The Syndicate

Maybe my reads are actually good this game tbh

There’s a bus driver, talking about vig targets is bad

sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:23 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:20 pm
sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:43 pm Anyone that still wants to turn around and just lunch me after a combination of being on mac forever. And probably being pushed by his teammates plus the fact the scum read on me is bad to begin with. Anyone who wants to focus on me is probably scum over Mac and his team.
You know this doesn’t clear you from being with the rabies team right?
It should to a large degree sinxe my mac read predated the whole tmi nonesense.

Though I also stand by what I've always said the reasoning is weak paired with a major point against me was my d2 vote and ignoring radish.

Which I did do mainly in my big post but that was because I was pursuing mac who was nafia.

Uh no I mean I think you’re town but no this is wrong

*having

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:47 pm Hey guys just wanna catch up here a bitty bit.

Mac is still a person who could survive a nightkill but isn't who sig 'slipped' him to be? Or even on the same team?

How would we parse that? My sig suspicion remains independent of the 'slip', but it's a lot weaker without it.

Mac is exactly the role that sig is accused of facing too much TMI on IIRC

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:46 pm Timing is good. Audrey (my first born) just got admitted to hospital. Good luck to my team. Well done to my adversaries.

Good luck, hope everything is ok

sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:43 pm Anyone that still wants to turn around and just lunch me after a combination of being on mac forever. And probably being pushed by his teammates plus the fact the scum read on me is bad to begin with. Anyone who wants to focus on me is probably scum over Mac and his team.

You know this doesn’t clear you from being with the rabies team right?

God I’m dying for this flip

Not gonna lie I kinda love Jack’s schtick

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:09 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:03 pm
sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:36 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:30 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:19 pm Speedchuck is short odds to be scum here imo
You never responded to my addressing your accusation earlier.

Am I active in scumchat, Mac?
Yes and got told to switch to them on this-2 junk.

Funny people seem able to figure out that role but not any other info ones.
@Juliet this reads like a lassie post to me, I think.

I mean I’ve been wrong before (elephant in inception) so I’m not gonna yell at people for disagreeing, but yeah that’s what I see.
Ok I see. I read it as sig saying he's got an info role but I didn't see it as specifically Lassie. Maybe he is an info role but that's also the only way he can defend against Dizzy's logic. Also, I was taken in by Elephant as well lol, so I'm no better judge than you!

Lmao yeah, that was unfortunate!

I read it as a lassie hint, but idk.

Yeah, I mean, normal game I’d be pushing this, syndicate no claims game means I’m not cause it’s just...it’s a lot more tenuous and easily abused as scum. But it’s what my gut says so I’m going with it

sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:36 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:30 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:19 pm Speedchuck is short odds to be scum here imo
You never responded to my addressing your accusation earlier.

Am I active in scumchat, Mac?
Yes and got told to switch to them on this-2 junk.

Funny people seem able to figure out that role but not any other info ones.

[mention]Juliet[/mention] this reads like a lassie post to me, I think.

I mean I’ve been wrong before (elephant in inception) so I’m not gonna yell at people for disagreeing, but yeah that’s what I see.

Hang on I’ll find the post and quote it

Calling a Mac vote obviously

Ugh. Nonzero chance sig is lassie, but I don’t want to reward hinting (cause what’s the fucking point of playing a no reveals game if we can just soft it anyways).

I’m probably moving my vote I kinda think he is tbh. Or this’ll be the second time here that scum has hinted at being a cop and gotten me to move off them

Like for every reason to TR someone, you can make the argument “yeah but maybe they’re just scum that are hunting.” So. I’m not super committed to more than a couple reads and even those are subject to change.

Tbh I don’t have strong feelings on most players. It’s better than D1 obviously but multiball and games this big are both kinda stupid so

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:34 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:31 pm Nutella flipping 3p
Already did that fam

It would be pretty hilarious if you got subbed into the other 3p slot, but this was actually the answer to a question

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:32 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:31 pm Nutella flipping 3p
I think that's a good argument that his bi-directional read on nutella was genuine. I'm not sure it had to be civilian-genuine.

Sure, could be mafia genuine. You asked what the best reason is, that was it imo. Think there’s less incentive for scum jack to do that

By the by, this “if sig flips mafia we can just jail/RB the last member of the anti-monitor team!” is just...bad. It’s not a good plan. If we have that good of an idea who it is, we should just clear them out tbh. It’s not a plan that ever works no matter how often it’s tried.

Nutella flipping 3p

sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:27 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:24 pm
sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:18 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Switch off me mynch mafia
Sorry I’m sheeping Dom
Dom cant read me worth a dman and is also mislybching me. Not to mention like I just said his vote is hella dumb.

He ignored a scum wagon and pushed mac on even less reasoning then me. Just to switch? Makes no sense. He doesnt know what hes doing here.

I’m still hard aligning with him today

sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:18 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Switch off me mynch mafia

Sorry I’m sheeping Dom

Probably won’t be around in any significant capacity before EOD, ping me and I might see it

I’m basing that mostly off votes tbh I’m not as confident as I sound

If sig is with radishes and sabie I think tranq is the fourth

If sig is scum then tranq is basically confirmed imo, jfc

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:20 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:48 am That sucks about your phone. Is it a water issue, or just bricked out of nowhere?
just out of nowhere. luckily I was just within warranty by like a month lol so I'm getting a replacement sent to me tomorrow. but damn even a day without a phone is annoying af

Yeah that’s rough, I had to go two days without one last year and I damn near went insane. Made work very hard haha

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:04 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:15 pm I've looked over Dizzy's accusation of sig and sig's general responses. Thoughts:

~ I do think there is contextual space to say it's not a "slip" -- when sig referred to Mac in his response to S~V~S, it was an extension of the theory he had previously presented. This may be semantic depending upon what we define a slip to be -- maybe TMI is the better term.

I don't know if I can express my thought without getting convoluted but here goes. I see where you are saying sig referenced Mac being the target of the night kill prior but this example doesn't explain his comment to S~V~S. In that comment he spoke from the pov of someone who knew Mac was targeted with the kill because he did not entertain the thought that someone else besides Mac could have been targeted and saved or someone else might be the civ role. Instead, he talked about Mac being protected or Mac being the civ. I'm not saying it wasn't an extension of the theory he had but it was an extension that named Mac as the only possible target. If you want to call that TMI as opposed to a slip that's fine with me. Anyway, my point here was I don't think his prior mention helps him. If you think I have this wrong please let me know.

To play devil’s advocate: he also spent most of D1 making associative reads off the assumption I was scum. So. This might just be how sig is?

That sucks about your phone. Is it a water issue, or just bricked out of nowhere?

Mac’s flip doesn’t really confirm or refute anything on sig either imo. Like even if he flips a role that doesn’t have NK protection the people that think sig slipped are just going to say “oh well Mac just got docced and they thought he was the Master*!”

Imo one of their alignments doesn’t say anything more about the other than most randomly selected pairs.

*i don’t remember if this is the correct role but I’m too lazy to check. You’re all smart enough to know what I’m saying, hopefully.

Honestly I don’t even super buy the slip business, but....I also don’t mind sig dying today

Radish/sabie team targeting Mac and Mac not dying doesn’t automatically make Mac scum (actually it makes him 50/50, roughly)

So it’s not quite as clear cut as “kill Mac and we know sig’s alignment.”

Fwiw my natural reaction to most things is snark or sarcasm

You’re right mac, I’m not treating this game Super Seriously. I’m treating this game as a game. Because it’s what I do with moments of free time to distract myself. Not really interested in the MAFIA IS SERIOUS BUSINESS AND ANYBODY THAT DOESNT TAKE IT SERIOUSLY IS A PIECE OF SHIT THAT SHOULD GO PLAY CHARADES INSTEAD approach

You guys take this game too seriously sometimes, sheesh

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:41 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:48 pm You guys are also being verrrrry liberal with the term gaslighting
I have a wonderful solution to this. You'll see it one day.

As long as it’s electric

“Math is scummy!”

(That’s calling a sig vote ftr)

Fine I give in to the fun aunt

Somewhat begrudgingly

I am a sorcerer and each day I say “Abrica-fucking-dabra, Kalamazoo, I’m gonna make a rabbit out of you!” and nothing happens it will become more obvious.

With pots and pans and everything.

I will literally riot

If you survive to end game wtf are we even doing here

I want to vote tranq but then I also think Mac and Jay are above rand to be scum so....that's pretty much how this game has gone though

Well the real world sucks a bit so far tonight, how's mafia going?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:04 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:00 pm I’m telling you both to shut up tbf

Not even in general just this back and forth is no longer productive

Talk about literally anything that isn’t yelling at each other lol
This is exactly how I felt when I was six and my parents were ramping up to divorcing.

Oof

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:02 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:00 pm I’m telling you both to shut up tbf

Not even in general just this back and forth is no longer productive

Talk about literally anything that isn’t yelling at each other lol
This is literally the third time I've been told to stop talking about my suspects.

Ok, I’ll rephrase

Talk about them, but yelling back and forth with them isn’t productive at this point, yeah? We know how you feel and your read (which I actually kind of like), yelling back and forth is more likely to turn people off from paying attention to your read

Idk man there’s just a lot of yelling going on that seems unnecessary, I’m not trying to stifle you from talking in general

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