The Syndicate

It started as wanting to shake things up a bit/force people to make more challenging pushes than wilgy/boo but I think boo actually has me pocketed now tbh

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:32 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:29 am
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:23 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:16 amSeriously?
it was a really well-done and genuine looking ate if g-man's town

which idk if that's something he can do but it's lame and i'd be pissy about it post-game

but who knows? i tr'd long con in ac for that self vote

but anyways idk if g-man does shifty strats like that
AtE should be alignment neutral, if one alignment can do it so can the other.
but... but but but but he was sad 'cause he didn't feel included in y'alls community T-T i felt for the guy

I mean I’ve said similar shit as mafia, I don’t think it’s particularly AI. YMMV

boo wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:28 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:21 am
boo wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 10:48 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 10:42 am
boo wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 10:38 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 10:16 am Probably jack, it’s hard to tell though tbh
I don't think it actually matters, they both look mafia. It's like they got drunk in mafia chat together and decided to start incessantly shit-posting. They're bouncing all over the place and most of it is confirmed BS.

The only confusing thing about this to me is I don't see them having the numbers to actually make this work if they're both mafia. They'd have to be assuming some horrible town plays from here on out.

FG has said she'll listen to you and Sloonei, IIRC, for who to shoot. So give it to her if voters on her don't want me to have it, or her voters can move to me and I'll shoot one of them.

Giving it to Jack is a trap, just not a good one. He'd probably shoot me. But that still doesn't matter. They shoot me, I reveal town, they posion Nanook, and at that point I their hope is the town just crumbles? Screw up and give the gun to Mac again and they shoot Wilgy or FG?
If Jack is my partner and gets the gun he shoots me and rides the cred home frankly.

But anyway you're a good boy. I like you.
Jack is way to egotistical for that.
What are you even arguing against? Like you don't want me to get the gun because if it's me and Mac....I won't shoot Mac because I'm too egotistical?

Who the fuck cares? You're not talking strategy. You're not giving reads. You're just being dickish. All game. I don't get it.
U mad?

I don’t even care if you’re town or scum in this moment cause this is a pitch perfect response

I think I love you now btw, congratulations

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:23 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 11:16 amSeriously?
it was a really well-done and genuine looking ate if g-man's town

which idk if that's something he can do but it's lame and i'd be pissy about it post-game

but who knows? i tr'd long con in ac for that self vote

but anyways idk if g-man does shifty strats like that

AtE should be alignment neutral, if one alignment can do it so can the other.

boo wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 10:38 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 10:16 am Probably jack, it’s hard to tell though tbh
I don't think it actually matters, they both look mafia. It's like they got drunk in mafia chat together and decided to start incessantly shit-posting. They're bouncing all over the place and most of it is confirmed BS.

The only confusing thing about this to me is I don't see them having the numbers to actually make this work if they're both mafia. They'd have to be assuming some horrible town plays from here on out.

FG has said she'll listen to you and Sloonei, IIRC, for who to shoot. So give it to her if voters on her don't want me to have it, or her voters can move to me and I'll shoot one of them.

Giving it to Jack is a trap, just not a good one. He'd probably shoot me. But that still doesn't matter. They shoot me, I reveal town, they posion Nanook, and at that point I their hope is the town just crumbles? Screw up and give the gun to Mac again and they shoot Wilgy or FG?

Eh, I don’t think they’re both mafia, but I’d be kinda surprised if one isn’t tbh

Maybe that’s just wishful thinking that they’re not both this bad, idk

Drago tried to expand the shot list to include FG and wilgy, they’re not worth killing today

Probably jack, it’s hard to tell though tbh

I clearly don’t have faith in your POE lol

Wait Mac are you actually scum, cmon dude

I appreciate you guys trying to make sure I don’t get poisoned tonight

I know this is WIFOM, but if I’m mafia bussing drago I don’t hard TR him then ignore him after sloonei challenges that read and all night just to shoot him. When sloonei challenges the read I just make a show of “changing” my mind, and hard push him from there.

And before you say “BUT YOU LIKE KILLING LURKERS,” context is king. I do like killing lurkers broadly but I don’t like killing lurkers I know are strong players when they actually show up before it’s strictly necessary.

I’m confirmed town, fuck off

I’ll tell you why I’m hard defending them tonight, scout’s honor

Coronavirus mafia wilgy low posted for like 4 days then showed up out of nowhere and damn near solved the game, to the point I made a strictly suboptimal choice to kill him bevause he was that good. I see no reason to kill wilgy before we have to (that point would be tomorrow night), and I dislike the pushes on him/amount of pushes on him. I’d prefer to give him time to show up if he’s going to, and shoot him tomorrow night if he doesn’t.

Do you think boo and wilgy are exactly the scum team? If not, this should be an achievable task

Unless I’m your new push, and I emphasize this, push somewhere else

Probably shouldn’t push me tho I’m basically lock town

Push somewhere else

Tbh I don’t feel the need to explain myself beyond that o firmly believe it’s the correct decision to hard shield them today.

No I’m 100% serious, I’ll fight a wilgy or boo shot today tooth and nail

I know, it’s a shocking decision.

But yeah I’m shielding wilgy and boo they’re both off the table today, find someone else to push/shoot

You know what, fuck it, boo and wilgy aren’t in the POE today, and I’m voting to give boo the gun. Make me proud boo bear.

Today I’m hard aligning with boo/wilgy and pooooooosibly hyena but I need to check some stuff when I can use my laptop again. Fight me.

(Unless sloonei disagrees then I’m sheeping sloonei)

I can’t tell if I just have great reads or I’m feeling contrarian tho

Maybe both!

Tbh I’m pretty tempted to just hard defend wilgy today, I feel like shielding him today is the right play for some reason

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 8:02 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 6:54 am In fact, I think we should be giving the gun within [wilgy/gman/boo/jack/mac] with clear instructions that if they don’t shoot within that group tonight they will themselves get shot tomorrow night.

I think forcing the POE to shoot within themselves is optimal rn?
What is the value vs. just giving the gun to someone outside to shoot into it? How is the outcome different? Not objecting just don't get it.

Person outside the POE shoots scum, great but doesn’t change the POE. Person inside POE shoots scum, awesome they’re probably out of the POE.

Also gives us a readable moment via the shot choice we otherwise wouldn’t have.

In fact, I think we should be giving the gun within [wilgy/gman/boo/jack/mac] with clear instructions that if they don’t shoot within that group tonight they will themselves get shot tomorrow night.

I think forcing the POE to shoot within themselves is optimal rn?

We’re at basically 7/2 right now, yeah? If we mis-shoot we’ll be at 5/2, wilgy can die then if necessary.

Otherwise I prefer to keep a potentially strong town voice around another day.

Personally I’d shoot within Jack/Mac/hyena I think

I know I said that last night then didn’t but I mean it this time probably

I don’t think wilgy is a good shot tonight tbh

I mean I sent the shot in like 5 minutes after I got the gun lolol

So not much

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 1:59 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 1:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 1:41 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 3:21 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

I'm basically with you on Wilgy and Mac. I'm not in the same place with you on Sloon, GMan or Johann but I'm of the same opinion that none of them should be shot today.

Tell me what you got out of my interactions with Boo yesterday?

Talk to me about FG, Drago and Hyena. What is the most compelling reason to kill and not kill each of them?
I could have sworn there was a post where Nanook laid out all his reads and this was in response to it but I can’t find it. I don’t like the idea that I was actually not on the same page on Mac and replying to two different players over several posts.

If anyone sees it...
I think you were replying to several posts of mine rather than one specific one? Not sure but your reply made sense to me at the time, so idk
You got that I was saying “don’t shoot Mac” not “shoot Mac,” right?

And...did I shoot him?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 1:41 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 3:21 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

I'm basically with you on Wilgy and Mac. I'm not in the same place with you on Sloon, GMan or Johann but I'm of the same opinion that none of them should be shot today.

Tell me what you got out of my interactions with Boo yesterday?

Talk to me about FG, Drago and Hyena. What is the most compelling reason to kill and not kill each of them?
I could have sworn there was a post where Nanook laid out all his reads and this was in response to it but I can’t find it. I don’t like the idea that I was actually not on the same page on Mac and replying to two different players over several posts.

If anyone sees it...

I think you were replying to several posts of mine rather than one specific one? Not sure but your reply made sense to me at the time, so idk

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 1:28 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 2:49 am I don’t think I’d shoot wilgy today, if last game is anything to go on if he’s town he’ll show him himself eventually and be a force. I was terrified of him as soon as he started playing in the coronavirus game.

Johann wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 3:21 am If Dougall is mafia, he wouldnt be so critical and salty about Nutella death. He would just shrug it off and say stuff like everyone wanted her dead

Dougall came in and told us we were lazy, unmotivated and we allowed it to happen. Mafia doing a pep talk to town is beyond me. If dougall is mafia then wp

Id shoot
Dragomir - Hyena

I wouldnt shoot
Gman
Gman
@MacDougall I think these were the quotes about you and Wilgy I agreed with.

Yeah, the one about you was actually from Johann. There was a 4 or 5 layer multi quote discussing you so maybe I mixed that up? Couldn’t find Nanook saying he thought your reaction to Nutella’s death was honest, which is what I remember agreeing with.

I can understand why that’s not the best look for me but whatever.

We agreed that it was useless AtE that didn’t negate a prior TR IIRC

Johann wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 10:00 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 9:56 am
Johann wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 8:50 am Not only you youself arent confirmed townie you took his words 100% honest and locked him as town bcs he sings the song you wanna hear.

I listed Gman and Slooney as two i would never shoot and you never once commented on it but somehow Hyennas words are enough to give him massive town read when his list is 50% as mine and i was right about slooney???

Like what?

And you said me pushing for Dragomir kill doesnt clear me but you NEVER said anything about it to Hyena who clearly has Drago in his shoot list and Boo - that considers Jack - person you suspect - to be scum -.

I think your read of Hyenna is absolutely bad and full of holes.
You don’t get credit for sloonei when I had to fight you to include him
And yet out of everyone i was right about the person i said

I had to force it out of you and you didn’t even have him as a TR IIRC, just a null read. So. Yeah, not really giving credit for that

Johann wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 8:50 am Not only you youself arent confirmed townie you took his words 100% honest and locked him as town bcs he sings the song you wanna hear.

I listed Gman and Slooney as two i would never shoot and you never once commented on it but somehow Hyennas words are enough to give him massive town read when his list is 50% as mine and i was right about slooney???

Like what?

And you said me pushing for Dragomir kill doesnt clear me but you NEVER said anything about it to Hyena who clearly has Drago in his shoot list and Boo - that considers Jack - person you suspect - to be scum -.

I think your read of Hyenna is absolutely bad and full of holes.

You don’t get credit for sloonei when I had to fight you to include him

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 11:58 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 11:52 pm Idk that Johan should be cleared for the drago stuff tbh, not uncommon for scum to push their partner yeah? Especially if they don’t think they’ll actually get shot lol
If it was only that easy lol

Yeah unfortunately. Just saying it’s not particularly clearing for me

Idk that Johan should be cleared for the drago stuff tbh, not uncommon for scum to push their partner yeah? Especially if they don’t think they’ll actually get shot lol

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 11:00 pm Cool.

So, I feel like moving Nanook and Funny (as well as Sloonei) up to my topmost tier after last night. I felt good about the interactions I had with them.

That’s not the only reason you should feel good about me lol

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 10:08 pm Tentatively voting to give the gun to funnygurl.

Tentatively agree

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 10:07 pm This is why I prefer tea.

Spoken like a true new englander

I mean you were also a strong candidate for the gun D3 and likely to shoot drago yeah?

BOOM BYE SCUM

Also fuck me I was trying to protect sloonei by not admitting I was always shooting drago.

You guys are gonna be so happy

Unless I get it wrong then you’re gonna be pretty annoyed probably

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 11:09 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 4:54 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 4:45 am I would shoot Jack and Sloonei
Wouldn't shoot FG/Duskfall
Dusk is already dead so
derpclear accepted?

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Ok

Note that I don’t care if they’re scumreads or townreads, just who two you would and two you would not shoot tonight.

Alright guys I’m only gonna be here sporadically rest of the day, ping me with your top two don’t shoot and top two do shoot people please.

Seriously please don’t make me chase you down, just work with me here and make my life easier.

Why is this so hard

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 4:45 am I would shoot Jack and Sloonei
Wouldn't shoot FG/Duskfall

Dusk is already dead so

[mention]Sloonei[/mention] you got two and two for me?

C'mon dude I'm trying to work with you here. There's gotta be a second person somewhere you'd pull out of the pool today, even if you don't particularly TR them.

Johann wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 4:19 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 4:15 am
Johann wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 3:21 am If Dougall is mafia, he wouldnt be so critical and salty about Nutella death. He would just shrug it off and say stuff like everyone wanted her dead

Dougall came in and told us we were lazy, unmotivated and we allowed it to happen. Mafia doing a pep talk to town is beyond me. If dougall is mafia then wp

Id shoot
Dragomir - Hyena

I wouldnt shoot
Gman
Gman
Mac doing that is implicitly blaming everyone else for the wrong shot, yeah?
He is not blaming everyone. He is saying it like it is. Nutella being shot is a product of us fucking up d1. He said it like it is. He told us to wake the fuck up. Why would Mafia wake up town or tell us to get serious is beyond me.

And i am serious. Gman is only one i wouldnt want to be shot. Everyone else has a certain aspect to them i think its scummy. Well dusk is dusk he ded now.

Pick a second person anyways

Mac saying "you all let me down" is implicitly shunting responsibility.

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