The Syndicate

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:06 am
Made wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:05 am
Dom wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:04 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:00 am “Now that I understand how I’ve been caught I’m going to say that I’m not claiming the role that outs me”

I’d be more inclined to believe it if it was an immediate claim (and an actual claim) but ya know
Just bc I don't get all the claim stuff bc I haven't fully read the roles...

Wouldn't BTSC help him or do you think this is a play beyond that.
why are you defending me so hard?
To be fair I think you're probably bad but I haven't read the roles so I don't get it fully lol

“If you haven’t read the roles why should I give a shit about what you say?”

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:04 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:00 am “Now that I understand how I’ve been caught I’m going to say that I’m not claiming the role that outs me”

I’d be more inclined to believe it if it was an immediate claim (and an actual claim) but ya know
Just bc I don't get all the claim stuff bc I haven't fully read the roles...

Wouldn't BTSC help him or do you think this is a play beyond that.

If he’s enclave maybe, depends on if partners are around/how much it was coordinated with doom to begin with

If he’s vault city he doesn’t have btsc does he?

I mean for all I know he’s some other alignment doing something stupid but idk why they would do that so

“Now that I understand how I’ve been caught I’m going to say that I’m not claiming the role that outs me”

I’d be more inclined to believe it if it was an immediate claim (and an actual claim) but ya know

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:33 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:32 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:32 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:30 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:23 pm If I see a live hangman game in the thread I will pour one out for everyone having to read it.
That’s the kind of content I play mafia for
my venmo is always open
Oh I meant the hangman game not your needlessly rude prodding
Oh and I thought you were fun. (:

I am fun that’s why I like the hangman game

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:32 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:30 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:23 pm If I see a live hangman game in the thread I will pour one out for everyone having to read it.
That’s the kind of content I play mafia for
my venmo is always open

Oh I meant the hangman game not your needlessly rude prodding

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:23 pm If I see a live hangman game in the thread I will pour one out for everyone having to read it.

That’s the kind of content I play mafia for

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:03 pm someone real quick summarize the case on made and mace

the quality and type of infromation involved

Mech info that doomade can’t be Westin, which is what doom claimed

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:39 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:35 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:32 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:26 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:23 pm I still feel like part of Urist is fake though. That's what I genuinely felt wrt his d2 actions, and that can't be dismissed just because I misunderstood the whole Urist + Nook + Doom/Made relationship on d3.
it's a common complaint
Okay. Fine.

*Maybe* I'm wrong on you, given your decent responses and I don't know your level of skill in FM. But I will be watching.

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine
In some circles Urist is considered to be the best forum mafia player out there
Well since you seem more knowledgeable about that

What's your current take of him

I’m notably bad at reading him

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:36 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:35 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:32 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:26 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:23 pm I still feel like part of Urist is fake though. That's what I genuinely felt wrt his d2 actions, and that can't be dismissed just because I misunderstood the whole Urist + Nook + Doom/Made relationship on d3.
it's a common complaint
Okay. Fine.

*Maybe* I'm wrong on you, given your decent responses and I don't know your level of skill in FM. But I will be watching.

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine
In some circles Urist is considered to be the best forum mafia player out there
it's true. i'm just pretending to be wrong so much so that the scum keep me alive

Elli would be proud

Made wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:35 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:31 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:29 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:25 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:23 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:20 pm
Made wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:17 pm Okay, catch me up folks, what'd I do?
nanook is calling you caught scum, you need to fullclaim
hi Urist, nice to meet you friend. I'm a bit shy, can we just like not?
i mean you can just let yourself be executed instead, would be par for the course
okay, but like. what if, no

I missed the early game pleasantries, talk with me friend! how's your game been so far?
it feels like i've aged 30 years in this past week if that makes any sense
oh dear, we're in the trenches. Okay, so what's game state right now, @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME claimed I'm bad. Like red check type? Who else are the wagons or is this a solo platform i'm on?

I have mech info that you can’t be the role your predecessor claimed

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:32 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:26 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:23 pm I still feel like part of Urist is fake though. That's what I genuinely felt wrt his d2 actions, and that can't be dismissed just because I misunderstood the whole Urist + Nook + Doom/Made relationship on d3.
it's a common complaint
Okay. Fine.

*Maybe* I'm wrong on you, given your decent responses and I don't know your level of skill in FM. But I will be watching.

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

In some circles Urist is considered to be the best forum mafia player out there

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:01 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:57 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:52 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:46 pm Also, Dom is likely town and LC’s defense of Dom is fine. Though I haven’t read everything, he’s seemed to have spent exactly as much time on the subject of Dom’s alignment and expressed exactly the same reasoning as Mac and myself.

Like Dom should push elsewhere or find a better reason to push LC.
Where am I pushing, Jack? Do tell.
I don't have a problem with LC's defense of me. Why don't you want LC answering basic questions?
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:46 pm
ChopChop wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:40 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:39 pm Or was Nanook content with a Rej lynch and wanted to save this until today?
He was on me most of the day Bud.
I was content with either one of you yesterday

I wasn’t purposely saving this for today I just didn’t see that doom had claimed Westin specifically
Ok.
So to review, just so I understand:
--DOOM is claiming Westin
--You didn't see this, just thought it was a rando NCR
--You have info that makes it mechanically impossible that DOOM is Westin

Is that correct?
—doom is claiming Westin (apparently prodded by Urist)
—I saw her NCR “softs” but not an explicit name claim
—I have info that makes it mechanically impossible for doom to be Westin
One last point of clarification.
When did you figure out DOOM is claiming Westin?
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:57 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:56 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:48 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:37 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:33 pm dom is outed mafia at this point
why?

Like I have him as a candidate but this conversation just seems to be him making snide remarks about DOOM/Nook for having an uppity attitude/not keeping up with the mech claims respectively. It seems mostly NAI to me.
he was gone all day yesterday and has nothing to say? like really?
I did clear this up. Did you miss this?
I literally made catch up post.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:51 pm
Grogu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:48 pm There’s a player named dom lol
Yeah, and he's got almost 10,000 posts. Dom's a man from way back.
Again-- the only thing LC is interested in doing is butter me up.
Oh god, the deja vu is real.
Go on.
I just remember you buttering me up as an adept player in my younger years.
It used to work.

Today when I asked if doom claimed Westin and was told yes

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:52 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:46 pm Also, Dom is likely town and LC’s defense of Dom is fine. Though I haven’t read everything, he’s seemed to have spent exactly as much time on the subject of Dom’s alignment and expressed exactly the same reasoning as Mac and myself.

Like Dom should push elsewhere or find a better reason to push LC.
Where am I pushing, Jack? Do tell.
I don't have a problem with LC's defense of me. Why don't you want LC answering basic questions?
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:46 pm
ChopChop wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:40 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:39 pm Or was Nanook content with a Rej lynch and wanted to save this until today?
He was on me most of the day Bud.
I was content with either one of you yesterday

I wasn’t purposely saving this for today I just didn’t see that doom had claimed Westin specifically
Ok.
So to review, just so I understand:
--DOOM is claiming Westin
--You didn't see this, just thought it was a rando NCR
--You have info that makes it mechanically impossible that DOOM is Westin

Is that correct?

—doom is claiming Westin (apparently prodded by Urist)
—I saw her NCR “softs” but not an explicit name claim
—I have info that makes it mechanically impossible for doom to be Westin

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:51 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:48 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:44 pm And I truly don't have a read on Nanook but I don't get why he got so defensive. Just answer the questions. I think he has a point, but I'd like to vet the claim and see if it stands to pressure.
I did answer your question lol, the answer to why I didn’t do this yesterday is that I literally did not see doom claim Westin yesterday

You don’t like the answer but that’s not the same as me not answering lol
technically she didn't claim, she heavily softed it d1 and when she continued softing it d2 i got annoyed and outed her

Either way I didn’t see it until today

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:44 pm And I truly don't have a read on Nanook but I don't get why he got so defensive. Just answer the questions. I think he has a point, but I'd like to vet the claim and see if it stands to pressure.

I did answer your question lol, the answer to why I didn’t do this yesterday is that I literally did not see doom claim Westin yesterday

You don’t like the answer but that’s not the same as me not answering lol

ChopChop wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:40 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:39 pm Or was Nanook content with a Rej lynch and wanted to save this until today?
He was on me most of the day Bud.

I was content with either one of you yesterday

I wasn’t purposely saving this for today I just didn’t see that doom had claimed Westin specifically

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:34 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:32 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:31 pm I mean I didn't know DOOM was exactly Westin either, I thought she was just claiming unspecified NCR role.
Yeah this is what I thought
So.. you did... catch it... you just... caught... half?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:33 pm It's pretty unbelievable.
I haven’t seen most of the stuff that’s happened this game, so

So why should I give a shit about what you say?
[/quote]

That’s a pretty crappy thing to say to someone
[/quote]
That's a great way to avoid this conversation.

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:33 pm dom is outed mafia at this point

You are civ if only because you earnestly believe dumb shit.
[/quote]

I caught some of the “I’m NCR” softs yeah, that isn’t the same as claiming specifically Westin lol

Yeah I’m gonna avoid any conversation where the starting premise is “you haven’t read enough for what you say to count,” thanks

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:32 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:29 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:27 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:26 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:22 pm @Long Con
You've been ardent in your defense of me.
Why such enthusiasm when you haven't really shown much enthusiasm for the game writ large.
It's entirely based on your C4 interaction. That's town Dom, I know by now. I have been where he is more than once.
Sure. Okay.
What about the other half of the question.
Just spread thin between games.
So spread some over here.
Tell me-- set DaughterofOmega aside--

Who's bad?
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:29 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:26 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:25 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:23 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:23 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:18 pm
you couldn't have claimed this yesterday eh
Well I didn’t know she was claiming Westin yesterday
why
I didn’t see it? What answer were you expecting here
It's pretty unbelievable.
I haven’t seen most of the stuff that’s happened this game, so
So why should I give a shit about what you say?

That’s a pretty crappy thing to say to someone

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:31 pm I mean I didn't know DOOM was exactly Westin either, I thought she was just claiming unspecified NCR role.

Yeah this is what I thought

Did she claim her N1 check too or?

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:26 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:25 pm
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:23 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:23 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:18 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:16 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:13 pm
Are you claiming Westin?
I’m claiming mechanical knowledge that precludes her from being Westin, possibly including that I myself am Westin
you couldn't have claimed this yesterday eh
Well I didn’t know she was claiming Westin yesterday
why
I didn’t see it? What answer were you expecting here
It's pretty unbelievable.

I haven’t seen most of the stuff that’s happened this game, so

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:23 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:23 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:18 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:16 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:13 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:12 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:11 pm

Do you actually have a decent reason for this or
Yeah she’s not the cop
Are you claiming Westin?
I’m claiming mechanical knowledge that precludes her from being Westin, possibly including that I myself am Westin
you couldn't have claimed this yesterday eh
Well I didn’t know she was claiming Westin yesterday
why

I didn’t see it? What answer were you expecting here

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:18 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:16 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:13 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:12 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:11 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:07 pm [VOTE: doom] aubergine

I’m actually using the vote tags so you know it’s serious
Do you actually have a decent reason for this or
Yeah she’s not the cop
Are you claiming Westin?
I’m claiming mechanical knowledge that precludes her from being Westin, possibly including that I myself am Westin
you couldn't have claimed this yesterday eh

Well I didn’t know she was claiming Westin yesterday

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:17 pm

Ncr Westin

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:13 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:12 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:11 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:07 pm [VOTE: doom] aubergine

I’m actually using the vote tags so you know it’s serious
Do you actually have a decent reason for this or
Yeah she’s not the cop
Are you claiming Westin?

I’m claiming mechanical knowledge that precludes her from being Westin, possibly including that I myself am Westin

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:11 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:07 pm [VOTE: doom] aubergine

I’m actually using the vote tags so you know it’s serious
Do you actually have a decent reason for this or

Yeah she’s not the cop

[VOTE: doom] aubergine

I’m actually using the vote tags so you know it’s serious

Did I miss something and doom claim cop

Unfortunately her thinking it’s still a thing and Mac being alive means she probably doesn’t have a NK

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:05 pm Unless there was actually a red peek somewhere, I don't recall seeing one.

I may have told Daisy there was one

She didn’t post again the rest of the day tbh I didn’t think she’d seen it

I’ll vote rej for the towncred

I’m technically here but also my phone is dying and I’m content with the wagons

Oh my god I missed a modkill. Rip

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:18 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:12 pm Also I have hair
I had a full beard when I was 23, it was glorious
Sadly it was not meant to be

rip

I on the other hand will say that some amount of sort by postcount applies in this case

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:14 pm if rej actually just came in and made one or two posts and dipped i agree with alison's assessment/comparison to SI

Yeah he's very likely mafia

Yeah this seems probably not as good as an iPhone but like

It costs the same to get a several years older iPhone so

Shrug emoji

Also I have hair

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:09 pm I have good news and bad news.

The bad news is that Urist and nanook are the same person, and scumreading nanook for not explaining his reads in-depth is silly. Also, scumreading SPF for getting annoyed when people aren't listening to her or acknowledging her viewpoint is silly.

The good news is that I don't see either of those concerns as looking like a wolf cooking up a reason to kill a townie, and I don't think Urist/Sloonei are in the same team, nor do I think DOOM and SPF are in the same team. So DOOM and Sloonei get points from me.

Actually we couldn't be more different, he's Canadian

I'm borrowing my wife's phone to see if I like it before ordering a new one (I've used two iPhones for the last decade so I'm a bit set in my ways) and while it does seem pretty nice outside of the location of some stuff on the keyboard throwing me off the relevant information here is that now her phone will autocorrect to omgus which I think is super

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:05 pm i feel like it's important to post a reminder that i'm gay

Good thing you did I almost forgot

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:59 pm Nanook i committed to explaining my reads but now i don't want to do it anymore

It's overrated tbh

Just say them with confidence and offer vague platitudes in support

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:59 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:54 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:35 pm Epi's slanking has me perturbed
I'd be more perturbed if he wasn't tbh
Slanking is his MO? Wasn't aware. I'll accept this for now, but c'mon...there's gotta be an end to it at some point, right?

Idk I think he's been fine

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:56 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:55 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:40 pm it's very weird that nobody has pressured me or scumread me today
I can omgus you if itd make you feel better
it would truly be an honor

Ok consider yourself omgused

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:45 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:37 pm i am still getting the sense that this particular pairing is ~too easy~ - but i've been scumleaning urist for a lot of this game so i'm still working out what to do with that feeling
This is my first time playing with Urist and I've had a tough time figuring him out. On the one hand he reminds me a bit of nutella in that he's been chucking out reads on a whim for much of the game, but he differs from her in that nutella usually will then put work in to show her thought process. Urist has done very littl a e of that. That's not inherently suspicious and it's perfectly valid for civilians to play a tight-lipped game... to an extent. That ceases to be productive after a while. I feel a bit like Urist's defense of Chop is his most substantial contribution to the game so far, but idk if that's fair. It might just be recency bias.

He's former 451-core if that helps

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:40 pm it's very weird that nobody has pressured me or scumread me today

I can omgus you if itd make you feel better

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:35 pm Epi's slanking has me perturbed

I'd be more perturbed if he wasn't tbh

The only sc2 person I can think of that I’ve played video mafia with is naz

ChopChop wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:15 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:16 pm Chop seems like more of a sure thing to me but I think rej is a lot higher than rand mafia so
Hey Nanook, I must have missed your response towards my previous question I gave you, can you re-ping me on it?

Also, I’ve played Video Mafia with you before.
You laughed at me.

I don’t think I saw the question

That’s not helpful I laugh at everyone!

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