The Syndicate

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:13 pm On a more positive note... how about a banner for the winners?

@MacDougall
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@Dyslexicon

And of course a banner for the host:

@Marmot

Thanks!

Yeah d1 wasn't fun for either team

Tbh the falcon thing seemed fine to me

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:08 pm Can I get into a game where the only people I know are not wolves?

Probably not

Sleep isn't an option

I mean, are we not at the point of additional assumptions

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:36 pm I would commit to reading if everyone agreed on that 4. but otherwise I'll take the 25% of naming a 5th randomly.

Isn't it 1/3 if we assume dizzy is mafia

Or 1/2 if we assume ender is too

I mean

Yeah

We need one more yeah

Yeah it wasn't my best work

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:29 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:27 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:25 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:19 am [this is why thunderdomes shouldn't be postponed]
I mean, town thunderdomes LHF towny D1, then thunderdomes another player D2. I don't know how you deal with a selfish player like that when they're town unless you just ignore them. The solution can't always be to resolve the thunderdome.
Yeah they really need to be taught a lesson about how mafia is a TEAM game and that playing SELFISHLY will only make you LOSE and then your TEAMMATES will also lose and be SALTY about it.
I feel like this is a veiled shot at me, but I'm going to ignore it because I am probably the least selfish player on site, given how I always end up on a large wagon at end of day, and don't focus on my own solving ability exclusively.

No lol its supposed to be a joke, maybe poorly framed idk

There isn't really much to say today yeah

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:25 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:19 am [this is why thunderdomes shouldn't be postponed]
I mean, town thunderdomes LHF towny D1, then thunderdomes another player D2. I don't know how you deal with a selfish player like that when they're town unless you just ignore them. The solution can't always be to resolve the thunderdome.

Yeah they really need to be taught a lesson about how mafia is a TEAM game and that playing SELFISHLY will only make you LOSE and then your TEAMMATES will also lose and be SALTY about it.

Insert [if dizzy is town this game is unwinnable] and [this is why thunderdomes shouldn't be postponed] gloomy and kind of scolding posts here

I thought eod was 6 so I'm kinda here

Looks like we're doing the good thing tho so maybe I don't need to be

I'm not gonna be around from like 4ish onward, so would be good if wagons were stable from that point on

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:55 pm

Something... Something... Something... DaughterOfOmega.

Is Dizzy just confirmed town?

Heh

Yeah probably

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:44 am You know what, I think Ender wants to win this game more than anyone else here, so I'll sheep him.

You could say that if he's mafia the game is unwinnable

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:35 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:35 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:57 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
If you had to make a read of your own beyond sheeping Axe, what would it be?

Also how confident are you Axe is town?
I don't understand the question

And pretty confident, like 95%
Ignoring Axe's POE, do you have a POE of your own.

Sorry, I didn't quite get that

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:57 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
If you had to make a read of your own beyond sheeping Axe, what would it be?

Also how confident are you Axe is town?

I don't understand the question

And pretty confident, like 95%

Sorry I wasn't here yesterday, I was busy having fever dreams

I'll be around in a v limited capacity today

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:07 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:53 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:51 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:51 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:43 pm I would vote BoKnows today actually, I think that's a good target

@MacDougall @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @falcon45ca @Luckbox Inc @Seanzie @Dyslexicon @Alison @Lu Ren

You are the players I would expect to vote there.
Diz is probably town and vouches for them so thats a bit of hesitation, but yeah I'd vote for them if that's where we want to go
why is dizzy town again
Game state and tbh i still kinda think you're mafia
I'm torn between level 0 player and mafia, but I'm currently leaning level 0, was previously leaning mafia. Consider I almost took her off of DOO, and onto me by saying something rude. Like, I initially misread that by thinking that she was able to evaluate NAI things, but upon my own re-evaluation, I think the NAI thing only came into play because the DOO read existed, and it was a decent/convenient justification for jumping back onto her first scum read. I think she would have gone full on tunnel vs me if it happened before the DOO argument... Instead I get locked into a town box because NAI over time just turns into towny along that same vein.

Eh, fair enough. Maybe I'm holding on to the read too long

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:10 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:53 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:51 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:51 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:43 pm I would vote BoKnows today actually, I think that's a good target

@MacDougall @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @falcon45ca @Luckbox Inc @Seanzie @Dyslexicon @Alison @Lu Ren

You are the players I would expect to vote there.
Diz is probably town and vouches for them so thats a bit of hesitation, but yeah I'd vote for them if that's where we want to go
why is dizzy town again
Game state and tbh i still kinda think you're mafia
why's the gamestate prove that dizzy is town

If I wanted to elaborate i probably would've

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:56 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME Do you still think Mac is town? I've never seen him play forum, but like, I'm not seeing the cooperation I would expect.

I kinda do? Idk, sometimes it's hard to distinguish his scum play from his "I don't have enough time but im still going to try to lead this game" ego driven town play

But I think this is still his town game, enough that I'd give him a day pass and reconsider tomorrow

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:51 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:51 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:43 pm I would vote BoKnows today actually, I think that's a good target

@MacDougall @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @falcon45ca @Luckbox Inc @Seanzie @Dyslexicon @Alison @Lu Ren

You are the players I would expect to vote there.
Diz is probably town and vouches for them so thats a bit of hesitation, but yeah I'd vote for them if that's where we want to go
why is dizzy town again

Game state and tbh i still kinda think you're mafia

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:43 pm I would vote BoKnows today actually, I think that's a good target

@MacDougall @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @falcon45ca @Luckbox Inc @Seanzie @Dyslexicon @Alison @Lu Ren

You are the players I would expect to vote there.

Diz is probably town and vouches for them so thats a bit of hesitation, but yeah I'd vote for them if that's where we want to go

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:41 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:34 pm I guess the relevant question to ask yourself is "would nanook care enough about trying to win not to troll star?"

I think there's an obvious answer tbh
So why doesn't this question apply if you're town? Like, your argument is that you wanna sheep Axe because you think Axe has good reads if they're town. Why wouldn't town!Nanook also choose to troll Axe instead of taking the optimal path of sheeping him?

It hurts my wincon too much

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 9:04 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:00 amYou have too many nulls to be town
I agree I have too many nulls.

I also had a question for you, if you cared to read. It was about your suggestion that me avoiding the thread was scummy. I don't think you know me to avoid the thread as any alignment, so that's weird to me, if you feel compelled to comment.

Who's your town right now?

I have basically the same townreads as starhole

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:11 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:03 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:18 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:05 pm I never realize how good I have it in a mafia community until I try and play somewhere else, where the community is so brainless it hurts to read.

Glad Syn is decent
This post was shortly before Syn subbed in for Grogu. BTSC maybe?
Falcon probably town, consolidate somewhere else
ok

I guess I should've seen that one coming

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 3:18 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:05 pm I never realize how good I have it in a mafia community until I try and play somewhere else, where the community is so brainless it hurts to read.

Glad Syn is decent
This post was shortly before Syn subbed in for Grogu. BTSC maybe?

Falcon probably town, consolidate somewhere else

I don't think that's actually true but I feel omgusy

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 12:15 am I guess the easy version is

Town:
Belzy

Probably town:
Lucky

Town lean:
Falcon
Syn
Sean

Null:
Fingers
Ender
Lu Ren
Axe
TPS

Suss:
Alison
Nanook

I might move Fingers up if I'm generous.

You have too many nulls to be town

Anyways, im going to bed now, so this would be the ideal time to pickpocket me

I guess the relevant question to ask yourself is "would nanook care enough about trying to win not to troll star?"

I think there's an obvious answer tbh

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:24 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:22 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:21 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:53 pm If you think star is town you should have me lock town, if i were mafia and he's town I wouldn't be sheeping him I'd be trolling the shit out of him
If Axe is town and you're mafia and Axe has bad reads you can get an easy pocket + low accountability misexes by just sheeping him

And I know his scumread on me is bad so
Thats not how our relationship works
The way I described it is what would be most convenient for a mafia nook to do

Why should I believe that you wouldn't sheep axe as mafia?

Cause if I were mafia and he were town in this specific game with this player list I would troll the shit out of him cause I'd be able to get away with it and it would be funny

Theres not really any utility to sheeping him as mafia cause nobody is really going to listen to him in a meaningful way so I wouldn't need to pocket him

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:17 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:16 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:54 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:53 pm If you think star is town you should have me lock town, if i were mafia and he's town I wouldn't be sheeping him I'd be trolling the shit out of him
What if. Now hear me out. But what if I don't townread either of you?
Then you should reroll your dice, idk
Lemme see. Hmm. Hmm. Snake eyes.

Still don't townread either of you.

Get better dice then

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:21 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:53 pm If you think star is town you should have me lock town, if i were mafia and he's town I wouldn't be sheeping him I'd be trolling the shit out of him
If Axe is town and you're mafia and Axe has bad reads you can get an easy pocket + low accountability misexes by just sheeping him

And I know his scumread on me is bad so

Thats not how our relationship works

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:54 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:53 pm If you think star is town you should have me lock town, if i were mafia and he's town I wouldn't be sheeping him I'd be trolling the shit out of him
What if. Now hear me out. But what if I don't townread either of you?

Then you should reroll your dice, idk

If you think star is town you should have me lock town, if i were mafia and he's town I wouldn't be sheeping him I'd be trolling the shit out of him

Lu Ren wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 7:30 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 7:14 pm seanzie has been openwolfing i think
Yes, I don't really want to commit but Luck's been trending up and Sean's not looking great.

Do you think Nanook's response to my vote there-- basically building the reason I want to kill him into something it's not and then saying it's not actually a thing at all anyway is alignment indicative? I could understand "no i'm just being lazy and doing my thing that's a bad push" but I felt like the lengths to which he went to thinly strawman and then demolish my push (rather than engaging with the substance of my actual read i.e. that he's blatantly wolfsiding regardless of alignment and that he can do better as town, even if I don't expect him to, and it seems like he's using excuse to tether vote to a blatantly non-consensus short-temper villager, plus his reads have seemed generally tmi-y) don't give me a lot of hope in that regard.

If you wanted me to address something specific you should've framed it as a question, i don't generally treat scumreads as questions to address lol

Lu Ren wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 7:21 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:04 pm "You're barely playing" reads are pretty meh from someone with a dozen fewer posts lol
Your "I'm making meaningful and towny contributions to the game" take is pretty meh from someone who's not doing that.

Ok boomer

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 7:01 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:59 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:36 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:04 pm "You're barely playing" reads are pretty meh from someone with a dozen fewer posts lol
I'd say it's more that you're barely impacting the game
"Impacting the game" in a mountainous setup with no hammer is pretty overrated
This is why I have trouble reading you.

I mean, there are ways to be productive that aren't posting 200 times a day

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:36 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:04 pm "You're barely playing" reads are pretty meh from someone with a dozen fewer posts lol
I'd say it's more that you're barely impacting the game

"Impacting the game" in a mountainous setup with no hammer is pretty overrated

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:07 pm Anyways scumreading me for sheeping in general and sheeping star specifically is a pretty meh tier read

And "you aren't playing" and "you're better than this" reads are also nothing pretty meh lol

*also both pretty meh

Anyways scumreading me for sheeping in general and sheeping star specifically is a pretty meh tier read

And "you aren't playing" and "you're better than this" reads are also nothing pretty meh lol

I mean they're pretty meh in general too

"You're barely playing" reads are pretty meh from someone with a dozen fewer posts lol

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 3:53 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 3:27 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME Can you actually read Mac and tell me what you think?
Sure

I think he's town

Lu Ren wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 3:57 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jul 10, 2021 3:56 pm I don't actually care if they know me or not they just made a read thats weird to make if they don't know me lol

Although tbf its also a bad read if they do know me, so
it's literally not a read it's "you're barely playing and everything you've done is wolf-sided so i would feel exactly 0 bad for miseliminating you"

I've posted more than you lol

I don't actually care if they know me or not they just made a read thats weird to make if they don't know me lol

Although tbf its also a bad read if they do know me, so

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