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by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:44 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:23 pm I’m having second thoughts about Kate. Dismissing “90% of big talkers as town” is not exactly an “intuition”, and it’s a read begging for egg on the face. I worry about it being TMI.

@Michelle could you describe what you like most about Kate?
She seemed relaxed in her posts, but I have to reread them.
Also I kind of liked the idea of civvies Sod banter, someone reading town so many players has a harder time to backtrack later in the game and wolves usually avoid that
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:41 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

DrWilgy wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:33 pm
Roxy wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:31 pm @Wiml uh I guess I can detail Epi in that I form reads from vibes and tone. Epi's tone seems different than last game and it bugged me thinking he could be bad but last two times I thought he was bad he was in fact town. The basis of my read.

@DrWilgy I am so sorry to hear this feel better soon <3 hope you have had a vaccine <3
Ty ty. I've been through it twice already and have been vaccinated, I expect my immune system to boot it out of me in another day or two.
Get well soon DrW!
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:32 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

Wiml I quoted it already, it's Game 6 of Champs this season
We even talked endgame when she told me she played like her town game so I caught her for the wrong reason and I explained her why it was different for me.
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:00 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

Lime Coke wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:32 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:31 am
Lime Coke wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:29 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:27 am
Lime Coke wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:22 am JJJ probably town this game the dude feels way different from his mafia game solve wise.

Michelle I'm actually leaning town on a tad bit.

Annnnd can toss a townlean on Kate and Abigail.
Talk to me about Abigail pls
Mostly vibes while reading her posts.
She has good vibes as wolf too.
You're not wrong.

I'll see how the rest of the day plays out for her I'll tone the read down a bit.
This one
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:00 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

Wiml wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:56 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:38 am
Lime Coke wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:35 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:34 am
Lime Coke wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:31 amDoesn't seem to care about his vote.

His question towards Epi voting Quinn didn't feel like something he was trying to use to solve Epi and didn't look like he cared about the response.
Understood, thanks. I'll stow my thoughts until falcon responds to this.
He'll probably post.






Like this.
:haha:

Thanks for keeping your reads open Brad, this looks good for you
Mind explaining what you mean here?
He had a post above that where he said he will watch Abigail's play or something
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:58 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

I understand that Wiml, but also I understand Epi. The question in that post implies a fake concern if you ask me, and it's the kind of non contributive post a wolf would use at the game start.
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:55 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

Wiml copy pasting the poll on phone is not so friendly but keeping the VCs from time to time is useful.
I mark the text and when my phone is moody it moves the mark and I have to do it again. Bigger the game, harder the job, but in this game is a piece of cake :)

I started to do it long ago and it's not AI for me btw
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:38 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

Wiml wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:30 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:40 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:58 pm To the best of my memory, this is the first time I have been a civilian in a Syndicate game since 2021. I am probably going to be my worstbest self and play at full throttle, as though this is the last chance I will ever have to solve a Mafia game.

Come friends, and let us make mincemeat of malevolent mountainous mafia.
Wait... this is the last game your ever playing?
I realise that I misread this post from Abigail initially and it's nowhere near as bad as I had initially thought it was on my first viewing.
Can you please explain more about your first take and the way you see that post now?
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:29 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:19 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:43 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:25 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:44 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:40 am Okay but like what I mean by this is not real is that 2 people have said that I'm town

Michelle has said why

They've answered

Michelle has said no

And they've been like oh ha yes you are right in fact no

And nobody thinks this is fishy or weird.

It brings to mind that famous W Bush quote

Fool me once shame on you fool me twice uh never fool me again
Truth be told, my biggest takeaway from that sequence wasn't "Abigail is suspicious", but instead it was "Michelle is making sound points and seems authentic". This is kind of the nature of teamwork, as I see it.

I do think it's plausible that LC followed the wave, since his reduced town read followed directly from mine. So that could be called fishy.
I mean... maybe but I don't even think the reasoning was that sound Michelle was just looking for a reason to omgus me
I take that you consider my vote on you fabricated. Give me details
I think that you are accusing me of things you are actively doing far more than I am wrt pocketing specifically

And I do not believe you believe your reasons for voting me when you have seen me play before.
I do believe them exactly because I saw you playing before and also caught you wolfing despite the fact everyone in the thread was against my push because you had a pure tone.

Aand I am pocketing my town reads when I am town in all my games if you want to call my attitude pocketing.
That's how I play.
Tbh a great player taught me that and I found it friendly and suited with my personality. It increases town's positive energy.

And if I am wrong about you, just do your thing, it's not like I have reads set in stone in the first quarter of D1
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:46 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

Lime Coke wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:40 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:38 am Brad you changed playstyle. Just noticed it but I think I was aware since the league game.
Is it that different?

Like I got rid of the massive hard defending... which I'll still do every now and then but a lot less rage.

My read collecting style might be different and I actually make pushes.
Yes. Lenght of posts, complete explanations of thoughts and probably a minor difference between town and wolf games.
I am not sure I can read you so easy like I used to.
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:43 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:25 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:44 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:40 am Okay but like what I mean by this is not real is that 2 people have said that I'm town

Michelle has said why

They've answered

Michelle has said no

And they've been like oh ha yes you are right in fact no

And nobody thinks this is fishy or weird.

It brings to mind that famous W Bush quote

Fool me once shame on you fool me twice uh never fool me again
Truth be told, my biggest takeaway from that sequence wasn't "Abigail is suspicious", but instead it was "Michelle is making sound points and seems authentic". This is kind of the nature of teamwork, as I see it.

I do think it's plausible that LC followed the wave, since his reduced town read followed directly from mine. So that could be called fishy.
I mean... maybe but I don't even think the reasoning was that sound Michelle was just looking for a reason to omgus me
I take that you consider my vote on you fabricated. Give me details
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:38 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

Brad you changed playstyle. Just noticed it but I think I was aware since the league game.
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:36 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

Wiml wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:32 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:29 am
Wiml wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:05 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:33 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:31 am It's a read I've used with consistency for months with insanely high accuracy.

The read is the first wagon with 3 votes always had 1 wolf in 4 names

I admittedly forced it here but still.
Or alternatively, if you can remember another time you made this read, that'd help. I said earlier that I thought I had seen it before from you, but I cannot recall specifically.
I can vouch for this tell being a thing that town-Abi would absolutely believe in, even if I also can't think of a specific time she's made this read otoh.
Like many players, when wolfing, she tries to mimick her town game. The fact town her goes for a mafia in first wagon doesn't mean scum her wouldn't try the same tactic
Fully agree, just vouching that it's not wolf-indicative of her.
It's more than that though.
The agreement with Jay that you and me are oposed alignment looks pockety and false in the 'one in these 4 players is a wolf but not me' worldview.
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:33 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

VC
Spoiler: show
Squash your first bug!
Poll runs till Thu Aug 03, 2023 12:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


☆Princess Abigail☆
2
20%
Voters: Epignosis, Michelle
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Epignosis
0
No votes
Voters: None
falcon45ca
1
10%
Voters: Lime Coke
JaggedJimmyJay
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kate
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lime Coke
2
20%
Voters: Wiml, JaggedJimmyJay
Michelle
2
20%
Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆, falcon45ca
Quin
0
No votes
Voters: None
Roxy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Wiml
0
No votes
Voters: None
Unvote
0
No votes
Voters: None
Spectator
3
30%
Voters: Scotty, Seanzie, Syn
Total votes: 10

3 equal wagons of 2 votes are interesting
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:29 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

Wiml wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:05 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:33 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:31 am It's a read I've used with consistency for months with insanely high accuracy.

The read is the first wagon with 3 votes always had 1 wolf in 4 names

I admittedly forced it here but still.
Or alternatively, if you can remember another time you made this read, that'd help. I said earlier that I thought I had seen it before from you, but I cannot recall specifically.
I can vouch for this tell being a thing that town-Abi would absolutely believe in, even if I also can't think of a specific time she's made this read otoh.
Like many players, when wolfing, she tries to mimick her town game. The fact town her goes for a mafia in first wagon doesn't mean scum her wouldn't try the same tactic
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:25 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:46 am @Michelle do you still read falcon as town?
I wouldn't bet the game on it rn, but I wouldn't vote him either. I need more content from him.
Vibe test was good but it's not enough.
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:20 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

I have some chores to do, I will visit the game later
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:19 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

Lime Coke wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:17 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:56 am
Lime Coke wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:48 am
Spoiler: show
Wiml wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:41 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:47 pm Michelle
Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆, falcon45ca, Wiml


One of these 4 names is a wolf. Spoiler. It's not me.
Why are you confident that there's specifically one wolf in those four names?

Given that you would know that you're town, I'm not seeing a compelling reason why a two vote wagon on another player during RVS has to contain a wolf within the three names with the confidence you're suggesting here.

Not that I don't think it's very plausible but I'm specifically interested about hearing about why you're so confident about this.
Sir if there is one thing that I am, it is scared.
I am never scared when I am town and when I am wolf I try to hide it. Why are you scared?
No reason it was just a joke.
:huh:
Ookay...
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:17 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

Wiml wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:16 am Ftr I do not plan to just go "ah yes, x did y thing as wolf so they're a wolf" or bad stuff like that.

I just want to get a feel for the playstyles and personalities of the people I don't know well as both alignments.
I am curious to see how you handle meta tbh
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:15 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:08 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:05 am Also @JaggedJimmyJay here are my last 2 finished games one town one mafia at MU, not turbos/mashes/anons (because I played 2 anon games, 2 mashes and 3 turbos but they are not regular games)

Season 10, Game 6: The Good, the Bad, and the Scummy (The Mafia Championship)
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ionship%29

Mafia League: S2 M1G1
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ue-S2-M1G1
Thank you for these. On a quick scan, you made reads on SCCHAMP and Abgiail/Zenon (in each respective game) early on that fit the theme I had asked about earlier. That's a nice boost for you.
It's a playstyle that gives me a lot of heat, I should be more self conscious in Champs because if I wouldn't be PR I would die as D1 mischop for it.
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:11 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

Wiml wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:03 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:00 am
Wiml wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:52 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:49 am
Wiml wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:46 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:49 pm I’m considering a Michelle/Wiml “difference check”. That term is too strong for where I stand, but some softer version of that.
Expand on your thought process behind this, please?
I had two conflicting impressions: Michelle's reads were hard to buy, and you seemed a bit opportunistic in pushing it the way that you did. That'd suggest one mafia between the two of you without clarity about who. It was more a hunch that I was mulling over, and the term "difference check" generally implies more certitude -- so "softer version of that". I can see you both being town too.
Alright, seems fair. I tried to make it clear with the follow up post but it really wasn't a strong read on my end - I just had a lot to say since I'd been holding off while Michelle was still answering questions.
Wiml can you continue here?
Anything in particular you'd like me to expand on?
You said
"I just had a lot to say since I'd been holding off while Michelle was still answering questions."

So your read on me is not fully expressed. I assume you have more to it than in post P#190
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:05 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
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Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

Also @JaggedJimmyJay here are my last 2 finished games one town one mafia at MU, not turbos/mashes/anons (because I played 2 anon games, 2 mashes and 3 turbos but they are not regular games)

Season 10, Game 6: The Good, the Bad, and the Scummy (The Mafia Championship)
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ionship%29


Mafia League: S2 M1G1
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ue-S2-M1G1
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:00 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

Wiml wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:52 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:49 am
Wiml wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:46 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:49 pm I’m considering a Michelle/Wiml “difference check”. That term is too strong for where I stand, but some softer version of that.
Expand on your thought process behind this, please?
I had two conflicting impressions: Michelle's reads were hard to buy, and you seemed a bit opportunistic in pushing it the way that you did. That'd suggest one mafia between the two of you without clarity about who. It was more a hunch that I was mulling over, and the term "difference check" generally implies more certitude -- so "softer version of that". I can see you both being town too.
Alright, seems fair. I tried to make it clear with the follow up post but it really wasn't a strong read on my end - I just had a lot to say since I'd been holding off while Michelle was still answering questions.
Wiml can you continue here?
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:56 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

Lime Coke wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:48 am
Spoiler: show
Wiml wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:41 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:47 pm Michelle
Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆, falcon45ca, Wiml


One of these 4 names is a wolf. Spoiler. It's not me.
Why are you confident that there's specifically one wolf in those four names?

Given that you would know that you're town, I'm not seeing a compelling reason why a two vote wagon on another player during RVS has to contain a wolf within the three names with the confidence you're suggesting here.

Not that I don't think it's very plausible but I'm specifically interested about hearing about why you're so confident about this.
Sir if there is one thing that I am, it is scared.
I am never scared when I am town and when I am wolf I try to hide it. Why are you scared?
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:59 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

Lime Coke wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:45 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:40 am I think while is night in America the thread will be dead anyway so I am waiting for new inputs before posting more.

If it’s late at you, go to sleep, everyone!
Eh there seems to be a decent amount of posting already but certain slots need to wake up a bit more.
Spoiler: show
Yes I understand glass houses are cheap on Zillow.
Yes, this game needs more talking

I don't get the spoiler :sigh:
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:58 am
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Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:43 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:40 am I think while is night in America the thread will be dead anyway so I am waiting for new inputs before posting more.

If it’s late at you, go to sleep, everyone!
Thank you for caring more about my wellbeing than I care about my wellbeing. :hug:
:bighug:
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:43 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:39 am Something good
falcon45ca
Kate
Epignosis
Michelle


Undecided
Abigail
Lime Coke
Wiml
Roxy


Nothing
DrWilgy
Quin


I'm at something like this. The names are not ordered within groups, and positions are tenuous. I am less confident in all of these than I would like to be, but one must start somewhere.
Agree about Kate and Epi.
Waiting for Falcon to answer and be more active.

I miss both @DrWilgy and @Quin come play folks!
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:40 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

I think while is night in America the thread will be dead anyway so I am waiting for new inputs before posting more.

If it’s late at you, go to sleep, everyone!
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:38 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

Lime Coke wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:35 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:34 am
Lime Coke wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:31 amDoesn't seem to care about his vote.

His question towards Epi voting Quinn didn't feel like something he was trying to use to solve Epi and didn't look like he cared about the response.
Understood, thanks. I'll stow my thoughts until falcon responds to this.
He'll probably post.






Like this.
:haha:

Thanks for keeping your reads open Brad, this looks good for you
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:31 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

Lime Coke wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:29 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:27 am
Lime Coke wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:22 am JJJ probably town this game the dude feels way different from his mafia game solve wise.

Michelle I'm actually leaning town on a tad bit.

Annnnd can toss a townlean on Kate and Abigail.
Talk to me about Abigail pls
Mostly vibes while reading her posts.
She has good vibes as wolf too.
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:30 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:27 am I think I understand how Epignosis is playing so far, and if so that's a good thing for him. I don't want to expand on that yet.
No need to. I think I get it.
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:30 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:25 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:22 am My take is the oposite. She came, said a non energetic hi, saw a wagon and hopped in without any other logic behind that it have to contain a wolf and choosing the actual wagon because why not.

1. Wolves need to have to show activity so they will start by supporting any wagon on a townie that it's there.
2. The addition at the so called wagon analysis is so forced, "not me", and psychologically implies manipulative intention.
3. I am sorry you don't observe the pocketing attitude she has while she agrees with your Michelle/ Wiml not aligned.

I am putting my vote down on her and I would do it for any other wagon she would put her vote on as third vote for no reason, but I am doing it with more conviction because I have TMI on my alignament.

[VOTE: Abigail] aubergine
I can understand this perspective, and in an ironic sense the validity in "one of these people is mafia" can be applied to her as much as to you or Wiml. Perhaps there's self-awareness in that.

I'll remove my town read on her for now. I don't have much confidence in it.
You added a new point against her and I coloured it.
I do appreciate the bolded
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:27 am
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Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

Lime Coke wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:22 am JJJ probably town this game the dude feels way different from his mafia game solve wise.

Michelle I'm actually leaning town on a tad bit.

Annnnd can toss a townlean on Kate and Abigail.
Talk to me about Abigail pls
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:26 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

Hi Brad! It’s a joy to play again!
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:25 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

VC
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Squash your first bug!
Poll runs till Thu Aug 03, 2023 12:00 am
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☆Princess Abigail☆
2
25%
Voters: Epignosis, Michelle
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Epignosis
0
No votes
Voters: None
falcon45ca
0
No votes
Voters: None
JaggedJimmyJay
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kate
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lime Coke
0
No votes
Voters: None
Michelle
3
38%
Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆, falcon45ca, Wiml
Quin
0
No votes
Voters: None
Roxy
0
0
No votes
Voters: None
Wiml
0
No votes
Voters: None
Unvote
0
No votes
Voters: None
Spectator
3
38%
Voters: Scotty, Seanzie, Syn
Total votes: 8
☆Princess Abigail☆ 2 Voters: Epignosis, Michelle
Michelle 3 Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆, falcon45ca
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:22 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:02 am
Michelle wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:00 am Jay at the moment when you voiced your town read on Abigail these were her posts.
What in these have AI content from your PoV?
@JaggedJimmyJay
It's like I tried to describe in the other post: her vote for you and view of your wagon (that either you or one of your voters is mafia) struck me as a real thing.
My take is the oposite. She came, said a non energetic hi, saw a wagon and hopped in without any other logic behind that it have to contain a wolf and choosing the actual wagon because why not.

1. Wolves need to have to show activity so they will start by supporting any wagon on a townie that it's there.
2. The addition at the so called wagon analysis is so forced, "not me", and psychologically implies manipulative intention.
3. I am sorry you don't observe the pocketing attitude she has while she agrees with your Michelle/ Wiml not aligned.

I am putting my vote down on her and I would do it for any other wagon she would put her vote on as third vote for no reason, but I am doing it with more conviction because I have TMI on my alignament.

[VOTE: Abigail] aubergine
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:01 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:58 am
Kate wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:31 pm I very rarely give qualification or much reason, but falcon doesn't bound into the game talking about actual game stuff as wolf. And I can't remember wold falcon ever being on eof the first voter, which he just became when he voted Michelle. So my read on him remains civ.

Me and falcon, town core. Lol.
My town lean for Kate was pretty much just believing that this explanation was authentic. I don't know Kate terribly well and will be careful with that, but it's my initial impression.
I accept the TR on Kate.
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:00 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

Jay at the moment when you voiced your town read on Abigail these were her posts.
What in these have AI content from your PoV?
@JaggedJimmyJay
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:47 pm Michelle
Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆, falcon45ca, Wiml


One of these 4 names is a wolf. Spoiler. It's not me.
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:41 pm
Wiml wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:21 pm And obviously having a pleasant set of players toxicity-wise is very nice as well.
Oh dear I see you don't know me...
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:41 pm
Michelle wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:14 pm Hi everyone, I waited for this game to start with so much joy and excitement!
Maybe because of the bugs, or because the playerslist is so cool, I let you guess!

Let's have a fun game :heart:

Linki: we don't murder people in cold blood, sir, we analyze facts and eliminate the suspects
Vote: Michelle.

Hi.
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:40 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:58 pm To the best of my memory, this is the first time I have been a civilian in a Syndicate game since 2021. I am probably going to be my worstbest self and play at full throttle, as though this is the last chance I will ever have to solve a Mafia game.

Come friends, and let us make mincemeat of malevolent mountainous mafia.
Wait... this is the last game your ever playing?
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:39 pm Hi
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:39 pm
Wiml wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:59 pmHey folks.
Wiml!
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:55 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:10 pm
Spoiler: show
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:41 pm
Michelle wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:14 pm Hi everyone, I waited for this game to start with so much joy and excitement!
Maybe because of the bugs, or because the playerslist is so cool, I let you guess!

Let's have a fun game :heart:

Linki: we don't murder people in cold blood, sir, we analyze facts and eliminate the suspects
Vote: Michelle.

Hi.
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:47 pm Michelle
Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆, falcon45ca, Wiml


One of these 4 names is a wolf. Spoiler. It's not me.
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:28 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:49 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:47 pm Michelle
Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆, falcon45ca, Wiml


One of these 4 names is a wolf. Spoiler. It's not me.
I’m considering a Michelle/Wiml “difference check”. That term is too strong for where I stand, but some softer version of that.
I think it could be. I know I'm town.

I don't agree with locking falcon town for such weak reasons but I am town leaning falcon.

So to me it's always Michelle or Wiml

To expand on my town read of Abigail, refer to the above spoiler. The initial vote means little on its own, but coupled with the follow-up, a concrete and meaningful strategy is visible. Abigail joined the game to find two votes already on Michelle (falcon and Wiml), and determined that this is mafia-indicative for someone in that trio -- so she voted for one of them (reasonably, the one already receiving votes). I believe I have seen this precise rationale from Abigail in the past, and it's a unique sort of methodology that I think she shares with the DrWilgy types of the world. The rationale is generally either a member of the mafia team has fumbled the bag with an awkward entry, or town is getting railroaded and mafia are chomping at the bit to make it worse. It's not necessarily a philosophy I believe in myself, but I believe that Abigail believes in it. I'm also not sure that's the direction she is likely to go immediately upon entering the game if she is mafia.

I also like her gentle resistance to my confidence about falcon, even as she town reads falcon herself. Healthy skepticism of vocal thread motion is a good thing if done responsibly, and Abigail did so responsibly.
Nvm I found it. Let me read it
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:53 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

falcon45ca wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:05 pm
Epignosis wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:03 pm Why do you always have five spaces between two lines?

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Could do


More?
Can you respect the phone posters and not do that again?
Thanks!
by Michelle
Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:51 am
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:10 pm In a 9v2 game, we have three mistakes available without losing the game.

Add three mistakes to the number of mafia (2) to get your target POE pool size of five.

Five correct town reads not including oneself constitutes a complete solve (the remaining five form the POE pool).

These things may be obvious to everyone. I want us to remain mindful anyway.

I have a confident town read (falcon) and two decent town leans (Kate and Abigail). At least two more bright shining civilians would be spectacular.
Can you explain me your town leans, Jay?
by Michelle
Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:38 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:35 pm
Michelle wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:34 pm Not now, I am phone posting in bed in darkness and I am close to the dreaming realm. Tomorrow and if I forget please ask again.

It's 1:30 am for me :zzz:
By all means, it's not that important right this moment. Sleep well!
Thank you! Have a pleasant evening!
by Michelle
Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:37 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:31 pm
Michelle wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:29 pm One more thing sir, if you have a suspicion why don’t you use your vote?
I don't always believe that spamming votes onto people is the best course of action. When people get heavily wagoned right after a game starts, they can get thrown off-balance even when they are town and struggle to find their way back. I'm giving you space to breathe and play.
I respect that, and I understand your PoV.
My view is that the vote is town's weapon and the only one in a mountainous game.

Brain refuses to think more, sorry
by Michelle
Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:34 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:30 pm
Michelle wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:28 pmconsider I am not doing these reads in most of my games regardless alignament, I will inform you you are wrong on both.
Is this something you'd be able to provide a link for from a recent town game?
Not now, I am phone posting in bed in darkness and I am close to the dreaming realm. Tomorrow and if I forget please ask again.

It's 1:30 am for me :zzz:
by Michelle
Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:29 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:25 pm
Michelle wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:21 pm I will explain why I make GTH reads at SoD: it's to see reactions.
They don't have bad reactions, both of them, insta voting me for making an undeserved AI judgement.
That's a perfectly valid strategy, and I have often done the same thing in the past. I am still left to decide, however, if you were truly pursuing reactions or if those were meant to be real reads that you have had to walk back. I will think about it.
Michelle wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:21 pmYou, otoh, you are focused on your image and the way you present yourself and your reads. It may be that you turned into a pedantic player who needs rainbow reads for 4 players.
Or you want to show off and the focus on how you look it's your way to impress the other townies?
I don't care about my image, but I am absolutely concerned with the ways that I present my reads. When players aren't considerate of their presentation, they tend to have a negative impact on the climate of a game. I don't necessarily "need" to build rainbows with limited players to assess, but it does sometimes help me to conceptualize a starting point for myself.

There's much day phase remaining, so I will leave you be for now so you can play on your own terms.
One more thing sir, if you have a suspicion why don’t you use your vote?
by Michelle
Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:28 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

Wiml wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:18 pm
Michelle wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:02 pm The thing is, I can trust the fact Wiml wouldn't post that as a wolf but I can't trust Jay with the same thing.

Also the Falcon intro is a thing I noticed in many games where he was town.He says is NAI, so I want a wolf game when he started like that @falcon45ca
If you're town then you're very severely underestimating my wolf range anyway tbh.
I am not underestimating your or Falcon's wolf range, dw

The simple fact you talk about your wolfing skills it's a plus though.

Answering at the other post, if you think I am such a bad wolf to make TMI slips at the game start and consider I am not doing these reads in most of my games regardless alignament, I will inform you you are wrong on both.
by Michelle
Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:21 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:11 pm
Michelle wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:07 pm My reads make sense for me and I believe in what I see and I explained them. I didn't make them to be believable for you Jay
That could be true. I don't know. I am still required to interpret those reads for myself and make my own judgment.
Michelle wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:07 pmand your rush to paint me scum is nagl.
Why is my suspicion "nagl"? Do you believe the following two reads should be regarded as trustworthy? Imagine someone other than you made these reads and you had to decide what to do with them.

"falcon is town, because falcon said I AM TOWN the way he did in a previous town game"
"Wiml is town, because he referred to 'cold blood', and I don't think he would as mafia"
I will explain why I make GTH reads at SoD: it's to see reactions.
They don't have bad reactions, both of them, insta voting me for making an undeserved AI judgement.
You, otoh, you are focused on your image and the way you present yourself and your reads. It may be that you turned into a pedantic player who needs rainbow reads for 4 players.
Or you want to show off and the focus on how you look it's your way to impress the other townies?
by Michelle
Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:11 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

falcon45ca wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:05 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:57 pm I AM TOWN!





We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another
@Michelle
Ooo what a scum team there!

I see, keep going, I will have a read for you in 24 hours if you are active enough


EBWOP
by Michelle
Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:09 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

falcon45ca wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:05 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:57 pm I AM TOWN!





We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another
Ooo what a scum team there!

I see, keep going, I will have a read for you in 24 hours if you are active enough

@Michelle
by Michelle
Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:07 pm
Forum: Previous Hustles
Topic: [TOWN WIN] Cool Bug Mafia
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Views: 100229

Re: [D1] Cool Bug Mafia

My reads make sense for me and I believe in what I see and I explained them. I didn't make them to be believable for you Jay and your rush to paint me scum is nagl.

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