The Syndicate

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:02 pm That’s an awfully manipulative post, you’re implying LC was obvious town when you voted for him AND implying ET was painfully scum even though you saved him by voting the dude who you apparently town read after his flip.

That’s a really bad look friend.

Tie break is determined after vote total.

In other words.

If sleazy saw that there was a tie they had to break rather than apparent leading vote getter ET dying

They should’ve chosen ET to die

It’s pretty simple and straightforward tbh

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:59 pm If et is scum which I think he is, then TSP is probably the second one. So I don’t agree with that read. But in rest, I could settle for the other reads.

This is heavily dependent on et’s flip, but if he’s mafia...What would a mafia do in this situation, KNOWING that et is the president. Well, they’d set up wagons, just like in a normal setup. But they don’t really have to be too aggressive.

Look at those wagons, it’s perfect for et’s president scenario. 3 people on a tie with him. Et is already buried in evidence against him. Actively fighting against his lynch is useless. But mafia can place their votes on people like...Long, for example.

At this point, I’d clear nova as being town / sk. Probably sprit as well. Epi is locked town for me, we agree on a lot of stuff and he’s just bleeding town. Sabie, although probably a bad take, I feel like is thread spewed at this point. Especially if et is mafia. Dom town. Creature town. Rej town. Mac town.

TSP scum, Nanook / enrique scum , Et scum

If I were mafia with a president ET I almost certainly would’ve pushed a wagon to 3 instead of banking on him winning a tiebreaker he never should win.

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:06 am
therealet wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:40 am
Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:25 am
therealet wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:08 am i was wolfread off a tinfoil and someone with tunnel vision figuring out how scum!me can make a post and turning everything i say against me
and you want to call me bad
you've heard of player salad
now here's JARGON SALAD !
youre doing nothing but proving my point
What exactly is your point?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:53 am
If I had that role I probably wouldn’t forget it existed lolol

therealet wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:16 am bad as in evil or bad as in no skill
What is the point of the "no skill" option?

therealet wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:25 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:22 am
therealet wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:16 am
bad as in evil or bad as in no skill
Given that I'd rather you not disparage anyone's ability, I am interested in the former.
yeah ik but you never know

the only person id realistically want lynched without having some doubt in myself is you or macdougall
That sounds awfully confident.

Anyway-- it's quite the turnaround from your Day 1 opinions as well.

Ah I see you are also a man of taste and sophistication

They let you talk during the night phase here. It’s weird.

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:25 am
therealet wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:08 am i was wolfread off a tinfoil and someone with tunnel vision figuring out how scum!me can make a post and turning everything i say against me
and you want to call me bad
you've heard of player salad
now here's JARGON SALAD !

<3

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:04 am
therealet wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:00 am i dont think you get how absolutely fucking frustrating and wim killing it is to have the most active players other than me pick on every fucking word i say, no matter what that is

you all have such fucking awful tunnel vision that im genuinely completely astounded
Dude.
Don't know what to tell you. You post a lot of bullshit.
Post better shit or admit you're bad.

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:36 am
Dom wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:25 am
Tedexter wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:43 pm No, I think Dom is scummy because of reasons already mentioned, but Et’s vote is worse in and of itself. That plus Epi’s remark on et kind of adds up in that uncertainty. The vote from et felt really opportunistic, it feels like he jumped on voting dom by using my post more than him having an actual reasoning, et was at 2 votes and Dom was sitting at 2, et just made him top lynch candidate with that vote.

Point is if Dom flips green then Et is probably scum. Weird dichotomy but I think at least one of them is scum. I am aware I’m wrong on one of them but I don’t know who.
bruh...
How do you know you're wrong about one of us?
Because you’re both scummy but you can’t be both scum.
Or.... you're scum and know that only one of us is too...
and it sure as shit ain't me.

Rej wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:48 pm Thinking about moving my vote, so I vote with players I townread.

The options here are:

- Dom
- therealet

I wish I had more options for the sake of PoE.
If I would heat on a civ wagon from my own PoV then I have a poor arsenal of choice to work with.

If I reckon correctly btw, then Dom was also a popular candidate to leave the game early? Atleast in the few games I played with him.

Another option would be voting Long Con and testing out the credibility of novas SRs. It could hurt town tho since Creature has a vote on LC.
I know that novas likes staging things and preparing mislynches one or two cycles ahead when a wolf.

Only neg read I personally agree 100%ly with novas could be sig. Hmmmmmmmmmm

Also I just woke up and had a shower and it's already evening in germany lmao.
This is a bad post.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:49 pm I think I’m just gonna hard align with LC/Dom/sprityo and pretend it’s because I have super strong town reads on them.

@Dom
@Long Con
@sprityo

Welcome to the crew. We shall call ourselves...the circle of literacy.
what a fucking crew.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:27 pm I missed bender and network executive at first glance, I’m not as literate as I want to be ok
Oh you conveniently forgot the baddie role you totally don't have?

If I had that role I probably wouldn’t forget it existed lolol

Probably actually is best to kill them tho, roughly 2/4 chance to hit not-town is pretty solid

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:27 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:23 pm Therealet is either hypnotoad or calculon or one of the secret roles, yeah? So probably don’t want to take them to LYLO, but uh, definitely not killing them tomorrow
I'd assume if Calculon survives the first attempt on him then no action would occur? It wouldn't make much sense for it to just be passed over and another player to get lynched.

Now it could be hypnotoad, but I've always been of the mindset that lynching and Independent early game is the best way to deal with them. Once you get further in you can't afford to waste a day on someone who's not mafia so they're best dealt with quickly. Basically minus Bender he's probably mafia.

My experience with similar roles (with the caveat that it’s on other sites) is that it would pass to the next player in line to be TKed.

I agree on independents tho, I’m very pro-getting rid of them early.

I missed bender and network executive at first glance, I’m not as literate as I want to be ok

Oh damn I missed that one.

Ok, so still a 2/4 chance theyre town

Therealet is either hypnotoad or calculon or one of the secret roles, yeah? So probably don’t want to take them to LYLO, but uh, definitely not killing them tomorrow

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:43 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:42 pm It’s not vaguely anti-town, it just is anti-town, flat out.
Hello I disagree. I’m willing to have this discussion with you.
Can you point me to where you laid out your argument?

Not calling votes makes it harder for town to keep track of who is being voted by whom and when, which is one of the few things that is actually tangibly quantifiable helpful for town wrt catching mafia. Hiding your votes is strictly a better environment for scum than for town.

It’s not vaguely anti-town, it just is anti-town, flat out.

For real tho not calling votes is super anti-town, call your damn votes people

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:04 pm I think Creature is town. At the very least, I'll vote to save him.

Ok who’s a better vote then?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:59 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:49 pm I think I’m just gonna hard align with LC/Dom/sprityo and pretend it’s because I have super strong town reads on them.

@Dom
@Long Con
@sprityo

Welcome to the crew. We shall call ourselves...the circle of literacy.
Oh, hey... that's cool, I can read and stuff. Why do you have a town read on me?

Emphasis on the word “pretend.”

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:00 pm Then why feel the need to point it out like that?

Cause I’m snarky sometimes. The post wasn’t even aimed at you tho

Get over yourself

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:54 pm You sure picked a colorful group of people

I’m merely an observer. But ask and you shall receive

Didn’t I tho

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:57 pm Do you all actually read defensiveness for a scum tell?

If I thought it was a scum tell I’d be voting you

I think I’m just gonna hard align with LC/Dom/sprityo and pretend it’s because I have super strong town reads on them.

[mention]Dom[/mention]
[mention]Long Con[/mention]
[mention]sprityo[/mention]

Welcome to the crew. We shall call ourselves...the circle of literacy.

Tedexter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:11 am I don't care how you view my post and whether it's bad or not. I'm completely transparent and I give my view on everything so that town can recognize me. On day one it's not about being right, because it's day one. Your first priority should be to act town, because that's your fucking job. If town recognizes town, you lock wolves into a box that they can't get out of. In truth, it's really hard lynching scum on day one. That's not really my objective. I want to get town read and help people narrow their PoE by reading me correctly, thus, increasing their chances of lynching scum.

I wasn’t addressing you but wow defensive much?

Also where I come from we kill scum on D1 something like 60% of the time, so.

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Also different definitions of useless. I see most of what you lot have done as useless tbh

therealet wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:37 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:33 pm
therealet wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:24 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:08 pm
therealet wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:42 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:06 am Btw saying X player’s posting is useless is a) kind of rude and b) also in itself useless

The fact is most posts in a mafia game are useless and not helpful for determining alignment, accept it and get over yourself.
at the time your iso was a a clusterfuck of nothing so that statement holds merit
It actually doesn’t—whether someone has done something or not less than 24 hours into a game is very rarely relevant to their alignment, as almost nobody has done anything actually relevant to that point
the statement 'nanook is being useless' definitely held merit back when it was said
Ok, and what does that say about my alignment? Nothing. Thus it is a useless statement, regardless of its accuracy or not.
lets not turn this into the shitfest that was the discussion about shade
being useless is absolutely AI for two reasons
- if your meta lines up with it
- the context you are being useless, such as, if everyone else is making content

I’m renowned for not being an especially effective D1 player outside of 451

therealet wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:24 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:08 pm
therealet wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:42 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:06 am Btw saying X player’s posting is useless is a) kind of rude and b) also in itself useless

The fact is most posts in a mafia game are useless and not helpful for determining alignment, accept it and get over yourself.
at the time your iso was a a clusterfuck of nothing so that statement holds merit
It actually doesn’t—whether someone has done something or not less than 24 hours into a game is very rarely relevant to their alignment, as almost nobody has done anything actually relevant to that point
the statement 'nanook is being useless' definitely held merit back when it was said

Ok, and what does that say about my alignment? Nothing. Thus it is a useless statement, regardless of its accuracy or not.

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:45 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:10 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:56 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:08 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:39 pm Lots of word vomit

It disgusts my eyes greatly

I’m voting no lynch
I like you can we be friends plz
only if your friends at 451 dont use confirmation bias ever again and follow some shmuck on a whim

I like you though nanook, why do you want to be friends?
I mean tbf they were right

I want to be friends cause I like your sass!
Oh right we didn’t interact at all in Inception

Don’t worry I’m less sass and all ass

As in all asshole, i get annoyed by certain aspects of the game at times

That’s what I liked about your post lol, I vibed with it

sig wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:27 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:06 am Btw saying X player’s posting is useless is a) kind of rude and b) also in itself useless

The fact is most posts in a mafia game are useless and not helpful for determining alignment, accept it and get over yourself.
This is a useless post.

Yep! Now you’re getting it

The poll says maccy macs is in this game, but I’ve read at least 2 pages and I’m not convinced

I’m not going to proselytize about how rarely scum is caught this way, but uh

It’s essentially rand accuracy

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:56 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:08 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:39 pm Lots of word vomit

It disgusts my eyes greatly

I’m voting no lynch
I like you can we be friends plz
only if your friends at 451 dont use confirmation bias ever again and follow some shmuck on a whim

I like you though nanook, why do you want to be friends?

I mean tbf they were right

I want to be friends cause I like your sass!

therealet wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:42 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:06 am Btw saying X player’s posting is useless is a) kind of rude and b) also in itself useless

The fact is most posts in a mafia game are useless and not helpful for determining alignment, accept it and get over yourself.
at the time your iso was a a clusterfuck of nothing so that statement holds merit

It actually doesn’t—whether someone has done something or not less than 24 hours into a game is very rarely relevant to their alignment, as almost nobody has done anything actually relevant to that point

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:39 pm Lots of word vomit

It disgusts my eyes greatly

I’m voting no lynch

I like you can we be friends plz

Also I refuse to live in a world where introducing people to shade court and Kara brown is useless tbh

Btw saying X player’s posting is useless is a) kind of rude and b) also in itself useless

The fact is most posts in a mafia game are useless and not helpful for determining alignment, accept it and get over yourself.

Dom wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:31 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:12 pm Thedex and realet are probably town
why and why and why

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:16 pm This is what shade is for the uneducated of you

https://jezebel.com/shade-court-is-in-s ... 1647145347
i live for kara brown

Hell yeah who wouldn’t

No, you're being obnoxious

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:12 pm Nanook's still being useless af

Teaching you what shade is is not useless

This is what shade is for the uneducated of you

https://jezebel.com/shade-court-is-in-s ... 1647145347

Holy whitney houston I do

Do I have to link the shade queen

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:38 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:37 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:32 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:44 pm In fact I’m even gonna vote one, in creature!
Yeah, you will definitely be useful
I’m very useful
Would object, but this game is really meh rn

I'm not useful RIGHT NOW, just in general

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:32 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:44 pm In fact I’m even gonna vote one, in creature!
Yeah, you will definitely be useful

I’m very useful

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Alright now it’s time to vanish back into the ether for awhile. I will likely respond to pings because I can’t help my vanity.

Let’s get this socky, for glory and for me!

Tedexter wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:36 pm See, this D0 phase is really awkward. If I would like to give reads, they'd actually be try hardy and serious and I don't know if you guys usually take this day phase to lay out the foundations for your accusations on d1 or if everything you say is a joke.

I've never had games with D0 phases, we just get straight down to business wherever I played.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:01 pm And I also post a lot
Is your posting volume dependent on your alignment, or is it more of a NAI thing? Like you do this as either alignment?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:01 pm

Day 0 and a subtle dig at the activity. A New Year's D0 nonetheless. Not a good look, Tedexter

I mean, yeah, for me it's still a phase. Game's started. I never played with D0 phases in my entire life, I just expect everyone to be active regardless.

You're saying that second line like I'm supposed to know people's activity, especially during New Year's. Given that it's free time I'd expect people to post more than post less, because they don't have to work. Wouldn't that be true? I don't see why it's not a good look to be honest. I don't like that shade mister nova, I might hop on the train sig is in charge of.

Could you elaborate on why it's suspicious to ask for activity, nova? Why would that be alignment indicative in any way?

You use a lot of words to not say very much don’t you.

Tedexter wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:30 pm To get discussion rolling as it’s a pretty passive start, I will use this day phase as an opportunity to try and get to know what type of players you guys are. I know these questions are annoying as hell, but try your best to answer seriously, please. It actually helps me deduce your alignments correctly, even if it looks like it’s a useless question.

First off, what do you prefer? Town / scum? And also, if you could describe your mafia and town game, how would you describe it? Any difference in between the two?

1. Yes
2. I probably could
3. Yes

In fact I’m even gonna vote one, in creature!

Yeah so I’m just gonna ignore the spam posters, cool? Cool.

Maybe not only but certainly mostly

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:40 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:20 pm Nobody told me this had started.

Does that make me town?
And then he was gone

I’m known for only showing up when people are talking about me

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