The Syndicate

I guess I could OMGUS but we’d all know my heart isn’t in it

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:18 pm Nanook, what are the alignments of SPF and Mac, the two people calling for your head?

No idea

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:17 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:15 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:13 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:12 pm I don’t think I really want to engage with “you weren’t obvious town within 10 posts” reads

That’s a ridiculous standard to hold me, a notorious slow starter, toentirety
that isn't my read, and i find it scummy that you're characterizing it that way. i've had a concern about you that has lingered throughout the entirety of your game, and i'm contrasting that with how immediately obviously town you were in the last game we played together. my read is not: "nanook was not town in his first 10 posts, so he's scum"
You just fucking said it was part of your read
i feel like you're deliberately misunderstanding my point, so we should probably drop it if the conversation isnt gonna be productive

And i feel like you’re throwing a bunch of unreasonable shit at me, so

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:16 pm Hes mafia but I promised to town shield him so y'all gonna have kill me first!

Thanks bb

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:15 pm I also feel like his fake outburst in GoC on like d1 demonstrates that he as scum likes to be more adamant or likes to put on a stronger show as to why he's (falsely) town to people. This post count reason? Kinda lame-ish.

But I don't have a whole lot of experience with scum Nanook.

Don’t talk about ongoing games

Chop seems like more of a sure thing to me but I think rej is a lot higher than rand mafia so

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:13 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:12 pm I don’t think I really want to engage with “you weren’t obvious town within 10 posts” reads

That’s a ridiculous standard to hold me, a notorious slow starter, toentirety
that isn't my read, and i find it scummy that you're characterizing it that way. i've had a concern about you that has lingered throughout the entirety of your game, and i'm contrasting that with how immediately obviously town you were in the last game we played together. my read is not: "nanook was not town in his first 10 posts, so he's scum"

You just fucking said it was part of your read

I don’t think I really want to engage with “you weren’t obvious town within 10 posts” reads

That’s a ridiculous standard to hold me, a notorious slow starter, to

If your standard for reading me is “if he isn’t obvs town in 10 posts he’s mafia” you’re gonna scumread me most of the time

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:09 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:06 pm I have like 60 posts over a day and a half that’s not much compared to what you’re used to seeing from me
this is true, but it doesn't really impact the way i'm reading you in this game. i thought you were obvious town within your first 10 posts in bread mafia. i do not feel the same way about you in this game. i'm not sure how those two things are congruent unless you're just scum

Idk maybe it’s cause they’re different games played at different times

That would be crazy tho

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:07 pm I don't really think nanook can/should be read based on effort. I am convinced that the amount of effort he puts into a game is entirely predicated on his mood and entirely unaffected by his alignment.

I probably do tend to high post as town more, but yeah this is basically true life tends to have a larger effect on my effort than my alignment

I have like 60 posts over a day and a half that’s not much compared to what you’re used to seeing from me

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:04 pm Remember i started the rej flashwagon

Yah what happened to my townshield

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:01 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:59 pm If this is Mac trying some radical new afk strategy to reverse psychology me into townreading him then so be it. I'll let myself get pocketed and he'll get outed eventually and lose. AFK Mac is not deepwolf Mac.

Also after he got past the Alison/Sloonei tunnel his reads are actually good. He suspects ChopChop, Rej, nook, Marmot, and his townreads are Urist, SPF and Falcon. I don't fully agree with these reads but they're not unreasonable and the most important ones are there.
what's your take on nanook atm?

i cant think of a single post from him in this game that i would characterize as towny. that concerns me because i thought he was obvious town from the near moments that bread mafia started

and i dont think the difference is solely effort - nanook has been posting a reasonable amount today and i just havent seen it yet

Is this

I mean it’s fair to scumread me I guess

But idk how you can compare my effort here to my effort in bread mafia and be like “yeah these are roughly equivalent”

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:58 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:57 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:55 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:54 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:51 pm Oh yeah Nook is mafia
How long do you think it’ll take to shift meta expectations
Im not reading you this way for meta reasons. I'm reading you this way because you are Wanda, I am Vision and I can just feel you.
Wandavision spoilers

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so you’re saying I created you with my mind

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I am your deepest desire

Well you didn’t need a convoluted metaphor for that

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:55 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:54 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:51 pm Oh yeah Nook is mafia
How long do you think it’ll take to shift meta expectations
Being in the same but, probably minimum of 2 years.

I’m gonna try for a month

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:55 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:54 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:51 pm Oh yeah Nook is mafia
How long do you think it’ll take to shift meta expectations
Im not reading you this way for meta reasons. I'm reading you this way because you are Wanda, I am Vision and I can just feel you.

Wandavision spoilers

Spoiler: show

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:51 pm Oh yeah Nook is mafia

How long do you think it’ll take to shift meta expectations

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:05 am Nanook stop randing mafia

This is how I play now

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:55 am Slips aren’t real but I’ll buy it

Even tho I still don’t know who chopchop is and it’s bugging the shit out of me

This is me calling a chop vote which is uh

Something I didn’t realize I had to do in this game

Sorry jay

In my defense I’m illiterate

Slips aren’t real but I’ll buy it

Even tho I still don’t know who chopchop is and it’s bugging the shit out of me

The number of roles listed under each faction has no bearing on the actual number of players within each faction with the exception of the Wastelanders and the Enclave, who each have large populations relative to the rest.

Yeah I’d say both

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:52 pm We have 4 dead players and 3 are Wastelanders. Do we assume that's the largest faction, or do they just have garbage luck?

I think some of both is likely

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:32 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:30 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:29 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:24 pm [VOTE: spf] aubergine
you would almost certainly be townreading me right now if you were town
So would you.
i have townread you for the vast majority of the game. your inability to find my alignment even as i become more clearly threadspewed town and the way that you're responding to my concerns about c4 makes me feel generally uneasy

Threadspewed town doesn’t exist in what’s functionally multiball

Spf is definitely probably not vault city

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:33 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:31 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:29 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:28 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:27 pm [VOTE: urist] aubergine
That’s a weird way to spell rej
rej can be scum too. i'm just tired of having my read on urist be ignored, especially after he hardtunneled on a town and one of his other hardtunnels (me) was wrong too. i find it difficult to believe that a presumably strong player was 0/2 on d1 than i do to believe that he was just pushing in bad faith like i suspected
Being 0/2 on D1 is actually pretty common for strong players
perhaps. i misread esooa on d1 too so i'm not claiming to be a paragon of accurate d1 reads

i'm just a bit irked by d1 in general

Why? It seemed fine enough to me

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:29 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:28 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:27 pm [VOTE: urist] aubergine
That’s a weird way to spell rej
rej can be scum too. i'm just tired of having my read on urist be ignored, especially after he hardtunneled on a town and one of his other hardtunnels (me) was wrong too. i find it difficult to believe that a presumably strong player was 0/2 on d1 than i do to believe that he was just pushing in bad faith like i suspected

Being 0/2 on D1 is actually pretty common for strong players

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:27 pm [VOTE: urist] aubergine

That’s a weird way to spell rej

If rej is mafia spacedaisy is >rand mafia as well

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:44 pm I have no clue what is happening in here. I had to spend all last night doing homework. And I will have to tonight as well. Also I’m at work until the time the day ends. Can anyone catch me up on the story with the current wagons?

Joe’s a day cop with a red check on rej

You can’t kill chop before I figure out who they are

Urist probably actually town

I mean I don’t like flash wagons much either

But I also didn’t read rej’s posts until five minutes ago

Oh rej is probably just mafia isn’t he

Yeah ok

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:14 pm Nanook vote Rej and I'll townshield you all game.

I’m supposed to be sheeping Urist but this is hard to pass up

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:10 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:22 am Just this one game can I be town cleared without having to put in the frankly unappealing work of clearing myself?

I’m half serious
Okay, buddy.

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I'm half serious.

Thanks you’re also my one true friend

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:03 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:22 am Just this one game can I be town cleared without having to put in the frankly unappealing work of clearing myself?

I’m half serious
i'm tryin friend

Thanks you’re my one true friend

Do you need a snickers

I’m not pushing him but I don’t think it’s bad or wrong for people to be sus of his opening

I don’t get why you’re so up in arms about it, it’s a fair push to make

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:32 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:31 am Like idk that it’s really scummy but it’s definitely not townie
pretty sure that's why he is but regardless Alison is still scum reading him for it

Yeah that’s fine

Like idk that it’s really scummy but it’s definitely not townie

Meh mac’s probably taking a similar approach to the game as I am, which isn’t really AI for him

Just this one game can I be town cleared without having to put in the frankly unappealing work of clearing myself?

I’m half serious

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:40 am "town core" most overrated concept in mafia, don't @ me

Phighter if you’re going to steal sloonei’s account you should probably be a bit more subtle about it

I don’t like it and if you could all kindly not i would appreciate it

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:58 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:56 am kinda think that nanook is scum but also kinda think he's not gonna get chopped until the endgame for some reason
this read isn't game specific, it's just a general comment on nanook as a mafia player.

Idk man I’ve been getting killed early a lot recently, as both alignments

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:56 am kinda think that nanook is scum but also kinda think he's not gonna get chopped until the endgame for some reason

If extremely recent history is any basis I’m going to get flash wagoned while not present at eod

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:53 am me: I can't wait for Jess to comment on my Rej read that I think is really good!
Also me: yay new posts!

Nanook:

S T A N D W I C H

Sometimes you just have to take a moment to clear yourself town

These both seem appropriate for a jay game

I still can’t figure out who chop chop is

That’s not you banana is it

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