The Syndicate

Out of time. Okay, let’s do this quickly - no links, soz. But trust me on my interpretation.

After Jack initiated the Nutella vote (bottom of page 11), it gained little traction. In fact, he mostly got flack at first – Mac and Sloonei both dismissed it, especially Mac (who called Nutella town and Jack scum in the space of a few posts.) Nutella counter-votes, and Epi and Sprit both join the Jack vote in their own time. But everyone was focusing on Nanookian satire instead.

Jack wouldn’t let it go, and as the discussion over Nanook wanes, Ted votes Nutella (‘page 12 was yucky’), whilst SVS and Dom vote Jack. It becomes the thread’s main focus for a couple pages. The Radish wagon picks up and kills it off, eventually. (Ted switches off at some point.)

Jack still doesn’t let it go, and some pages later Mac now (despite his earlier stance) declares Jack often right about this and nutella’s defence bad (but doesn’t vote there). Turnip Head, seemingly going off of Mac’s posts, votes Nutella (but only says ‘why not’). Epi questions Jack’s logic, but then a page later also votes Nutella (no reason given). Sig quickly also votes Nutella (‘reactions’). A bit later, Dom (reason unclear, but I think about ‘back peddling’) and Sabie (scum!Jack wouldn’t do this) also vote Nutella.

The wagon goes a bit stale, and Epi and Sig both jump off it.

--

At its peak moment, the voters, by my count and in order, were: Jack, TH, Epi, Sig, Dom, Sabie [6]. It’s at this moment that there is very likely at least one scum on the wagon. The Nutella vote gained momentum fairly quickly, and was a duelling wagon with the one on me. Scum mentality is to nudge these sort of wagons, and I think it’s perfectly reasonable to work under the assumption there is at least one in this group.

All 5 non-Jack voters can appear to be opportunistic. TH, Epi, and Dom gave no reasons, whilst Sig and Sabie gave lacklustre reasons. (Also notable is Mac, who nudged it along without ever landing there.)

Of those names, I’m not sure one in particular stands out. I think Sig’s vote was the most egregious, but his macro play of all those names has been the greenest. At the moment I’m not entirely sure where I’d place a vote (and obviously can’t anyway), but GTH I’d say Sabie. Also not a fan of Mac’s play on this – inconsistent and never landed on the wagon or, conversely, showed progression away from it. Just blew on the sparks a bit.



And off to bed I go.

Did anyone see how many votes were on nutella when she got nook'd?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:27 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:58 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:47 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:20 pm ...(Dizzy doesn't like me doing a Thing, so I'll expand, of course.)

Yeah, I asked who I should look at. Sometimes scum do that. Sometimes so do townies.

I've been trying not to play the 'I'm busy' card too hard because I'll end up a broken record, but I'm busy. I've not closely read everything. I'm going to be a follower this game, not a leader. Most of the D1 talking points (baddie-gate, for example) were not that worthwhile and by the time I was online they were over anyway, so I didn't bother to delve into them again. If I want to contribute to helping the town, I've got to do something.


The good news is now we have info, so I can play my own game.

How do you plan to use the information we’ve gained?

We know Nutella was not mafia. We know that mafia (of either team) are going to, therefore, gleefully nudge a mislynch. There will be scum on her wagon somewhere.

But that would have been the case if she were bad as well. With two bad teams the baddies are trying to lynch other team baddies for the cred. If anything the baddies want to avoid lynching civs with two teams, they let the civvies cannibalize themselves.

But the baddies don't know who the civs are either. (There, I said 'civs'.)

So we say Scum Team A knows nutella is not one of them. Therefore they have no issue seeing her go. There were only three proper wagons - nute, Jack, me - and Jack's went stale and died off. Members of Scum Team A, doing the usual thing, will 'spread out' a bit. They won't coordinate exactly, but the odds of at least one of them slipping into an easy vote are high. (And, equally likely, at least one of my voters is from Scum Team A as well, regardless of what you consider my own alignment to be.)


Basically, I'm playing the odds/going off many years' experience. Nutella had at least one scum voter on her somewhere.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:47 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:20 pm ...(Dizzy doesn't like me doing a Thing, so I'll expand, of course.)

Yeah, I asked who I should look at. Sometimes scum do that. Sometimes so do townies.

I've been trying not to play the 'I'm busy' card too hard because I'll end up a broken record, but I'm busy. I've not closely read everything. I'm going to be a follower this game, not a leader. Most of the D1 talking points (baddie-gate, for example) were not that worthwhile and by the time I was online they were over anyway, so I didn't bother to delve into them again. If I want to contribute to helping the town, I've got to do something.


The good news is now we have info, so I can play my own game.

How do you plan to use the information we’ve gained?

We know Nutella was not mafia. We know that mafia (of either team) are going to, therefore, gleefully nudge a mislynch. There will be scum on her wagon somewhere.

Nevermind, I remembered I know how to do things too.

(Does anyone want to do me a big favour and direct me *roughly* to where the Jack/nutella thing first started? Not even a page number necessarily, just in relation to a signpost, e.g. after baddie-gate or something.)

And Juliets, I did read your ISO of me. Obviously I think you've read me better than anyone else so far, but of course I'm biased there. It is, however, a lot of work for a scum to do - you could easily have hopped on the wagon and/or thrown out a casual 'eh I don't get it' instead, but you didn't. It's a good look on you, in my eyes, regardless of the subject matter.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:19 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:13 pm Actually I'm not going to bother finding the posts and quoting them. @Sloonei and @juliets, my response:

Well, I won't beg you but I'm really disappointed. I feel like I put myself out there for you in my ISO and you won't even answer my questions?

AtE much? Making me feel guilty.

I was just being dismissive. It's performative, you see.

...(Dizzy doesn't like me doing a Thing, so I'll expand, of course.)

Yeah, I asked who I should look at. Sometimes scum do that. Sometimes so do townies.

I've been trying not to play the 'I'm busy' card too hard because I'll end up a broken record, but I'm busy. I've not closely read everything. I'm going to be a follower this game, not a leader. Most of the D1 talking points (baddie-gate, for example) were not that worthwhile and by the time I was online they were over anyway, so I didn't bother to delve into them again. If I want to contribute to helping the town, I've got to do something.


The good news is now we have info, so I can play my own game.

Actually I'm not going to bother finding the posts and quoting them. [mention]Sloonei[/mention] and [mention]juliets[/mention], my response:

Cool beans.

Lemme respond to Sloonei/Juliets then Imma go digging. We got info now, and that means I can finally play.

Wait, it's Night but we're posting? Is that a thing here?

On phone at work so not here to have an extended convo. But, nutella, I was ISOing a few people and Mac's reads stood out to me. I checked Ted and sloonei, then quickly glanced at TSP, Dom, and Mac as I looked for people flying under the radar (except dom who was due to dizzys vote). I also glanced at speedchuk and sabie but by that point felt my approach wasn't worthwhile and didn't post anything about it.

What people are interpreting as flailing is just me knowing no one and nothing and looking for angles people haven't considered yet. I had nothing to add to the nutella/Jack debate and didn't feel inclined to reread it all. (I also shaded nute way before anyone else did, and expressed my read of Jack from limited meta.)

I've said it before, I hate D1s. It's not the first time I've ended up being a D1 wagon for not appearing helpful enough.

Anyway, now I actually need to go sleep. Ta.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:53 pm All of the no posts are grey, and everyone else had posted when he made that, I think. I would be more likely to suspect him if he had not made one.

But there are sub-10 posters with no content who he's ranking too. I don't think a townie tends to worry about including everyone like that.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:48 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:35 pm SVS seems like a really cool person.

But I don't get why I've seen a number of TRs on her.

Thank You!
What is a "TR"? Town read? Probably becasue my town game is a lot weirder than my bad game, I'm a pretty good baddie, and I tend to put more effort into a bad game so I'm smoother and less likely to say stupid shit. I play a civ game mostly solely on aggression, gut and tone. So I jup to alot of conclusions and backpedal more. At least this is my opinion of my game, results may vary based on the test audience.

And Linki is "linkitis" it means someone posted something relevant to what a person is posting while they were composing their post, so it's an acknowledgment that you say their post. It came from Lostpedia, I forget who coined it.

Yes, TR = town read. And thanks for the 'link' explanation.

You may just have a style of play I need to get my head around. It happens. For now, I consider you a squinty-eye-wait-and-see read.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:48 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:46 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:44 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:42 pm Someone else did an early way-too-full reads list too, I think. I can't remember who.

Mac just copied Jimmaaay's. Probably a joke. Jimmay was the one with the full read list. Let's wagon. It's a great idea.

Lmao, you're right.

[VOTE: Vote JayJaggedJimmy] aubergine

What exactly is your objection to that reads list?

It was early in the game still when posted, yet was confidently shading barely-posting players in green/orange. I'm not against an early reads list, but I'd expect it to have a lot more grey on it.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:44 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:42 pm Someone else did an early way-too-full reads list too, I think. I can't remember who.

Mac just copied Jimmaaay's. Probably a joke. Jimmay was the one with the full read list. Let's wagon. It's a great idea.

Lmao, you're right.

[VOTE: Vote JayJaggedJimmy] aubergine

Someone else did an early way-too-full reads list too, I think. I can't remember who.

Wait.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:33 pm Dyslexicon
Epignosis
juliets
Michelle
nutella
S~V~S

Sloonei
tedxtr
TonyStarkPrime
sprityo
Tranq
Turnip Head

ColinIsCool
Dom
Dragomir

G-Man
Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay
Master Radishes
NANOOK
sabie12
sig
speedchuck

This is random and way too full for so early a point in the game. Some of the names listed had barely posted.

[VOTE: Vote MacDougall] aubergine

...

Yeah, I like this.

I'm going to head to bed now.

Nah, nevermind, I don't like going after LHF.

I dunno. I hate D1s.

What about TSP? He's done nothing.

Linki: Oh, Sloonei has that thought too.

SVS seems like a really cool person.

But I don't get why I've seen a number of TRs on her.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:24 pm We should wagon Dom as well.
[VOTE:
Dom] aubergine

Eh, I liked Dom's limited posts. They seem to fit the little I know of town!Dom.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:27 pm This is 100% how Sloonei plays, he's like a prosecuter in a TV show about lawyers.

Thanks.

The only legal drama I ever watched was the Good Wife.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:22 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:20 pmOh right, I forgot they're not in order. Eh, not putting in the work myself.

Roster size depending, 4th slot is more often the scum slot than any other slot, in my experience. (I've not done any statistical analysis of this.)

Yeah, I've heard that before about the 3rd or 4th vote, but it kind of makes me want to do fart noises lol. I feel there are way better tells with any particular vote in any particular game than what a universal number can be.

Don't get me wrong, I'd never stake a game on it. But once someone pointed it out to me I found it proved true more often than I thought it would.

After a juicy flip I'd look there first, and ISO/keep an eye on the player in question for any other tells.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:24 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:17 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:54 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:12 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:09 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:06 pm Yeah, okay, I don't have the time or will to slog through the thread again. Just...give me someone(s) to ISO or summat.

Sloonei and Ted pops into my head as interesting ISOs for what it's worth.

Okie dokie.

Pre-ISO impressions:

Ted - liked his opening; I'd lean towards saying it's townie, with the caveat of a scum working hard to find the other team
Sloonei - when initially catching up on opening posts, I felt good about him; as I interacted with him in real time, I wasn't sure why; he feels quite reserved and prone to asking questions rather than help scumhunt - maybe that's his meta?

What does this mean? How do you distinguish my questions from something that you would call scumhunting?

Perhaps poorly phrased on my part, but I don't consider asking question after question to constitute 'scumhunting' unless it leads somewhere. You're throwing out dozens of questions to people and there's little evidence you've gotten anything out of them. It's one of those little things baddies (if I can say that) will try to do to appear more active and engaged than they are.

People say this about me all the time. Asking questions is my thing. It's what I do. It leads somewhere, even if the results aren't immediate. Questions asked on Day 1 are valuable on Day 3.

@anyone to confirm this meta, please.

I did ask for meta info earlier, because I know some people just play that way. I didn't see anyone respond.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:49 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:37 pmI get what you mean about this completely; you're just misinterpreting where the 'performative' bit (maybe not the right word - more like adopting a persona?) comes from. I'm playing in a game with a bunch of people I don't know but who know each other, but have the confidence to 'go against the grain' as you say, as this isn't my first rodeo. I'm not consciously adopting a persona (okay, that was also the wrong phrase) but, yeah, my internet/mafia style tends towards dismissive and sarcastic in the early stages of games, especially on sites I'm not familiar with.

I guess I'd say it sounds like posturing. Also a bit aloof. I read back in your ISO now and I still don't get a good vibe. I don't understand why the "Are we ever going to stop talking about the significance of ice cream flavor and do I need to care?" exists. I don't care for the "I like sloonei but I don't remember why", which you also did with Nut later. That's the kind of lolzy aloof attitude I'm comfortable holding up myself as scum. I realize I'm just reiterating my points again. I just don't think my feelings have changed. Though I do appreciate you being active and involved in the game, whether my read is correct or not.

I mean, I was posting on N0. That's time for shitposting and stupid gut reads.

Scratch that - it's always time for shitposting and stupid gut reads. But as the game progresses I'll add in seriousposting and analytical reads to my repertoire as well.

But I understand your perception of it.

(Also, the 'do I need to care' was sort of in reference to the concept, new to me, that a N0 poll might matter in the slightest.)

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:52 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:47 pm I've not voted yet so I haven't seen the poll. Who is in the 4th slot on Nutella, Jack, and/or me?

Thar be scum. Bet me.

I don't think the votes are ordered so in that case you'll have to go back and see. Are you saying the 4th vote on a wagon is scum? Cause...? I don't believe in number magic in mafia myself but ok.

Oh right, I forgot they're not in order. Eh, not putting in the work myself.

Roster size depending, 4th slot is more often the scum slot than any other slot, in my experience. (I've not done any statistical analysis of this.)

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:54 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:12 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:09 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:06 pm Yeah, okay, I don't have the time or will to slog through the thread again. Just...give me someone(s) to ISO or summat.

Sloonei and Ted pops into my head as interesting ISOs for what it's worth.

Okie dokie.

Pre-ISO impressions:

Ted - liked his opening; I'd lean towards saying it's townie, with the caveat of a scum working hard to find the other team
Sloonei - when initially catching up on opening posts, I felt good about him; as I interacted with him in real time, I wasn't sure why; he feels quite reserved and prone to asking questions rather than help scumhunt - maybe that's his meta?

What does this mean? How do you distinguish my questions from something that you would call scumhunting?

Perhaps poorly phrased on my part, but I don't consider asking question after question to constitute 'scumhunting' unless it leads somewhere. You're throwing out dozens of questions to people and there's little evidence you've gotten anything out of them. It's one of those little things baddies (if I can say that) will try to do to appear more active and engaged than they are.

--

To save a post, I'll complete my ISO of Sloonei here:

Basically gonna cop out and say: I think I need meta and/or just to wait for later rounds to read him properly. Over half his posts are questions to other players, most of which aren't then followed up. (Already discussed above - not a fan of it.)

But then there are moments where he's clearly not afraid to prod others, e.g. with ted early on ('like he was trying to shove me away'), or sig shortly after that (what 'antsy' means). He's equally not interested in letting bad lines of inquiry play out (Nanook's 'satire' post; Radishes' use of 'baddie') which he suggests shutting down in both cited cases. He also banters when he sees an opportunity ('Mac's big D' etc) which shows he's loose, even as the game began to turn more serious.

But, as ever, caveats and all that. This isn't un-fakeable by any means.

So Sloonei remains pretty null for me until I see more. I'm not TRing him, but at the moment not inclined to vote here.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:30 pm I'm really not sure how I feel about Jimmaaay. He seems kind of controlled or something, which is possibly oof. ButwhatdoIknownothing.

I sort of liked his play from what I'd noticed, but his vote on me is very wagony.



Will ISO Sloonei in a bit, as requested.

[mention]Dyslexicon[/mention]

ISO on Ted in some random order:

(There's no specific post that I find particularly AI, so I won't quote anything, but...)

-He bounces his reads around a bit (claims his page 2 reads based on 'swag' are serious, but never comes back to it; suddenly drops a vote on Nutella and only gives a reason for it later; then switches to vote me, again without justification), but doesn't try to justify his progression. Maybe a bouncy scum, but I get the impression he just doesn't care how he comes across. Good look.

-His tone is consistent - loose and carefree and not afraid to be a bit fun, but easily switches back to serious gameplay when necessary. Another good look of someone who isn't worried about how they come across.

-He isn't trying to stand out or lead a charge or anything, but equally isn't afraid to engage in discussions, even ones that don't involve him. No waffling on reads, just straight to the point. Also something I consider a good look.


Overall, ISOing Ted has made me nudge him from null+ to a lightish green. Macro play is decent so far, in the sense he doesn't seem concerned about his image.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:15 pm I also don't get Jack's so sure read on you. Is that normal for Jack, anyone? I seem to remember a more tempered town!Jack.

In my single game (Inception, a few months ago) Jack looked like he was trying to play like he is now, but without being too noticeable. He was scum in that game, so in retrospect I feel like he was trying to imitate his town game as he perceives it.

This makes me hesitate to vote Jack right now, as much as his overall play has been a bit questionable.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:11 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:43 pm I've not played a game with multiple mafia teams in...at least 6 years?

Everytime I get a thought about a player I have to add a caveat to it. I don't like so many caveated thoughts.

I’d like to hear those thoughts, caveats and all

The caveats are pretty much the same caveat, e.g. 'Player X seems to be working hard to solve the game; this is a good look for them...except if they're just on scum team 1 and are looking for scum team 2.'

Ted and Sig pop into mind when I think of this.

Another example: normally I'd say Turnip's vote on me feels natural enough, as he hinted at it in earlier posts; but then again, if he's Scum A who wants to slip onto a non-leading wagon he thinks could be Scum B, then he's played it exactly right.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:09 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:06 pm Yeah, okay, I don't have the time or will to slog through the thread again. Just...give me someone(s) to ISO or summat.

Sloonei and Ted pops into my head as interesting ISOs for what it's worth.

Okie dokie.

Pre-ISO impressions:

Ted - liked his opening; I'd lean towards saying it's townie, with the caveat of a scum working hard to find the other team
Sloonei - when initially catching up on opening posts, I felt good about him; as I interacted with him in real time, I wasn't sure why; he feels quite reserved and prone to asking questions rather than help scumhunt - maybe that's his meta?

Yeah, okay, I don't have the time or will to slog through the thread again. Just...give me someone(s) to ISO or summat.

I've not voted yet so I haven't seen the poll. Who is in the 4th slot on Nutella, Jack, and/or me?

Thar be scum. Bet me.

I've not played a game with multiple mafia teams in...at least 6 years?

Everytime I get a thought about a player I have to add a caveat to it. I don't like so many caveated thoughts.

This post caught my eye.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:55 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:26 pm Independent of all this: how do we all feel about master radishes?

Not great. I get the feeling that his presence is a bit flashy/comes across as performative. It's something I've seen with experienced players that they want to be a bit edgy/go against the grain give the impression that they are confident and have nothing to hide when they are scum. Compensating. Like when they asked "are we all seriously reading into ice cream flavors" (<-- from memory, might not be exact) or something like that. I don't know if I explain this right, but "performative" is what comes to mind and it feels not great.

I get what you mean about this completely; you're just misinterpreting where the 'performative' bit (maybe not the right word - more like adopting a persona?) comes from. I'm playing in a game with a bunch of people I don't know but who know each other, but have the confidence to 'go against the grain' as you say, as this isn't my first rodeo. I'm not consciously adopting a persona (okay, that was also the wrong phrase) but, yeah, my internet/mafia style tends towards dismissive and sarcastic in the early stages of games, especially on sites I'm not familiar with.

I singled this post out as well, though, because the thought process to me seems good. It's easy for scum looking to slip onto a wagon to pile on me today (I'm the third, less noticed wheel) but this isn't the way a scum would do it. This is an actual attempt to parse my behaviour.

I'm hesitant to declare anyone a green read in a multiball game where I don't know anyone's meta, but so far Dizzy (you gave permission!) is nudging upwards the most in my books with this thought process and general solid enough play.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:10 pm Can someone explain the radishes case to be? Is it just “he hasn’t made enough of an impression”?

I think my posts have been deemed fake.


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@ all

Back from work and making dinner and such. I've been skimming during breaks at work, but need to catch up on the last few pages and read some things properly.

Have caught up in time to go to work. Huzzah. @me for anything urgent, otherwise leave me alone.

I'm working 12 hour days these days. The school I work in is a start-up, so a lot of systems and procedures are just not in place consistently yet, creating extra work for those of us who actually care. I thought I'd be past this by now, hence agreeing to this game, but apparently not.

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:24 am

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:20 am

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:20 am I have.
What's the commentary though?

Being cheeky because I like poking fun at Mac

so...
no point or????

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:20 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:48 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:43 pm Mm, I like talking about myself. Make me do it more.

You said "baddie" earlier. That is the term the founders of this forum used (and some still do) but I have not heard it much outside of us. I am curious to know where you played as well.

I just tend to start adopting a forum's local slang a bit. I say 'Indy' when playing here too, which I've not seen used anywhere else.

The one I can't accept is 'civilian', which is just such a mouthful when you could just say 'town' or 'vill'.




(Having skimmed through the discussion of my usage of this term that followed, it was pointless and I'm going to ignore it.)

I tend to believe this because civvie or civ is right there

I'll likely adopt 'civ' at some point, I suspect.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:52 am Maybe I should rephrase

Some of YOU can, I’m sure, make above rand reads (probably, most people don’t have above rand reads but that’s a tangent)

But I don’t know most/any of you enough to make an above rand read off behavior that I’m confident in, in a multiball game

Want to echo this. In this game set-up, and not knowing any of you particularly well, this D1 is a going to be bit of a crapshoot for me.

I already hate D1s, tbh. They're important in retrospect, but at the time they're messy. I hate mess.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:48 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:43 pm Mm, I like talking about myself. Make me do it more.

You said "baddie" earlier. That is the term the founders of this forum used (and some still do) but I have not heard it much outside of us. I am curious to know where you played as well.

I just tend to start adopting a forum's local slang a bit. I say 'Indy' when playing here too, which I've not seen used anywhere else.

The one I can't accept is 'civilian', which is just such a mouthful when you could just say 'town' or 'vill'.




(Having skimmed through the discussion of my usage of this term that followed, it was pointless and I'm going to ignore it.)

Mm, I like talking about myself. Make me do it more.

Okay, serious attempt at self-analysis and then I'm going to bed. (GMT, fyi.)

I've definitely evolved my style over the years, and activity/engagement will vary game to game, but generally as town I rely on analysing votes and wagons (and therefore hate D1/spend it town-clearing more so than anything). I like to re-read the flow of the thread at certain points (e.g. as wagons form/EoDs) rather than ISO individual players, though of course I do that too sometimes. It's time-consuming, though, so when I'm busy (as I am these days) I will rely more on waiting for posts to ping me and then hounding that player.

As scum I'm not afraid to bus to keep up any town cred I've gained, but otherwise try to keep my game simple and sneak into a towncore by trying to play to my town meta. If I don't succeed in that, I'm a fairly useless scummate and quite easy to find. But if I do succeed I'm pretty decent at deepwolfing, I like to think.

As indy I just make it up as I go, as Jay and Sloonei can confirm.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:36 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:32 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:26 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:25 pm New poll.

Favourite spread:

-Strawberry jam
-Marmalade
-Peanut Butter
-Marmite
-Vegemite

...think that covers it.

I can't answer this without knowing what surface I'm spreading things on.

Someone's naked body.

Oh. Nutella it is.

Do you mean nutella or...Nutella?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:32 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:28 pm Can anyone give me a run down of Radishes Meta?

I have never played with Radishes. He played in Inception, and apparently was MU tournament finalist a hundred years ago with jay. So my assumption is he knows the ropes.

@Master Radishes what can you tell us about your approach to mafia games?

I'm really the wrong person to say. In my mind I'm like a chimera, made up of many different mafia personas I can whip out as need be. My friends who play the most with me will laugh in my face and say differently.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:26 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:25 pm New poll.

Favourite spread:

-Strawberry jam
-Marmalade
-Peanut Butter
-Marmite
-Vegemite

...think that covers it.

I can't answer this without knowing what surface I'm spreading things on.

Someone's naked body.