The Syndicate

The fact that I think creature is scum shouldn’t really surprise anyone tbh, I’ve been pushing him since D1 and nothing he’s done has made me think I’m wrong.

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:23 am More so than Sabie? Why?

I don’t really see any reason to think Sabie is scum beyond POE? Whereas I actively think creature is scum.

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:14 am Nanook I see you voting creature, what’s up with that?

I think he’s scum.

Ok, you convinced me.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

It’s 2/5 with a no kill.

2/5>2/6

The 1/6 chance we hit calculon today is not worth it imo.

Is there any reason that [VOTE: no kill] aubergine isn’t the objectively correct play today?

Yeah. That’s why I was locking Epi, lol, I figured out his role way back on like D2.

final 5/final 6

Assuming a successful NK

Ok, so we go to f6 MYLO, no-kill so that we negate any voting shenanigans, and we have a normal f5 LYLO.

I'm not gonna say who I think should be the kill for obvious reasons but yeah I think it should be fairly obvious.

*f5

Used to LYLO’s being f3 lol

I have regerts

Being able to no-kill at MYLO is nice though. Now we can have a proper f3

Upside to TKing Calculon is we (likely briefly) get a confirmed town if it doesn’t just slip to the next player in votes.

Downside is then we’re at odd numbers and might have to deal with f5 where only two townies can vote, in other words a 50% chance to win.

So MYLO is essentially LYLO vote-wise

Ooh right, good call

Now I’m going back to sleep someone ping me if you need me

We’re at 8 rn, mis-kill is 5/2, NK is 4/2, we no-kill and another NK is 3/2.

So we’ve got two TKs to rely on. I’m reasonably confident in a Nova/Creature/Sabie/Enrique POE, the problem is that’s too big. Not sure if any of those don’t make sense as partners, that might help narrow things down, or a successful kill but I don’t wanna count on that at this point. At this point not sure I’m going to be able to find any of them as town outside of voting logic on a successful kill tbh.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:55 pm How can you be voting Sabie, saying you trust Ted as well, and want to go after Nanook after this phase? Like what?

Reasonably sure he meant tackle as in figure out my alignment, not necessarily kill

Rej wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:52 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:45 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:25 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:23 pm GTH who's the third? Creature or Epi?
Epi made a push in drunken state, it is weird...
Why is Nanook lock town?
maybe he was faking it?

Nanook (as ive said already) is giving me jack vibes in that he has equal balance posting and goofing that he gets brushed aside and disregarded. when it is brought it there isnt something solid to go either way, town or mafia. and there is typically someone else more scummy at the moment. It's like 90% of the time on how jack makes it to late game, lucky bastard

so im on edge for nanook. Personally he is a prime lynch candidate come tomorrow

damn hope one doesn't fake this, I mean "drunk" could also mean he "empowered himself" with like...2 beers lmao
Nanook is the one I would tackle in LyLo, I was scum with them and they carried mafia, by deepwolfing

I thought I was open wolfing by the end but ok lolol

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:45 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:25 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:23 pm GTH who's the third? Creature or Epi?
Epi made a push in drunken state, it is weird...
Why is Nanook lock town?
maybe he was faking it?

Nanook (as ive said already) is giving me jack vibes in that he has equal balance posting and goofing that he gets brushed aside and disregarded. when it is brought it there isnt something solid to go either way, town or mafia. and there is typically someone else more scummy at the moment. It's like 90% of the time on how jack makes it to late game, lucky bastard

so im on edge for nanook. Personally he is a prime lynch candidate come tomorrow

Here’s a hint

If you want more readable stuff from me

Ask me direct questions, or, better yet

Help me kill the people I want to kill

Like is thay even a real thought?

Maybe I’m just slow but why does mafia want a no-TK here??

I dunno if I really need to call the most obvious vote in the world but I’m voting for nova

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:16 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:06 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:57 am Sabie is a lock at this stage, and that basically locks Enrique the other direction 'cause Sabie/Enrique doesn't make sense to me.
Why?
It'd mean she's been running a solo show and I just don't see that. She doesn't kill Mac on her own I reckon, and I think she fights a bit on Dom. Maybe not put herself into a position to be strong-armed to vote there early.

Eh, idk them well enough to say if that makes sense or not tbh

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:57 am Sabie is a lock at this stage, and that basically locks Enrique the other direction 'cause Sabie/Enrique doesn't make sense to me.

Why?

Ok nova let’s pretend you’re town for a sec

Who’s the second scum then?

Enrique?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:27 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:24 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:15 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:33 pm Epi is town 99% of the time
Is this still unwavering?
Yep
Are there other similar ones?

Nope

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:15 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:33 pm Epi is town 99% of the time
Is this still unwavering?

Yep

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:33 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:31 am I don’t wanna kill Sabie just because they seem like fun and I empathize with playing between glares from your partner
Go square dancing with sabie then. Don't fuck up someone's mafia win because you like her.

There’s two mafia I can find the other first

(I actually just think there are better options today)

I don’t wanna kill Sabie just because they seem like fun and I empathize with playing between glares from your partner

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:51 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:41 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:49 pm Is that possible?
Technically possible but not super likely ime
Then who is it?

Enrique if anyone

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:37 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:36 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:13 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:14 pm I think the odds ted was killed to take pressure off of Sabie is high. [VOTE: sabie] aubergine I’m voting here for now
Ted should have been killed aged ago. He wasn't. Why now?
You’re thinking it’s WIFOM?

Maybe they kept him alive because the mafia didn’t see him as a threat until recent.
Maybe dickbutt.

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sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:19 pm Personally. No one seems to have any issues with Epi

Likewise-no one (besides nanook) has voiced doubt on Creature being Bender

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME do you still think creature isn’t bender? How much conviction do you have in that?

It’s not so much thay I think creature isn’t bender as I think creature is scum. So yeah, I’d say...idk, maybe 40-50% if I had to put a number on it

Like you say “oh Nanook hasn’t done anything,” but I can’t really do much if my top scumreads keep being alive besides say “yeah this person is still scummy.”

Seriously tho how the fuck am I supposed to “do stuff” if every time I say “player X is scum I want to kill them,” I’m met with either ignoring it or some form of “not interested.”

Why bother putting reads out if they’re going to get roundly ignored?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:49 pm Is that possible?

Technically possible but not super likely ime

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:35 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:48 pm I mean it’s hard to argue I haven’t done anything when the people I want to kill are still alive. That’s usually the best way to read me for people that don’t know me
Is it bad I don't know who you want to kill?

It’s called an ISO, I suggest you try reading it sometime.

Oh apparently I can’t lolol

I can use

instead

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:03 pm I fucking hate that Nanook's emoji

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:59 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:53 pm I would encourage you to take a glance at a scum game of mine. Giving a lot of reads and thoughts is something I typically do as scum more than as town.

I try to only give higher confidence reads as town, especially when I’m playing with people I don’t know that well
I don’t trust meta, at least not when it’s presented this way.

I don’t care for past games, I care what you think about this game.

“I don’t care how you play cause I’d rather stick my head in the sand and pretend that what you’re doing is AI”

I would encourage you to take a glance at a scum game of mine. Giving a lot of reads and thoughts is something I typically do as scum more than as town.

I try to only give higher confidence reads as town, especially when I’m playing with people I don’t know that well

I mean it’s hard to argue I haven’t done anything when the people I want to kill are still alive. That’s usually the best way to read me for people that don’t know me

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:36 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:35 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:31 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:57 pm And now I’m home aloneish

In other words my name is Nanook and I’m gonna lead us to victory, ask me anything
Can you stop voting me? Pretty please
Gimme a reason to
I'm town, I promise

Yeah I totally believe you

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:31 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:57 pm And now I’m home aloneish

In other words my name is Nanook and I’m gonna lead us to victory, ask me anything
Can you stop voting me? Pretty please

Gimme a reason to

Very few scum don’t include their partners at all

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:21 pm Over/under on Dom including one teammate in his scum reads?

It’s almost always at least one

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:02 pm When scum aren’t pressured, they are sitting in their comfort zone. They have a much clearer view on the game, can plan ahead, etc. Fake reads confidently.

But as soon as they’re being pushed, it’s like this automatic click in your brain. You forget everything about being scum, and your main priority is to make your accusers town read you in the end. Your lymbic system takes charge. That’s when the town agenda versus scum agenda can be easily torn apart by anyone.

One wants to convince them that they’re wrong because scum think if there’s no reason, there is no guilty card handed (TMI -> mafia want to convince them they’re wrong so they can have town on their side, they know who the town is)

The other wants to go ham at their accuser because he’s obviously wrong (uninformed mentality -> there’s some form of deduction of your accuser because you’re trying to see if there’s an agenda behind you being pushed)

Mentality analysis also made me vote Sig.

His primal instinct triggered. His mentality is to survive. Focus on survival.

As soon as their wincon is in danger, they start going desperate.

Sig also had no real intention of figuring people out in that moment. He was desperate to save himself. His posts were saying “Literally anyone could get lynched right now, just fucking save me idc”

Which is the mentality an sk has. Neutral. Indie. Whatever.

That’s what ultimately made me move my vote.

This is uh

Not what we in the business call a high accuracy read

And now I’m home aloneish

In other words my name is Nanook and I’m gonna lead us to victory, ask me anything

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