The Syndicate

Yep, was because we rolecopped you, and I didn’t think you were realistically going to be mis-killed.

I think it was the right move. It usually wins the game I think.

I'm kind of annoyed that claims were essentially allowed at MYLO, narrowed down options imo.

Good game town.

What you're saying doesn't even make sense

I would assume that calculon still has their vest, or the director was able to hand out a vest or some other form of protection. Or a vig shot maybe.

Nice dumbtell tho

I don’t slow roll

Sorry, I’m not meaning to be a dick. I’m just impatient to see if I fucked up or not lol

I’m like Tom petty—I need to know!

I can’t handle the suspense

There’s a pretty good reason to think it’s not sprityo

To be totally honest I’m kind of wondering if I fucked up on sabie, but I don’t think I did and I’m just tired and the MYLO jitters are getting to me. Even if I did...that would make speedchuck calculon, so we don’t just auto-lose...but it would be pretty embarrassing and I prefer being right.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:29 pm Pause.

Steal my joke again and you’re looking at a modkill, buckaroo!

WORTH IT

PAUSE

Also—how would ScumNanook get civ cred off a rej kill more than, say, a sprityo kill? Seems like I’d get about the same, yeah?

sabie12 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:43 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:14 pm Actually, I'm going to vote [VOTE: Nanook] aubergine.

I can see the things he's done through the filter of bussing and setting up the endgame. I can't see that with Sprit as well. If it is Sprit, gg dude you've come a long way since Credithunt.

Nanook is the last scum and he's bussed his way to this point to win goodwill. I have very little grounding to say why, but it's true. Sabie has to be who she is. Sprit has teetered with screwing everything over regarding rolespec. I know I'm town. That leaves Nanook.

And then there's this:

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:57 am The fact that I think creature is scum shouldn’t really surprise anyone tbh, I’ve been pushing him since D1 and nothing he’s done has made me think I’m wrong.
Nanook was 'suspecting creature all game and creature never did anything to change his mind.' That quote is damning. It reeks of casual distancing, something I've done a lot of times as scum. It's keeping the bus in his back pocket. If creature doesn't manage to avoid the lynch, then Nanook's been after him all game. If he does, Nanook clearly never pushed him heavily enough to cause an early lynch. I'm sure nanook would dispute that, but that's all I can see with like a day to play.

Sprit would be my next choice for scum, but it's like 90/10.
You make some fair points and things I was also thinking. The rej kill was an odd choice. Nanook could have been looking for civ cred and hopes to somehow kill the rest of us off. Nanook also was kind of lurking last end of day phase. And Doms post singling him out was weird too.

I’m pretty sure I was sleeping, fwiw, or at least in between sleep. EODs are a weird time for me, I think I’ve only made one or two.

I don't see any scum benefit to calling out sabie as likely being calculon and swinging the vote to creature. One of those things, sure, maybe, it's within my range at least. Doing both would just be making my life unnecessarily difficult--if I were creature's partner, I could've not called out Sabie as being calculon (and actively convinced people of it, remember that people were skeptical at first), OR I could've done that and swung the vote to speedchuck instead.

Also remember that it's very likely one town didn't have a vote yesterday (assuming the scum team isn't stupid), so all it would take is one town voting wrong for a Nanook/creature scum team to win the game.

I think itwould be borderline game throwing for scumNanook to play how I did yesterday

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:56 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:07 pm Also sabie you were literally never the kill last night, lol.
^^ i agree

if anthing they copped rej and knew that rej had a 1/4 chance to target them with his tracking ability

1/3 if rej believes sabie is calculon

Yeah that's my thought too

Also sabie you were literally never the kill last night, lol.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:45 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:52 am honestky rej was the most peculiar kill

i was 100% expecting one of me sabie or nanook
I was thinking that too.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:06 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:52 am honestky rej was the most peculiar kill

i was 100% expecting one of me sabie or nanook
Tbh I thought there was a decent chance it was me, given my calling sabie out as calculon. Idk, not super interested in NK analysis tbh.
Well someone who did the NK wouldn't be interested in analyzing it..

Typically when I make solo NKs I like to "analyze" them and dissect exactly why it (ostensibly) makes more sense for someone else to make the kill. Gives me work to do to look busy

If I had to guess I'd say it's probably as simple as they rolecopped Rej at some point so made the safe non-calculon kill that was less likely to be pushable. It's a kill that makes sense for everyone as scum, I think, except mayyyyybe you, Sabie. But even then it's not like it's impossible for you to take that line as scum, just less likely.

But yeah I'm not super interested in doing much NK analysis beyond cause I'm reasonably sure I have the game figured out by POE and the NK doesn't contradict that solve.

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:52 am honestky rej was the most peculiar kill

i was 100% expecting one of me sabie or nanook

Tbh I thought there was a decent chance it was me, given my calling sabie out as calculon. Idk, not super interested in NK analysis tbh.

Kinda don’t like the cheesing tbh, but if we want to go that route it’s not that hard to either solve the game or turn it into a 1v1

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:49 pm Question- did anyone receive an item last night? Or has anyone received an item at all this game?

If this can’t be answered publicly then nevermind

Doubt this can be answered publicly.

I don’t think I can say what I think sprityo‘s is cause it’s the same as claiming mine. I’m not fully sure how the rules work here tho?

I guess I should clarify that I was pretty sure yesterday. Rej flipping calc jr. makes me think I was right, so I’m doubling down today.

Yeah so I refrained from posting last night in hopes mafia wouldn’t kill me, looks like it paid off.

So I’m pretty much always just gonna kill [VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

I’m pretty confident I’ve figured out both sprityo and Sabie's roles, so.

Is this the point where I said I fucking told you so, or...

I will say that I appreciate the effort you’re putting in, much respect

I think sabie was the designated counterwagon before they slipped their role. FMPOV the creature wagon looks pretty pure.

It’s tough for scum to really push a second viable counterwagon when one member hasn’t really been around much

Oh sprityo is locked town imo

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:15 pm I’ll let nanook take the lead then on this

I’m going to bed now

[VOTE: creature] aubergine

<3

Rej wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:13 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:08 pm Unless calculon gets told they were targeted then there’s nobody with TMI about it, yeah? I assume scum aren’t told why their kill failed
but scum knows who they did target N2
that is a valuable information for them, if that player is still alive by now then there is a higher chance that that player is Calculon

Yeh fair point

Unless calculon gets told they were targeted then there’s nobody with TMI about it, yeah? I assume scum aren’t told why their kill failed

Rej wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:45 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:42 am I don’t think it’s equal odds that creature and sabie are scum, lol, but ok
I meant atleast one of them is scum, by equal odds

I understand what you’re saying I just disagree with it

I don’t think it’s equal odds that creature and sabie are scum, lol, but ok

I think I’ve been saying you and sprityo are town for awhile lol

Rej wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:29 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:26 am I think it’s better to leave calculon alone.

I’m willing to bet the game on it.

then let's bring it further

new theory:
The Sabievoters (me and Sprityo) are town based on my, spirityo's and others PoE.
And I rather trust that one right now.

This would mean that one of the Creature voters atleast is scum and it is either a placeholder vote or a powerwolf vote.

I agree that you and sprityo are town.

I’m pretty much in a speedchuck/Enrique and creature world

I think it’s better to leave calculon alone.

I’m willing to bet the game on it.

They can in MYLO not in LYLO IIRC

Rej wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:20 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:15 am Her post only makes sense if she has a vest cause she’d die overnight
Its better for town's PoE tho if we trick MyLo with Calculon I would be less emotionaly if I were a Calculon vest about to be lynched.
The only way I would become emotional is when I would have crucial info that might be lost upon lynch/NK and this would give town hard times.
So with Sabie being resigned she more likely is to have no information for towns PoE and she doesn't care about being lynched. Also brb gonna check something.
We are close to a tie again...

I think it’s a mistake, but ok

Rej wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:16 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:14 am I read Sabie as being more resigned than mad tbh
how AI is that? scum could also be resigned when the scumpartner for example powerwolfed
also the only invests alive are a tracker and a mason recruiter, nothing to fear for mafia if the mason recruiter didn't get far this game

It’s the specific way she was resigned to being TKed and town having to figure it out without her

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:15 am Her post only makes sense if she has a vest cause she’d die overnight

After being TKed, I mean

Her post only makes sense if she has a vest cause she’d die overnight

I read Sabie as being more resigned than mad tbh

I get you probably don’t wanna bus your partner here but rej is just not on the table lol

Also noting how weird it is that you claim a scumread on me, presumably also on Sabie if you were voting for them, and yet when you move off Sabie you go to rej...it’s almost like you need to expand the POE or something...

Lololololol

This is the second and a half time this game I’ve had a strong role read on someone, ya’ll should pay attention

My problem is you’re scum and nobody’s wanted to kill you with me

Rej wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:47 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:12 am WAIT

SABIE IS CALCULON, EVERYONE MOVE
isn't lynching Calculon equivalent to a no lynch at this stage?
the only possibility is that Calculon was shot N2 and this gave us the no kill, this means Calculon wouldn't be of any help.
But tbh our doctor was in good hands tho.

I mean there’s no point FMPOV, it just clears up my POE and we have our scum team on a platter. Plus it’s better for calculon to have their protection tonight if possible (it’s possible they don’t, but I’m gonna hope it was a doc save and not calculon that cause the no NK).

I’ve never actually seen scum slip that the game will keep going after they die at MYLO (I’ve seen town do it and get jumped for it, tho), so I think Sabie is just calculon here. I think that was a legitimate perspective slip and we should bury creature instead.

WAIT

SABIE IS CALCULON, EVERYONE MOVE

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:07 am Guess ima have to vote creature. I'm sorry I've failed you all. Hope after my lynch you actually find the scum. [VOTE: creature] aubergine

If you’re town the game most likely ends after your TK

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