can play tomorrow but...until then!!

was bad. She's making busywork by 'poking' someone who has openly said they aren't going to be able to play till later. What was it supposed to achieve? Nothing productive - just makes her look like she's doing something.

I'm going to go iso Stick now and find confbiasy reasons to support this ping.

Anyway everyone vote Stick with me.

I don't like backreading simply because I feel obligated to.

But in a game this size and pace I'm unlikely to find much to live-post about.

Maybe I'll go back to slanking.

I tried reading from the beginning and got bored.

[VOTE: Stick] aubergine

baker wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:03 pm
Stick wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:25 am [VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine poke poke

i know you just said youre busy and that you can play tomorrow but...until then!!
this is an ok prod tbh given the gamestate

What? No it isn't. It's lazy. I've been clear about my lack of time so far and poking an inactive like me is obviously going to do nothing.

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