The Syndicate

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:57 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:56 pm
Ash Lael wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:53 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:52 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:51 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:51 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:49 pm okay two of you can switch
How generos of you to give such permission, i bet you have fun
just trying to keep the day from ending in fire
In blood, are you the 3rd wolf?
Oh shit. You are town.
michelle: is tsp wolf?
ash: MICHELLE TOWN MICHELLE TOWN
More that she's already been lynched and isn't dropping the act.

Yes, i am a good actor

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:56 pm Shit. Sorry Michelle.

Stop howling at least now, you obtained your ML

Maybe Ash, Ted, Tony
Nice trio

Dont look at Ashs last post, is tricky, he knew i am villager

Ash is wolf

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:53 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:52 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:51 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:51 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:49 pm okay two of you can switch
How generos of you to give such permission, i bet you have fun
just trying to keep the day from ending in fire
In blood, are you the 3rd wolf?
Oh shit. You are town.

Yes i am

No answer from Tony, bad look man

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:52 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:51 pm
Poison Chan wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:50 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:49 pm okay two of you can switch
What is your PoE tsp?
depends on flip
TSP, do you ever bus your teammates?

Nah, he is too ashamed to make such action

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:51 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:51 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:49 pm okay two of you can switch
How generos of you to give such permission, i bet you have fun
just trying to keep the day from ending in fire

In blood, are you the 3rd wolf?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:49 pm okay two of you can switch

How generos of you to give such permission, i bet you have fun

Please lynch Ash next and Ted, thanks

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:48 pm I’m sorry mich, love you

No hard feelings Nanook

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:47 pm wait how did michelle get 8 votes what

I am loved

Congrats for lynching town again, this game ia golden, ngl

Soon to be free, i regret nothing, you will see me often playing like this, don't say i threw the game, i wanted to play different but you are just to tied to what you think is the reality and you don't really see it.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:43 pm it's a tie

How did you post between my accidental double posting?

Ok tied back

Ok tied back

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:41 pm Mich come back you ated me

Pardon?

112 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:41 pm I think we're yeeting town.

Yoi can be sure

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:38 pm Wait no my plan

It wasn't a good one anyway, if LC is scum you don't have enough villas to hung him

Ted is scum btw

Arete wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:39 pm @Michelle

who that's voting you is a villager and who that's voting you is a wolf?

Do you think i care at 4 am?

Back to my scum read
[VOTE: Ash] aubergine
Sayonara

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:36 pm gotta add two more to that list michelle

Doesn't matter, the most 'brave' are in the first part

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:36 pm [VOTE: Michelle ] aubergine

Finally a Michelle lynch.!

You poor thing

Michelle
5
24%
Voters: [mention]Ash Lael[/mention] , [mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] , [mention]tedxtr[/mention] [mention]Hally[/mention] , [mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention]

I didn't expect this, i know not everyone is wolf, but this wagon is showing how you are little invested in really finding scum and how much in your own image.

Hope you will be ashamed, the ones who are villagers

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:31 pm this always ends poorly

You know this?

Agian?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:19 pm How mad would people be if I jebaited you all by switching last second

Asking for no real reason

You too? Why to lynch a vilager?

I strongly believe Ash is wolf.

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:22 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:19 pm How mad would people be if I jebaited you all by switching last second

Asking for no real reason
I mean, I think they're both fine lynches.

I've kinda lost faith that all realistic wolf teams include LC but he's still a perfectly valid choice.

Michelle is independently wolfier though.

You are howling

[VOTE: LC] aubergine

VC now

Spoiler: show

I tied the wagons
[VOTE: dr. W] aubergine

I would better try to sleep again..

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:28 pm And you thinking that you can suss out an evil team based on a non player chop is pushing the bounds of credibility.

Who are you talking to?

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:05 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:28 pm
Ash Lael wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:41 pm Actually that vote count makes me think LC pretty much has to be a wolf. Regardless of Tony's alignment.

The TH wagon has Nanook and Hally, who are very likely just town. Dead town tutuu. And then Arete, Wilgy, and Tony.

Tony disaligns with both Arete and Wilgy. So if there's two wolves on the wagon it's exactly Arete/wilgy.

If there's not two wolves on the wagon, then either 2/3 of the wolves had to be offwagon, which seems unlikely - Michelle was hard on dunya so there's probably a disassociation there, and the other is 112 who is probably just town - or there had to be a wolf on the tony wagon. And LC is the only plausible option I can see.

So to sum up there are three possible worlds I can see.

In one, Arete has pulled off the mother of all pockets on Vulgard and switched from the high value town Tony lynch to killing a 2 poster late in the day for no discernible reason.

In one, LC is a wolf.

In one, our PoE is wrong and we have a deepwolf.

Someone poke holes in my logic.
Assumes Nanook and Hally are town. Fine. Could be wrong.

"Tony disaligns with both Arete and Wilgy. So if there's two wolves on the wagon it's exactly Arete/wilgy." Why can't Tony be bad with either of them again?

Your whole case here hinges on "If there's not two wolves on the wagon". This is the world that you've contrived the case around, as if it's a lock.

Also hinges on "2/3 of the wolves had to be offwagon, which seems unlikely" Why should that be unlikely? It's not an insane idea, it's as plausible as anything else.

Michelle disassociated with dunyapignosis? I know you're new here, but we invented a sneaky trick called "distancing" that wolves sometimes use. Note that Michelle is not pushing for Epi's death now, even after I made a case against him.

And the casual "112 is probably town", great!

You act like you have some powerful logic working here to incriminate me, but it's completely full of holes and relies on a grand alignment of off-handed possibilities.
I don't believe Tony is partnered with Wilgy because Wilgy asked Tony in thread if he should vote 112. I don't think that's a partnered interaction and I don't think it's faked for the purpose of theatre (disrespect read). Wilgy and Tony crossvoting also looks unpartnered, though that's more something that could be deliberate.

I don't believe Tony is partnered with Arete because I don't think Arete sits on her partner until very late in the day and then jumps off. I think she either stays on or doesn't get on in the first place.

2/3 of the wolves offwagon is unlikely not on general principle but because of the specific people who were offwagon. I don't believe michelle/epi/112 contains two wolves. 112 doesn't seem like a wolf on their own merits, and I don't believe wolf michelle cases her partner, drops a vote there, and nopes out for the day. Yeah, distancing is a thing, but Michelle didn't know how the end of day was going to evolve. Seems like a bad move to risk accidentally bussing there. Also the way Michelle just completely dropped her Dunya read like it never happened makes me think it was just an opportunistic case on a townie, not a distancing attempt. Also I hear from others that Michelle doesn't like to bus, though I can't confirm that from my own knowledge of her.

I can confirm, bussing is boring.

Otoh i can't bus Epi as villager. Or can I?

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:28 pm
Ash Lael wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:41 pm Actually that vote count makes me think LC pretty much has to be a wolf. Regardless of Tony's alignment.

The TH wagon has Nanook and Hally, who are very likely just town. Dead town tutuu. And then Arete, Wilgy, and Tony.

Tony disaligns with both Arete and Wilgy. So if there's two wolves on the wagon it's exactly Arete/wilgy.

If there's not two wolves on the wagon, then either 2/3 of the wolves had to be offwagon, which seems unlikely - Michelle was hard on dunya so there's probably a disassociation there, and the other is 112 who is probably just town - or there had to be a wolf on the tony wagon. And LC is the only plausible option I can see.

So to sum up there are three possible worlds I can see.

In one, Arete has pulled off the mother of all pockets on Vulgard and switched from the high value town Tony lynch to killing a 2 poster late in the day for no discernible reason.

In one, LC is a wolf.

In one, our PoE is wrong and we have a deepwolf.

Someone poke holes in my logic.
Assumes Nanook and Hally are town. Fine. Could be wrong.

"Tony disaligns with both Arete and Wilgy. So if there's two wolves on the wagon it's exactly Arete/wilgy." Why can't Tony be bad with either of them again?

Your whole case here hinges on "If there's not two wolves on the wagon". This is the world that you've contrived the case around, as if it's a lock.

Also hinges on "2/3 of the wolves had to be offwagon, which seems unlikely" Why should that be unlikely? It's not an insane idea, it's as plausible as anything else.

Michelle disassociated with dunyapignosis? I know you're new here, but we invented a sneaky trick called "distancing" that wolves sometimes use. Note that Michelle is not pushing for Epi's death now, even after I made a case against him.

And the casual "112 is probably town", great!

You act like you have some powerful logic working here to incriminate me, but it's completely full of holes and relies on a grand alignment of off-handed possibilities.

I woke up and i can't sleep

I read this distancing theory and i don't like it for a reason: logic doesn't fit with my game behaviour, is LCs imagination.
I didn't read the case on Epi, the thread is too big to catch-up
I barely played all day, yday was Sunday and I was rl busy and today i was working, again rl busy. So i had no time to check my read on Epi at all.

Ted and Hally: Michelle is wolf because she didn't push Ash
LC: Michelle is not pushing for Epi/Dunya.
Me:

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:43 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:42 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:40 pm michelle would gun for ash to die over herself if she had a red check, prettay sure
Is she not doing that?
no, she's appealing to us by AtEing instead of pushing for Ash

a villager asking to die instead of trying to guide town to vote on their red check is pretty inane

Whatever friendo

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:42 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:40 pm michelle would gun for ash to die over herself if she had a red check, prettay sure
Is she not doing that?

I said is a read.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:35 pm hey you have a little birdie!

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:30 pm Maybe Michelle has a red check on Ash.

Is a read, but i was so often right in my gut reads that i am confident.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:30 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:27 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:19 pm a michelle flip would help clear up stuff I think

also forces people to take a stance on them at EoD, she hasn't been talked about much beyond like 3 people.

also ~could be a wolf, not sure, could be wrong I guess, but in the moment feel like it is one
There is never Michelle flips wolf here, don't get drunk with water.

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:27 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:25 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:20 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:17 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:13 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:11 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:09 pm it felt like what kind of posts I'd make as a wolf if I really wanted to get pressure off me before going to sleep

which is valid because this is probably around Michelle's sleeping time / doing stuff before sleeping time
Don't judge me after yourself, I can't be like you
im not expecting you to be like me and post 100s of times. im simply saying the vibe you give off rn and for most of the game imo is that you’re kinda struggling and don’t really wanna be here
I am struggling to change my posting style, i said it too many times already.
If i wouldn't want to be here i would not be at all, this is a reasoning who shows nothing tbh.
why do you want to self vote? what will that accomplish? why not just push ash harder now while you’re alive?
Is 10:30 pm and i worked all day on pc, my eyes are tired
I can't physically.
im not saying right now. im saying like at any point really you could have pushed ash harder than you did. i feel like you barely did

What from i worked all day was not in english? Also you posting so much made for me impossible to catch up, so

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:27 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:24 pm I am usually not pushing my scum reads like you do.
I have always the 'what if he is villager' in the corner of my head and try to figure the best way.
this is disingenuous, you just made a "trust me on Ash if I flip"

and your posts to him were literally "you are a wolf caught for the wrong reasons"

Do whatever you like then after i flip. Villager.

Good night

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:19 pm a michelle flip would help clear up stuff I think

also forces people to take a stance on them at EoD, she hasn't been talked about much beyond like 3 people.

also ~could be a wolf, not sure, could be wrong I guess, but in the moment feel like it is one

There is never Michelle flips wolf here, don't get drunk with water.

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:18 pm but idk maybe my perception is wrong but like i have to vote to kill someone at the end of the day sooo

Be happy, keep the vote :y:

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:20 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:17 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:13 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:11 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:09 pm it felt like what kind of posts I'd make as a wolf if I really wanted to get pressure off me before going to sleep

which is valid because this is probably around Michelle's sleeping time / doing stuff before sleeping time
Don't judge me after yourself, I can't be like you
im not expecting you to be like me and post 100s of times. im simply saying the vibe you give off rn and for most of the game imo is that you’re kinda struggling and don’t really wanna be here
I am struggling to change my posting style, i said it too many times already.
If i wouldn't want to be here i would not be at all, this is a reasoning who shows nothing tbh.
why do you want to self vote? what will that accomplish? why not just push ash harder now while you’re alive?

Is 10:30 pm and i worked all day on pc, my eyes are tired
I can't physically.

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:17 pm idk it’s just my perception but like michelle being like “im self voting so you kill ash after i die” feels fake because she really hasnt tried hard at all to kill ash while shes been here and i feel like that’s what a villager would do

I am usually not pushing my scum reads like you do.
I have always the 'what if he is villager' in the corner of my head and try to figure the best way.
But of course you think you already know all about me from 2 games so you may proceed with your push and pretend I was scummy.
Whether i make myself understood or not by you i will go to sleep soon.

Cya Hally, i appreciate your effort in this game, but i don't appreciate you fool yourself.

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