The Syndicate

Evenstar wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:59 pm And I've now read your updated Rabbit case and that looks good too. Scales are definitely tipping towards Epi being the scum in your pair. I don't like that because it means Dom's probably town, but I can deal.

[mention]Evenstar[/mention] why do you have epi/Dom not w/w

but it's so weak and weird that it's hard to imagine being scum agenda

but I can't rule it out as agenda because how else can pawn get to a lockscum read on epi as scum lol

pretty sure you just responded to the one part of pawns worldview that nobody was prone to fully buying anyway

but yea if you're concerned I agree that's pawns weakest case on any read he's made in this day

the idiom "can dish it out but can't take it" strongly comes to mind though

I have thoughts on Dom's posts on the last page but they're postgame thoughts.

I am also ultimately going to continue to give pawn a pass because he really is my stable rock and making more sense to me on almost everything than everyone else

so the last list of 5 I posted, remove pawn, and that's my 4

I mean, ngl, I can't even be confident that the spiny flip that Eva posted was accurate, she could've forged it and I'd be buying it.

but still not gonna sus into that world

keep circling within sprit dom radishes pawn epi so ill just say thats my list of 5 ill vote in there for now

im just calling it a kill you know what i mean etc

i dont recall anybody else seriously reading into the nook kill other than you

did epi do it at all?

iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:00 am can you quote the strongest bits of insight from epi

[mention]Master Radishes[/mention]

would like to wake up to a mention with this, please and thank you

gn

my heart keeps telling me to type

{pawn sprityo dom}

but ye its a bit strange

but i mean yeah your logics a bit weird

wouldnt keeping him alive to keep sussing the towncore sow suspicion on its own?

why would scum assume people would even remember nooks reads

this day actually mirrors d1 in a lot of ways except pawn is my new 112

i miss 112

i actually never paid attention to nooks reads that much last phase lol

so i cant corroborate if what pawn is saying is accurate

and uh isnt that like level 2 logic

isnt level 1 logic pointing at nook was possibly nk'd cuz he was correctly sussing you?

the status quo thing is exactly what jack said

but it seemed like an original thought from jack and possibly opportunistic from epi

but i can't rule out it being w/w and you guys just hard distancing or even epi being town and finally coming around on you despite being stubborn for no reason on you before that moment which is certainly believable

can you quote the strongest bits of insight from epi

[mention]Pawn Lelouch[/mention] you too, uptrends downtrends?

is it still epi dom sprityo for you?

question mark

radishes any notably updated thoughts on dom, jack, sprityo, and epi's most recent posting

yeah i dont think its actually possible either but by the flavor i feel like the deepest layer has to be extra influential somehow

bruh i hope the deepest inception layer doesnt like

have the whole game riding on it

thatd feel pretty bad if i lost this whole game somehow

if youre scumclaiming at me then i like it town ponits for you pawn

god arteezy stream is such a trip man

you tell me man

also i just remembered i actually liked radishes mid d1 for quite awhile before becoming paranoid he was pocketing me and being too reasonable

so a similar process to today lol

radishes may be my favorite root vegetable

things i like about radishes:

he's consistent about prioritizing eod behavior in analysis strongly and recognizing that in others (his read on epi)
i like the beginning of his iso this game day, lots of perspective melding though i didnt agree with his early list that strongly, but i like that i'm his strongest townread... maybe? maybe i shouldnt like that

things i dont like about radishes:

kinda fits with dom and epi if thats a world
earlier stuff from previous days i cant remember or check

yeah wish we knew if nova was scum

i like this response though so thank you

i know that last part isnt logically true but

like

thats kind of how my logic worked for starting to explore pawn and you worlds

if im the pocketed its gotta be one of you two pocketing me and i need to evaluate these worlds

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:46 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:45 am {dom epig radishes} still works i guess if we're going for scum who dont like to shade partners much
I just read four or five pages of posts with you constantly putting me in your bottom three, and I must have missed why?

i still sussed you n1 while i reread the thread and reread your d1 iso and i didnt like your push on evenstar d2. maybe i overstated the godfather logic, but overall your eod analysis still felt like an agendaed way to push a town player in my eyes.

from d1 in particular, i didnt remember much of a progression on dragomir leading up to the vote, and i remember that bothering me. i remember some other stuff bothering me about your d1 too, but i dont remember what now

i remember you responding to that in d2 with some logic of why you didnt want to vote 112, but idk its not a defense i could ever clear you on

if im to townread jack i have to believe he has to be right at least one thing this day, and its going to be either you or pawn and now im trying to evaluate which i can fit better

{dom epig radishes} still works i guess if we're going for scum who dont like to shade partners much

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:00 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:56 am
Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:55 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:53 am Lol Dom would you be mad if I said “all of them?”
lol only a little
iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:53 am what are doms reads again
Are you asking for a bottom three or an everyone list?
everyone if youve got the energy
I generally don't do that-- not quite my style.

But in good faith because I'm trying to understand you and what not, I'll play along. (It's mostly because there's only like 9 of us)

ColinIsCool - I don't see a reason to suspect or not to suspect. Wish he posted and engaged more.
Dom - best person. supatown
Epignosis - I'd lean town.
Evenstar - I think it's pretty egregious that she missed a huge flaw in the mechanical reason why she thinks you're town. It's either a big oof or a big bad.
iaafr - I think you're pretty scummy. I think we've detailed that.
Jackofhearts2005 - I'd lean bad, but I'm liking what I'm seeing in the past few hours.
Master Radishes - Fell off my radar today. Don't like that.
Pawn Lelouch - I can't get a read on the guy.
sprityo - yucky

just got around to reading this readslist in more detail and

not a fan i dont think still, and not just because of me being one of the main scumreads still

hate the thing on evenstar it just reads as a nitpick that feels like a gotcha but isnt in the slightest

im trusting the eva clear because its the only thing that makes complete sense to me in this game and if that somehow loses me the game then oh well

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:33 pm Here, I saved the wording of her flip:

"You are the subconscious aspect of conscientiousness.

You represent the mark’s steadfastness in the proper and thorough completion of tasks set before them.

You begin the game with the knowledge that REDACTED is an aspect of the subconscious and not an intruder.

REDACTED

You will win the game if all threats to the subconscious mind are eliminated."

quoting this once again

this was boo's flip

boo was spiny's slot

spiny began the game with knowledge that a player was town aligned

spiny hard townread eva d1

shes mech clear to me from boo's flip which had a confirmed town in it and i recall spiny top towning eva day 1

and her process is also extremely towny on a lot of levels

shes still correct in reading me town though and im still baffled how few townreads im getting

its not about being welcoming or not welcoming, and ill accept the jab at me being bad at handling suspicion in the moment

it's about evaluating whether it's agendaed or not

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:03 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:00 am you just said frankly 3 times in your last two posts pawn

thats not a good look my friend
Welcome to my verbal tics emporium. Might I interest you in seeing the genuinely exhibit? Or perhaps the honestly one? That's an old favorite of mine.

i mean i have my own with "literally" and "genuinely" too so yeah i can relate

that isnt the crux of me sussing you rn at all was just tongue in cheek

oh wait you mean why you shouldve given a fuck

like...

you showing up in anybodys bottom 3 will either be town incorrectly pushing you or scum capitalizing on town incorrectly pushing you so searching through the people saying theyre willing to kill you isnt a bad place to start and it should alarm you that pawns the cleanest guy sussing you like that

if you disagree thats fine idk

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:00 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:59 am maybe i just think pawn/dom/epi because neither dom or epi seemed to be concerned that pawn bottom 3'd them both until i brought it up to them... persistently...
I still don't get why I should give a fuck.

im not asking you specifically to give a fuck

but if anybody happens to agree with me that the team seems plausible they should holla

contrast how i handle my suspicion with you with epi repeatedly asking me to answer a question i've already answered and it not actually helping his read on me

you just said frankly 3 times in your last two posts pawn

thats not a good look my friend

maybe i just think pawn/dom/epi because neither dom or epi seemed to be concerned that pawn bottom 3'd them both until i brought it up to them... persistently...

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:55 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:53 am Lol Dom would you be mad if I said “all of them?”
lol only a little
iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:53 am what are doms reads again
Are you asking for a bottom three or an everyone list?

everyone if youve got the energy

i mean i hate that epi list that dom just quoted too lol

dont know what to think of him feeling somewhat comfortable with defaulting to that list in this gamestate and the reasons all kinda suck

what are doms reads again

so yeah pawn radishes dom fits better than other combos of 3 im seeing

pawn sprityo dom with heavy distancing between sprityo and dom possible too...?

radishes did call out pawn and apparently jack thinks pawn buddied radishes...?

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:51 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:03 pm iaafr, Pawn Lelouch
help me out here, what am I doing wrong
this PoE sucks but I can't seem to see the game a different way
Honestly I agree with the core of it. Since it seems too damn simple but I can't come up with anything else.

I'm never going after you or iaafr. So 6 slots and I am ultimately 3 tiering this since I don't think anyone else here is on the same level of cleared as you two.

Epi, Jack, Sprityo, Dom, Radishes, Colin.

So while Epi has some emotions in terms of annoyance it's not that much and frankly isn't a town tell. Most people would be annoyed in that scenario so it is hard NAI. Then the rabbit push is very eh. I'm honestly unsure if I want him in bottom or middle still, but I guess I'll drop him in for now.

I can agree that Jack has looked better in regards to trying to remove out the current POE and actually participating. Most of them are kinda fluffy but I like his approach to Radishes and there was decent insight when he commented on Michelle.

Dom just has baseless aggression and that's it.

Radishes is weird for me. He has similar thought processes but timings and amount of work make it possible that he's trying to pocket me. So there's sus there but I'm not hitting him today imo.

Colin has some flailing but again, there's nothing actually clearing here. It's enough that he isn't the option today but that's it.

Maybe it's just me but there wasn't anything supremely clearing about the emotional outburst. I get why you're reading him town off it, it could be enough to bump if there was more but he still doesn't have the best look in thread. At the very least since we need 3 I don't see enough to move him to the middle.

{Jack, Radishes, Colin}
{Epi, Dom, Sprityo}

this is pawns most recent big readspost

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/search ... sf=msgonly

heres the dom iso link if you want it

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