The Syndicate

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:38 am Ok well I'm catching up gosh

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:37 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:32 am

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:09 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:04 am

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:55 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:52 am

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:49 am

Me and Mac discussed how Creature was being wolfy I hardly came up with the shot on my own. Not a single person in this game when asked why Creature is town gave me an answer I asked multiple times.

I shot a wolfy target so you can take your indignation somewhere else you don't get to get angry at me for taking a shot on someone who soft defended Seanzie and moved off wagon at the end of the day.

You don't get to make me feel like shit for shooting a town. Sorry mate this is wolfy as fuck.

I read only 100 posts in all game and I know nutella answered with a TR.
Why didn't you notice that?

I don't need to agree with every town read.

I don't need to worship the grounds nutella or Mac walk on.

You all act like these players can't be wrong. Read Creatures EoD and explain to me how the FUCK is towny. Nobody can because it's not. I'm not here to be made to feel bad for shooting someone I spent an entire day looking for answers on. I spent the whole day trying to figure out Creature and none of you gave me answers so don't play this game.

You wanted me to shoot a Rondo who is most likely just town so you don't get to act like this because I thought Rondo was towny at eod

What? No, i certainly didn't ask for a shot on Rondo where this idea comes from?

He was PoE you keep yelling at me for not shooting in the PoE no?

Not my Poe, i think your top TRs have a solid Poe, right?

He was in towns PoE at EoD

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:13 am I'm sorry for getting upset. And for over reacting.

I'm tired of being told I am shit whenever I have a gun in mafia. I get told it every time even if I kill wolfs.

Nobody told me why Creature was town. It's cool you think he was but you didn't tell me that when I asked and I get your busy so that's cool but neither did anyone else.

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:09 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:04 am

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:55 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:52 am

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:49 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:34 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:32 am

Yeah just be 100% accurate literally every time /s

Not really but that was a hero shot if she is town
Not a Poe shot

Me and Mac discussed how Creature was being wolfy I hardly came up with the shot on my own. Not a single person in this game when asked why Creature is town gave me an answer I asked multiple times.

I shot a wolfy target so you can take your indignation somewhere else you don't get to get angry at me for taking a shot on someone who soft defended Seanzie and moved off wagon at the end of the day.

You don't get to make me feel like shit for shooting a town. Sorry mate this is wolfy as fuck.

I read only 100 posts in all game and I know nutella answered with a TR.
Why didn't you notice that?

I don't need to agree with every town read.

I don't need to worship the grounds nutella or Mac walk on.

You all act like these players can't be wrong. Read Creatures EoD and explain to me how the FUCK is towny. Nobody can because it's not. I'm not here to be made to feel bad for shooting someone I spent an entire day looking for answers on. I spent the whole day trying to figure out Creature and none of you gave me answers so don't play this game.

You wanted me to shoot a Rondo who is most likely just town so you don't get to act like this because I thought Rondo was towny at eod

What? No, i certainly didn't ask for a shot on Rondo where this idea comes from?

He was PoE you keep yelling at me for not shooting in the PoE no?

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:03 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:02 am

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:57 am I expect people who sign up for mafia to play the game.

And if they aren't going to read I don't want them to accuse people of things that are already disproven.

There is no 2nd mafia team.

I play at 100% when i can
This game should start 2 weeks before. Meanwhile my life get more busy and i still want to play my favourite alignament and role in this game.
If i start to read i finish reading on Easter maybe, i am a slow reader, but town usually helps each other.
Dismount your high horse and explain me why if you afe town

Nah.

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:55 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:52 am

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:49 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:34 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:32 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:31 am

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:22 am Look I get that my range is insane and that I have a better wolf game than a town game but like jfc what do I have to do to not have suspicion as town lol

You can start by not shooting townies

Yeah just be 100% accurate literally every time /s

Not really but that was a hero shot if she is town
Not a Poe shot

Me and Mac discussed how Creature was being wolfy I hardly came up with the shot on my own. Not a single person in this game when asked why Creature is town gave me an answer I asked multiple times.

I shot a wolfy target so you can take your indignation somewhere else you don't get to get angry at me for taking a shot on someone who soft defended Seanzie and moved off wagon at the end of the day.

You don't get to make me feel like shit for shooting a town. Sorry mate this is wolfy as fuck.

I read only 100 posts in all game and I know nutella answered with a TR.
Why didn't you notice that?

I don't need to agree with every town read.

I don't need to worship the grounds nutella or Mac walk on.

You all act like these players can't be wrong. Read Creatures EoD and explain to me how the FUCK is towny. Nobody can because it's not. I'm not here to be made to feel bad for shooting someone I spent an entire day looking for answers on. I spent the whole day trying to figure out Creature and none of you gave me answers so don't play this game.

You wanted me to shoot a Rondo who is most likely just town so you don't get to act like this because I thought Rondo was towny at eod

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:57 am I expect people who sign up for mafia to play the game.

And if they aren't going to read I don't want them to accuse people of things that are already disproven.

There is no 2nd mafia team.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:50 am And thirdly, because I think she should be in the PoE, and needs decent examination today.

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:51 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:49 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:36 am if u want to say shes a wolf for it then sure go ahead but like meh

If she is different wolf team, sure, she can be.

I don't know if the multiball theory is proved wrong

People really need to read the thread before accusing people of nonsense

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:49 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:34 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:32 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:31 am

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:22 am Look I get that my range is insane and that I have a better wolf game than a town game but like jfc what do I have to do to not have suspicion as town lol

You can start by not shooting townies

Yeah just be 100% accurate literally every time /s

Not really but that was a hero shot if she is town
Not a Poe shot

Me and Mac discussed how Creature was being wolfy I hardly came up with the shot on my own. Not a single person in this game when asked why Creature is town gave me an answer I asked multiple times.

I shot a wolfy target so you can take your indignation somewhere else you don't get to get angry at me for taking a shot on someone who soft defended Seanzie and moved off wagon at the end of the day.

You don't get to make me feel like shit for shooting a town. Sorry mate this is wolfy as fuck.

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:47 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:31 am

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:22 am Look I get that my range is insane and that I have a better wolf game than a town game but like jfc what do I have to do to not have suspicion as town lol

You can start by not shooting townies

...I shot someone being wolfy and I won't apologize for it

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:36 am if u want to say shes a wolf for it then sure go ahead but like meh

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:40 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:00 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:43 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:12 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:04 am Radishes is scum as well.

Good to know

How do you figure

Why are you curious?

Wanted to know why you had a thought, as mafia goes lol

Quick note this was a very weird interaction from michelle

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:40 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:58 am After reading Alison's scotty interactions I don't think he is her partner.

I agree. I think 112 and Michelle are better choices for the PoE.

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:34 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:34 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:32 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:31 am

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:22 am Look I get that my range is insane and that I have a better wolf game than a town game but like jfc what do I have to do to not have suspicion as town lol

You can start by not shooting townies

Yeah just be 100% accurate literally every time /s

Not really but that was a hero shot if she is town
Not a Poe shot

... on... sabi?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:19 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:14 am Idk what's wrong in Mac"s wall but it makes the posts in italics -.-

It's probably not easy for you to follow.

Non italics is me
Italics is a different me
Talking to myself

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:32 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:31 am

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:22 am Look I get that my range is insane and that I have a better wolf game than a town game but like jfc what do I have to do to not have suspicion as town lol

You can start by not shooting townies

Yeah just be 100% accurate literally every time /s

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:22 am Look I get that my range is insane and that I have a better wolf game than a town game but like jfc what do I have to do to not have suspicion as town lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:18 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:12 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:09 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:01 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:59 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:56 am Dyslexicon
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Voters: EnderWiggin

Why @EnderWiggin ?

Pushing buttons because I might have just been wrong on Rondo and the answer if that's true is that my worldview has been skewed.

That's exactly why i wanted to talk about reads.
I have the feeling our read on Rondo is wrong.
Paranoia is there but the logic says we are most probably wrong

Throw me any question you got, I'm still mulling things over.

Is Neon town?

Why, does this keep coming up?

Why are we prosecuting a hyperposting Neon who is wearing their thoughts as a hat and who SHOT A WOLF.

Why? Do I keep seeing this?

In a game where we have about 10 slots that all could justifiably be town vigged and nobody would care? Why are we pushing Neon?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:09 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:01 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:59 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:56 am Dyslexicon
1
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Voters: EnderWiggin

Why @EnderWiggin ?

Pushing buttons because I might have just been wrong on Rondo and the answer if that's true is that my worldview has been skewed.

That's exactly why i wanted to talk about reads.
I have the feeling our read on Rondo is wrong.
Paranoia is there but the logic says we are most probably wrong

Throw me any question you got, I'm still mulling things over.

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:05 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:56 am

Spoiler: show

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:34 am Ladies and gentlemen, a world first. I am going to let you into the mind of Macdougall like never before ... it's TRUSTFALL TIME, featuring, myself arguing with myself! I do hope to entertain you!

If this player was town, what would be the reason? And why is that argument really shit at the same time?

112 - 112 has felt like a player who has no teammates. They seem to lack TMI. They also shielded Hollowkatt early on, who has at least a small amount of Alison spew going for him.
Sure but they are also not trying to solve the game, and can be a level 1 slankwolf.
That is true, they are probably fairly hard null without closer analysis.
I would agree!

DrWilgy - DrWilgy's posts have not actively pinged me, or anyone really. There's nobody in the game who seems to have an axe to grind and wants to push him.
Yes, and why haven't the wolves actually drawn attention to his lack of production. What is the benefit to the mafia of not attempting to make someone who is not present a viable option.
Honestly the mafia have had their work cut out for them dealing with a fairly robust town, yesterday there was mafia in the POE and they died, it's not like they really would have felt all that comfortable trying to bring attention to new candidates in a way that was very persuasive.
True, you may have a point. Perhaps it's worth checking if anyone at all attempted to make Wilgy a suspect. Because I'd expect at least a LITTLE nibble at it from Alison or another wolf or two.
Agreed!

Dyslexicon - Dyslexicon has acted at times like a voice of reason. They are quite a calming influence on the thread.
But they tried to save Seanzie and undermine your push on Alison.
Yes well that also is probably a bit too sloppy for a wolf of Dyslexicon's skill level.
That's being generous, Dyslexicon is a good wolf, and good wolves understand that defending mafia teammmates when you have credibility is the most +ev thing you can do as a wolf)
You may have a point my good sir!

EnderWiggin - Ender has seemed to sincerely believe that Rondo is mafia. He has made that his near permanent axe to grind, and regardless of Rondo's alignment, Rondo's point of that boxing Ender in in the event of his flip being town, is a good one.
Yes but Rondo is town, and Ender has done nothing but push a town, which is wolfy, again you're being too generous.
Maybe so, maybe so.

falcon45ca - Falcon has had really good reads. He's pushed many of the wolves and isn't really doing so from a deepwolf position.
He's done this before.
True.
It's literally how he wins games as mafia. He has one of the highest mafia winrates on Syndicate.
Yeah but you're being paranoid. He just has good reads.
Does he really have this good of a radar as town, he's hardly posted so he's probably paid no attention to the game. Why are his reads so good?


Golden - Golden's wim and level of solving is very high. He is probably just town on play. He also has some pretty good Alison antispew going for him.
He also worked pretty hard to try to get SVS over instead of Seanzie (and probably other wolves), and SVS is probably town. He also was a strong supporter of Alison being in the towncore.
Seanzie also didn't try to push SVS when she was quite viable, and Alison also didn't push SVS when she could have ... you also thought Alison was town for the most part. Golden showed some signs of scepticism towards Alison, and he also openly conflicted with her on Kate.
Well... we'll get to SVS later. I think it's probably mostly paranoia to continue suspecting Golden so imma let it go.

Guillotine - He's in his town meta. I don't think he has TMI.
Alison literally pulled him out of your POE. He pushed you egregiously. His interactions with Rondo when they were both pushing you were super unusual.
Yeah she pulled him out but didn't pull Seanzie out because she was the assigned deepwolf of the team and had a pass to bus and townside.
Plausible, yet ... no just plausible honestly.

hollowkatt - Alison tried to persuade you to drop your townshield, which she did successfully, but she didn't push him, which means she was probably doing so in order to get YOU to push HK, which you did, not PUSH him herself, which if she wanted him to get actual pressure, she would do herself so she could get the cred, not leave you with the dirty hands. Also he got super mad and told someone to fuck off.
Hahaha... yeah I got nothing. This argument is solid.

Kate - Kate has okay tone and a shield from Golden that probably should be just sheeped. Also Alison tried to kill her.
Again... point well made.

Lilypetal - Every time Lily is around and someone says anything mean to me she defends me.
She would do that as mafia because you're pocketable and if she pushed you you'd be inclined to see right through it cuz she townreads you accurately all the time, she's done no hunting as town. She is squarely in her wolf meta.
Yeah... when u rite u rite homes.

Macdougall - You are extremely high wim in this game, and in a game that you should be taking a break from mafia in and phoning in which you were at the start, but your enthusiasm for this silly game has meant you cannot help yourself and have lost it, again, this is why this will be the last game you play for a long long time. But it's also very obvious you are town because you are a very significant reason that the mafia lost Seanzie yesterday, Alison is clearly not your partner and you have good spew with Sabi that had no theatre to it. You're obvious mafia, and town with paranoia towards you for fooling them so many times, plus the wolves/3p slots, are the only one really saying otherwise so you can probably stop worrying about it, nobody is going to flip you.
Thanks dad.

Marmot - I think Marmot was an attempted CFD at the last minute that wolves participated in.
He is not out of his wolf range.
His solving has been quite good when he's had the time. Nutella has a great instinct read on Marmot and shielded him hard and died.
Yep. Marmot is town.

master radishes - Radishes feels like a man without a team. He just sort of wanders in, laments not knowing what to do and then tries to figure out where to go. It's agendaless.
Well... you are describing a wolf. Where is his town intent?
Hmmm.
He also voted Marmot at EOD over Seanzie.
Hmmm.

Michelle - She literally just sheeped me all day until like the end and then voted Scotty. I mean I can have bad reads but the amount she did it, she was doing that instead of really attempting to pursue a wolf wincon.
Or a town one. She was trying to pocket you. She's done very little aside from try to pocket you. She ended up voting Scotty who is spewed clear from Alison.
I'm not sure that spew is very reliable.
Maybe not, but you shouldn't trust her. And Alison was actually shielding her with a misrep meta read saying she "wears her alignment on her sleeve" and is in her obvious town meta when you and i both know that she is not actually in her town meta at all.
True, maybe the wolves have all banded together from jump street and said "we're just pocketing Mac". Seanzie completely ignored pushing me which he like never does, Alison shielded me, Sabi pushed me a LITTLE bit but a lot less than usual and I also was pushing her. Maybe it's their entire agenda and why you're alive?
Now you get it!

Neon - Neon shot, an wolf, and has been otherwise shielding you.
Well if the wolf team's agenda is to pocket you, here's one.
Shot, an wolf.
Yes, yes. True. We let those skate. (unless they're sig).

Party Crasher - Lots of good solving from some of the heads, Hydra dissonance, Tutuu being all CFD happy the way she was isn't damning, and Marmot isn't clear so I can't hold that against her. Today particularly vibey solving.
Their solving today was predicated on something that ended up being provably wrong. Your overnight solving had them as lock mafia. Go back there moron.
Hmmm. Okay!

Porscha - Porscha is town.
I agree. Porscha is town.

RondoDimBuckle - Alison tried to chain him to the very specific universe in which Seanzie flipped mafia KP. Seanzie tried to make him the counterwagon.
True, I have no doubt anymore that Rondo is town either. Also maybe Seanzie sticking here and not trying to participate in teh Marmot C/W actually means Marmot was a hit too, maybe the CFD voters are all town?
Plausible. Plausible...

S~V~S - SVS voted you, you could have shot her.
She might be gambitting. In the end you couldn't shoot her cuz she was the only one that voted you.
That's true, Scotty really should have been voting me at EOD and found a reason not to. He's just mafia.
I really do think he is, and Alison spew is unreliable, but this is about SVS.
Yes I think if Scotty is mafia, SVS is probably mafia?
I would agree. They are teammates if one is wolf so too is the other.


Scotty - Alison spew?
Is unreliable, didn't vote you after trying to persuade everyone to vote you. Tried to save Seanzie.
Marmot can be mafia here.
Yes it is actually becoming rather likely that Marmot/Scotty is a w/t dichotomy, and SVS's alignment also hinges on Scott. SVS's alignment will actually tell a fair bit about this game.
I agree.

sig - Sig shot Alison. The end.
Sig is in his wolf meta. He townread her. He can't shoot someone he townreads that's egregious.
He shot Alison. There is no second mafia team. At best he's 3p.
True.
And also you actually think he's in his town meta why are you telling yourself he's in his wolf meta.
Well he's in his wolf meta in terms of his contribution and impact but his actual play has lots of his town notes, paranoia, entitlement.
Yup, so he's a townread.
Yeah i guess so. That's an amazing vig shot. I can scarcely believe he made it.
He is right when he says he plays vig like that. You've seen it.

Sloonei - He's just like thread dad with no agenda.
So he's an obvious 3p lol.
... true actually haha.

Urist - He's been pro mac and seems to believe his reads.
Yeaaaaaaah but he voted Rondo instead of Seanzie, and has been non stop pushing Golden who is probably town... and there was something else you found before and forgot.
Yeahhhh ok.

Okay so after unpacking my thoughts like a single player chess game.

Town unsorted

golden
sig
rondo
guillo
kate
hollowkatt
marmot
neon
porscha

Null/3p/? unsorted

Falcon
Sloonei
112
DrWilgy
Michelle

POE sorted

Scotty
SVS
Party Crasher
Dyslexicon
Lilypetal
Urist

I claimed to be extremely busy irl and i was sleep deprived so after i posted my vote on the thread i pressed wrong on the poll and I couldn't keep my eyes open. Have you read my post when i said that? I certainly didn't want to vote Scotty.

Push me harder daddy, but find a real reason, maybe you can get a correct answer.

Also I should read this post throughly after work :shrug

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:59 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:56 am Dyslexicon
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Voters: EnderWiggin

Why @EnderWiggin ?

Pushing buttons because I might have just been wrong on Rondo and the answer if that's true is that my worldview has been skewed.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:58 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:57 am Golden let me pick my own dad, pls and tnx

This is a fair point.

Sorry tortoise Sloonei you are not thread dad, the role of dad is being decentralised.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:39 am I am Thread Dad.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:41 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:39 pm Ender can we talk about reads?

Sure, I'm currently going through spew and updating them, so kinda in a flux state rn.

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:40 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:38 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:37 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:31 pm Sweet. Ok then yeah it’s my fault nutella died. Sorry nut.

Hard-claiming town neighbourhood. I brought in Alison yesterday. I told her I’d bring nutella in as a test.

I also did not trust Alison and lied entirely about the nature of my neighbourhood to her. I brought her into the neighbourhood because I thought she was wolf. I redirected any kill shot on me onto her which is why I was double checking… mafia kill could have been Alison. I was hoping I’d played my ability up as powerful enough that I’d be the one targeted and Alison would take the hit. Meh, never mind.

Anyway, bringing nut in was also not the truth. I’ll quote everything Alison said to me in the neighbourhood in here in due course (Ie not while I’m at work) in case it spews anything.

Oh. Are there nobody in your neighbourhood now?

Also, don't quote stuff from there, it's probably not allowed. Ask the mods. Paraphrasing probably ok

Mindmeld with Dizzy

I didn’t target nut. Maybe there is and maybe there isn’t.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:37 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:31 pm Sweet. Ok then yeah it’s my fault nutella died. Sorry nut.

Hard-claiming town neighbourhood. I brought in Alison yesterday. I told her I’d bring nutella in as a test.

I also did not trust Alison and lied entirely about the nature of my neighbourhood to her. I brought her into the neighbourhood because I thought she was wolf. I redirected any kill shot on me onto her which is why I was double checking… mafia kill could have been Alison. I was hoping I’d played my ability up as powerful enough that I’d be the one targeted and Alison would take the hit. Meh, never mind.

Anyway, bringing nut in was also not the truth. I’ll quote everything Alison said to me in the neighbourhood in here in due course (Ie not while I’m at work) in case it spews anything.

Oh. Are there nobody in your neighbourhood now?

Also, don't quote stuff from there, it's probably not allowed. Ask the mods. Paraphrasing probably ok

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:31 pm Sweet. Ok then yeah it’s my fault nutella died. Sorry nut.

Hard-claiming town neighbourhood. I brought in Alison yesterday. I told her I’d bring nutella in as a test.

I also did not trust Alison and lied entirely about the nature of my neighbourhood to her. I brought her into the neighbourhood because I thought she was wolf. I redirected any kill shot on me onto her which is why I was double checking… mafia kill could have been Alison. I was hoping I’d played my ability up as powerful enough that I’d be the one targeted and Alison would take the hit. Meh, never mind.

Anyway, bringing nut in was also not the truth. I’ll quote everything Alison said to me in the neighbourhood in here in due course (Ie not while I’m at work) in case it spews anything.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:55 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:14 am Allow me to summarise again.

Rondo presently has Ender lock town. Ender has had Rondo as lock mafia since essentially the game began. Rondo has mostly ignored Ender intentionally and admittedly and when I've asked why he said it's because he thinks Ender is town because as a wolf he has no benefit to locking himself into scumreading Rondo out of the gate. So he is townreading him for something Ender did at the start of the game despite Ender, someone whom Rondo should trust to have a good read on him, non stop tunneling Rondo all game.

Further Rondo stated at the beginning of day 2 when he observed Nutella start to question Ender that he actually began to suspect Ender too overnight and wanted to observe day 2 before pursuing it further. Ender's day 2 proceeded to be more non stop burial of Rondo.

The question is on probability...

Is Rondo a wolf whose behavior is that of a wolf who knows he cannot bullshit Ender who saw right through him. So he's mostly just letting Ender spin around and focusing attention elsewhere hoping nobody notices Ender is right. Who when presented with an opportunity to discredit Ender took it.

Or is he a town who lock town reads someone non stop tunneling him who has a better understanding of Rondo than anyone else in all of mafia (they are personal irl friends), who was reaction testing Nutella with the Ender push, or had temporary doubt on it, but has been persuaded to go back to lock townreading Ender after further persistent tunneling.

To me one is plainly viable and the other is ... plausible but doesn't make a great deal of sense.

I rest my case goodnight.

@Michelle @Master Radishes

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:39 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:38 pm Mac, said Seanzie something villagery or was Rondo too wolfy?

Seanzie wagon ppl likes
Rondo wagon ppl hates

Make me like Rondo wagon

Also go back and read my Rondo burial.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:29 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:54 pm [VOTE: rondo] aubergine
In mac we trust.

Isn't Mac trusting Enders read on Rondo?

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:27 am I'm stealing Mac's gimmick

Tell me why the following are towny


Creature
DrWilgy
Dyslexicon
Lilypetal
Porscha

Please and thank you

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:19 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:13 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:07 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:59 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:56 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:30 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:12 pm

My dear Nutella. Wonderful player that you are. If you believe this, help me FEEL that you do. I'm not feeling the fire behind this read. It just feels like very low effort shade, an attempt to persuade the inattentive masses to vote wantonly for a player without really offering any stakes. Do this for me and I may consider voting there.

His responses to me were all shit. His iso is vacant of anything good. He shot ilario which could easily be a wolf motivated shot and there's already a lot of town kp. He has not contributed to solving in earnest. Many have lightly agreed with my concern about him and yet nobody will wagon there. Why is it so hard to gain momentum on this push. Because he's actual mafia and people would rather go along with the big wagon on marmot who is just busy and can solve like a beast when they have time.

Have you asked me a single time why I'm busy?

Why are you busy?

Who are you? (this is a joke to myself because I honestly don't think I've seen a post from Michelle this game)

Because I got shiz to do.

Mac's second voter (where he votes, I vote when i notice the change)
It looked like you had something to tell us, but in fact you were just spamming

Hi Mac's second voter, I'm Seanzie.

I'm not joking about the being busy thing.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:41 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:39 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:41 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:30 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:27 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:43 am Golden could go either way I can't keep track of him to save my life

Kate might be town but she has been very centered on her towniness rather than solving, something of note but I don't think it's too alignment indicative

Party Crasher, I've got no clue on but I rolled my eyes and thought "lame" when I read it was 6 people, for some reason. Couldn't tell ya why

Falcon could be bad but also I think that like every D1 so I'm leaving him alone (and on that topic I won't vote Wilgy today for the same reason)

Lucy is doing her thing where she just says "player x town" so like maybe town

Urist could be bad, that's where my vote would be if I wanted to vote but I don't

Sabi and I are townreading each other, which I hate to be THAT guy but it gives me a bad feeling about them. I will ignore that for now though

Alison is doing that thing where she has the largest ego in the world so I guess maybe town but like maybe drop it back a notch

No one else comes to mind immediately, I'm off to bed buh bye

@Dennis j never townread you lol

Good vibes from Dennis in the quoted post

I don't think there's a single read he gave in that post that doesn't contain the word "but". It's hedgey AF

I had this post in a tab because it had an opposed take than mine, obviously i didn't have time to post it back then

What everyone thinks about falcon?

He's kinda low flying but when isn't he? He has some of the best looks from Sabi interactions. He pushed her in a believable way when nobody else really was.