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by Michelle
Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:25 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]

Carotenoid wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:00 pm Thanks @dunya & @juliets for hosting and getting me to play! It was a short, but a fun and intense experience! :p

@Dyslexicon @1612 @cobbler @tedxtr You guys were terrific! Subbing in this slot was like a piece of candy. Thanks for being cool partners! 1612 you did really great for your first forum game, I hope you'll be proud of this game even if you prefer to be town!

@M Plus 7 It was really fun playing with you, let's definitely try to play a whole game together at some point!

@Michelle I wanna play more in English with you to see how it goes!
Just ping me when you /in a game here or at MU but after the semis ^^
je croise les doigts pour toi Carotte!
by Michelle
Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:17 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 4]

M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:10 pm
Michelle wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:07 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:03 pm
Michelle wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:01 pm
Urist wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:09 am [VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
:phew:
i wanted so much for this game to finish so thanks.

Everything was off.
Hey, at least I found you even if it was too late, hehe.
:beer:
i found you too, as you noticed my tone changed.
Morale is: never trust Ted, lynch him when he doesn't play tbh
That was a nice moment. I hope we can find each other earlier next time!

I've never really gotten to play with Ted!
Ted is lately a good scum. If i would have more play time i would notice his lack of anything useful for village.
by Michelle
Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:12 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 4]

Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:21 am @Michelle I don't understand where your reads or your game view is coming from? You seem to suspect me as scum, but why? Because "I have no scum range" which is so absolutely not true.
I'd say is true though...
by Michelle
Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:07 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 4]

M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:03 pm
Michelle wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:01 pm
Urist wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:09 am [VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
:phew:
i wanted so much for this game to finish so thanks.

Everything was off.
Hey, at least I found you even if it was too late, hehe.
:beer:
i found you too, as you noticed my tone changed.
Morale is: never trust Ted, lynch him when he doesn't play tbh
by Michelle
Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:05 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]

[mention]Carotenoid[/mention] when you vanished i had a heart beat who said is bad to see you as villager.

Gg ^^
by Michelle
Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:02 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]

Lavender wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:41 pm yooooooooo gg everybody 😎

well played, @1612 @Carotenoid @cobbler @tedxtr @Dyslexicon. i guess my tunnel on mp7 clouded my judgement. i took @Urist's tinfoil theory too far lol 🤷‍♂️

sorry for misreading u, @Michelle 😖

sorry about misreading u as well, @M Plus 7. as you can probably tell, i'm used to having a "guilty until proven innocent" mindset with people. i think that mindset works better in shorter games. i think it made me a little manic this game. will definitely try to be more diplomatic next time ✌

i should have trusted my gut on 1612. if i hadn't been so sure mp7 was gf i would have seen that world more easily, i think 💩 💩 💩

it was an honor to play with u all. i had a lot of fun, lost a lot of sleep, and i'll definitely be back for more some time. thanks for a great game everybody 🆒😎🆒😎
Sorry for misreading you tbh ^^
by Michelle
Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:01 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 4]

Urist wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:09 am [VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
:phew:
i wanted so much for this game to finish so thanks.

Everything was off.
by Michelle
Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:57 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 4]

Dyslexicon wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:10 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:24 amDyslexicon - Dizzy is a magnificent scum player, nothing is outsude his scum range.
Michelle, this is an absurd statement. How did you get to this conclusion and what makes you qualified to make this statement? If I'm not mistaken, you've only experienced my scum game when I replaced into your scum team.
Like what would i have this courage
? Idk how come :haha:
by Michelle
Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:48 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 4]

Carotenoid wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:46 am Good night everyone! It was nice to actually engage with people instead of trying to go through endless posts :')
Bonne nuit Carotte, hope to see you in 10 hours too ;)
by Michelle
Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:46 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 4]

M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:29 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:16 am
M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:03 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:01 am
Spoiler: show
M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:54 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:51 am
M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:38 am

I’m not telling you to read all of them.

How is the progression bad? Explain to me exactly.
I made some posts and asked about this thing, i don't remember you answering

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 64#p637364

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 64#p636264
Thank you so much.

I thought I answered the first one? I don't believe I answered the second. Admittedly it's been a long game.

I said I was pushing you because you were complacent, that does not mean you have been inactive. It means... when I looked in your ISO, I thought you seemed generally okay with whatever the yeet was, there was a lack of evaluation of players, at least fmpov. That was my interpretation of the body of work of your ISO, but particularly of your D3 posts, when I started pushing you during D3.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "A question is, why did you put me at the bottom of the list as being inactive?", is that basically the same as what I addressed above? If not, let me know.

As for "In the next reads you mention my name like you excuse yourself for the read (coloured text). Can you tell me why?", it was a statement that my reads on you and cobbler were outdated because I had spent more time on the other players in recent memory as of the time of that post, so I was intending on going into your ISO thereafter (which I did do on D3).

I hope this helps, but let me know.
cyan text
I was never happy with any lynch this is a lie.

yellow text: you prepared the post for the villa flip of me to show innocent while you are not
I'm not lying.

What do you mean by the second thing?
Then you honestly think i was happy with any lynch? Can you read my Iso? It's short.

The second is the paranoid thought that scum always insert hidden excuses for suspecting villagers and come back after mislynch to those posts.
I do apologize, I think we've been talking past each other pretty badly, and it takes two, so I realize I could have stepped away and tried to better understand you throughout the game, not just now. And that's on me.

I promise you that I'll take another look at your ISO and try to come to a fresh determination, at least as much of one as I can.

Oh, re: the second thing, I see what you're saying now. That's an understandable interpretation. I'd say I prefer for everyone to know where my reads are at due to transparency's sake, so I was trying to clarify that my reads on you and cobbler were less confident than my others, if that makes sense.
I understand now better. Thanks for clarifying it.
I won't answer at the other one, i read it and shows a nice mindset and means an advice for me for future games.

What do you think about Dizxy asking me why i gave you TR early in the game because you could post all those posts as wolf too?

Now i need to read a lot, see you in 10 hours, more or less ^^
by Michelle
Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:37 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 4]

M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:32 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:18 am
M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:12 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:11 am
M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:03 am Michelle get out of this tunnel please.
Make me do it and i will.
Trust me, I would love to.
we have time. I will not vote. Go to sleep and we will continue after.
Tell me in how much time you will be here again pls.
Thank you.

When is a good time for you? I was thinking I'll try my best to be here no later than... 10.5 hours from now? Is that early enough?
this is perfect, is a good hour for me. Sleep well !
by Michelle
Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:36 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 4]

M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:24 am Addendum:

The reason that final post would make me feel like shit is that Dizzy and I have known each other for a decent while now, have never rolled town together in any game, and after all this time for me to have said everything I had to him and then make a post like that? I would feel like an asshole.
There is a possibility for you to not do some things as scum because you feel them dishonorable?

This is more rethorical because, alas, mafia is a lying game :noble:
by Michelle
Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:19 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 4]

Carotenoid wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:17 am @Michelle @M Plus 7 @Urist What's your read of speedchuck?
i have to read Speed and you after you subbed in. it will take some time
by Michelle
Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:18 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 4]

M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:12 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:11 am
M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:03 am Michelle get out of this tunnel please.
Make me do it and i will.
Trust me, I would love to.
we have time. I will not vote. Go to sleep and we will continue after.
Tell me in how much time you will be here again pls.
by Michelle
Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:16 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 4]

M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:03 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:01 am
Spoiler: show
M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:54 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:51 am
M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:38 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:37 am
M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:30 am Michelle if you have a specific question about my progression of you or there’s anything I can clear up I would be happy to, but if you want an answer for why any of my reads have been inconsistent I think the most obvious answer is it’s because I’m fucking town.
You are fucking town? I don't see it. And yes, i am tone reading you. Why is this a problem, is obvious i didn't read all your posts and i don't have time to read them and if you are wolfing is really useless to read them.

Your progreasion on me is bad, instead explaining it to me you change the topic explaining how much you posted. :shrug:
I’m not telling you to read all of them.

How is the progression bad? Explain to me exactly.
I made some posts and asked about this thing, i don't remember you answering

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 64#p637364

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 64#p636264
Thank you so much.

I thought I answered the first one? I don't believe I answered the second. Admittedly it's been a long game.

I said I was pushing you because you were complacent, that does not mean you have been inactive. It means... when I looked in your ISO, I thought you seemed generally okay with whatever the yeet was, there was a lack of evaluation of players, at least fmpov. That was my interpretation of the body of work of your ISO, but particularly of your D3 posts, when I started pushing you during D3.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "A question is, why did you put me at the bottom of the list as being inactive?", is that basically the same as what I addressed above? If not, let me know.

As for "In the next reads you mention my name like you excuse yourself for the read (coloured text). Can you tell me why?", it was a statement that my reads on you and cobbler were outdated because I had spent more time on the other players in recent memory as of the time of that post, so I was intending on going into your ISO thereafter (which I did do on D3).

I hope this helps, but let me know.
cyan text
I was never happy with any lynch this is a lie.

yellow text: you prepared the post for the villa flip of me to show innocent while you are not
I'm not lying.

What do you mean by the second thing?
Then you honestly think i was happy with any lynch? Can you read my Iso? It's short.

The second is the paranoid thought that scum always insert hidden excuses for suspecting villagers and come back after mislynch to those posts.
by Michelle
Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:11 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 4]

M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:03 am Michelle get out of this tunnel please.
Make me do it and i will.
by Michelle
Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:09 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 4]

M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:55 am I didn't ignore you on purpose! Christ.
M7 you made me read you lock villager in the other game. You didn't have much time to find me villager then but you were night killed and i had to show i am green in a tiresome fight with scum.
I was wrong this game until now about Alison and Lavender. If i am wrong about you, can you explain me what makes you villager? An 'eureka' moment/moments you think there exists that shows your colours fypov.
by Michelle
Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:01 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 4]

M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:54 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:51 am
M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:38 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:37 am
M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:30 am Michelle if you have a specific question about my progression of you or there’s anything I can clear up I would be happy to, but if you want an answer for why any of my reads have been inconsistent I think the most obvious answer is it’s because I’m fucking town.
You are fucking town? I don't see it. And yes, i am tone reading you. Why is this a problem, is obvious i didn't read all your posts and i don't have time to read them and if you are wolfing is really useless to read them.

Your progreasion on me is bad, instead explaining it to me you change the topic explaining how much you posted. :shrug:
I’m not telling you to read all of them.

How is the progression bad? Explain to me exactly.
I made some posts and asked about this thing, i don't remember you answering

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 64#p637364

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 64#p636264
Thank you so much.

I thought I answered the first one? I don't believe I answered the second. Admittedly it's been a long game.

I said I was pushing you because you were complacent, that does not mean you have been inactive. It means... when I looked in your ISO, I thought you seemed generally okay with whatever the yeet was, there was a lack of evaluation of players, at least fmpov. That was my interpretation of the body of work of your ISO, but particularly of your D3 posts, when I started pushing you during D3.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "A question is, why did you put me at the bottom of the list as being inactive?", is that basically the same as what I addressed above? If not, let me know.

As for "In the next reads you mention my name like you excuse yourself for the read (coloured text). Can you tell me why?", it was a statement that my reads on you and cobbler were outdated because I had spent more time on the other players in recent memory as of the time of that post, so I was intending on going into your ISO thereafter (which I did do on D3).

I hope this helps, but let me know.
cyan text
I was never happy with any lynch this is a lie.

yellow text: you prepared the post for the villa flip of me to show innocent while you are not
by Michelle
Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:55 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 4]

M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:48 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:47 am
M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:43 am Unless Michelle is just open wolfing right now, perhaps that's why no one seems to give a fuck if she gets yeeted? Otherwise I have no clue what is going on here.
open towning is unheard i guess.
Is going on i figured you are most probably wolfing.
Can you please talk to me more about why you think that? The tone read isn't sufficient.
you ignored me when i askes questions.

I wish your answers at Lavender's case on you, if you don't mind to quote them.
by Michelle
Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:51 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 4]

M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:38 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:37 am
M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:30 am Michelle if you have a specific question about my progression of you or there’s anything I can clear up I would be happy to, but if you want an answer for why any of my reads have been inconsistent I think the most obvious answer is it’s because I’m fucking town.
You are fucking town? I don't see it. And yes, i am tone reading you. Why is this a problem, is obvious i didn't read all your posts and i don't have time to read them and if you are wolfing is really useless to read them.

Your progreasion on me is bad, instead explaining it to me you change the topic explaining how much you posted. :shrug:
I’m not telling you to read all of them.

How is the progression bad? Explain to me exactly.
I made some posts and asked about this thing, i don't remember you answering

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 64#p637364

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 64#p636264
by Michelle
Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:47 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 4]

M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:43 am Unless Michelle is just open wolfing right now, perhaps that's why no one seems to give a fuck if she gets yeeted? Otherwise I have no clue what is going on here.
open towning is unheard i guess.
Is going on i figured you are most probably wolfing.
by Michelle
Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:45 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 4]

Urist wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:41 am @Michelle are you going to vote for MP7?
at this vote is my head now.
by Michelle
Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:38 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 4]

Carotenoid wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:34 am
M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:48 am Carote, can you talk to me more about your experience with Dizzy?
We were both town in Space Invader. I think that I mainly started to townread him when we picked up Alison's scumslip at the same time. Aside from that, we weren't really in the thread at the same time so since he had similar reads and that my main scumread had a bizarre read on him that wasn't w/w I felt comfortable not really interacting with him. We did interact during the sad EoD where he was horrifically pew pewed, I thought his frustration was super townie. He still got pew pewed. Argh these are bad memories :faint:
Michelle wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:56 am
Spoiler: show
Carotenoid wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:35 pm Alright I'm done catching up! Pfiouh, that was quite a read.

First impressions is that either we're in a world where it's just as "easy" as speedchuck - Michelle - X, either we're in a really scary world where Dyslexicon and M Plus 7 are wolves.

@Dyslexicon @M Plus 7 Do you still consider each other to be lock town?

Some thoughts about everyone:
* I've played with Alison and Dyslexicon in Space Invaders and I'm pretty glad I don't have to sort the former lol
I'm feeling pretty good about Dyslexicon, he's basically a copy-pasted version of town Dyslexicon in Space invaders. I've never seen his wolf game though, so I'm keeping a healthy bit of paranoia. Probably not voting here today.

* I also played 2 games with Michelle when we were both town, we found and vibed we each other pretty early both time (it was in another language though). In this game I didn't find her posting super townie so that's concerning. Need more interactions with her today.

* M Plus 7 is universally town read but I don't get why? She's been kinda all over the place and had good intuitions during EoD1 (the wagons being v/v/v) & EoD3 (Lavender flipping town) but didn't actually follow them so eh. I think she's the most likely deepwolf. Might vote here.

* 1612's reaction to the fake check felt townie and it was pretty consensus itt, I don't understand how he suddenly became a wagon during EoD3. iirc protocultures was the only one to really townread Lavender so I think he might have felt like his reads were a bit overlooked and it resulted in him putting himself in a corner (does that make sense?) Probably not voting here today.

* I think speedchuck's EoD3 has been really opportunistic and his wagon dissolving feels like a wolfy save. I want to take a closer look at their ISO today. Might vote here.

* I think Urist should never be voted out today so I'm choosing to not invest energy sorting this slot for the moment. Not voting here today.
Are you Carotte? :cloud9: Ask me anything tbh
Yes! :p Are you town Michelle?
Oui Catotte :nicenod:
by Michelle
Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:37 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 4]

M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:30 am Michelle if you have a specific question about my progression of you or there’s anything I can clear up I would be happy to, but if you want an answer for why any of my reads have been inconsistent I think the most obvious answer is it’s because I’m fucking town.
You are fucking town? I don't see it. And yes, i am tone reading you. Why is this a problem, is obvious i didn't read all your posts and i don't have time to read them and if you are wolfing is really useless to read them.

Your progreasion on me is bad, instead explaining it to me you change the topic explaining how much you posted. :shrug:
by Michelle
Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:26 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 4]

M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:00 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:58 am
M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:56 am Michelle, we should chat so I feel like we can stop talking past each other. Is there something that you still want me to address specifically?
i have to catch up, let's chat.

Why did you flip your read on me so many times?

Answer as short as you can please, i have no time to read wallies.
Because I’m genuinely unsure
come on.. :disappoint:
by Michelle
Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:24 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 4]

So my ideas for everyone is:

1612 - he had pretty pure tone at the Tutuu's fake red check

Carotenoid (cobbler, ted) - I liked Cobbler more than Ted iirc but i didn't catch up on Carot, hope she is Carotte and english will not change her playstyle :) (changes mine, i love french more but i know better to express my ideas in english because i am already playing from one year and half)

Dyslexicon - Dizzy is a magnificent scum player, nothing is outsude his scum range.

Michelle - lazy and villager

M Plus 7 - too sweet to be real, i remember her town game was more abrasive. She receives my vote tiday for now

Speedchuck (jeraldbooo) - my Iso on Jeraldo made me ask him some questions but i didn't receive an answer iirc. I have to read Speed though.

Urist - green checked, not today lynch. His probability to be town is second after mine (50% after 100%)
by Michelle
Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:58 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 4]

M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:56 am Michelle, we should chat so I feel like we can stop talking past each other. Is there something that you still want me to address specifically?
i have to catch up, let's chat.

Why did you flip your read on me so many times?

Answer as short as you can please, i have no time to read wallies.
by Michelle
Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:56 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Night 3]

Carotenoid wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:35 pm Alright I'm done catching up! Pfiouh, that was quite a read.

First impressions is that either we're in a world where it's just as "easy" as speedchuck - Michelle - X, either we're in a really scary world where Dyslexicon and M Plus 7 are wolves.

@Dyslexicon @M Plus 7 Do you still consider each other to be lock town?

Some thoughts about everyone:
* I've played with Alison and Dyslexicon in Space Invaders and I'm pretty glad I don't have to sort the former lol
I'm feeling pretty good about Dyslexicon, he's basically a copy-pasted version of town Dyslexicon in Space invaders. I've never seen his wolf game though, so I'm keeping a healthy bit of paranoia. Probably not voting here today.

* I also played 2 games with Michelle when we were both town, we found and vibed we each other pretty early both time (it was in another language though). In this game I didn't find her posting super townie so that's concerning. Need more interactions with her today.

* M Plus 7 is universally town read but I don't get why? She's been kinda all over the place and had good intuitions during EoD1 (the wagons being v/v/v) & EoD3 (Lavender flipping town) but didn't actually follow them so eh. I think she's the most likely deepwolf. Might vote here.

* 1612's reaction to the fake check felt townie and it was pretty consensus itt, I don't understand how he suddenly became a wagon during EoD3. iirc protocultures was the only one to really townread Lavender so I think he might have felt like his reads were a bit overlooked and it resulted in him putting himself in a corner (does that make sense?) Probably not voting here today.

* I think speedchuck's EoD3 has been really opportunistic and his wagon dissolving feels like a wolfy save. I want to take a closer look at their ISO today. Might vote here.

* I think Urist should never be voted out today so I'm choosing to not invest energy sorting this slot for the moment. Not voting here today.
Are you Carotte? :cloud9: Ask me anything tbh
by Michelle
Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:27 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: The Lion King [Night 3]

Alison wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:37 pm
Urist wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:45 am
Urist wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:34 am (M+7 was on both wagons, but joined Lav early so doesn't really count).
This should say "joined Lav late".

And yeah we could be making it more difficult than it actually is. If we take our tinfoil hats off for a second, we can double down on our d1 towncore, which was Carot, Dizzy, myself and MP7. That'd leave Michelle, 1612, and speedchuck. Which doesn't seem so crazy to me.
I don't know when you were in the D1 towncore. You were nearly executed and the only person who expressed strong trust in you was I think nanook. I think you are the Godfather and I really dislike your pushes this phase.
Alison i like how we finally found each other. If anything thay was a moment of the game who felt good :nicenod:

I am sorry rl was so not mafia friendly this game for me...
by Michelle
Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:25 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: The Lion King [Night 3]

Urist wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:55 pm
Alison wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:37 pm I don't know when you were in the D1 towncore. You were nearly executed and the only person who expressed strong trust in you was I think nanook. I think you are the Godfather and I really dislike your pushes this phase.
When I said "our" towncore I meant mine and Dizzy's.
You know that I am probably going to vote for Michelle tomorrow yeah? The window to banish 1612 has passed (for now), that's why I was so upset that it landed on Lavender.
when you say "our" that means what? :confused:
by Michelle
Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:22 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
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Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Night 3]

Wolves already won because you want to vote me and Alison doesn't see how good is Dizzy at wolfing. M7 flipped his reads all game and put me from null ti town and to scum without me doing much.
I really don't know who is the 3rd :shrug:

I don't expect to be believed.

Good game :pout:
by Michelle
Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:01 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
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Re: The Lion King [Night 3]

Dyslexicon wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:22 am What is that shade lol
bad answer Dizzy
Dyslexicon wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:24 am Michelle, if you want to argue me as scum you should probably show why that is the case. BuT wHy NoT DizYY is not going to work this time, I pray to god.
did you explain why am i scum for you when you posted me in a imagined scum team?
Dyslexicon wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:21 am
Michelle wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:09 am
Dyslexicon wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:40 am How is this game still hard? It's just 1612/Michelle/X?
why aren't you btw? I think who puts pression on inactives in this game are plain wrong, it is too easy of a 'read' tbh

I read 2 Isos of inactives and looked pretty pure, and i know i am villager.

What makes it not be Dizzy/M7+1?
Are you asking me why I'm not scum reading myself?
Strangely you don't answer at the idea of inactives being probably villagers.
You look not stressed at all and you are not suspected while you are making associative reads who are not real. At least you don't take all possibilities, you take the laziest idea smh.
by Michelle
Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:15 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Night 3]

Dizzy doesn't react? i wold explode in no time at that :suspish:
by Michelle
Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:13 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Night 3]

M7 is so hard to be suspected because she is so nice but her reads always changing are giving me a paranoia attack tbh
by Michelle
Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:11 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Night 3]

Dyslexicon wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:56 am @Carotenoid I know it's hard to sub into a game late. But if you're town here, a fresh look would be really good, so I'm excited for you to get into the game when you have the time.
wait Speed subbed for Jeraldo and Carotenoid for Ted :blush:

i got it all wrong [mention]speedchuck[/mention] sorry about that, i should not play in the work break smh
by Michelle
Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:09 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Night 3]

Dyslexicon wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:40 am How is this game still hard? It's just 1612/Michelle/X?
why aren't you btw? I think who puts pression on inactives in this game are plain wrong, it is too easy of a 'read' tbh

I read 2 Isos of inactives and looked pretty pure, and i know i am villager.

What makes it not be Dizzy/M7+1?
by Michelle
Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:03 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
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Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Night 3]

speedchuck wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:18 am
speedchuck wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:06 am
M Plus 7 wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:36 pm Michelle and speed are incredibly likely wolves now. The third one is the tough one.
This is garbo.

Picking up two of the easier targets left in the game and saying 'Yep, game is all but solved' when there isn't a single scumlynch to analyse for partner interactions is insane.

And yes, I know what I quoted there is not what you said. You can argue semantics. But this is a lazy pass at claiming a gamestate that isn't true. A gamestate that will cause complacency and guarantee that town loses.
Actually, I'm going to further elaborate on this. 1612, easily one of the worse players from my comparison, is not on this list. Why? Please tell me.
Cobbler-Cartenoid-whoever-else, a player that has now been replaced TWICE, is not on this list. (my experience finds that replacements are more often mafia, and yes I'm aware of the hypocrisy). Why is that?

Despite this suspect list consisting of nothing but complacent, 'I guess they're scum because no one else is' picks, we've had three straight days of banishments that went down the tubes. Why is that? Just bad luck?
Or, if I'm wrong, is there a specific reason to suspect me? (there might be one for Michelle, but I haven't read it yet)

I will read Michelle today.
For a reason to SR yoyr slot:
not for you but for Ted and is just because he promised to play and didn't. Though it's not a wolf read and i am waiting for you to make an oppinion.

About Lavender i was thinking he is openwolfing, my short Iso will tell you reasons. I know i was wrong...

yesterday was Sunday i was busy, now i am still working. :shrug
by Michelle
Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:23 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
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Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Night 3]

M Plus 7 wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:33 pm
Alison wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:23 pm If Lavender was town, I'd expect mafia to be pretty comfy during the EOD. So I think this looks good for 1612 actually - he doesn't even have to post during EOD, he could easily have rested on his laurels, come in the next day and collected his towncred for being right about Lavender the next day. The frantic posting from him doesn't look like mafia watching a town get hammered before their eyes. It could be self-pres, but even so, the frustration when it became clear we were going to execute Lavender looks good.

Players who this implicates: speed, ted, Urist. All of them had a laidback attitude throughout the previous day, although replacements might have affected this (it really was a bad time to have replacements, honestly).
This is probably true, and it almost certainly means Michelle is wolf here from a gamestate perspective, right?
I wish to understand your gamestate perspective to see why are you wrong about me.
by Michelle
Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:22 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
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Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Night 3]

M Plus 7 wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:33 am What answer do you want, there's no question?

I'm not pushing you for not being here?
an oppinion on Ted would be nice.

Why are you pushing me then?
by Michelle
Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:30 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
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Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Night 3]

Michelle wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:10 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:44 pm MP7 N3 post-flip vibes reads

Confirmed town
Alison

Pseudo-confirmed town
Urist

Strong town
Dyslexicon

Upper POE
1612
cobbler


Lower POE
jeraldo/speed
Michelle


I need to sort out which of the bottom four is town, potentially more if Urist and/or Dizzy are actually wolfing, but that's for when I have a clearer head. I'll be back whenever. Godspeed to everyone in the interim. We still can win this, I believe in us!
I know Ted was busy being in a trip, though his lack of inputs is nagl.
Lynching me looses the game 100% btw
it's interesting i didn't receive an answer at this
by Michelle
Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:28 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Night 3]

M Plus 7 wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:36 pm Michelle and speed are incredibly likely wolves now. The third one is the tough one.
can you stop pushing for me just because i don't have so much time? You really don't evaluate at all my activity isn't it?

I have to work today, i will read as much as i can and post my ideas

You have a wide pool of suspects, who is your lock except Alison?
by Michelle
Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:10 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Night 3]

M Plus 7 wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:44 pm MP7 N3 post-flip vibes reads

Confirmed town
Alison

Pseudo-confirmed town
Urist

Strong town
Dyslexicon

Upper POE
1612
cobbler


Lower POE
jeraldo/speed
Michelle


I need to sort out which of the bottom four is town, potentially more if Urist and/or Dizzy are actually wolfing, but that's for when I have a clearer head. I'll be back whenever. Godspeed to everyone in the interim. We still can win this, I believe in us!
I know Ted was busy being in a trip, though his lack of inputs is nagl.
Lynching me looses the game 100% btw
by Michelle
Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:05 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Night 3]

M Plus 7 wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:39 pm Regardless, @Michelle certainly needs to answer for her complacency. I need to be satisfied.
i am not complacent, it was weekend and I was busy.
I am sorry i was wrong about Lavander, i see suspecting for power wolves is not always the answer.
by Michelle
Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:40 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
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Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 3]

Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:35 pm
Michelle wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:32 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:49 pm Not to like jump ships here, but I looked back over votes D1. Alison voted Michelle first thing. Tutu voted Michelle later/mid day. But the wagon never really gained traction. So we know both Tutu and Alison is town, so if Michelle is town, is it strange that it didn't gain traction? @Alison What do you think?
why do you think so?
I was just considering you, prompted by what 1612 said, and I remembered you had a wagon D1 and that it never took off. So when that wagon was Alison and Tutu, who are now confirmed town, then I argued to myself, why did not scum jump on that wagon if Michelle is town. However, I already talked myself off of it pretty much, since there were other wagons on town too, like Alison, Nanook and Proto, so scum could've just chose to be on those instead. Hope that makes sense.
I guess so.. honestly is wifom-y to speculate this. And dissapointing to see all day 1 wagons were all villa
by Michelle
Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:36 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
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Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 3]

M Plus 7 wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:31 pm [VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
:shrug: i am too tired at this hour for this.
by Michelle
Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:32 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 3]

Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:49 pm Not to like jump ships here, but I looked back over votes D1. Alison voted Michelle first thing. Tutu voted Michelle later/mid day. But the wagon never really gained traction. So we know both Tutu and Alison is town, so if Michelle is town, is it strange that it didn't gain traction? @Alison What do you think?
why do you think so?
by Michelle
Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:50 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 3]

Eod is at 2 am. I am not sure i will be present but if i wake up overnight i will be here. Nighty !
by Michelle
Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:44 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 3]

M Plus 7 wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:42 pm
Michelle wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:41 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:37 pm Hello, Michelle! We should chat.
until i fell asleep
Oh right, that's probably why we haven't gotten a chance to do that yet. *kicks time zones*

Is there anything you want my opinion on specifically?
Lavender.

He scum read me oportunistic fmpov. What do you think?
Should i keep my vote?
by Michelle
Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:41 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 3]

M Plus 7 wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:37 pm Hello, Michelle! We should chat.
until i fell asleep
by Michelle
Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:38 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: The Lion King [MAFIA WIN]
Replies: 2867
Views: 50968

Re: The Lion King [Day 3]

Alison wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:33 pm I don't understand how anyone can be confident enough about the current gamestate to consider their scumreads "outed wolves"
i am not confident at all :pout:

But i have no better idea

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