The Syndicate

Eh, I think you did fine, I just didn't properly weigh my own reads. This loss is solely my fault (and axe obviously)

Naw it wasn't your fault, i actually correctly found you town and just incorrectly weighted other stuff heavier, thats not your fault lol

Axe can no longer read urist confirmed

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:18 pm I think town concensus was correct exactly 0 days.

It was correct the day falcon was getting modkilled, which was entirely unhelpful since, ya know, he was getting modkilled

I blame @NotAnAxehole exclusively

I feel like it's probably urist but the nks are weird if so. I'm gonna blame star in post if it is. I'm honestly not sure creature can manage this kind of game as scum, if im underestimating him then gg.

If this shot is wrong, town left alive flips a coin between saving themselves and saving me, if you still have a save (presumably game ends if you don't)

@dunya shoot daisy plz

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:45 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:22 pm Idk game is hard I feel like if I went back and read isos I could probably sort it but I dont have that kinda time
You'll probably have to read ISOs at this point because the last wolf should be quite equipped to project themselves here considering all they have to do is not get shot here.

Yeah F3 is the worst for making reads on

Can we call it a cordial draw

Idk game is hard I feel like if I went back and read isos I could probably sort it but I dont have that kinda time

I made it clear everyone but me was to blame

Tbf the votes were 1/1/1 with urist not voting iirc

I did my best

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 8:04 pm dizzy rolling in his grave at the ddl kill yesterday

Yeah lol

But

In theory I could get another shot off but it doesn't seem likely

If this is wrong I blame you all

@dunya shoot ddl plz

Yeah lol

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 9:44 pm Shouldn't we claim the last 2 nights

I mean what else do we have to lose now

No

Anyways

@dunya shoot wilgy please

You're making a confident statement then when asked why you're so confident saying what amounts to "who can know why mafia do what they do"

Lol

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 19, 2022 11:22 am Point is, Guillo in this game focused all his attacks and analyses on 4 people: Michelle, Creature, hollowkat and Urist

Would he choose to only attack his teammates (and one townie) all game and avoid interaction with all other townies? I... don't know. He seems like the type of crazy bastard who might. And the setup certainly allows for it. But damn, that's risky, what if you started taking him seriously? Because he was a loud voice and a strong presence. What if other people started taking him seriously too and you felt compelled to hear the masses?

One teammate? Sure. Two? Maybe. All three? Wow.

I don't think there'd be a strong belief on guillo's part that I'd follow him particularly closely on shots.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 19, 2022 11:15 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:47 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 19, 2022 8:13 am Urist and Creature are not both scum. I know Guillo can bus, but there's a limit for everything. He bussed Michelle, he's not bussing his other 2 teammates too.

He talks a bit to me sometimes and is usually to pocket me. Makes sense because I was townreading him all game.

The other 3, he has no opinions on. Sometimes he talks to them, but it's always about his suspects: HK, Dizzy, Urist, Creature.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:13 am People who went under my radar undetected so far are daisy, falcon and wilgy.
The other wolf is in this trio. Possibly both wolves, but I hate the way he cased Creature all game.
Elaborate on the bolded, please
Uh Guillo and Michelle were both scum, Guillo started a case on Michelle before everyone else did, and made solid arguments at that.

He threw her under the bus big time.

Ofc this isnt regular mafia and only you can tell if he did influence you or not, but if we are acting under the premise what we say here matters then scum attacking other scum is always dangerous for scum.

Right, i more was wanting you to elaborate on why you think guillo would bus Michelle specifically but not other partners

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 19, 2022 8:13 am Urist and Creature are not both scum. I know Guillo can bus, but there's a limit for everything. He bussed Michelle, he's not bussing his other 2 teammates too.

He talks a bit to me sometimes and is usually to pocket me. Makes sense because I was townreading him all game.

The other 3, he has no opinions on. Sometimes he talks to them, but it's always about his suspects: HK, Dizzy, Urist, Creature.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:13 am People who went under my radar undetected so far are daisy, falcon and wilgy.
The other wolf is in this trio. Possibly both wolves, but I hate the way he cased Creature all game.

Elaborate on the bolded, please

Associatives don't just magically spring up

Push people plz

Forgot to let you guys know but im probably gonna shoot tomorrow im kinda unexpectedly busy today

Don't everyone find the last two mafia at once

Mm, lots of room for false clears even without mafia messing with it

Why are you claiming

Don't start claiming

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:58 pm I think we should all claim last night actions. Including nanook savers. There are potential clears to be made here.

That said nanook should decide on whether we do that or not and maybe he could decide on an order for players to claim if he wants.

That doesn't seem like a good idea to me lol

We potentially have a clear but idk that any non-nanook saves last night should be claimed

@Urist thoughts

Two minutes is enough warning right

@dunya shoot guillo plz

If you have something groundbreaking please post it now cause I'm gonna shoot soon

I'm feeling poorly today so gonna shoot close to eod.

No no none at all, takes much more than that for me to have genuine hard feelings!

Idk how many you're at for the day but do recall there's a postcap!

Unless I get unexpectedly busy, I'm committed to shooting at 24 hour mark. We're speedrunning this game one way or the other

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 12:10 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:23 pm I'll probably shoot top vote getter at 24 hour mark
Bruh, we need the 48 hours,I need the 48 hours to reevaluate this game, i worked 12 hours today and tomorrow. If you shoot wrong we lose, we let you do it your way and it is not working, maybe this shot should be decided by the majority yah? Cool

Yesterday was decided by majority lol

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:24 pm Neither is pointing out you could just as easily read my ISO. I don't have detailed notes or a memorized case, I didn't go back to discuss this because I a trying to work. I shouldn't even be posting right now. I have to work until 5:30 in the morning so I can have a decent pay check this week and pay my bills. I would have to go back and refresh myself on everything Creature said that pinged. I don't have time for that right now.

The big things that do stick out in my head is the fact that Day Creature had 29 posts, of which 19 were mech discussion posts. Then at the end of the day he bemoaned that today was such a bust because all people talked about was mech and the wolves can hide in mech talk. Despite the fact that he was one of the driving forces of that conversation.

I also recall feeling like when NAA and Marmot were took out, it was likely an opportunity for the wolves to try and come in and control conversation. I waited because I wanted to see who seemed to come charging in. The two who came in were Creature and DDL. Creature also came in with wall posts reads. I didn't care for the look, but not something by itself that was bad.

I cannot fathom why anyone would have thought Dizzy bad. There is no world in which a wolf makes the post he did. It makes literally no sense to believe that he was wolf. Yet Creature and DDL were on him. It was beyond me, and the only reason I can see that someone would do it is because they would want to keep as many question marks out there as possible.

Honestly, I'm shocked I wasn't targeted last night after what you said. And I don't get why Dizzy was killed, because I was the only person who seemed confident he was town.

Beyond those thoughts, I can't recall particulars. It would require another ISO and I just feel like focusing on other things at this point. Now, I am going to go throw myself into work for like 8 hours. Catch you guys sometime tomorrow.

Glgl

Ftr literally this post is all I was after lol, that or a link. I don't really have time or energy to dig through ISOs this evening.

Asking someone to restate their case (or even just link it) is not an onerous or unreasonable request tbh

I mean, you could have just told me again why you think he's mafia

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:23 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:12 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:09 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:38 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:35 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:32 pm Did the rest of the wolves tell you to go hard on me today?
No, that was my intuition saying that.

Also, Space Daisy
Spacedaisy's case was like "creature is playing like textbook wolf but i don't tell you what the textbook wolf is" and "creature is posting hence wolf".
That was not my case, but whatever. I'm done talking about you. Nook has made it apparent he doesn't agree on you so I'm not wasting my time talking about someone I believe is wolf but will never be shot. I will instead be focusing on others today, probably doing some ISO's. But not tonight because I have to work my ass off tonight, fun times.
I'll shoot anyone if there's a good case for it, everyone is on the table today
You didn't agree with me before, I don't expect you to before, so I'm not wasting my time. You do what you think is best. I don't have extra information that you don't so if you don't see the same things I do, I don't care and I don't want to waste time talking about them more.

DDL's sudden flip on Creature is an unexpected change for no clear reason.

This is supremely unhelpful lol, by this logic I may as well just shoot at random

My posts aren't precious lol

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:09 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:38 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:35 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:32 pm Did the rest of the wolves tell you to go hard on me today?
No, that was my intuition saying that.

Also, Space Daisy
Spacedaisy's case was like "creature is playing like textbook wolf but i don't tell you what the textbook wolf is" and "creature is posting hence wolf".
That was not my case, but whatever. I'm done talking about you. Nook has made it apparent he doesn't agree on you so I'm not wasting my time talking about someone I believe is wolf but will never be shot. I will instead be focusing on others today, probably doing some ISO's. But not tonight because I have to work my ass off tonight, fun times.

I'll shoot anyone if there's a good case for it, everyone is on the table today

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:03 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:01 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:00 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:59 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:58 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:57 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:52 pm You know that "comtempt for town" tell I used to describe Dizzy early on?

I now see it in you.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
Dizzy flipped town lol
So?

No tells are 100% accurate.
I very much doubt you're keeping stats on how accurate it is
Who the fuck does that
Someone that would then have the standing to say "this id a reliable tell" rather than it being as much nonsense as any other supposed tell
Bro if you don't wanna follow me it's up to you. I like this tell and I like to use it so I'll use it.

Ok. You see how this is useless to anyone not named ddl, yes?

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:02 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:39 pm Do I follow logic, the dumbest of dumb reads, or consensus?

Weigh in in the comments and don't forget to like and subscribe
we're at even numbers so the correct play is to vote sleep

Two NKs lol

*most other supposed tells

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 8:00 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:59 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:58 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:57 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:52 pm You know that "comtempt for town" tell I used to describe Dizzy early on?

I now see it in you.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
Dizzy flipped town lol
So?

No tells are 100% accurate.
I very much doubt you're keeping stats on how accurate it is
Who the fuck does that

Someone that would then have the standing to say "this id a reliable tell" rather than it being as much nonsense as any other supposed tell

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:58 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:57 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:52 pm You know that "comtempt for town" tell I used to describe Dizzy early on?

I now see it in you.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine
Dizzy flipped town lol
So?

No tells are 100% accurate.

I very much doubt you're keeping stats on how accurate it is

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