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- Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:46 am
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021
Don't answer, Dizzy.
- Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:32 am
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That's a pasta btw.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:55 amTownMarmot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:49 pm Dear wolves,
Let’s make this clear so you don’t waste your time: I will not be one of your miselims this game.
You will soon think I could be, of course. Even with the postcap I will likely not be able to keep up with the tryhards on this roster, and I will inevitably be perceived as low-hanging fruit. ‘Marmot will be an easy chop’ you’ll think. ‘Probably a flash wagon candidate.’
But you will be mistaken. You simply won’t be able to mis-elim me. Not this time. I will pull out the WIM when I need to. I have tricks up my sleeves. In fact, save me the energy and just treat this post as an inno child claim. I am for all your intents and purposes untouchable. If you decide you want me out of this game, you will need to spend a kill on me.
It is not your fault you randed wolf, and I am nothing if not sympathetic to an unfortunate rand, so I give you this warning now to help you plan around it. Everyone deserves a fair shot.
In the words of Descartes, ‘I post therefore I am town’. Or, in the words of a more modern philosopher, ‘U Kant touch this’.
Good luck, wolves. Just don’t say I didn’t warn you.
- Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:13 am
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I mean I'm basically agreeing with you just not for the reason you brought up (being unnecessarily flowery about destroying wolves etc).Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:07 amMaybe. But of the few posts I looked at that is the one I remember as hitting as genuine rather than fake. I could be wrong, but I’m also often not wrong in early impressions. I just talk myself out if them later and crumble.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:52 amI've only played one game with Guillo, he was scum, and what you bring up feels entirely NAI for him.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:46 amHe said he was gonna destroy wolves and gets things done on his own. And I kind of buy it, seems unnecessary flowery as a mafia lie.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:40 amI saw exactly one post from guillo last night and my gut was leaning towards town as well. I don't remember what that post wasDyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:33 am But also there’s a lot of pretty hot and cute people in this game, so that helps.
I have one read and that is Guillo town. I’ll explain if that is controversial, but I don’t expect it to be.
That said, if I had to compare one game of scum meta to this game so far, I'd lean him being Town too. He was a bit...more shouty/aggro in his exaggerations in the scum game (Spiderverse I think), whereas here he is just sorta firmly stating his takes.
I always get 100% of my early impressions correct because at some point in D1 I think everyone is towny for something and then scummy for something different. So at some point I'm correct on everyone!
- Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:53 am
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Also, as someone who never reads the OP...did no one read the OP?
Like the first lines from Nanook demand and plead with you to read it. It has clearly stated from the beginning the whole 'choose mates or choose roles' thing.
No one is allowed to be derpcleared from this.
Like the first lines from Nanook demand and plead with you to read it. It has clearly stated from the beginning the whole 'choose mates or choose roles' thing.
No one is allowed to be derpcleared from this.
- Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:52 am
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I've only played one game with Guillo, he was scum, and what you bring up feels entirely NAI for him.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:46 amHe said he was gonna destroy wolves and gets things done on his own. And I kind of buy it, seems unnecessary flowery as a mafia lie.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:40 amI saw exactly one post from guillo last night and my gut was leaning towards town as well. I don't remember what that post wasDyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:33 am But also there’s a lot of pretty hot and cute people in this game, so that helps.
I have one read and that is Guillo town. I’ll explain if that is controversial, but I don’t expect it to be.
That said, if I had to compare one game of scum meta to this game so far, I'd lean him being Town too. He was a bit...more shouty/aggro in his exaggerations in the scum game (Spiderverse I think), whereas here he is just sorta firmly stating his takes.
- Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:23 am
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With Britain leaving the EU, how much space was created?
Exactly 1 GB.
Exactly 1 GB.
- Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:21 am
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Why does Britain like tea?
Because tea leaves.
Because tea leaves.
- Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:20 am
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An Englishman, a Scotsman and an Irishman walk into a bar.
The Englishman wanted to go so they all had to leave.
The Englishman wanted to go so they all had to leave.
- Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:16 am
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I don't know that anyone else would appreciate them as much as us, though.
- Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:15 am
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I would like to think there's not a single alignment indicative part of it too ngl.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:13 amI would like to think this is town too ngl.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:11 am I think I might vote to Leave the Game of Champions. I would escape the over-regulation of the Host and have more self-sovereignty. I could better control who I allow to speak to me. I could do more scum-hunting myself instead of allowing untold numbers of other Mafia players to come and take that job away from me. And Iall that time I am forced to pay to this game could be better spent on my health.
- Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:12 am
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[VOTE:
LEAVE] aubergine
- Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:11 am
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I think I might vote to Leave the Game of Champions. I would escape the over-regulation of the Host and have more self-sovereignty. I could better control who I allow to speak to me. I could do more scum-hunting myself instead of allowing untold numbers of other Mafia players to come and take that job away from me. And Iall that time I am forced to pay to this game could be better spent on my health.
- Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:05 am
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Not only am I not in Europe, I'm also not European.
- Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:42 am
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I'm in the UK.Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:34 am Who all are in my timezone? I am in West Europe, the Netherlands. It is 10:34 am here, so day starts at midnight for me, so it always take a while before I post during a day, because I can't play post midnight cuz of job.
Of course I know Dyslexicon is European too. Who else?
- Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:40 am
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- Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:47 am
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Re: GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021
Mafia
1. JPIC
1. JPIC
- Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:38 am
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Don't bother. I just copypasta'd.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:36 am Oh hi radishes
I have determined to read both you and c4’s iso because i think i can read you both decently well
Probably will check marmot’s iso if he is playing as well
- Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:33 am
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This is why I stayed up late, so that I'd only wake up to 25 pages.
- Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:32 am
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You also lose another town point for forcing a reciprocated read on me.
(Your point total is still in the black though.)
(Your point total is still in the black though.)
- Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:31 am
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You lose a town point for not asking me why I've reached my conclusion, and don't bother asking now I won't tell you.
- Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:10 am
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@112 how you feel about that homie
- Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:10 am
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I'm normally reluctant to give meta reads on CDCers, but 112 is likely just town here.
- Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:09 am
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Thanks Alison.
I'd actually come across most of that before I gave up reading. Makes me think the most recent pages are not worth reading (which makes sense because D1 mid-round sucks).
I'd actually come across most of that before I gave up reading. Makes me think the most recent pages are not worth reading (which makes sense because D1 mid-round sucks).
- Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:03 am
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- Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:02 am
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Btw when I asked at the beginning of the game to name the top Syndicate wolf of 2021 without checking,
it's BoKnows.
it's BoKnows.
- Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:01 am
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- Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:00 am
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I tried catching up but there's too much.
Someone round up the headlines for me.
Someone round up the headlines for me.
- Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:58 am
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No don't this just gets you vigged instead.Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:49 pm Dear wolves,
Let’s make this clear so you don’t waste your time: I will not be one of your miselims this game.
You will soon think I could be, of course. Even with the postcap I will likely not be able to keep up with the tryhards on this roster, and I will inevitably be perceived as low-hanging fruit. ‘Marmot will be an easy chop’ you’ll think. ‘Probably a flash wagon candidate.’
But you will be mistaken. You simply won’t be able to mis-elim me. Not this time. I will pull out the WIM when I need to. I have tricks up my sleeves. In fact, save me the energy and just treat this post as an inno child claim. I am for all your intents and purposes untouchable. If you decide you want me out of this game, you will need to spend a kill on me.
It is not your fault you randed wolf, and I am nothing if not sympathetic to an unfortunate rand, so I give you this warning now to help you plan around it. Everyone deserves a fair shot.
In the words of Descartes, ‘I post therefore I am town’. Or, in the words of a more modern philosopher, ‘U Kant touch this’.
Good luck, wolves. Just don’t say I didn’t warn you.
- Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:22 pm
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alright good night, go along with my plan if you have a big dick
- Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:22 pm
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Policy chop players with strong reps
???
Profit
???
Profit
- Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:20 pm
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For real though, alexa and nutella are doing nothing to dissuade my pre-game assumption that all or most of alexa/nutella/mac/alison are chosen wolves.
Let's get chopping.
Let's get chopping.
- Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:19 pm
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- Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:15 pm
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- Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:10 pm
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Did you guys know that 'KZA' backwards is 'KZA'
- Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:07 pm
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Alison CCing me??
Let's dome
Let's dome
- Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:05 pm
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Jack is actually co-leader with Mystery Mafia Pro tbh.Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:04 pmI'd guess Jack or TSPMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:02 pm Actually someone without cheating tell me who won the most games in 2021 as a wolf.
They're in this game.
- Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:04 pm
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Falcon just scum irl tbh.
- Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:04 pm
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Falcon has most wins total of anyone, but most were as town.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:03 pmFalcon was scum in like every game so falcon?Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:02 pm Actually someone without cheating tell me who won the most games in 2021 as a wolf.
They're in this game.
- Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:02 pm
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Actually someone without cheating tell me who won the most games in 2021 as a wolf.
They're in this game.
They're in this game.
- Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:02 pm
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Anyway, let's just policy chop, like, Mac or Alison.
If one flips wolf then the captain chose their team.
Ez clap.
If one flips wolf then the captain chose their team.
Ez clap.
- Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:01 pm
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- Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:59 pm
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(I hear that copypasting the previous year's winner in a championship game is the key to success.)
(But ffs all of Alison's posts are repetitive and unusable in a different context.)
(But ffs all of Alison's posts are repetitive and unusable in a different context.)
- Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:42 pm
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alright good night, go along with my plan if you have a big dick
- Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:37 pm
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not copypasta, legit claim
- Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:36 pm
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Hard claiming Gambit Demon from Shadow Corridors. It's a little modified from the original version but still keeps the spirit of it. Here's the basic rundown.
- I offer a permanent ability to someone at night. abilities are: track, roleblock, silence (can't speak during next day), disenfranchise (can't vote during next day), give a post restriction, thieving (steal the abilities of who you voted for), protecting, bus driving
- If my offer is accepting, they gain the ability, but I can choose one of two options: either all night actions cast on me get redirected to them the next night OR all votes cast on me get redirected to them the next day.
- I fulfil my win condition if the number of people who I've bargained with exceed the number of people who haven't.
I'm gonna offer the same deal that I proposed in shadow corridors. Y'all come up with consensus town and I'll offer powers to them. In exchange I get a free win, you get free power roles, everyone profits.
FAQ
- how do we know you aren't tricking us into some horrible fate???
take it on trust, host read that they aren't going to have a 3P nuke half the game in GOC, whatever. In Shadow Corridors I proposed some tactics to guard against 3P betrayal, you can try those. Yes I know I was mafia that game but my tactics were legit.
- what if the mafia soupkills you???
imagine being a coward and soupkilling the gambit demon instead of trying to go deep and get the power offered to you instead
- how do we know you're not mafia pretending to be a 3P???
my plan is pretty clearly laid out to give me a free win while also helping the town out. I fully intend to have "auto" from post 1 and will be putting in close to 0 effort to solve or influence the game from this point on. It doesn't make much strategical sense for me to do that if I'm mafia, especially since it will become too obvious that I'm lying about being 3P as the game goes on.
- how do we know you won't side with the mafia after you win like the original Gambit Demon did???
Long Con sided with mafia because he was sentimental and wanted to root for the underdog. I am not sentimental. Siding with the mafia after the town gave me my win is pointless. I have already gotten my win; putting in extra effort is not only meaningless, it actively compromises my ability to make further deals in this vein when I roll 3P in the future. It's strictly suboptimal to do that, so you can be pretty sure I won't do it.
make sure to @ me if you want to tell me who your consensus town to bargain is or have any questions/comments, since I won't be reading the thread closely.
- I offer a permanent ability to someone at night. abilities are: track, roleblock, silence (can't speak during next day), disenfranchise (can't vote during next day), give a post restriction, thieving (steal the abilities of who you voted for), protecting, bus driving
- If my offer is accepting, they gain the ability, but I can choose one of two options: either all night actions cast on me get redirected to them the next night OR all votes cast on me get redirected to them the next day.
- I fulfil my win condition if the number of people who I've bargained with exceed the number of people who haven't.
I'm gonna offer the same deal that I proposed in shadow corridors. Y'all come up with consensus town and I'll offer powers to them. In exchange I get a free win, you get free power roles, everyone profits.
FAQ
- how do we know you aren't tricking us into some horrible fate???
take it on trust, host read that they aren't going to have a 3P nuke half the game in GOC, whatever. In Shadow Corridors I proposed some tactics to guard against 3P betrayal, you can try those. Yes I know I was mafia that game but my tactics were legit.
- what if the mafia soupkills you???
imagine being a coward and soupkilling the gambit demon instead of trying to go deep and get the power offered to you instead
- how do we know you're not mafia pretending to be a 3P???
my plan is pretty clearly laid out to give me a free win while also helping the town out. I fully intend to have "auto" from post 1 and will be putting in close to 0 effort to solve or influence the game from this point on. It doesn't make much strategical sense for me to do that if I'm mafia, especially since it will become too obvious that I'm lying about being 3P as the game goes on.
- how do we know you won't side with the mafia after you win like the original Gambit Demon did???
Long Con sided with mafia because he was sentimental and wanted to root for the underdog. I am not sentimental. Siding with the mafia after the town gave me my win is pointless. I have already gotten my win; putting in extra effort is not only meaningless, it actively compromises my ability to make further deals in this vein when I roll 3P in the future. It's strictly suboptimal to do that, so you can be pretty sure I won't do it.
make sure to @ me if you want to tell me who your consensus town to bargain is or have any questions/comments, since I won't be reading the thread closely.