The Syndicate

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:58 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:45 am
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:44 am guys. and girls. i feel like at least 1, or maybe 2 of you are not understanding how neon's role works. when she says "choice" she means her role mechanically restricts her from choosing to shoot whoever she wants. she cant do that. she is given some criteria that she has no control over. and she can choose from that list only.

-t
Honestly i don't care. She is not town
I fucking dare you to shoot me.

Right now you've got a gun so take it put it to my head and pull the trigger.

You shade me because you don't understand what I'm saying it's explained to you and you say oh still wolf ignoring everything

If I'm a wolf pull the trigger and when I flip town can slam the noose over you because if there's a wolf between us it's never me. It's the one shading someone actually clearing the poe

Hey don't worry we die together, my so called gun is a suicide vest
Ender let me down with his action on me. Why give a town read a suicide vest? That's asinine

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:51 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:32 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:03 pm Well anyway Michelle has a gun today.
No i have a suicide bomb
Why did you give me this?
Shoot SVS...pls.

Noted

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:52 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:51 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:32 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:03 pm Well anyway Michelle has a gun today.
No i have a suicide bomb
Why did you give me this?
Shoot SVS...pls.
No me, shoot me plz.

Why, Wilgy?

sig wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:36 pm I’m 100% onboard to take out sloonie today if the rest of town agrees.

I think worst case he’s third party best case he’s mafia.

@Golden 2 thing

1. Why are you still alive
2. Thoughts on sloonie, Kate, and SVS

He's alive because mafia was scared by Nut and Mac, what kind of question is this?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:10 pm The poll should be between Guillotine, Golden, Scotty and SVS. I want no exceptions.

That's a good start.
What do you think about Ender who gave me a suicide vest? If i don't target someone within 2 hours before eod i die alone.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:44 am guys. and girls. i feel like at least 1, or maybe 2 of you are not understanding how neon's role works. when she says "choice" she means her role mechanically restricts her from choosing to shoot whoever she wants. she cant do that. she is given some criteria that she has no control over. and she can choose from that list only.

-t

Honestly i don't care. She is not town

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:40 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:39 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:37 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:32 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:03 pm Well anyway Michelle has a gun today.
No i have a suicide bomb
Why did you give me this?
LOL, I was grumpy Ender lied. But now it makes sense. I would have took him with me 100% of the time, wolf or no
He claimed he gave me a suicide vest?
no he said last night he was giving me a gun. I didnt fully expect him to give me a gun. But not going to lie, disappointed I dont have a gun. Now my threat to PC is empty

Last night? Did you talk to him overnight?

sig wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:13 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:10 pm The poll should be between Guillotine, Golden, Scotty and SVS. I want no exceptions.
Agreed here. Guillo is a personal town read but he’s vanished so like a good vig shot especially if his claim is real. @Michelle maybe take that into consideration with your shot

If scotty is mafia I’d say Dizzy is also mafia

No, if i die I will not take Guillo with me, i let slankers for the Neon. If she don't shot Guillo chop her, she is bad.
Probably SK.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:37 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:32 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:03 pm Well anyway Michelle has a gun today.
No i have a suicide bomb
Why did you give me this?
LOL, I was grumpy Ender lied. But now it makes sense. I would have took him with me 100% of the time, wolf or no

He claimed he gave me a suicide vest?

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:16 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:19 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:03 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 10:20 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 10:12 pm
Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:27 pm @Golden whats your opinion on keeping town vigs alive in positions where youre mafia and youre really deep and you know they wont shoot you?

-t 12/100
They aren't that deep since I spent most of lay night debating shooting 112 or Golden

And i only chose 112 because of how I was treated after shooting a Creature that wasn't even that towny.

But funny enough I'm being treated just as poorly for shooting into the PoE by people now lol
Im not calling you bad as in the game. I am saying I am getting tinfoil on you. But Mac said you're town so I am going to try and not let it set in
I literally shot into the established PoE...
Mac was calling 112 in his town meta if I remember correctly, I was hoping you would shoot svs / scotty. But you're right you did shoot into the POE
Neither SVS or Scotty were on my list last night

I had 112 Rondo Golden Porscha and Michelle as choices.

Very poor choice of shots
Why everyone thinks you are town?

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:26 am @Michelle pls shoot sloonei lets kill the last slanker

[VOTE: sloonei] aubergine

-t

Let me play the day, unless you got bored by my presence

And please @Dyslexicon the help me find my target

I will die as well, but it is how it is. I have to submit it before 2 hours before Eod or i will die alone

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:03 pm Well anyway Michelle has a gun today.

No i have a suicide bomb
Why did you give me this?

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:20 pm teamwork sucks. i'm more of a lone wolf, so to speak.

I know my opinion is not valid for everyone

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:09 pm It feels too easy!!

While this can be true, and we never know before the actual flip what will happen, we have to clear the Poe and think after
Mafia is sometimes easy, you know?

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:52 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:49 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:42 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:21 am So not voting toDay

Dennis
Kate
Golden
Zeus
Lucy
Ender

Not a fan of
Lily
Alison
Rondo
Honestly this is quite likely to be clearing for Michelle. @Golden
Who is Zeus

But yeah that's a really good look actually. Or TMI. I have been coming around on Michelle, and you know she has done towny things throughout the game and if she gets a foothold maybe I'll fully realise I'm tinfoiling.
One of the PC heads.

Michelle doesn't bus btw. Like ever. It's not in her wolf playstyle to a completely lock reliable degree.
Yes this is definitely true. Michelle was OK with me bussing when we were wolves together in the sense that she could see that when I did it, it was improving our win equity. And she did sort of bus Quin at the end when she absolutely had to. But she still didn't enjoy any of that stuff. It's not her preference or desire at all.

To furter explain I think bussing is boring. I prefer to keep my team as a whole and have fun together

In this game the power of teamwork pays off as either alignment

[VOTE: lily] aubergine

Noted how Party and Sloonei are affraid to vote Mac

I don't think i buy that Sloonei don't understand Mac's claim
@MacDougall explain it again

And bring here Zeus if he can play

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:02 pm why do my other heads keep claiming smh

Vote Mac pls

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:40 pm Am I supposed to vote Mac for the Greater Good today?

Yes

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 12:55 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 12:50 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 12:48 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 12:45 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 12:44 pm You've been proclaiming all day that you're shielding him until tomorrow. Why would it bother you that I'm accepting that?
Shielding him till tomorrow is not in any way shape or form me saying he can be mech cleared
Fair.

I just copy-pasted my list from earlier, and didn't think that hard about the players I had already slotted as town since I didn't have reason to move them.
I want to understand your read for me if you are kind and explain it
Several of the players in my POE I haven't had time develop reads on yet, and haven't seen a mech or other reason to move them out of it.

That's why you're there. But I'll try to get around to doing that later if I can.

Can you give me a towncase of yourself?

I don't usually town case myself.
Few ideas, I am unaligned with the soup mafia and the thirds squad and I put myself as Mac voter when no one else except Scotty has enough courage to do so.
I said if i stay in the wagon I will hard claim closer to Eod but I hope someone will join it because Mac need at least 2 and if i can leave the wagon I will not claim.
I hate what Rondo is doing, the allussions at self clearing and such without explanations, i am not doing this because I don't play like that.

VC

Spoiler: show

Nice shot btw Dizzy, and grats Mac to find the best shot

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 12:48 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 12:45 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 12:44 pm You've been proclaiming all day that you're shielding him until tomorrow. Why would it bother you that I'm accepting that?
Shielding him till tomorrow is not in any way shape or form me saying he can be mech cleared
Fair.

I just copy-pasted my list from earlier, and didn't think that hard about the players I had already slotted as town since I didn't have reason to move them.

I want to understand your read for me if you are kind and explain it

Awww Mac

Ok, Golden backtracking is noted.

I have to work, cya in few hours

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 3:06 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:59 am I dont have any concrete reason or anything for this opinion but I have only exclusively played with town michelle and i cant help but keep feeling like shes different
She is different but not HEAPS different.

@Golden Michelle's play can just as easily be explained by her only just recently finding her feet and trying to help town. I don't know if she's trying to upend the status quo so much as she doesn't have enough context to appreciate that the game has a pretty solid alignment on certain slots.

@Michelle I would recommend decreasing your focus to solving in a smaller pool of players that are more consensus PoE rather than trying to push towncore members. The towncore is pretty sound and has pelts there is no need to foil it. There's max 1 mega wolf and probably none.

Said POE is easily available by looking at my recent posts.

I'd be interested also more in you actually reading content and giving your assessment on actual things than just presenting names to the thread like a cat dropping dead birds at the doorstep.

I am not doing that, i am sharing my thoughts.
Keep your TRs close to you, i am not anymore your second vote i will follow my own judgement
I am tinfoiling your town core Golden, you give them too much credit while they are pushing me for nothing (implying i am mod squad and that's a huge red flag)

Also I want dead the players i mentioned above

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:55 am @Michelle Golden is in my townreads because I am reading him as having an incredibly strong desire to help town win this game, and we are? The nature of our lead I attribute at least to a significant degree the fact that despite our flare ups Golden and I have generated a productive POE that's resulted in a wolf pelt two times in two days.

Yes, i understand that.
Golden is never soup mafia

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:56 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:51 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:48 am I would shoot HK and then vote off Guillo.
Then force Sloonei, Sig and Party Crasher to vote me. I just want 3. I don't want to have to decide between more than 3. If Dizzy shoots a weird target and they're town replace sig with Dizzy.

If anyone of those people don't vote me consider them outed imo.
@Sloonei
@Party Crasher
@sig
You know what to do, join me on the Mac wagon
I don't want you on it. Find a wolf and make yourself readable on play. Miss me with the "Mac wants me dead" stuff just cuz I made a list of 9 players and asked people to townread them you happened to be on. It's fatalistic and pointless emo talk.

I suspect the mod squad 3rd party is a back up scum team
Some players look like having an agenda but they're not aligned with soup mafia.
I think Golden is not town, but he is certainly not soup mafia.
Also I suspect Ulrist. Seems wishy washy.
Lily is another suspect for me.
I will keep my vote on you until someone else is voting

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:48 am I would shoot HK and then vote off Guillo.
Then force Sloonei, Sig and Party Crasher to vote me. I just want 3. I don't want to have to decide between more than 3. If Dizzy shoots a weird target and they're town replace sig with Dizzy.

If anyone of those people don't vote me consider them outed imo.

@Sloonei
@Party Crasher
@sig
You know what to do, join me on the Mac wagon

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:12 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:13 pm A project.

Dizzy
Guillo
HK
Marmot
Michelle
SVS
Scotty
Urist

Copy paste this list and tell me why they're town please
dizzy - if he's town he has done nothing wrong, he's done pretty well. i find all of his positions sensible
guillo - if he's town its coz other people are saying he's in his town meta
hk - if he's town he's just town, just coinflip
marmot - if he's town its coz his role is confirmed and benign and nanook (probably) didnt give him both a fruit vendor and some additional action on top? unless he's just a mafia tree vendor. i also thought he looks unaligned with MR
michelle - if she's town its coz shes polarized and cant post so much and have stable wim as wolf?
svs - she agreed to die by voting you
scotty - he's chilling, doing his scotty thing. consistent wim. just doing scotty things
urist - doesnt care about being townread, makes witty pop-ins and say some info and then disappears

No, that's not why I am town

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:31 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:29 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:26 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:25 am Tbh if there is a second team then Neon insisting is not multiball is agenda-y

The thread is more tensioned than an all villagers/3rds game facing the rest of a halved (more or less) scum soup team.
Why on earth are we still propagating that there is another team? I have seen no evidence of such
Illario flipped squad something
Not a clear scum faction but the flip is redacted
It literally says ‘MOD SQUAD, THIRD PARTY’

Pretty clear and dry to me it’s just that

Third party who can become full mafia team if soup mafia is eliminated?
Idk, i am just thinking out loud

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:29 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:27 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:25 am I’m on vacation but if I get some time tomorrow I’ll do some deep dives into a few people on the fence ankutZ

Like falcon, who no one responded to me about. Why do people townread him? Couldn’t tell you.

Dunno how long Dizzy is holding the shot.

“Swing away, Merrill. Merrill, swing away” -Signs
Falcon has good interactions with flipped soup mafia.
Chances michelle knows this but genuinely forgot I was neighbours with Alison?

Well, daddy posted it, i couldn’t forget.
But you were itt and you could say it yourself

And I certainly didn’t read all your posts but i forgot about the neighborhood claim because I don't think Alison gives correct spew behind and so the info was forgettable.
Now i will keep it in mind - who you targeted last night?

Also Michelle is my name translated in english you should write it with capital letter

And will you talk to me for real trying to solve my slot or you only have the 'Michelle is scum' song in your head?

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:26 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:25 am Tbh if there is a second team then Neon insisting is not multiball is agenda-y

The thread is more tensioned than an all villagers/3rds game facing the rest of a halved (more or less) scum soup team.
Why on earth are we still propagating that there is another team? I have seen no evidence of such

Illario flipped squad something
Not a clear scum faction but the flip is redacted

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:25 am I’m on vacation but if I get some time tomorrow I’ll do some deep dives into a few people on the fence ankutZ

Like falcon, who no one responded to me about. Why do people townread him? Couldn’t tell you.

Dunno how long Dizzy is holding the shot.

“Swing away, Merrill. Merrill, swing away” -Signs

Falcon has good interactions with flipped soup mafia.

Tbh if there is a second team then Neon insisting is not multiball is agenda-y

The thread is more tensioned than an all villagers/3rds game facing the rest of a halved (more or less) scum soup team.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:15 am
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:14 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:04 am
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:04 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:58 am
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:56 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:52 am
@Golden
It’s my role.
didnt you target nutella for some reason? That still isnt square with me. Why would you target the night kill?
I think you’ve completely misunderstood what happened.
What happened?
I didn’t target nutella and I didn’t know she was the night kill until after the night
Who was your N2 target?

Ebwop

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:14 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:04 am
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:04 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:58 am
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:56 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:52 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:51 am I forgot about the neighborhood with Alison, how that happened Golden?
@Golden
It’s my role.
didnt you target nutella for some reason? That still isnt square with me. Why would you target the night kill?
I think you’ve completely misunderstood what happened.
What happened?
I didn’t target nutella and I didn’t know she was the night kill until after the night

Wio was your N2 target?

@MacDougall why is Golden in your town reads?

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:56 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:52 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:51 am I forgot about the neighborhood with Alison, how that happened Golden?
@Golden
It’s my role.

Why you choose Alison?

Also Alison playing all game in antispew is something new to you Golden?
If i die because Alison gave me a town read, so be it, but anyway i don't have a wagon and i put myself at Mac's judgment without even being asked to do so.
You have no logic to scum read me.
You only make a blind push.
If you are town get out of the tunnel, if you are scum do whatever you want.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:51 am I forgot about the neighborhood with Alison, how that happened Golden?

@Golden

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:51 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:48 am
Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:34 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:28 am
Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 10:20 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:25 pm @Golden i hope you give me the answer until i wake up
The answer is what I said. I townread everyone else.
Wrong answer my friend!

Give me one line for why you town read everyone else.
Nah. It’s just busy work. It’s all in my iso.
It's not busy work
Is the proof you know what your stance is
Until now i don't have a solid reason from you to tunnel me except meta which is not it, my wolf meta cannot be evaluated by one game and you certainly don't know my town meta.
Meta is a well known reason for a bad push and your TR for Kate is only meta based as well.
If this game is a multiball in fact, you are a wolf who can't naturally explain your reads when asked and call busy work a list of reads just to escape from pressure.
I really don’t think this post comes from town michelle

I really dont believe you

I forgot about the neighborhood with Alison, how that happened Golden?

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:34 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:28 am
Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 10:20 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:25 pm @Golden i hope you give me the answer until i wake up
The answer is what I said. I townread everyone else.
Wrong answer my friend!

Give me one line for why you town read everyone else.
Nah. It’s just busy work. It’s all in my iso.

It's not busy work
Is the proof you know what your stance is
Until now i don't have a solid reason from you to tunnel me except meta which is not it, my wolf meta cannot be evaluated by one game and you certainly don't know my town meta.
Meta is a well known reason for a bad push and your TR for Kate is only meta based as well.
If this game is a multiball in fact, you are a wolf who can't naturally explain your reads when asked and call busy work a list of reads just to escape from pressure.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 10:20 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:25 pm @Golden i hope you give me the answer until i wake up
The answer is what I said. I townread everyone else.

Wrong answer my friend!

Give me one line for why you town read everyone else.

@Golden i hope you give me the answer until i wake up

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:14 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:13 pm @Golden is your Poe made by
'Guillo
112 (but Lily also a good choice)
Michelle

Throw in hk`
?
Just asking
That would be mine yes.

And I’m happy to avoid you today on the request of others. I think you are probably most townie of the 5 to me anyway at this point.

You can't get away that easy. Tell me why for each of the mentioned players and what gives you the reads.
Don't give me the others' reads reason, tell me about your own thoughts pls

I vote Mac to help him clear his Poe.
If he really wants me dead i offer him the possibility

Also i will hard claim close to Eod

Because you have suspicion on 3 slankers, 1 WIMless and a townie and i want to understand your worldview

@Golden is your Poe made by
'Guillo
112 (but Lily also a good choice)
Michelle

Throw in hk`
?
Just asking

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