The Syndicate

_ExLight wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:57 am third time is the charm ask again

Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:54 am Brad/Kate EoD1 (and Brad/Wilgy earlier into the day phase)

Tell me what's your take about Roxy.

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Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:49 am If this is the second town game in a row where I had a 2/2 early and then kept letting myself get talked out of it I'll cry.

You had Brad and who else?

Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:49 am If this is the second town game in a row where I had a 2/2 early and then kept letting myself get talked out of it I'll cry.

You had Brad and who else?

Wiml wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:26 am I guess you could argue that this game makes more sense if Michelle is a wolf.

But I think she's towny and I'm not really ready to consider that atm.

Why am I towny?

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Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:50 am Pa - everyone can clear her early but me. I waiting on a couple of responses rn no idea.

Wilgy - has not posted that i have seen nor remember no idea

Epi - read him as bad so in all likely hood he is town but srsly no idea

falcon - is falc'ing it up too soon to say for sure maybe town

JJJ - seems to be trying too hard, not sure what to make of it in older games when you was all gusto and bluster you was bad it has been a long while so I will not use old time play against you. I want to see you have fun playing bc it has been so long since we have played< 3 reserving judgement for now.

Kate - very early game half joking half serious seems normal for Kate. For Town Kate at least for now I am not getting the same weird vibes like last game when you were town but you read as bad for me.

Limey - I think we have one game we have played together I I have hosted you but really have not a clue how to read you this game is different from Sesame Street and from CyberPunk. So I am left twisting and have no idea.

Michelle - usually an easy read for me bc her town shines bright from a vibe/tone this game I think town

Quin - No posts that I seen nor remember I have no idea

Wiml - also another try harder on the site. I hope I remembered to welcome you. I will not suss you nor vote you D 1. Bc you are new to me and I want you to feel welcomed. I am unsure but I think with a couple of days with your tone you will show yourself one way or the other. No idea as of now.

I do not what you expect @falcon45ca as it is so early in D 1 and I need almost the full first 48 to form my own proper reads.

What about you?

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:53 am
Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:44 am I don't think that a potential wolf-Lime Coke just gives up under pressure if one of his initial strong pushers (JJJ) is actually a wolf bussing him.
so you think Limey has just given up?

I cannot guage them so your input would be so farout.

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:40 am
Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:13 am
Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:53 am
Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:44 am I don't think that a potential wolf-Lime Coke just gives up under pressure if one of his initial strong pushers (JJJ) is actually a wolf bussing him.
so you think Limey has just given up?

I cannot guage them so your input would be so farout.
Yeah, he's somebody who doesn't enjoy wolfing and tends to have serious motivation issues as a wolf. I think he got scumcased by two very vocal villagers who he respects (at least one of them, me, having a historically accurate read on him with something like 20 games played together) and felt demoralised over it and / or that he couldn't recover from the situation and / or that his team wasn't in a winnable position and so just stopped posting full stop.

The only time he's posted since he initially left the thread after getting scumread has been once to post that tweet / copypasta earlier. Since he initially left, he hasn't put any attempt into solving people, answering questions asked to him, addressing the wagon on him or just playing the game: he just posted one off-topic meme in a way that looks more like he's lolcatting than anything (not really sure if that term is used on this site but lolcatting is when an outed mafia member posts blatantly off topic things to avoid spewing the identity of their partners and is generally an admission of guilt).

This is very uncharacteristic of his town play but not something I'd consider unexpected from his wolf play. He's generally very strong, active and obvious (to me at least) villager who I have a lot of respect for so I'm having a lot of difficulty reconciling that with his behaviour this game after getting cased and I think the reasons he was cased in the first place are still solid as well.
wow thanks so much for this. I am afraid it will no doubt impact my vibe of them as I really have none on them.

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:43 am I am caught up and will be around today until early afternoon and will probs have to place my vote then <3

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:14 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:11 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:14 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:06 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:05 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:00 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:55 am Well that's unfortunate.
What do you think of the reasons I gave for town reading falcon?
Farty.
I laughed.

Why do you read me as town if my town read on your suspect is farty?
I actually used that because you used it to describe my post and I though it was funny.

I just looked at it.

I think my thing was seeing him vote you and Michelle, mainly Michelle, and thinking it was bad.

Your townread on him I can maybe see from your POV with how he was reading you specifically.
Though I think the "Voting him until he creates a towncore" kind of just feels like a fake thing to use just to set a bar however high he wants and not give credit.

I'm back and forth on the read itself I'll have to see him a second go around.

What're your thoughts on D1 now?

This might be the last post that actually had any content that we could call solving.
falcon thank you bc this really is the only thing I can point to and say maybe falc is right coupled with Wiml read of them makes me think you and others are indeed right about them.

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 5:25 pm Wow. Weird nk is weird.

I cannot read Quin so i will iso tonight along with a couple of others I had in mind.

I have Ariya so just a pop in.

Also thanks for the d 1 elim wiml. <3

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 11:14 am My three would be Quin, Wigly, Epi.

I am sorry that others are putting Kate into POE I can even understand it but.....I am a real life friend of hers and when I say she has a lot going on personally, she has A LOT going on. I do not expect people to take my word and I do realize this is totes unlike Kate but Kate would never disappear in a game like she has here if she was bad. She is a team player. See Felt mafia where SVS, Kate and I were all bad she still would post and keep her town self alive. She has not done that here and that gives me pause.

Quin I felt was almost the defensive line for Limey. When it was going down in real time when he posted Ick in response to Epi's vote it made me feel ick about him. I tried very hard not to rush to judgement on him as last time I was wrong and we were both town. He feels a bit cornered in his responses today and that is indeed ick.

Epi bc I am never absolutely sure bc he's Epi ffs. I could just as easily put JJJ here as well so maybe if we get to day 3 I will be seriously looking either of them over in a new light.

Wigly is giving me the strange vibes but not bc he is sick but bc he is posting and acting all solvy like he did in a recent game and wolfed the f out of that game to *almost* bring the win home for them. I was absolutely gobsmacked when he was shown to be a baddie. And still am bowing to Daisy for that win for the town.

this is where my mind is.

I read Roxy's Iso until the last post I quoted.

Her first reads list is her first solving post in the game, if you read it is non commital and don't have any read she can't back track from it.
That's not a crime per se.
However, when she was caught up she still didn't have a direction to go as a personal suspicion and Wiml and Falcon basically proved Brad guilty without a possibility to defend him in a wolf Roxy world from TMI perspective so even if she dislikes to bus, voting Brad looked like the only option.

Her read on Kate was based on something not really serious - the pie read, while she disliked Wiml's penchant for using meta, is a meta read with an element only her knows about Kate.

The comment of a weird NK can come from a wolf who made it. It can be NAI but also can show an agenda to direct the discussion towards someone.

Her Poe of Quin, Wilgy and Epi shows towards the lowest posters, except Kate who was in her town reads. Quin and Epi flipped town and putting low posters in the Poe shows that she didn't want to argue with the higher posters.
Town can do it because they have no fear, a wolf is not usually doing it because a towny more active than the wolf will always look townier and the wolf is losing a direct confrontation.

I have a suspicion on Wilgy as well, but this is what I found in Roxy's Iso until now.

After rereading Brad's Iso I am currently thinking the slots most suspicious are the one who don't appear in that Iso and these are Wilgy and Roxy.

Anyone else mentioned flipped town, I am town, Kate/Ex is solving with a good thinking process imo, at a second thought the interaction with Wiml is less distancing and more to induce spew paranoia.

I have no idea who should go first. Not yet.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:14 pm I'd say where I went off script in learning Tutuu's process would be during my EoD tomfoolery, but that's what you get when im allowed to do goofy shit as either alignment.

What you expected to happen?

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:08 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:05 pm Thanks DrW!

Ex, did you link me the games I asked for? Sorry if you did and I didn't notice. I would like to check something in the morning.

@Wiml please link me please your last 3 scum games and town games
I've been retired for 2 years and this is my 3rd/4th game back from retirement depending on how you define a game.

You want me to link all those recent ones?

Link me pls what's not MU game or if you played with an outed alt and I can't see it when I search for your DB there.

_ExLight wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:07 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:05 pm Thanks DrW!

Ex, did you link me the games I asked for? Sorry if you did and I didn't notice. I would like to check something in the morning.

@Wiml please link me please your last 3 scum games and town games
I missed the request, sorry
What type of games you want?

The most recent games 2 or 3 of each alignment

Thanks DrW!

Ex, did you link me the games I asked for? Sorry if you did and I didn't notice. I would like to check something in the morning.

@Wiml please link me please your last 3 scum games and town games

It's midnight for me, I can't keep my eyes open, I will try to reread as much as possible in the morning.

_ExLight wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:43 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:41 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:17 pm Thinking about this still.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:54 pm Last wolf just has to be in the mid pol when LC was 3/3 with Abigail right?
```
Abigail
Voters: Epignosis, Michelle, Kate
```
Maybe Michelle 3rd if not Kate?

Like the wolf has to be here still yes? I've seen nothing to make me think otherwise. If there was a bus by Wiml, do I just accept my loss to it?

Further Falc/JJJ/Abigail are all NKs that come out of Kate/Ex.

Blah, idk if I'm to trust my gut here.
Brad couldn’t be saved, never, with that random pop in the thread and doing nothing.
I would let my vote on him if I knew he was a wolf.
Instead hoping for a miracle, bussing would be the best course to gain town credit.
Also I wouldn't kill Falcon N1, I would always kill Jay.
Jay is a real god of mafia. He can't be kept alive except mafia hope he can be mischopped somehow. I couldn’t push Jay so I would N1ed him.
How late/early would you bus them as wolf?

Hard to tell. It depends on scum chat activity and that's only something to speculate.
An MU player said once that when he feels his scum game is weak asks his partner/s to bus.
The fact Brad would be burnt by a new wolf range like Wiml (iirc) said could mean there was a bussing plan from start or from a moment onward.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:17 pm Thinking about this still.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:54 pm Last wolf just has to be in the mid pol when LC was 3/3 with Abigail right?
```
Abigail
Voters: Epignosis, Michelle, Kate
```
Maybe Michelle 3rd if not Kate?

Like the wolf has to be here still yes? I've seen nothing to make me think otherwise. If there was a bus by Wiml, do I just accept my loss to it?

Further Falc/JJJ/Abigail are all NKs that come out of Kate/Ex.

Blah, idk if I'm to trust my gut here.

Brad couldn’t be saved, never, with that random pop in the thread and doing nothing.
I would let my vote on him if I knew he was a wolf.
Instead hoping for a miracle, bussing would be the best course to gain town credit.
Also I wouldn't kill Falcon N1, I would always kill Jay.
Jay is a real god of mafia. He can't be kept alive except mafia hope he can be mischopped somehow. I couldn’t push Jay so I would N1ed him.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:20 pm If there's two posts where I'm like, 'this is w kate' it's these two.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:59 pm Let me guess, without reading, princess Abigail has used ATE to get yall to move off her?

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:40 pm So it must be Quin, diet Pepsi and poor poor Dr wolfy.

*solved*
But Kate's last two posts really get me.

The thing is, a wolf is rarely giving a full solve. But after she said she joked iirc.
Idk

I will look at the games in the morning, thanks for the links

_ExLight wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:06 pm I'm going to the gym rn so I'll be busy for a couple hours.

I'd like to ask everyone for their rainbow lists and comments if possible. I'll try to join in too tonight still.

For someone who said they don't know mafia lingo talking about rainbow reads makes me question the fact you are not familiar with usual forum mafia expressions.

Please link me a couple of scum games you have (recent games if possible)

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:03 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:00 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:56 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:45 pm More than 2 flipped villagers had Wiml as town.
I said yday I can lose to Wiml but I don't agree to lose to Wilgy and since then Wilgy started to analyze posts and votes.
Maybe is a coincidence, maybe not but doesn't give me confidence
Ah, my bad. Should've I remained slanky upon the game shifting so much?
No, you should care before of that
I did care. I went through a lul in gameplay because I wanted to focus on chopping the unknown members of PoE. Don't discount my discussions and additions early game while I was pursuing a passive gameplan until said passive gameplan doesn't work anymore.

If anything it should be non alignment indicative, and I don't know why you'd say it's suspicious. Both T Wilgy AND W Wilgy benefit from playing the game more when they did.

Please link me a town game where you were so active solving

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:56 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:45 pm More than 2 flipped villagers had Wiml as town.
I said yday I can lose to Wiml but I don't agree to lose to Wilgy and since then Wilgy started to analyze posts and votes.
Maybe is a coincidence, maybe not but doesn't give me confidence
Ah, my bad. Should've I remained slanky upon the game shifting so much?

No, you should care before of that

_ExLight wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:50 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:46 pm
_ExLight wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:42 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:35 pm If Ex is town and miselimned today then I think I always die in the Wilgy/Roxy/me F3 situation since those two were calling each other town cleared.

So the stakes are really high with this.
You literally die in any final three because all the remaining players threw shade at you at some point and would prolly push for your lynch probably
Did you read all the game?
Was my push a shade?
Not sure if we are disagreeing on the use of the word shade here or what.

You did start D3 swinging at him having a mild discussion with him and even voting him, no?
So it did feel like you would be willing to lynch him. In fact, my theory as to why you were not the night kill relies heavily on that assumption, if I'm wrong about your read on Wiml I'd like to hear it more.

Wiml is out of question for me now. Since Epi changed the read as well and he flipped villager (so he did it in good faith) and since Wiml is unnecessarily hyper posting trying to solve using various methods, it would be asinine to keep my scum read who was in fact a tinfoil.

_ExLight wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:42 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:35 pm If Ex is town and miselimned today then I think I always die in the Wilgy/Roxy/me F3 situation since those two were calling each other town cleared.

So the stakes are really high with this.
You literally die in any final three because all the remaining players threw shade at you at some point and would prolly push for your lynch probably

Did you read all the game?
Was my push a shade?

More than 2 flipped villagers had Wiml as town.
I said yday I can lose to Wiml but I don't agree to lose to Wilgy and since then Wilgy started to analyze posts and votes.
Maybe is a coincidence, maybe not but doesn't give me confidence

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:52 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:04 am
Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:05 am
Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:04 am The kill was mildly a good look for Wilgy and nothing more.

I very rarely clear based on NKA. I can say that somebody is spewed town by something without having them as a clear.
With additional context, I no longer believe that Wilgy doesn't make that kill anyway.
Ok, I was really curious about your answer because my take was the opposite.
Wilgy made an almost lock town read for Abigail, so if wolf Wilgy could never chop her/ insert her into the Poe, so I thought that if Wilgy is a wolf killing her makes the most sense.

I am sorry I am having trouble with the wording of this post. Can you help an old woman out and try and rephrase this for me?

Well, I don't think you are so old, but unfortunately I am not even Esl so I will try but I can't promise a succes..

When a wolf has a strong town read for someone they usually kill that slot overnight because they can't backtrack on the read and push that slot.
I think Wilgy if wolf could kill Abigail.
I think Ex if wolf could kill her as well.
I would keep her alive as my first push in the game.
Idk much about you and Wiml, I have to reread things

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:50 am
Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 4:45 am
_ExLight wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 10:11 pmI am friends with Abgail and I'm aware that she will often be willing to trust me. Not only that but I'm pretty sure she said loud and clear that she said in-thread that she would defend me this game? We literally just came out of a game where I tried to help her win as arsonist. It's not fallacies, we got each other's back and I'm 100% sure she wouldn't hesitate to trust me when I say I'm Town.
I'll admit that with this context I think Ex killing Abigail is a lot less likely.

So a WEx Light would never kill PA?

At contrary, I'd say.

But you had for Kate a TR. Do you still keep it?

I was busy all day, I am catching up

_ExLight wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:26 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 12:13 am Good morning!

Waking up when everyone goes to bed...

Where is @Roxy ?
Hiiii @Michelle
I asked in a post earlier on for non-meta reasons to townread Roxy and Wilgy, could you mention a few?

My town read for Roxy comes from her Eod where she hammered Quin. She scolded me and Jay for not voting and hammered.
From my PoV a wolf wouldn't take this path, or if she would hammer she wouldn't ask us why we didn't vote in that way.
It felt extremely villagery and also I think her defence for your slot comes from villagery perspective because your slot was LHF all game due to low activity.

_ExLight wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:48 am sounds a bit weird to attempt pocketing the person they'd likely push for in -Lo or today

Why?

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:05 am
Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 3:04 am The kill was mildly a good look for Wilgy and nothing more.

I very rarely clear based on NKA. I can say that somebody is spewed town by something without having them as a clear.
With additional context, I no longer believe that Wilgy doesn't make that kill anyway.

Ok, I was really curious about your answer because my take was the opposite.
Wilgy made an almost lock town read for Abigail, so if wolf Wilgy could never chop her/ insert her into the Poe, so I thought that if Wilgy is a wolf killing her makes the most sense.

I don't know if I can trust Wiml clearing Wilgy because of the NK. I would like to hear it again why explained for 5 yo @Wiml

Also going to work, coming back here asap

Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 6:20 pm In addition to the above, I was expecting others to find Epi's lack of self pres towny and potentially move onto a counterwagon.

I wanted that counterwagon to be Wilgy, not Abigail (or me).

It's hard to see the poll on phone and when I noticed you go on the cw and tied the wagons aftwer all day you had so many arguments against Epi I went with my last suspicion on him and I am sorry I didn't keep my idea about Epi not w/w with Brad who was correct.

I could not vote but ties are horrible.

_ExLight wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 5:24 pm also
making an avatar for this forum
hype

Michelle did you play any games hosted by osie last year?

I don't remember. I would certainly remember if he would play, and I remember games from 2 and 3 years ago, but after the war nearby started life became harder here and I play less and less and my focus on games dropped a lot.

Good morning!

Waking up when everyone goes to bed...

Where is @Roxy ?

I voted Epi as well

Sorry if wrong sir

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:56 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:55 pm I didn't get it either, Wiml.. You avoided me to not generate toxicity iirc, but my suspicion shouldn't go in that direction from my Pov
Unconvinced

Of what?

I didn't get it either, Wiml.. You avoided me to not generate toxicity iirc, but my suspicion shouldn't go in that direction from my Pov

I think Jay should be the N1 kill. Falcon dying before means the wolf wanted to obtain paranoia from villagers, but that didn't happen so Jay had to die N2.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:12 pm I'm taking a poo. Someone tell me who the wolf is and if it's not in Epi/Ex as to why I'm wrong on my other reads.

English is really weird for someone who thinks and speaks in a latin language.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:07 pm I think the problem I have most with not being able to find Epi if T is that I just kinda disagree with W Abigail at this point. Who's the W if not Epi and why does Epi's WR clash with my own like so?

Abigail if wolf avoids to show agenda and that makes Wiml town read her. But Jay TR her pretty strong D2 and killing him doesn't make much sense.

I tend to vote Epi as well.

His case on Wiml was based on the implied TMI for a town read who shouldn't come from today's posts. I could see Epi's posts as not AI but I can't say for sure what Wiml could see there if he is town. A difference in play between us is obvious so we can for sure look at the same thing and have different takes.

My case was very different and implied the resons for bussing and the suspicion Wiml is powerwolfing.

But not the case he posted on Wiml is my problem here, nor the fact that is not good to solve by Poe.

I don't like how and why he unvoted.
Wiml posted a non bussing meta strategy. A skilled wolf will always know where his position in the game is and how to make a defence. And that post was a defence, including self meta and game strategy.

I don't consider self meta a clearing proof.

However, if Epi is a wolf considered that Wiml was tonwing up and unvoted.

This is all from memory because I didn't reread what happened to put quotes, but it's in Epi's posts of today.

Also I like Wilgy's posts.

_ExLight wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:53 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:18 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:26 pm
_ExLight wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:04 am Hiiii
gonna be a bit busy today cuz my college classes are starting again today but I'd appreciate if I was given a bit more time to catch up with what's happening so far
no idea what the setup is, but I'm town vanilla

skimmed thread very quickly and from my understanding I'm in the PoE due to inactivity
seeing a lot of familiar faces here

Michelle you seem super familiar but I can't remember which game I played with you in the past
Where we played and what other username you have?
Can you answer me @_ExLight ?
if I knew where we played I wouldn't be asking you lol

I go by ExLight and Ex everywhere

I don't remember to play with any Ex player, what's your home site?
It's probably a confusion, Michelle is a common name.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:26 pm
_ExLight wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:04 am Hiiii
gonna be a bit busy today cuz my college classes are starting again today but I'd appreciate if I was given a bit more time to catch up with what's happening so far
no idea what the setup is, but I'm town vanilla

skimmed thread very quickly and from my understanding I'm in the PoE due to inactivity
seeing a lot of familiar faces here

Michelle you seem super familiar but I can't remember which game I played with you in the past
Where we played and what other username you have?

Can you answer me @_ExLight ?

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:37 pm Like I think Roxy genuinely believed that JJJ looked bad for not hammering.

At which point why N2 him over me?

Shrug.

Did Roxy play a lot with you?

I don't understand the bolded.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:24 pm I spent 500$ on my hair and love it but none of my friends will compliment me

Rawrrr

You look gorgeous!

_ExLight wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 11:04 am Hiiii
gonna be a bit busy today cuz my college classes are starting again today but I'd appreciate if I was given a bit more time to catch up with what's happening so far
no idea what the setup is, but I'm town vanilla

skimmed thread very quickly and from my understanding I'm in the PoE due to inactivity
seeing a lot of familiar faces here

Michelle you seem super familiar but I can't remember which game I played with you in the past

Where we played and what other username you have?

Wiml I will bbl

Welcome to the game Exlight!

I would lose to wolf Wiml and I am ok with that.

I don't like Wilgy's lack of solve. I wouldn't want to lose to that

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:51 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:49 am
Wiml wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:42 am I wanted to double check I hadn't mistakenly hammered without checking with Michelle because of the case and everything surrounding it.

But no, I made my intent to hammer pretty clear and got approval from her to do so.

This is obviously before I point out that other players like JJJ were pushing for the hammer at least as vocally as me if not moreso and every player had checked in at least once while we were discussing hammers.

And the case has a long list of other logical flaws that I won't get into for time reasons but shrug I think atp I don't need to address this in any more detail.
My bad, that was not a hammer approval, it was rather me giving up in front of your stubbornness to brush off anything I said
It's completely fine but at least now I hope you can see why I went ahead with it lol.

No, I don't, but please let's not divert the discussion into that. What I wanted to say and what you think I said will not solve the game.

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:27 am Does wolf-Wilgy ever N1 Falcon?

I guess it's kind of understandable if Wilgy is expected to have a godread on Falcon and could never feasibly push him but seems like a suboptimal kill for him still.

Wolf Wilgy will do whatever it takes to give villagers a hard time

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:42 am I wanted to double check I hadn't mistakenly hammered without checking with Michelle because of the case and everything surrounding it.

But no, I made my intent to hammer pretty clear and got approval from her to do so.

This is obviously before I point out that other players like JJJ were pushing for the hammer at least as vocally as me if not moreso and every player had checked in at least once while we were discussing hammers.

And the case has a long list of other logical flaws that I won't get into for time reasons but shrug I think atp I don't need to address this in any more detail.

My bad, that was not a hammer approval, it was rather me giving up in front of your stubbornness to brush off anything I said

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:01 am Although tbf I'm very doubtful that wolf-Michelle wouldn't have bussed Lime Coke after the point in time that the latter went into antispew.

I don't know. The decision of bussing or not bussing depends on the game.
I don't like to bus. It's boring. But in this game would probably become a necessity due to Brad's behaviour.
But also if I were with him in scum chat I would probably ask him to make a circus in the thread and try to make him active and evade the chop.

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:55 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 3:41 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 3:37 am
Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 3:36 am Lime Coke dipping after getting pushed, not caring to solve and only coming back for a lolcat-style post gives me a good idea about his alignment atp.
same impression
Yes, sadly, for me as well.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 02, 2023 3:42 am It feels like we have w/w wagons
Expanding on my earlier question about this:

Even if you thought the wagons were plausibly w/w, why not go for the player who you acknowledged was visibly lolcatting over a player you scumread but could have easily been mistaken on?

Wagonomics.

Also townies are often affraid of big wagons. Someone scum read by everyone and their dog with a staganant wagon is often a mischop and many players know that and try an EoD flash wagon

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:05 am @Michelle what was your read on Brad towards EoD1?

I think I remember that you acknowledged that he seemed to be lolcatting, what kept your vote on Abigail in those circumstances?

I agreed with the wagon on him but I also wanted to keep the cw active. I couldn't wake up so I missed the Eod completely.

The explanation is easy, I thought Abigail had w/w equity with Brad

I am sure that Brad didn't want to give material for spew analysis and his mate was universally TR or at least not in big danger. You have the best position but your idea about bussing gives me a second thought... Maybe I am on the wrong track and I have to reconsider?

Now I have to catch up, but I am here for a while

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