The Syndicate

I am going to work.

I don't understand why Rondo sheeped Sean as long as he was alive and switched when he died.
Seems like a pocket who was no longer necessary

I'll say you don't get my lack of understand of Mac's intention in that post

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:39 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:30 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:15 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:55 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:45 am Mother fuckers I knew that something was off. I check thread and one of you asses have killed Seanzie. If it was a hero shot you had better claim soon or I'm just going to murder you regardless of when you claim for such a bad shot. Otherwise if you're a sin you done fucked up

there's no way is a hero shot

I am very queefed by Rondo.

Roxy linked the explanation to that word, i would like you to reformulate.
I also have something to say about Rondo after

I meant what I said

The meaning is not clear for me as a sentence in a mafia game. It doesn't show opinion about alignament or if it's a suspicion or something related to a read.
So please tell me what you meant in other words

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:32 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:30 am Ask me anything, I've got all the facts right here in my meatus.

is sushi a burrito?

No

Why the vote on Mac after Sean died?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:15 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:55 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:45 am Mother fuckers I knew that something was off. I check thread and one of you asses have killed Seanzie. If it was a hero shot you had better claim soon or I'm just going to murder you regardless of when you claim for such a bad shot. Otherwise if you're a sin you done fucked up

there's no way is a hero shot

I am very queefed by Rondo.

Roxy linked the explanation to that word, i would like you to reformulate.
I also have something to say about Rondo after

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:27 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:26 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:24 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:13 amBrutal

Honestly, Michelle feels like she's fallen off

You'll say the same if Nook flips mafia?

I thought you wanted to flip Wilgy?

He's Poe as well.
But my vote is on Nook

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:24 am The post, is me talking about wagonomics in the context of a game that doesn't have strict wolf/town dynamics. You haven't even referred to the actual content of the post in order to take issue with the fact that the 7 sins aren't strictly wolves. Okay, I didn't make the post to make a point that the sins are wolves.

The sins are not town. That's all that matters to me.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:24 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:13 amBrutal

Honestly, Michelle feels like she's fallen off

You'll say the same if Nook flips mafia?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:00 am Slay the outed one!

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

do you have any reads to share with the class?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:45 am Mother fuckers I knew that something was off. I check thread and one of you asses have killed Seanzie. If it was a hero shot you had better claim soon or I'm just going to murder you regardless of when you claim for such a bad shot. Otherwise if you're a sin you done fucked up

there's no way is a hero shot

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:09 am

Dubz wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:04 am Is there a sort of...thread consensus POE so I can prioritize ISOs? I've only really looked at flips and where I was mentioned (will get to that shortly), and I skimmed end of D2 last night.

Dennis is outed. We are looking for more baddies. My eyes are on Nook. I am wary of Falcon and Roxy. People like Jack and Epi deserve more scrutiny IMO, but idk if this is consensus, but I am town KING, so what I say, goes.

Ok King!

Brutal

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:06 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:01 am I know we have to chop Dennis today, but I need a cw so I will
[VOTE: drWilgy] aubergine
and no, Mac is not the cw I want @RondoDimBuckle, @Seanzie

What about Nanook? Unhappy his name isn't being thrown around.

Idk honestly, he can go either way.

He ignored me, that's sus fmpov

I know we have to chop Dennis today, but I need a cw so I will
[VOTE: drWilgy] aubergine
and no, Mac is not the cw I want @RondoDimBuckle, @Seanzie

vc

Morning!
Tutuu died because she break the post limit?
That means the post limit on her was from scum and I was wrong

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:58 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 5:54 pm Wilgy
Epi
Seanzie
Jack
Porscha
Pyxxy

The above are all the people who should be wagons and have votes. Not Tutuu. Not me. Not Doom. Not Falcon. Not Michelle who has now decided to out herself with her omgus lol.

Outside of Porscha, I ain't doing too bad. We can stop picking on Mac for being wrong on Porscha now.

Maybe

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:15 pm We are in World 1

In world 1 everything is just easy and fun

In world 1 the following players are town

Rondo for setup solving
Thunal for wim and hard solving
Nanook for being super towny and probably never killing Zenon
Seanzie for teabagging 2 sins
Jack because he "self confirms" and wolves never claim to do that (do they? lol)

Who else is level 1 AN TOWNIE?

Me, so your world is incomplete

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:28 pm Dennis is outed baddie

DrWilgy is ...

Dubz ... was towny day 1, did they even post day 2? Where's Dubz? Someone was saying he was outed yesterday and I was assuming it was some sort of joke? Dubz got given a Zenon gift on n1 with three votes and then didn't even show up?

Epi is ...

falcon is ... alive ... which is weird

jack "self resolves" so is town

Mac is me, I am Mac

Matahari is ... kind of like ... rand but ... wolfy side of rand ... kinda want SVS to solve Matahari @S~V~S what say you?

Michelle is ... I thought towny for the omgus day 1 but that's too generous. @Thunal33 why u clearin'?

Nanook ... probably wouldn't have killed Zenon and Zenon looks like a fairly clear John Doe kill to me? And he's all level 1 and whatever which is fine. Like whatever townread the guy.

Rondo is all setup solving and stuff and I just think he's town now cuz like why not (HE KNOWS TOO MUCH DONT TRUST HIM).

Roxy is ... kind of like ... rand but ... wolfy side of rand ... kinda want SVS to solve Matahari @S~V~S what say you?

Seanzie teabags evil

S~V~S is a derpcleared IC

I looked at Thunal's ISO to see the thing I'm supposed to see to townread them and I couldn't find it but I'm townreading them now anyway


Sooooo

Thunal wants me to townread Michelle so fine.

Towncore

Thunal
Rondo
Nanook
SVS
Jack
Seanzie

Sussy baka list

Wilgy
Dubz
Falcon
Epi
Matahari
Roxy

We have John Doe and 5 sins left.

There are 6 names there.

If your name is there and you can self clear with mech. Do it.

I liked Roxy, I don't think she deserves the bottom Poe, or Poe at all.
The rest, i agree

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:32 pm Ok I am about to drive to work BUT since I have Mac and Seanzie here AND Thunal and Jack had posted today. I doubt I am going to trap them in anything. Since Kate is now dead I am basically vanilla town. I have no more charges and I have targeted Thunal night one, she could not have performed the night kill. Jack could not have performed the night kill night two

Good to know!

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:35 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:30 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:28 pm Any volunteers?

Wilgy
Dubz
Falcon
Epi
Matahari
Roxy

Target Epi with immediacy. He is the highest value solve in this list imo.

This is a good PoE tbh. I'm increasingly suspicious of Falcon since his solving seems different than I'm used to seeing from him. More appealing to the thread than, say, him throwing out that Splints/Zenon were w/w in Solar System without a care about what everyone else thought.

Falcon did such thing as town in other games
Just saying.
He knows he becomes Poe when he's doing it

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:08 am So far of my POE I think Wilgy and Matahari are scummiest. Dubz is a bit more of a shrug. Roxy is kinda towny.

I'd go Wilgy first

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:17 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:45 am tutuu
3
38%
Voters: Zenon, falcon45ca, RondoDimBuckle


Spicy!!!

Interesting VC Michelle quoted for posterity here. I like that Michelle bothered to do this. It's pretty unlikely that Falcon/Rondo are t/t here.

Why?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:24 am Matahari, Wilgy, Dubz, SVS, Michelle

@Michelle how the hell did you end up voting Tutuu when you were tracking their wagon and sussing it throughout day 1?

@DrWilgy you really should have known better than to vote out Tutuu day 1. How am I take that as anything other than you just trying to remove a threat? Tutuu is a goat tier townie and you just lazily threw your voice behind getting rid of Tutuu day 1? What gives?

The two villagers voting there at least had reasons. Self pres, and Doom was adamant Porscha was town. The rest if you need to explain why you were voting Tutuu over Porscha?

It's easy. Paranoia.
Sorry @tutuu

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:28 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 8:06 pm Reading me town for saying hi and for omgus it's also not very good, tutuu, and you have some dunno I could find a read for so why don't you have a read for them? Nook for eg, posted enough to deserve a read

I can see that you were thinking that Tutuu was sus because the consensus indicated it therefore there must have been something to it.

I can believe this perspective from you. It's kind of organic.

But now that we know it was bullshit, and I was pretty adamant I was seeing normal town Tutuu, I still want to torch every Tutuu voter who didn't have a reasonable perspective to be doing it. So off I go to find some victims. You aren't it.

Ok daddy Mac, but don't tunnel me, I am too busy to handle it today

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:29 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:49 am Wolfy 4th vote on Tutuu.

Have a nice day.

This was Wilgy's vote.

He left it there. All day.

He's not town.

So it's Dennis and after is Wilgy?
We can go Wilgy first, just saying

I am tired and alone here
I have to sleep

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:50 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:42 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:37 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 12:23 pm Why are there 9 on Kate?

Asking in a non-partnered way.

lmao nook posted exactly like this when we were wolfing together and lily got mech outed

putting nook in the sin bin

Why he felt the need to say 'non-partnered way'?

Agree, it looks suspicious

"Asking in a non-partnered way."
bit is NAI imo for nook

"Why are there 9 on Kate?"
is what I really think is sus nook behavior

although now I'm rereading my ol' pal nook and actually I think not knowing anything is maybe townie, but showing up to know a thing is what was bad
search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&t=24 ... d=665&ch=0

consider me taking nook out of the auto-sin bin :/ hm

Nook goes as scum with slight derping and not always showing care about the game, in a towny way, so he is hard to read.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (56) and around 20 posts today without any solving intent doesn't look so good for me to put him out of the sins pool

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:40 pm oh wait that was just posted and there's no one here

ignore pls

Can't ignore, sorry about that ^^

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:37 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 12:23 pm Why are there 9 on Kate?

Asking in a non-partnered way.

lmao nook posted exactly like this when we were wolfing together and lily got mech outed

putting nook in the sin bin

Why he felt the need to say 'non-partnered way'?

Agree, it looks suspicious

From the OP

There are no hammers; votes may be changed at any time.

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

Dubz wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 8:50 pm Oh it was falcon

@falcon45ca @MacDougall pls discuss your disparate reads on Michelle, thank you

Why is this important for you?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:53 am Kate told Seanzie she tracked Greed but wouldn't tell him who it was.

Seanzie has mech knowledge Kate was Lust.

I track Kate to Dennis. It tells Seanzie who it is.

I'm top scumread? Why just give up? Why not just claim I'm lying or something? Why doesn't Dennis just claim Kate lied to Seanzie about him being Greed? Why do are they both ok with death?

How did Seanzie know Kate was Lust in the first place? N0 action? I need answers.

Iso-ing Thunal i found this.

The thing is, no one is John Doe, they're all sins.

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:49 pm Yall are boring

I'm all alone

I hate this game.

Spoiler: show

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:50 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:48 am This weekend is not for mafia, I will be here in the afternoon (12 hours or so)

For any questions, ping me

Mac, I agree a low poster is hard to read but if that’s the way Matahari plays is even harder to make a choice.

Do you know about Kate, Dennis and Dubz?

I figured there's something about Kate and Dennis but i know nothing abt Dubz
You can tell me

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:35 pm The worst thing about mafia players is that most of you have the emotional intelligence of a pebble and act like you're super empaths who function on raw crystal energy with unflappable self control but become toxic hypocrites the minute the mirror gets held up to you. At least I know I'm an emotionally volatile piece of shit and try to compensate for it.

This weekend is not for mafia, I will be here in the afternoon (12 hours or so)

For any questions, ping me

Mac, I agree a low poster is hard to read but if that’s the way Matahari plays is even harder to make a choice.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:20 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:18 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 8:55 pm Tutuu is either town or exactly John Doe.

Tutuu is town. Her sus on you is hella towny.

Tutuu being town is the world I want to believe in and yes I do.

It is a coin flip for me though

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 7:44 pm I tracked Kate to Dennis n1. I'm an odd night tracker.

Unvote

There's a hammer in this game?

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 4:42 amAnd alone

Some ppl have to work unfortunately....

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:09 am well congratulations Michelle at least I know you're town now

This is false meta and you know it.
I am not pocketed.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:10 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:32 am [VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

Also I will vote tutuu whenever the wagon rises. These are my main scum read in this game

you hit me with a lot of incorrect stuff there and if you want me to bother explaining how I'm gonna need you to demonstrate it's worth my energy doing so

Demonstration for what? I saw your intention pretty clear until now.
Save your energy, sure.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:11 am I will give you a free glimpse

you told me I ignored the matahari vote and then quoted me talking about the matahari vote

definition of confbiased

Where is your analysis about Matahari?
There's none.
Zero interest in solving the slot.

So Jack is town for you because of vibes?
Noted

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:35 am The answer to your why's is

*shrugs* vibes

The answer to "if I were wolf..." is. I would actually tell you what I'd do as I did it as wolf. Cause I find it fun. I do it as town to though.

That wasn't about you, was about Mac and I figured that much, having fun is something I always agree with

VC

Aand sorry for the wallie

@Jackofhearts2005 when you got bored of talking about that movie and come back to the game of mafia pls ping me

[VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

Also I will vote tutuu whenever the wagon rises. These are my main scum read in this game

Morning! Congrats for pushing the town cop Mac, and in general showing no real solve itg and receiving town reads for that.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 10:10 pm I got a note last night that said "It will be wise to not talk much today." I'm worried if I reach an unknown post or word count I'll die so I'll work behind the scenes. I think those were t/t wagons and I think Mac is pushing people who are easy instead of caring if it's right.

[VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

Totally agree with the vote.
Don't let his activity let him off the hook, his reasons to push people are extremely wolfy

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:07 pm Zenon
Jack
Tutuu

Towncore

Let's do towncore things

Why for anyone in there?

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:12 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:05 pm Blind faith in myself in all scenarios is the way.

ZENON IS PRIDE

how is she not pride

She keeps repeating this

And epi confirmed existence of forced gimmick/roleplay/post restriction related to sins

How you reach this conclusion?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:13 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:12 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:05 pm Blind faith in myself in all scenarios is the way.

ZENON IS PRIDE

how is she not pride

She keeps repeating this

And epi confirmed existence of forced gimmick/roleplay/post restriction related to sins

that's pretty interesting...

if epi had to talk about ALL of them doesn't that just make him >rand John Doe.

And that would be what Epi with his life and game experience is doing?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:17 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:04 pm ngl how Doom has been treating me all game I am probably never going to come around to them being town

if we are looking for someone who found Doom's presence problematic try this on

DOOM's pushes weren't strong enough to become problematic for a player like Rondo.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:18 pm I also found Rondo generally unusual and wolfy d1 fwiw.

Tell me who plays like usual in this game. These level zero reasons make little sense to me and allow you to push everyone. How is this scumhunting?

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:30 pm

Spoiler: show

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 10:53 pm Earlier, I was made to post in ways that alluded to the seven deadly sins.

If you will notice, my first post was lust, my second (to S~V~S) was envy, etc.

Hope I didn't offend anyone. I am free to post normally.

My probable post limit is so hard since I have so many things to say.

To Epi: I'm just laughing at this because I did get a little frustrated about the draft posts and I can't believe I never thought of it. No hard feelings, I think it's funny now.

To explain my Mac argument, I think Mac did scumread Porscha. I also think there's a pattern of Mac not giving his suspects breathing room, first with Michelle and then with Porscha. I think the degree of confidence in the Porscha push was misplaced since both me and him know that Porscha has taken awhile to show herself as town sometimes. I get the sense that he was trying to force his reads to happen soon to try to be the town hero, rather than letting his reads happen naturally and actually being a hero. Do I think this necessarily makes him a scum? No, but I think it increases the chances.

Also my Falcon townread that I felt so proud of might not be as good as I thought it was. That same towntell of being paranoid about semi-unrelated things just failed me when I used it on Wiml in his champs game that prematurely ended. It's not out of the question to think Falcon, as a 3p/wolf, happened to notice Tutuu's picture didn't match her description and tried to make a read off it. I still townlean Falcon for his general approach and that he appears unconcerned with how he's perceived.

About the Doom kill, it is weird but I think a weird kill is more likely than redirection. There was probably 1 mafia in the game n1 and ime when 1 mafia is in charge wtf kills are more common. As far as who would do it, if I had to guess it would be Matahari. Doom mainly suspected her voters and Porscha voters but I think people who are present would know that Doom doesn't have any thread pull. Matahari might go "oh, Doom called me out, she could be a threat". I'm looking at her ISO rn and she seems too agreeable, specifically her backing off Doom when Zenon said she was town which is also another point of paranoia for me. From Matahari's limited POV, Doom both suspected her and was extremely in her town meta and so would make sense as an NK.

I think I'd rather go here.

[VOTE: Matahari ] aubergine

I agree with this push.
Noted how Mac ignored it

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:33 pm how did I not give Michelle breathing room?

how did I not give Porscha breathing room?

what are you even talking about?

I have scumread
I explain it

With Michelle I did nothing at all that looked like not giving her breathing room

With Porscha I made a case and then left the thread entirely

9 people followed it

What is it that I should have done instead if I have a reason for suspecting someone?

I'll tell you how your push on me went.
Naked vote
Put me lowest in reads list
No real reason
High confidence all time
Backtracking when the wagon vanished
It's not like you didn't give me space to breath, no, but you didn't care about my alignament at all.
About Porscha, yes, your push was exactly suffocating her. Shrugging at people sheeping you is nagl

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:34 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:20 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:16 pm Rondo is the other slot who would have a tangible reason to kill Doom based on day 1.

Yeah i had the same thought and hes scum regardless imo

Wait i forgot im supposed to not post a lot. Ok ill post .. no more than 50 times today

Unless im poe - then i can post a lot and maybe that kills me if u guys want me dead i still dunno if im poe or towncore or what lmao

You can be my guinea pig lol. You seem not dead so I'll say I can post at least as many times as you.

As long as she is still alive, is safe to assume you can post as much.
Also, you're my sanity pillar, please share your thoughts

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:35 pm The notion I'm suspicious because I scumread Porscha and Michelle and gave them no breathing room is so bizarre to me.

Firstly, whether I did or didn't who gives a crap. If I think I have a good argument to suspect someone it's literally my responsibility as a villager to vocalise it.

Secondly, it's completely bullshit lol.

You had zero arguments to suspect me.
Also the 'Porscha plays like wolf Porscha' reason for the push was extremely bad and out of logic because it was PR Porscha playing and you could think at it and clear the Poe elsewhere.
Like now, when you talk about killing for level zero arguments, you let aside a lot of slots and choose Rondo because of the Wifom-y idea that Doom was dangerous for Rondo.
Really?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:36 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:31 pm Doom kill is 100% a kill I'd make as wolf.

If I was a solo mafia and had one single kill to make n1 I kill Kate.

If I were a wolf I would... -.-

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:41 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:39 pm what's the deal with post cap tutuu?

I shouldnt say this coz my posts my limited but ill say that me and thunal-sama were both hit by the same post restriction as we claimed in our first posts at sod ok i hit submit now

Do you think mafia would post restrict you when your D1 was mainly all caps and disrupting the thread flow?
I take the action to restrict you as the towniest itg
I still love you tutuu, but you make my radar go wild in this game and I think you are a sin and should be chopped.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:45 pm I'm just gonna find wolfy players and basically wolfy solves and try to kill as many of those as I can whole trying to avoid killing any more villagers lol

You failed. You have the wolfiest solve/ thinking process

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:51 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:33 pm how did I not give Michelle breathing room?

how did I not give Porscha breathing room?

what are you even talking about?

I have scumread
I explain it

With Michelle I did nothing at all that looked like not giving her breathing room

With Porscha I made a case and then left the thread entirely

9 people followed it

What is it that I should have done instead if I have a reason for suspecting someone?

With Porscha it was about you trying to convince everyone to get on her and get her eliminated with things like saying she's naked mafia and her not having posts outside her wolf range when she is sometimes a slow starter. I know I tried a similar push on Porscha a couple games ago (solar system) as a wolf so I know that she can be easily pushable for "not being obvious town". Breathing room might not be the right word for it but it was what I thought of. As far as Michelle, it was with how few posts she had for you to make a fairly confident wolf read on her despite her saying she was busy irl at the time.

My fear is that you called both of them not town with high confidence and did a lot to convince others when both Michelle and Porscha are players that sometimes take awhile to get started. I'm cooling on you somewhat after rereading your post about probability since there's definitely a town Mac explanation for both pushes as well and they were likely genuine regardless of alignment. My suspicion is that you'd be more hasty with the pushes as non-town.

Scum Mac will always mimic town Mac to an extent and power wolfing from there.
I don't trust Mac this game.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 12:06 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:47 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:45 pm I'm just gonna find wolfy players and basically wolfy solves and try to kill as many of those as I can whole trying to avoid killing any more villagers lol

Because wolfs aren't the only ones who play wolfy. Town does too. A lot. Arguably moreso.

And I like analyzing more than base 0 info. Other wise just like hammer and go home.

There is a time for trying to overthink things and it's not here yet... whoever is around in the mid to late game can worry about that shit... our job is to just make sure that by then the game isn't a complete mess and removing all the level 0 and level 1 shit while you can is important to that.

I'm not saying Porscha was that mind you. But the likes of solving Matahari and avoiding making wifom overthinking defenses of wolfy slots like Rondo are.

Porscha wasn't, I am not, and you didn't care to find out our alignament at all.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 12:14 am

Spoiler: show

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:51 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:33 pm how did I not give Michelle breathing room?

how did I not give Porscha breathing room?

what are you even talking about?

I have scumread
I explain it

With Michelle I did nothing at all that looked like not giving her breathing room

With Porscha I made a case and then left the thread entirely

9 people followed it

What is it that I should have done instead if I have a reason for suspecting someone?

With Porscha it was about you trying to convince everyone to get on her and get her eliminated with things like saying she's naked mafia and her not having posts outside her wolf range when she is sometimes a slow starter. I know I tried a similar push on Porscha a couple games ago (solar system) as a wolf so I know that she can be easily pushable for "not being obvious town". Breathing room might not be the right word for it but it was what I thought of. As far as Michelle, it was with how few posts she had for you to make a fairly confident wolf read on her despite her saying she was busy irl at the time.

My fear is that you called both of them not town with high confidence and did a lot to convince others when both Michelle and Porscha are players that sometimes take awhile to get started. I'm cooling on you somewhat after rereading your post about probability since there's definitely a town Mac explanation for both pushes as well and they were likely genuine regardless of alignment. My suspicion is that you'd be more hasty with the pushes as non-town.

Here's the explanation.

Michelle felt wolfy so I pressured her and then she got all reeeeally Mac omgussed me and I stopped cuz that's generally how town Michelle reacts..

I confbiased Porscha as mafia cuz I recently had solved her as town and she wasn't yet in her town meta. I pushed her and 9 ppl sheeped me. She waited until <60 minutes from eod and after I left the thread to present herself as having a pulse so she died.

Notiing of the sort. You never pressured me. Not a single post adressed at me was there to make you figure where my head is.
Besides my posts weren't wolfy, and you didn't change your reads when I omgussed you, you changed when my wagon vanished.
So your post here is a lie.
Porscha waited to show herself towny? What?

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 12:44 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 12:41 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 12:34 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 12:32 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 12:25 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 12:18 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 12:15 am

Enjoy being alive day 5 with all the level 1 wolfy slots in every game then.

I actually quite enjoy it when I win and the wolfy towns aren't dead so

this has never happened has it zenon

Actually quite often recently

And if I wasn't a little dumb bitch town Porscha would still be here

alright give me the list of names of people I'm not allowed to chop cuz you think they're possible miselims

Zenon
Kate
Macdougall
DrWilgy
falcon45ca
jackofhearts2005
Michelle
Dubz
Thunal33
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME


This

Why Mac? Why Dubz? Why Jack?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 1:26 am Recruitment game.

Zenon and tutuu following MacDougall on Rondo.

You all do what you want with that.

I think Zenon is town and tutuu a sin
What's your read for them?

Porscha
10
42%
Voters: tutuu, MacDougall, RondoDimBuckle, Roxy, Zenon, Jackofhearts2005, Thunal33, Dennis, Kate, falcon45ca

tutuu
7
29%
Voters: Matahari, Porscha, DrWilgy, DaughterOfOmega, Dubz, S~V~S, Michelle

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:56 pm No rands

Cool

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:53 pm I'm town spewed at this point

How come?

Porscha
8
35%
Voters: tutuu, MacDougall, Zenon, Jackofhearts2005, Thunal33, Dennis, Kate, falcon45ca

tutuu
8
35%
Voters: Matahari, Porscha, DrWilgy, DaughterOfOmega, RondoDimBuckle, Dubz, S~V~S, Michelle

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:50 pm I don't like both of these wagons and it makes me wonder if one or more of Mac/Kate are bad.

Actually my old read on Mac is for his push on me and later some analysis he made was debatable, but I never read all game so why he doesn't have any other vote?

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:48 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:46 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:43 pm [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

I think Tutuu is town. I don't necessarily think Porscha is scum.

I can understand that.
I am not on town teritory with neither of them
Tell me more about tutuu
Why is she nervous if town?

I didn't necessarily get nervous from her, I more got that she doesn't want to die which any alignment doesn't. I think the appealing to Kate is just something town think of way more often and I think her not wanting to CFD because she's going to be resolved anyway leans towny.

I think that's pockety

Porscha
7
30%
Voters: tutuu, MacDougall, Zenon, Jackofhearts2005, Thunal33, Kate, falcon45ca

tutuu
7
30%
Voters: Matahari, DrWilgy, DaughterOfOmega, RondoDimBuckle, Dubz, S~V~S, Michelle

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:43 pm [VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

I think Tutuu is town. I don't necessarily think Porscha is scum.

I can understand that.
I am not on town teritory with neither of them
Tell me more about tutuu
Why is she nervous if town?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:41 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:40 pm @MacDougall you here?
Tell me about your read on tutuu
And why did you switch the read on me?

You conveniently showed up after Mac left

Is 4:43 i woke up when I posted

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:40 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:35 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:16 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 7:20 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:33 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:18 pm I dunno what I'm apparently missing with tutuu here but I'm seeing normal tutuu lol.

I went back and looked at her day one in Crossover, and it was so so different than this. This looks like OT Discord Tutuu, not like townie baddie hunting Tutuu.

Kate wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 5:03 pm I got some yucky feels on wilgy and I'm uber surprised no one else is talking about this.

I'm caught up reading and I feel no better about tutuu.

In summary:
wilgy
Tutuu

Explain yucky feelings? I felt the opposite. You prolly recall, I had a chance to play bad Wilgy and civvie Wilgy pretty much simultaneously in your Meta Game (he was bad) and Hot Dog Fingers. After he killed me in Meta, and I found he was bad, I was able to contrast him clearly in HDF since I had been reading him the opposite of reality. He was only posting in the word 'yes' or maybe 'no' in HDF, but when I did something he didn't like, he was super clear about it. Crystal. His reply (spoilered below) to Pyxxy about his vote 'feels' the exact same way to me.

So tell me what you see that I don't.

Spoiler: show

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 5:37 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 11:20 am

Does Pyxxy legitimately think that voting me would suddenly turn a post that should be NAI to a post that should be NAI? How does your voting me ACTUALLY make a difference here?

I wasn't giving you anything AI in the first place.

@RondoDimBuckle , since you were asking about pee pee this AM, this post makes me feel OK about Wilgy, this is the kind of snappy remark he made to me when I voted for him in HDF for a weak reason. He was doing his Wilgy thing, then he snapped to attention and rebuked me for saying something dopey. Just like this post ^^. As opposed to Meta, where he had me pocketed so hard I'm still picking lint from my hair.

I went back and skimmed Tutuu in Wwerecreatures, because I thought she was similar there, but, nah, I was wrong. She was hard civving there from the get go. Is changing up her game a thing she does? Plus earlier today she was doing that thing that looked like flinging the shit to see what sticks. But we have more than half the day to go, I'd like to hear more from her before I pile on.

Kate wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 5:31 pm

I wish i had any reason to take a math or chemistry class.



Go take it if you want, go to your local community college and take courses. I started taking some lit and history classes just for fun. You don't need a reason.

I have to go do something for about 45 mins (loving this retirement ) and I'll pull the post but it was under the Simpson on the bus and the falcon is town sign and he spoke about 'TMI.'

I think that was a derp. If he's scum without TMI, I don't think he would believe something is a TMI pocket attempt.

But what if he's a scum WITH TMI?

It's possible, but it's also possible he's town that didn't read the setup.

Mafia can not read the setup as well, especially when is complicated.
That's why derp clears are wrong

@MacDougall you here?
Tell me about your read on tutuu
And why did you switch the read on me?