The Syndicate

in a lot of worlds this clears me unless you thought i prepped claiming vanilla d1 d2 but having a dayvig d3 and hoping itd be explainable

but im not gonna like argue it hardclears me im kinda obvtown anyway

was hoping to red him but like

yeah

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:14 pm

iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:12 pm btw im no longer vanilla

i thought of killing leetic just because he annoys me tbh but i think i have a better use of my current role

did you become no longer vanilla just this sod?

n2 universal backup

ok i just flipped NAA town with the loyal dayvig (backed up nanook)

so apparently im likely 2/3 or 1/3

btw im no longer vanilla

i thought of killing leetic just because he annoys me tbh but i think i have a better use of my current role

esooa's nature of townreading mac came to me a lot more fake and agenda'd than nutella's

i stared at both of their mac progressions for awhile overnight

anne wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:06 pm

iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:03 pm btw idk if it came through or people will believe me but

i never wanted anne to go over mac

i thought keeping it close would possibly produce more ai stuff / possibly clear marmot via the tie mech

were you still able to vote even though you couldn't post or?

i have been freely changing votes via poll because i saw no rules indicating i shouldnt be able to do so

i was on mac at 7/4 at one point but switched back to you for the aforementioned reasons

though its not like i was hard townreading you, i just thought mac was a better flip regardless

btw idk if it came through or people will believe me but

i never wanted anne to go over mac

i thought keeping it close would possibly produce more ai stuff / possibly clear marmot via the tie mech

gg cassandra

i thought anne's eod was villagery and now think it might be naa/esooa

iaafr wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:17 am notanaxehole has been people pleasing yet extremely opportunistic with finding reasons to scumread any apparent viable miss in the gamestate. this has shifted from esooa/wilgy early in the day, to spf, to marmot. none of these are organic, all of these are in lockstep with actual town players expressing suspicion on those slots.

his progression on anne is handwavey and nonsensical. his aim while in the thread is to keep discussion on scumreading and scumcasing viable misses. he is lock scum.

@ilario you flipped off your good naa scumread btw




macdougall has still not made a decent scumread this day. his scumread on me sucks and is the kind of confbias that doesn't arise naturally in the way it did. there's no fire, there's no apparent readiness to find me if town and follow up on crushing scum together. he played his way into having a scumread that looked decent on surface level existing in the thread, and farted a bunch, and dipped.

lock scum.




anne

idk she's probably playing fine and i'd probably townread her if not for like, extreme apparent demotivation and gamestate stuff, as well as reads and metareads from other people, but she still makes sense on multiple levels as the third maf. the reasons to townread her by lime coke and ilario feel questionable, weak, she's posting fine but there's no bite or force, her participation feels obligatory, and while she's gotten demoralized in a town game i've been with her in before (champs but different) the nature of how she got demoralized was different and her d1 play still felt different. idk. i could see myself being wrong here, but i still kill this before any of

my obvtown reads: spf, cassandra, marmot, nutella, lime coke, ilario/leetic, dyslexicon, drwilgy, esooa, falcon

whoops i just named every other slot. so yea anne is lock scum too.


same exact poe as cassandra's mid day poe, same poe as dizzy's with esooa replaced w/ i forget who, similar to spf's

we're forming a consensus townblock with consensus reads but we're sick and right and it's not a sign of a bad gamestate that this is happening



stop townreading anne, your association and gamestate reads suck, her team couldn't do anything about her being wagoned, some distancing was necessary for wolf wincon so jay parking doesnt clear her either, kill her.

stop townreading mac, even if he managed to produce 1 sort of towny page, it's a page where he scumreads me and gets stuck on it, kill him

stop townreading notanaxehole, all of his shifts are opportunistic and are there to be in sync with your bad scumreads and make u feel good about them. his marmot scumread sounds good but is just a meta comparison that marmot's already pointed out the lack of validity of. his spf scumread i still don't even get. blah blah etc kill him.


stop scumreading nutella, all her thoughts samebrained with me to some extent except for randomly tinfoiling alexa/lc on bong rips, the nature of how she was wrong on jay was the uninformed version, scum nutella is a lot more awkward and probably doesn't even come up with scumreading town alexa/lc as an option in this game from TMI perspective; she's just town.

stop scumreading esooa, she's obvtowning via perspective and wants a more interesting world than the ez world, but all of her reads are just from uninformed perspective and i don't think she ever resorts to a full readslist, like, that's just not the scum esooa version, she'd sweet talk the town into townreading her with less words than that.

stop scumreading marmot, he's a fuzzy wittle wascal

stop scumreading spf, she's really extremely gay, like, trust-tell levels of being gay here (legal disclaimer: not a serious accusation of a trust tell)





think that about covers it

also fuck the police 101/100 (gonna shut up till eod tho)

I have only one post this eod and I'm just gonna reiterate this worldview

voting me is garbo and cringe

if I'm wrong on one of my 3 wolves the most likely wolf is prob marmot

don't care to say more, voting biggest wagon in my Poe at eod regardless

notanaxehole has been people pleasing yet extremely opportunistic with finding reasons to scumread any apparent viable miss in the gamestate. this has shifted from esooa/wilgy early in the day, to spf, to marmot. none of these are organic, all of these are in lockstep with actual town players expressing suspicion on those slots.

his progression on anne is handwavey and nonsensical. his aim while in the thread is to keep discussion on scumreading and scumcasing viable misses. he is lock scum.

@ilario you flipped off your good naa scumread btw




macdougall has still not made a decent scumread this day. his scumread on me sucks and is the kind of confbias that doesn't arise naturally in the way it did. there's no fire, there's no apparent readiness to find me if town and follow up on crushing scum together. he played his way into having a scumread that looked decent on surface level existing in the thread, and farted a bunch, and dipped.

lock scum.




anne

idk she's probably playing fine and i'd probably townread her if not for like, extreme apparent demotivation and gamestate stuff, as well as reads and metareads from other people, but she still makes sense on multiple levels as the third maf. the reasons to townread her by lime coke and ilario feel questionable, weak, she's posting fine but there's no bite or force, her participation feels obligatory, and while she's gotten demoralized in a town game i've been with her in before (champs but different) the nature of how she got demoralized was different and her d1 play still felt different. idk. i could see myself being wrong here, but i still kill this before any of

my obvtown reads: spf, cassandra, marmot, nutella, lime coke, ilario/leetic, dyslexicon, drwilgy, esooa, falcon

whoops i just named every other slot. so yea anne is lock scum too.


same exact poe as cassandra's mid day poe, same poe as dizzy's with esooa replaced w/ i forget who, similar to spf's

we're forming a consensus townblock with consensus reads but we're sick and right and it's not a sign of a bad gamestate that this is happening



stop townreading anne, your association and gamestate reads suck, her team couldn't do anything about her being wagoned, some distancing was necessary for wolf wincon so jay parking doesnt clear her either, kill her.

stop townreading mac, even if he managed to produce 1 sort of towny page, it's a page where he scumreads me and gets stuck on it, kill him

stop townreading notanaxehole, all of his shifts are opportunistic and are there to be in sync with your bad scumreads and make u feel good about them. his marmot scumread sounds good but is just a meta comparison that marmot's already pointed out the lack of validity of. his spf scumread i still don't even get. blah blah etc kill him.


stop scumreading nutella, all her thoughts samebrained with me to some extent except for randomly tinfoiling alexa/lc on bong rips, the nature of how she was wrong on jay was the uninformed version, scum nutella is a lot more awkward and probably doesn't even come up with scumreading town alexa/lc as an option in this game from TMI perspective; she's just town.

stop scumreading esooa, she's obvtowning via perspective and wants a more interesting world than the ez world, but all of her reads are just from uninformed perspective and i don't think she ever resorts to a full readslist, like, that's just not the scum esooa version, she'd sweet talk the town into townreading her with less words than that.

stop scumreading marmot, he's a fuzzy wittle wascal

stop scumreading spf, she's really extremely gay, like, trust-tell levels of being gay here (legal disclaimer: not a serious accusation of a trust tell)





think that about covers it

also fuck the police 101/100 (gonna shut up till eod tho)

boutta postcap tho so gl working with others

I'm town

d2ing me in this game is possibly one of the worst d2s possible

I'm not locked on Mac as I might seem at points (I never am) but yeah idk I have trouble not townreading the ppl not in my poe

im actually not better than that but if you can come up with a more compelling poe that doesn't include me that'd be the first step towards bridging our deeply damaged connection and guiding this town towards virtue and victory

spf and anne have seen me be memey and aloof in multiple recent towngames

that post was about the expression of the townread on you sod2

gl with that

[VOTE: macdougall] aubergine

i mean i am essentially semi-hard shielding her today because i think shes the most likely miss by gamestate due to real tunnels from my townreads

but like

if they stay convinced im not the type to truly stop it because im not confident enough to bet the game on her alignment and if theyre that convinced i probably want them to see the flip anyway

but i dont see how it cant easily be read as v/v or v/w, which it has to be fmpov

i dont think i even express that townread as scum

or if i do i express it with a ton more reservation so that my agendaed turn on you looks more believable

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:50 pm

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:49 pm anyway this is post 91/100 for me

gonna "save" posts again (will probably blow them whenever i think of funny stuff to post rather than actual substantive and helpful things to post

my worldview and preferred course of action remains "nuke naa/mac/anne in any order then re-eval after"

glhf

i don't buy your progression on me from the start of the day to here... you went from townreading me, and then when SPF voted for me you started acting as if you were always scumreading me

i got convinced that maybe its naive to clear you for those associations, which was my main reason (see the two posts i made about hating everybody's association reads including my own)

and like

i have been scumreading you for quite some time in this game

and also my progression not being explicit and easily followable is a towntell for me

if youre town you could be right on spf? idk? im certainty a horrible direction though

)

anyway this is post 91/100 for me

gonna "save" posts again (will probably blow them whenever i think of funny stuff to post rather than actual substantive and helpful things to post

my worldview and preferred course of action remains "nuke naa/mac/anne in any order then re-eval after"

glhf

well im not exactly sure this is the dynamic in this game but

v/v/v/v/v/v/v/v alexa/nutella/iaafr/lc/spf/marmot/leetic/ilario

is an inherently demoralizing rand from scum perspective

so a lot of assumptions of scum getting more done for the sake of their agenda might be explained simply by lack of motivation

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:44 pmneat

bruh arent you townreading nutella

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:40 pm we must kill them all to uphold the virtue of independent thinking

ebwop

sigh i hate fucking up these posts

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:40 pm

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:34 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:33 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:25 pm Still don't think anne's scum, if Wilgy or Axehole flips bad I might consider it but for now there are much better actions

Not really buying the case on Mac right now either

For Anne to be scum I'm pretty sure I have to be as well. I know that is not the case, but can attempt to view from an outside perspective and still don't see that as the case.

explain why your town alignment confirms anne's? i am missing this logic entirely (may have missed the posts, sorry)

We went from wagon Anne to wagon Jay when I was at 5 votes.

I see little reason why scum, if 2 scum buddies in Anne and Jay were in danger wouldn't have made me the yeet leader.

if the team is, say, afk-at-eod mac, afk-at-eod anne, and widely suspected and ill-regarded NAA, it's not like scum really had the clout to do anything about anything that happened at EOD

we must kill them all the uphold the virtue of independent thinking

you're a sacrifice im willing to make, falco

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:33 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:25 pm Still don't think anne's scum, if Wilgy or Axehole flips bad I might consider it but for now there are much better actions

Not really buying the case on Mac right now either

For Anne to be scum I'm pretty sure I have to be as well. I know that is not the case, but can attempt to view from an outside perspective and still don't see that as the case.

explain why your town alignment confirms anne's? i am missing this logic entirely (may have missed the posts, sorry)

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by my own meta, hopping off of jay isn't quite as town indicative as the fact that i hopped on/off anne/jay twice before people were calling for jay cfd and while it was unclear jay was going to be in contention at all (its pretty anti wincon to put the name in peoples heads at that point if im not determined already to bus earlier than that)

wow tfw alexa has nearly my exact ordering

the magnitude of meld

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:19 pm NAA's reasoning to scumread me is weird since he's already played a game with me as T/T and knows that me overexplaining my reads isnt a wolftell

ive been here confbiasing anne/naa/mac (before mac it was like a pool of not mac but then i got reminded maybe mac) since sod and laughing at everybody with different reads and one of my only points of doubt is "could my entire scumteam just be town and right on spf" and then im like "lmao naaaaaah"

literally cant stop laughing whenever LC gets into a winrate measuring contest

i have a 0% winrate on this website btw, we're fucked, town

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:15 pm

iaafr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:14 pm NAA, when/why did you start suspecting spf

skimmed your iso and i feel like it came out of nowhere

I started suspecting SPF when Mac mentioned it last night (I also voted SPF at the time for a short while before switching back to Dizzy.

yea but mac didnt exactly articulate why either iirc

still kind of confused on the reasons

NAA, when/why did you start suspecting spf

skimmed your iso and i feel like it came out of nowhere

lmfao

just gonna say

Nutella individually considering that you two could be scum isn't really broadening the Poe in terms of affecting the larger gamestate unless she tries to sell it

and hypocrisy isn't really scum indicative, usually just nai to towny even

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:22 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:20 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:42 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:39 am Why are illario and leetic in the poll together?

you had like a zillion hours to read the thread during night phase im not babying you

You said that she had a zillion hours, when town thought she would have had six hours at most. You also said during the night phase, when town thought the night phase would last only two hours at most. This just feels too offhanded to be anything other than a slip.

I'm sure that reading into slips will net you a fortuitous future

ive internally debated engaging with leetics methods and ultimately decided against it

what came off as a bastardization (maybe more accurately, caricature) of your town game was the moment you claimed protective 3x in response to zero votes and nutella floating paranoia

and "95%? might as well not call it a townread at all"

felt like an extra cartoonish version of your known sensitivity to sus

tbh I just found it funny but I'm p sure that's what esooa was referring to specifically

LMAO

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:34 pm

cassandra wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:19 pm Ok Wilgy is towny when he drops the gimmick

Tbh I thought Mr was a bad shot because I had him as town, I think shooting the main CW (Anne) wouldve been correct there, though I wouldn't have cried about a Mac shot.

Fair then. I still haven't really read day 1, but it was JJJ's iso that led me to MR.

My suspicion on Nutella kept me from inquiring the CW. Anne is locktown if Nutella flips scum yes?

Mac was going to take our time regardless of if it was my shot or a yeet.

PoE is pretty straightforward:
Mac, Nutella, Dizzy, Esooa

Falcon will be added if Mac flips red. Anne will be added if Nutella flips green, NAA will be added if Esooa flips red.

Contest me on these 50/50s plz.

I don't know if we win if Ilario, Iaafr, Leetic, Marmot, SPF or Cass is scum without some mechanical savior button.

currently not inclined to believe there is one in the last group, but if there is, the game will probably narrow down to there obviously being one left there and it's not like an impossible endgame to root out the one godwolf in that group

anyway nuts still town and I'm gonna keep dodging the thread for awhile

yea it was a fine shot

im here telling you i think any of {anne naa mac} are currently superior votes to nutella in my head but u do u

going to sleep for real now gn glhf

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:50 am Idk, that JJJ yeet was solid. I think I did a good job clearing a slot that would cause us trouble at least in terms of PoE.

Get how I'll need to be pulled out of PoE eventually, but for now Nutella or Mac I wanna know.

i mean he was an ic but you couldnt have known that though

i like how youre framing the shot as a positive thing to assuage your own ego though, it's a towny pov

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:47 am Bruh I already shot lol

well i mean with votes too

if you end up flipping nutella villager today pls locktown me and sheep my poe

wilgy if you are town you should want to kill into { anne naa mac esooa dizzy } with my emphasis on the first three

i almost wanna flip mac first to see if falcon could somehow be w/w there

marmot iaafr and nutella are all obvious town

annenaamac

my main concern with mac is he farts just way too much