The Syndicate

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:24 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:20 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:14 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:08 pm Dubz has been straddling turning for a while- if Michelle had been yeeted instead, Dubz would have turned mafia and win with them.
I thought Michelle was the virtue, but I knew I couldn't push her. I'm curious what Wilgy and Falcon's roles did.
Of course I was, and I was the one with the post restriction as well. The limit was 10 posts and it put 2 votes on you when exceeding it and i targeted you N1 because i misread it and I thought i give you the power of 2 votes.
Svs was a SR but she succeed to talk me out of that suspicion.

Scotty, can you share all the actions?
That's pretty funny. Were you the one that picked me to post a lot too?

Read Matahari's role

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:17 pm Good game y'all. Twas fun!

Thanks Scotty for the host! and thank you Mods!

Town, I'm sorry I failed you. I take the blame for this one entirely.

No, it's not your fault, it's hard to play with one townie coming in the day and voting another townie and then receiving votes when you think you are clear.
I am glad I reached the conclusion you are town and that should show me SVS was bad

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:14 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:08 pm Dubz has been straddling turning for a while- if Michelle had been yeeted instead, Dubz would have turned mafia and win with them.
I thought Michelle was the virtue, but I knew I couldn't push her. I'm curious what Wilgy and Falcon's roles did.

Of course I was, and I was the one with the post restriction as well. The limit was 10 posts and it put 2 votes on you when exceeding it and i targeted you N1 because i misread it and I thought i give you the power of 2 votes.
Svs was a SR but she succeed to talk me out of that suspicion.

Scotty, can you share all the actions?

Scotty thanks for the game!!!

Everyone, thanks for playing

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:11 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:10 pm I knew Thunal is bad but I had no allies to push for her chop.

Who killed Sean?
No idea, it wasn't even us. You played great btw, and I enjoyed the power wolfing compliment!

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:08 pm Dubz has been straddling turning for a while- if Michelle had been yeeted instead, Dubz would have turned mafia and win with them.

I am not an easy mischop smh

I knew Thunal is bad but I had no allies to push for her chop.

Who killed Sean?

Well, congrats Wilgy, your paranoia was correct

Ans congrats mafia, well played!

Who was JD?

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:56 pm I really hope town can win this.

I still play because I don't give up until it's game over, but town played without the benefit of the doubt for Porscha, I played without the benefit of the doubt for tutuu, nook played like the game doesn't count, etc.

[VOTE: Matahari] aubergine

Sorry if wrong, honestly...

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:51 pm Oh God. The more I think on it the more I think SVS dodging the RB is maf indicative.

*Panicking*

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:46 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:43 pm I slept too little time

I mean, it's a lot of dedication to wake up for a 4 am EoD at all.

I got used to it, that's one reason I should stop playing here and at MU.
I came here on this game to play with the players I like so much, I couldn’t resist

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:43 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:38 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:27 pm [VOTE: SVS] aubergine come play fam
No
I know I'm just paranoid. I'm seeing no resistance to Mata going over, not even from Mata. Freaks me the fuck out.

Mata was defended all game by one or another. She would be chopped long ago if not for ideas like this is her game regardless alignament and she never can play more than D3 without being (mis)chopped.

The way she voiced suspicion on D1 only on top wagons is a big question mark for me.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:42 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:36 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:26 pm I feel that Dubz is like, the correct choice only if Thunal is a teammate.

SVS not being here for the past 24 hours gives me the heejobeejos
I do wonder why she isn't breaking her postcap.
Could JD afford to potentially be blocked?

Could town in this position?

I slept too little time

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:37 pm I think it makes the most sense to stay on Mata. I'm fairly confident she isn't town at this point and I don't have the same level of confidence with anyone else.

I only hope she is mafia and not a sin, fingers crossed

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:27 pm [VOTE: SVS] aubergine come play fam

No

Everyone choose to fake towny intent except Falcon and SVS.
Except nook, as well.
So I am not ready to go against SVS.
She may not act of she is not in danger because she met the not receive the RB condition and there is that

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:45 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:19 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:07 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:34 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:12 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:02 pm -
all other Deadly Sins die or change alignment before all Virtues are dead, you will become town-aligned
-If all Virtues die before all other Sins die, you will become mafia, gaining BTSC with all other members a full phase after becoming mafia
.

Any other sin dying would be fine ig, except there's one more sin with the same ability to become town or one who only keep 3rd party rand and can't become mafia.

If we are at 2 baddies rn, there's still hope anyway.

@Falcon45ca i need you buddy

Hey ho, I'm here
hey ho, talk to me about everyone, how you see them, tinfoils and all
Mata doesn't seem towny at all.

Thunal has been pretty towny all game, yet hasn't been NKd.

SVS seems to be towny when they need to be

Dubs is certainly a Sin

Wilgy miiiiiiiight be town, but I'd also not be surprised in the least he's JD

I'd like to think you're town, but you're pinging me w/ pocket vibes a bit as well
I ping you with the request to play the game. I know you care more about the game than nook and working with the only player who seems mech town is just logical

Do you trust Dubz's claim?

About SVS if you are town and Wilgy is town, then she is not, but idk if that makes her JD. She wasn't content about her posting restriction but she burned her posts pretty fast without voting and I don't like it

I didn't mean pinging in that sense, I meant more that I'm wary that you are pocketing.

I don't think Dubz blocking Nook was towny at all, and I''' be surprised if they're not Maf aligned

I won’t fight against your impression, I just tried to convince you to post and here you are, posting. Tutuu pocketed many players and she was town. It all depends how you look at it and see what's the true intention.

Dubz is not town, she doesn't need to make towny actions. Honestly I would be surprised if she is mafia.

I think I will better sleep now at wake up at 4 am to be here for Eod
for now
[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

the OP says that the vote should be posted itt as well, that's why I didn't notice it

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:25 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:24 pm DrWilgy 1 Voters: Michelle
Dubz 2 Voters: DrWilgy, Matahari
Matahari 2 Voters: Thunal33, falcon45ca

The VC now. After I said countless times that Dubz is not the today chop, she still has a wagon formed bt Matahari who is self pressing and Wilgy who idk why is still voting Dubz.
Think again!

explain it again, I am really tired, it's pat 10 pm for me

DrWilgy 1 Voters: Michelle
Dubz 2 Voters: DrWilgy, Matahari
Matahari 2 Voters: Thunal33, falcon45ca

The VC now. After I said countless times that Dubz is not the today chop, she still has a wagon formed bt Matahari who is self pressing and Wilgy who idk why is still voting Dubz.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:07 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:34 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:12 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:02 pm -
all other Deadly Sins die or change alignment before all Virtues are dead, you will become town-aligned
-If all Virtues die before all other Sins die, you will become mafia, gaining BTSC with all other members a full phase after becoming mafia
.

Any other sin dying would be fine ig, except there's one more sin with the same ability to become town or one who only keep 3rd party rand and can't become mafia.

If we are at 2 baddies rn, there's still hope anyway.

@Falcon45ca i need you buddy

Hey ho, I'm here
hey ho, talk to me about everyone, how you see them, tinfoils and all
Mata doesn't seem towny at all.

Thunal has been pretty towny all game, yet hasn't been NKd.

SVS seems to be towny when they need to be

Dubs is certainly a Sin

Wilgy miiiiiiiight be town, but I'd also not be surprised in the least he's JD

I'd like to think you're town, but you're pinging me w/ pocket vibes a bit as well

I ping you with the request to play the game. I know you care more about the game than nook and working with the only player who seems mech town is just logical

Do you trust Dubz's claim?

About SVS if you are town and Wilgy is town, then she is not, but idk if that makes her JD. She wasn't content about her posting restriction but she burned her posts pretty fast without voting and I don't like it

Eod 2
Dennis 2 Zenon, RondoDimBuckle
Kate 9 MacDougall, pyxxy, Jackofhearts2005, Michelle, Thunal33, Seanzie, S~V~S, tutuu, DrWilgy
Macdougall 1 NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Matahari 1 falcon45ca
Seanzie 1 Dennis
S~V~S 1 Epignosis
tutuu 1 Kate
Zenon 1 Matahari
Unvote 1 Roxy

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:54 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:52 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 3:15 pm...

Eod 1 wagons

DaughterOfOmega 1 Epignosis
falcon45ca 1 Seanzie
jackofhearts2005 1 pyxxy
Porscha 10 tutuu, MacDougall, RondoDimBuckle, Roxy, Zenon, Jackofhearts2005, Thunal33, Dennis, Kate, falcon45ca
Seanzie 1 NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
tutuu 7 Matahari, Porscha, DrWilgy, DaughterOfOmega, Dubz, S~V~S, Michelle

...
None of the red names was red at Eod 1, they were converted N1 and N2 and their spew doesn't show anything because they couldn't know who JD is
Wait, N1 and N2? Why would you think they were converted different nights? They could have been converted at the same time.

idk, it's a theory, Dennis posted so little and I didn't check Pyxxy's Iso to see if something changed, but at Eod 1 they were both purple, right?

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 3:15 pm...

Eod 1 wagons

DaughterOfOmega 1 Epignosis
falcon45ca 1 Seanzie
jackofhearts2005 1 pyxxy
Porscha 10 tutuu, MacDougall, RondoDimBuckle, Roxy, Zenon, Jackofhearts2005, Thunal33, Dennis, Kate, falcon45ca
Seanzie 1 NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
tutuu 7 Matahari, Porscha, DrWilgy, DaughterOfOmega, Dubz, S~V~S, Michelle

...

None of the red names was red at Eod 1, they were converted N1 and N2 and their spew doesn't show anything because they couldn't know who JD is

Dubz wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 3:16 pm If it helps, nanook was blocked because of me

this is the claim, btw

the desire to be helfpul doesn't come from JD imo

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:12 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:02 pm -
all other Deadly Sins die or change alignment before all Virtues are dead, you will become town-aligned
-If all Virtues die before all other Sins die, you will become mafia, gaining BTSC with all other members a full phase after becoming mafia
.

Any other sin dying would be fine ig, except there's one more sin with the same ability to become town or one who only keep 3rd party rand and can't become mafia.

If we are at 2 baddies rn, there's still hope anyway.

@Falcon45ca i need you buddy

Hey ho, I'm here

hey ho, talk to me about everyone, how you see them, tinfoils and all

Matahari wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:21 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:06 pm
Matahari wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:56 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:41 pm
Matahari wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:38 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:56 pm Mata is never town, btw

My honest read and no one is pushing her either.
Mean while Falcon is voting me and is not even here to talk to me.
I don’t know what you mean here. I’ve only played in 3 or 4 games since anniversary game, and I was only wolf in one of them - LG+M, and I got called out the first day I was under difficult circumstances in that game, but if doesn’t change the fact that I suck worse at being bad than I do at being town. Once upon a time in the classic years, I did ok, but not the way ppl play now

Please tell me if I’m getting this right. If we get a sin today, and John Doe gets a sin tonight, then that is hopeful for town, correct? But if we miselim a virtue today, or JD gets a virtue tonight, then it’s at Lylo?
If Falcon's wounds remove him from the game somehow then this is lylo.
Thank you. If we eliminate a sin today, would that keep us out of Lylo, or maybe give us another day?
why don't you want to elim mafia though?
But I do want to eliminate mafia, I don’t care if they are already mafia, or still just recruited, or JD. That’s what I don’t get, why is no one interested in eliminating someone who has admitted being a sin? I reread Dubz, and there are things I don’t understand. Her first post about her ability was about blocking Nook. Then she said she could make someone post less. I don’t see how posting less gets you blocked, especially when she said that all that happens is, she steals your vote if you fail. Why would she even use that ability on someone who was already a low poster?
I’m thinking that she has just as good a shot at being JD as being a sin. Because it seems like she used more than one ability. If I read correctly, JD has access to the sins abilities.

The ability is

As a night action, you may target a player. They will be told “it would be wise to not talk much” the following day.
If ???

we don't know what is after if, but she claimed to have the action all nights. I know this is open knowledge, but still, i think her play makes sense, the way she claimed, the fact she claimed when it wasn't really necessary, gives me the idea that the claim is true and she is lust and can convert to town if the conditions are met.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:08 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:06 pm how you said you convinced Sean you are town, Wilgy?
Hmm? Not sure I understand the question Michelle.

what have you done in your BTSC to convince Sean you are town?

how you said you convinced Sean you are town, Wilgy?

Matahari wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:56 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:41 pm
Matahari wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:38 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:56 pm Mata is never town, btw

My honest read and no one is pushing her either.
Mean while Falcon is voting me and is not even here to talk to me.
I don’t know what you mean here. I’ve only played in 3 or 4 games since anniversary game, and I was only wolf in one of them - LG+M, and I got called out the first day I was under difficult circumstances in that game, but if doesn’t change the fact that I suck worse at being bad than I do at being town. Once upon a time in the classic years, I did ok, but not the way ppl play now

Please tell me if I’m getting this right. If we get a sin today, and John Doe gets a sin tonight, then that is hopeful for town, correct? But if we miselim a virtue today, or JD gets a virtue tonight, then it’s at Lylo?
If Falcon's wounds remove him from the game somehow then this is lylo.
Thank you. If we eliminate a sin today, would that keep us out of Lylo, or maybe give us another day?

why don't you want to elim mafia though?

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:05 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:57 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:53 pm I’m definitely not posting the minimum possible either. I’ve posted a whole lot this game including little out of the box observations I’d have a really hard time faking.
I know you can power wolf, do you have anything this game that you think sets you apart from how you played in Solar System Mafia specifically? That's what I thought to be the most recent reference to you being a scummuffin.
For one thing I don’t push Mac and I also don’t express the strong belief he can find me as town. That would be very risky. There are a lot of small reads that show my town solving process that I wouldn’t think of faking if I were scum, probably not even uninformed scum because it shows the effort I put in to making sure I’m right. Getting excited about the pyxxy maf flip and immediately looking at spew is also towny for me.

Nope, that would be bold play and that's why you were always away from POEs
I suspect JD has a self protection of some kind against NKs, so you would be safe as JD making any kind of solving process and/or searching for spew

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:53 pm I’m definitely not posting the minimum possible either. I’ve posted a whole lot this game including little out of the box observations I’d have a really hard time faking.

Do you say you are out of your scum range?

Mata is never town, btw

My honest read and no one is pushing her either.
Mean while Falcon is voting me and is not even here to talk to me.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:50 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:45 pm About the quote from Thunal, the read she made for Porscha and for me are meta reads and are not hard to make by a skilled wolf.
Dizzy is always doing it when he is wolfing, describing my play in a way i can accept to be a real thought.

What I dislike about Thunal is the post about being in good shape (at Sod after Epi flipped with 3 townies - how on Earth losing 3 townies at once meant good shape?) and the impression I have from this Sod that she is a robot playing, applying an algorithm instead searching for truth.

I tried to check if anyone is tinfoiling her, I waited to see if her solve is towning up, but she posts exactly the minimum possible to keep solving appareances without making waves.

This is not how a townie plays imo.
I admire her (like usual) regardless alignament, and I am aware mafia and the sins will never vote for her if I am right.

Back to townies being in short supply, I can't play alone, come here folks!!!
That was actually the wrong phase. I felt good when pyxxy died in the night and Kate flipped sin the previous day with Dennis being outed since I thought 3 baddies dead/outed was good for d3.

I didn't check, but idk why I felt the enthusiasm was off regardless.
Sorry I mixed up the days.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:45 pm I keep rereading the exchange between Dubz/Mata/Thunal about Dubz's role and I can't seem to understand it. Can someone draw a picture for me?

Dubz came very proud of herself saying she RBed nook before the chop.
She said how her role works and Thunal talked about the info about a sin role who appeared in the OP at one moment, matching her claim.
If you read her Iso it's pretty clear ig

What's your take?

About the quote from Thunal, the read she made for Porscha and for me are meta reads and are not hard to make by a skilled wolf.
Dizzy is always doing it when he is wolfing, describing my play in a way i can accept to be a real thought.

What I dislike about Thunal is the post about being in good shape (at Sod after Epi flipped with 3 townies - how on Earth losing 3 townies at once meant good shape?) and the impression I have from this Sod that she is a robot playing, applying an algorithm instead searching for truth.

I tried to check if anyone is tinfoiling her, I waited to see if her solve is towning up, but she posts exactly the minimum possible to keep solving appareances without making waves.

This is not how a townie plays imo.
I admire her (like usual) regardless alignament, and I am aware mafia and the sins will never vote for her if I am right.

Back to townies being in short supply, I can't play alone, come here folks!!!

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:31 pm Pondering something.

So we are assuming Slot is Dubz yes? (can someone iterate why this mechanically exists?)

Slot doesn't gain BTSC until a full phase after the last virtue is yeeted. I wonder how this affects parity. Wolves who don't know each other can't control the vote even if it's 2T-2W for example.

Dubz claimed a role who appears in the OP but Idk since when it is there.
She wasn’t content of the reveal from my perception.

You start with no teammates. If a Deadly Sin changes to align with you, you will immediately know their identity but ???

In addition to using your normal factional kill, you may employ one of the following one-shot actions each night:
Gluttony: ???
Greed: ???
Sloth: ???
Lust: ???
Pride: ???
Envy: ???
Wrath: ???
When you use an action that corresponds to a Deadly Sin, you may also ???

JD role, it's clearly stated they didn't know who the sins are.

Spoiler: show

Tutuu's last Poe can't be made only with villas, isn't it?
Let's look at it
wilgy
rondo
nook
thunal
falcon

She had Kate as top town D1, why was Kate targeting her to kill her?

Idk if that’s going anywhere but since I made the search maybe someone else can see what I don't see

Lust role shows that Kate killed tutuu

Matahari wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:03 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:57 am Well, if I have to trust Wilgy as town, which is very hard at this moment, that means Falcon is the other one by logic of him being in critical condition (caveat a gambit from scum to present him as almost dying without it to be the case, but that's not a tinfoil I am willing to entertain today).

So everyone else would be scum, so
Maybe that's not really the case?

We never chop Dubz btw, if there's a small chance for town victory it comes from the wolves killing her if we chop a sin today because I understood in that case she becomes town and she is confirmed.

Please correct me if i am wrong that's from the top of my head.

Now. I see an effort from everyone to solve and all but I waited something more substantial, more lively, more concrete than what I read in the last posts.

Sigh
It is my understanding that if a virtue dies today, or tonight, then Dubz becomes mafia. Maybe I have it wrong?

No, but there's the other way around where mafia doesn't NK the last virtue, and also in the scenario we don't mischop today again

Thunal i voiced some paranoia about you, why you ignored it?

-

all other Deadly Sins die or change alignment before all Virtues are dead, you will become town-aligned
-If all Virtues die before all other Sins die, you will become mafia, gaining BTSC with all other members a full phase after becoming mafia

.

Any other sin dying would be fine ig, except there's one more sin with the same ability to become town or one who only keep 3rd party rand and can't become mafia.

If we are at 2 baddies rn, there's still hope anyway.

@Falcon45ca i need you buddy

Well, if I have to trust Wilgy as town, which is very hard at this moment, that means Falcon is the other one by logic of him being in critical condition (caveat a gambit from scum to present him as almost dying without it to be the case, but that's not a tinfoil I am willing to entertain today).

So everyone else would be scum, so

Maybe that's not really the case?

We never chop Dubz btw, if there's a small chance for town victory it comes from the wolves killing her if we chop a sin today because I understood in that case she becomes town and she is confirmed.

Please correct me if i am wrong that's from the top of my head.

Now. I see an effort from everyone to solve and all but I waited something more substantial, more lively, more concrete than what I read in the last posts.

Sigh

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:14 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 4:44 pm
Spoiler: show
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:22 am Ah, a 22 day game 1 and it's not champs...

Can either a 3p or a townie give me a tldr? Wolves stay quiet, I want no misinformation from you.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:32 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:24 pm @DrWilgy srsly curious. How can anyone on D 1 of *this* game have tmi?
Is this something to do specifically with THIS game? Because jokes on you if you think I've read the setup outside of the rules.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 7:45 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:25 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Rn this is my best guess.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:19 pm
While I agree. This is a TMI pocket attempt.
I looked at this post a lot and in addition to the possibilities of Wilgy being scum with TMI or it being a fake derp, Wilgy could also be 3p who didn't know that there was only one wolf in the game and thought wolves would have TMI.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 11:20 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:54 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:49 am Wolfy 4th vote on Tutuu.

Have a nice day.
ah okay here, let me help you make this kind of post NAI for you

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine
Does Pyxxy legitimately think that voting me would suddenly turn a post that should be NAI to a post that should be NAI? How does your voting me ACTUALLY make a difference here?

I wasn't giving you anything AI in the first place.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 11:05 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:26 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:22 am Ah, a 22 day game 1 and it's not champs...

Can either a 3p or a townie give me a tldr? Wolves stay quiet, I want no misinformation from you.
Tutuu is sus, Dennis is stiff as a board, Epi seems towny, Dubz seems towny, Kate seems towny, Thunal seems towny
Thank you. Can you express the gist of Mac as well?
These quotes are here as examples of how Wilgy sort of has these disconnected thoughts and doesn't follow up on anything. So far his posts feel like trying to look busy rather than solving.
If this is busy work, then you don't know what busy work is my friend.

I'm just chillin till the thread slows down.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:58 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:56 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:00 am Slay the outed one!

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine
do you have any reads to share with the class?
Nope. I'm just sheeping people that sound correct to sheep.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:47 pm
Dubz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:46 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:58 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:56 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:00 am Slay the outed one!

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine
do you have any reads to share with the class?
Nope. I'm just sheeping people that sound correct to sheep.
Wouldn't that by definition mean you're reading the people you're sheeping
I suppose so, but I wouldn't be able to tell you why.

I'm sad Seanzie is gone, as they were who I sheeped last cycle and today.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:30 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:20 am This is for myself, a kind of reads list, but in the poll order

Dennis - outed scum

DrWilgy - low impact, maybe a sin, if not please play @DrWilgy

Dubz - busy IRL, relaxed tone, idk

Epignosis - i liked the analysis of the setup but that's not really AI.

falcon45ca - good tone, low impact, in the upper part of the null

jackofhearts2005 - time will tell, maybe town, not on the chopping block but he should show his towny soul if that’s his alignment

Macdougall - tinfoilable unfortunately. Not today.

Matahari - not very towny, not really scummy. I didn't notice agenda, so I will put her also above null.

Michelle -

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - suspicious

RondoDimBuckle - self confidemt, making a reactionary play, RTs, meh. Idk, hopefully town

Roxy - towny

S~V~S - looked like she is solving but i don't get the Poe except Nook, please explain @S~V~S

Thunal33 - my top town previous days, gives me paranoia for her fear of dying yday, but still town.
I'm not a sin silly, and I am playing. Just not in a way that's constructive at all.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:38 pm Hoenstly, if it helps to just clear me and remove me from PoE:
I was BTSC with Seanzie before they were killed. Seanzie was helping me get into the game while at the same time I shared all my info with them.

Between BTSC Seanzie's PoE went from including me here:
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:05 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:02 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:29 pm So who do people think John Doe is?
Nook, Thun, Jack, Wilgy, Falcon all deserve more scrutiny IMO. You might as well, but this is the first post I think I've seen of you, so I'm not actually qualified to say anything about you at this point.
If I had to order the list it would probably be

Nook
Falcon
Wilgy
Jack
Thun

In order of most likely baddie to least likely baddie.
To not after sharing data:
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:09 am
Dubz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:04 am Is there a sort of...thread consensus POE so I can prioritize ISOs? I've only really looked at flips and where I was mentioned (will get to that shortly), and I skimmed end of D2 last night.
Dennis is outed. We are looking for more baddies. My eyes are on Nook. I am wary of Falcon and Roxy. People like Jack and Epi deserve more scrutiny IMO, but idk if this is consensus, but I am town KING, so what I say, goes.
I share this as I don't think anyone would counter claim me on being in BTSC with Seanzie and Seanzie wouldn't remove me from the PoE without good reason. If less energy is wasted assessing me, I'd say this is a net positive for the town.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:02 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:06 pm @S~V~S yah I do. falcon, Epi and Jack. Tinfoil- Thunal.

New tinfoil is that Wigly had BTSC with Seanzie was going to outed and killed him in the middle of it. Except that Seanzie said he had outed 2 (Kate/Dennis) and cleared 1 (was it Wigly or was he saying that to get reactions idk bc he never outright said who he had cleared)

Also in one of my previous posts to you you said "I don't really see any questions except for inre: Dennis" but I was just responding to you and giving you my thoughts no questions you are correct.
Considering Seanzie had posted that I was removed from the PoE at the exact same time they were shot, this doesn't make sense.

If my strategy as W was to convince Seanzie I was town and to pull myself out of PoE, I would've waited to ensure I was pulled out before shooting him. There's no way that happened as the death and Seanzie's post were simultaneous.

So if my claim is false
1. Why did I wait to shoot him?
2. Was it luck that I was pulled from PoE upon doing so?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:21 pm Does someone care to iterate out the mechanical information we have before I start doing ISOs?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:29 pm Suppose it's ISO time if that's all the mech we have.

Seanzie's remaining 'let's get hereamajig' contains Falcon and Nook still. Everyone else is dead, so I guess I'll start there.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:40 am Someone talk to me about Matahari

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:41 am DaughterOfOmega 1
Voters: Epignosis
falcon45ca 1
Voters: Seanzie
Jackofhearts2005 1
Voters: Pyxxy
Porscha 10
Voters: Tutuu, Macdougall, RondoDimBuckle, Roxy, Zenon, Jackofhearts2005, Thunal33, Dennis, Kate, falcon45ca
Seanzie 1
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Tutuu 7
Voters: Matahari, Porscha, DrWilgy, DaughterOfOmega, Dubz, S~V~S, Michelle

Dennis 2
Voters: Zenon, RondoDimBuckle
Kate 9
Voters: Macdougall, Pyxxy, Jackofhearts2005, Michelle, Thunal33, Seanzie, S~V~S, Tutuu, DrWilgy
Macdougall 1
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Matahari 1
Voters: falcon45ca
Seanzie 1
Voters: Dennis
S~V~S 1
Voters: Epignosis
Tutuu 1
Voters: Kate
Zenon 1
Voters: Matahari
Unvote 1
Voters: Roxy

Dennis 9
Voters: DrWilgy, S~V~S, Jackofhearts2005, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Thunal33, Epignosis, Matahari, Roxy, RondoDimBuckle
Macdougall 1
Voters: Seanzie
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 2
Voters: Dubz, Michelle
RondoDimBuckle 1
Voters: falcon45ca
S~V~S 1
Voters: Macdougall

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:49 am Falcon skim done. Don't think Falcon has a team, but I don't know if this is snormal stownrange Sfalcon.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:21 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:49 am Falcon skim done. Don't think Falcon has a team, but I don't know if this is snormal stownrange Sfalcon.
Actually thought about this more. Falcon didn't seemed teamed D1 and then dropped off the face of the planet day 2 and beyond. Was Falcon recruited during this time?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:56 pm I have decided to make the wagons closer

[VOTE: Dubz] aubergine

Reading Wilgy's Iso I don't find much solving intent. He said he will do Isos but there's no proof he actually did it.
Also I thought the same, that the BTSC can't clear him because it's just a neighborhood

Agree with what Thunal said above.

I don't know if that puts Wilgy as JD or as a sin for me.
He called me silly for saying he's a sin. That's interesting in a way and gives him JD equity.
I believe I've been somewhat blatant about not solving this game.

I don't get it honestly. Too many variables. Too many things change. Plus the pace of the game left be behind early. The best I can do is trust the players that have left the game who seemed to understand it more than I who have flipped town.

Seanzie's BTSC I don't think could be any more clear cut in proving that they used it to find both Kate, Dennis, and my alignment. Also Seanzie I think was very specific in how they worded things and alignments. Removing me from the PoE was not a mistake when Seanzie went out of the way to iterate the percent chances of hitting sins in Dennis/Kate.

I know the BTSC existed. But why Wilgy from Vocaroo mafia and was town could make himself so clearly town and Wilfy in this game can't articulate few words?

You know town is in vey bad condition, not just Falcon, all three townies are, and all you do is sheeping and voting Dubz?

We chopped nook because he didn't care about the game and didn't care about being chopped, we lost Rondo who could clear someone and what is left is the possibility to read in mafia-esque way.

Please post your thoughts about everyone, you promised to be active once the game slows down

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Spoiler: show

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:22 am Ah, a 22 day game 1 and it's not champs...

Can either a 3p or a townie give me a tldr? Wolves stay quiet, I want no misinformation from you.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:32 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:24 pm @DrWilgy srsly curious. How can anyone on D 1 of *this* game have tmi?
Is this something to do specifically with THIS game? Because jokes on you if you think I've read the setup outside of the rules.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 7:45 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:25 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Rn this is my best guess.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:19 pm
While I agree. This is a TMI pocket attempt.
I looked at this post a lot and in addition to the possibilities of Wilgy being scum with TMI or it being a fake derp, Wilgy could also be 3p who didn't know that there was only one wolf in the game and thought wolves would have TMI.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 11:20 am
pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:54 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:49 am Wolfy 4th vote on Tutuu.

Have a nice day.
ah okay here, let me help you make this kind of post NAI for you

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine
Does Pyxxy legitimately think that voting me would suddenly turn a post that should be NAI to a post that should be NAI? How does your voting me ACTUALLY make a difference here?

I wasn't giving you anything AI in the first place.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 11:05 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:26 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:22 am Ah, a 22 day game 1 and it's not champs...

Can either a 3p or a townie give me a tldr? Wolves stay quiet, I want no misinformation from you.
Tutuu is sus, Dennis is stiff as a board, Epi seems towny, Dubz seems towny, Kate seems towny, Thunal seems towny
Thank you. Can you express the gist of Mac as well?
These quotes are here as examples of how Wilgy sort of has these disconnected thoughts and doesn't follow up on anything. So far his posts feel like trying to look busy rather than solving.
If this is busy work, then you don't know what busy work is my friend.

I'm just chillin till the thread slows down.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:58 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:56 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:00 am Slay the outed one!

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine
do you have any reads to share with the class?
Nope. I'm just sheeping people that sound correct to sheep.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:47 pm
Dubz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:46 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:58 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:56 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:00 am Slay the outed one!

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine
do you have any reads to share with the class?
Nope. I'm just sheeping people that sound correct to sheep.
Wouldn't that by definition mean you're reading the people you're sheeping
I suppose so, but I wouldn't be able to tell you why.

I'm sad Seanzie is gone, as they were who I sheeped last cycle and today.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:30 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:20 am This is for myself, a kind of reads list, but in the poll order

Dennis - outed scum

DrWilgy - low impact, maybe a sin, if not please play @DrWilgy

Dubz - busy IRL, relaxed tone, idk

Epignosis - i liked the analysis of the setup but that's not really AI.

falcon45ca - good tone, low impact, in the upper part of the null

jackofhearts2005 - time will tell, maybe town, not on the chopping block but he should show his towny soul if that’s his alignment

Macdougall - tinfoilable unfortunately. Not today.

Matahari - not very towny, not really scummy. I didn't notice agenda, so I will put her also above null.

Michelle -

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - suspicious

RondoDimBuckle - self confidemt, making a reactionary play, RTs, meh. Idk, hopefully town

Roxy - towny

S~V~S - looked like she is solving but i don't get the Poe except Nook, please explain @S~V~S

Thunal33 - my top town previous days, gives me paranoia for her fear of dying yday, but still town.
I'm not a sin silly, and I am playing. Just not in a way that's constructive at all.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:38 pm Hoenstly, if it helps to just clear me and remove me from PoE:
I was BTSC with Seanzie before they were killed. Seanzie was helping me get into the game while at the same time I shared all my info with them.

Between BTSC Seanzie's PoE went from including me here:
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:05 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:02 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:29 pm So who do people think John Doe is?
Nook, Thun, Jack, Wilgy, Falcon all deserve more scrutiny IMO. You might as well, but this is the first post I think I've seen of you, so I'm not actually qualified to say anything about you at this point.
If I had to order the list it would probably be

Nook
Falcon
Wilgy
Jack
Thun

In order of most likely baddie to least likely baddie.
To not after sharing data:
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:09 am
Dubz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:04 am Is there a sort of...thread consensus POE so I can prioritize ISOs? I've only really looked at flips and where I was mentioned (will get to that shortly), and I skimmed end of D2 last night.
Dennis is outed. We are looking for more baddies. My eyes are on Nook. I am wary of Falcon and Roxy. People like Jack and Epi deserve more scrutiny IMO, but idk if this is consensus, but I am town KING, so what I say, goes.
I share this as I don't think anyone would counter claim me on being in BTSC with Seanzie and Seanzie wouldn't remove me from the PoE without good reason. If less energy is wasted assessing me, I'd say this is a net positive for the town.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:02 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:06 pm @S~V~S yah I do. falcon, Epi and Jack. Tinfoil- Thunal.

New tinfoil is that Wigly had BTSC with Seanzie was going to outed and killed him in the middle of it. Except that Seanzie said he had outed 2 (Kate/Dennis) and cleared 1 (was it Wigly or was he saying that to get reactions idk bc he never outright said who he had cleared)

Also in one of my previous posts to you you said "I don't really see any questions except for inre: Dennis" but I was just responding to you and giving you my thoughts no questions you are correct.
Considering Seanzie had posted that I was removed from the PoE at the exact same time they were shot, this doesn't make sense.

If my strategy as W was to convince Seanzie I was town and to pull myself out of PoE, I would've waited to ensure I was pulled out before shooting him. There's no way that happened as the death and Seanzie's post were simultaneous.

So if my claim is false
1. Why did I wait to shoot him?
2. Was it luck that I was pulled from PoE upon doing so?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:21 pm Does someone care to iterate out the mechanical information we have before I start doing ISOs?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:29 pm Suppose it's ISO time if that's all the mech we have.

Seanzie's remaining 'let's get hereamajig' contains Falcon and Nook still. Everyone else is dead, so I guess I'll start there.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:40 am Someone talk to me about Matahari

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:41 am DaughterOfOmega 1
Voters: Epignosis
falcon45ca 1
Voters: Seanzie
Jackofhearts2005 1
Voters: Pyxxy
Porscha 10
Voters: Tutuu, Macdougall, RondoDimBuckle, Roxy, Zenon, Jackofhearts2005, Thunal33, Dennis, Kate, falcon45ca
Seanzie 1
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Tutuu 7
Voters: Matahari, Porscha, DrWilgy, DaughterOfOmega, Dubz, S~V~S, Michelle

Dennis 2
Voters: Zenon, RondoDimBuckle
Kate 9
Voters: Macdougall, Pyxxy, Jackofhearts2005, Michelle, Thunal33, Seanzie, S~V~S, Tutuu, DrWilgy
Macdougall 1
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Matahari 1
Voters: falcon45ca
Seanzie 1
Voters: Dennis
S~V~S 1
Voters: Epignosis
Tutuu 1
Voters: Kate
Zenon 1
Voters: Matahari
Unvote 1
Voters: Roxy

Dennis 9
Voters: DrWilgy, S~V~S, Jackofhearts2005, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Thunal33, Epignosis, Matahari, Roxy, RondoDimBuckle
Macdougall 1
Voters: Seanzie
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 2
Voters: Dubz, Michelle
RondoDimBuckle 1
Voters: falcon45ca
S~V~S 1
Voters: Macdougall

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:49 am Falcon skim done. Don't think Falcon has a team, but I don't know if this is snormal stownrange Sfalcon.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:21 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:49 am Falcon skim done. Don't think Falcon has a team, but I don't know if this is snormal stownrange Sfalcon.
Actually thought about this more. Falcon didn't seemed teamed D1 and then dropped off the face of the planet day 2 and beyond. Was Falcon recruited during this time?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:56 pm I have decided to make the wagons closer

[VOTE: Dubz] aubergine

Reading Wilgy's Iso I don't find much solving intent. He said he will do Isos but there's no proof he actually did it.
Also I thought the same, that the BTSC can't clear him because it's just a neighborhood

Agree with what Thunal said above.

I don't know if that puts Wilgy as JD or as a sin for me.
He called me silly for saying he's a sin. That's interesting in a way and gives him JD equity.

Reading the revealed mechs i see I was right about Dubz.
She is a sin and we have to find mafia today

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