The Syndicate

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:25 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:22 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:16 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:13 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:11 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:07 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:06 pm Why is checking you dumb?
you already know why
I don’t. Or I’m forgetting. But yeah, if someone else who has the energy for it can answer me, that’d be awesome.
Are you familiar with the Mason role
Yeah, I know she was masons with Mac, but is that what clears her? I never really had Hally towncored based on her role, but on her scumhunting. Are masons always t/t?
A wolf mason would just be cruel
I just read the mafiascum wiki on Masons and it says in normal games they’re always 100% confirmed town. [eyes the words ‘normal games’ and gets a migraine]

I’m not sussing Hally right now, just to be clear. Even after my second-strongest town read turned out to be scum, Hally is still my strongest read even without the mason role. I’m just trying to figure something out, without the brain power to do it.

why ia Hally your strongest town read ?

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:09 pm @Michelle, I'm gathering from your post about Odd that you no longer trust your previous green check on him? Are you going to check him again tonight?

No.
Do you think is useful to recheck Odd?

@Oddmerta who is the best check?

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:42 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:40 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:38 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:34 pm I just opened ted's ISO thinking I might have some gripes, but the posts look pretty decent to me. There's a degree of nuance in his views of JPIC that makes it harder to view as something like TMI. It could be mafia/mafia, but I don't care about reads like that at all right now.
Who's ted and why do you think you were on to something?
tedxtr

"on to something" isn't quite it. He just vaguely filled a "this is a slot that can be mafia" space in my mental construction of the game state, which is why I elected to review his posts more closely.
Okay thanks. None of Ted's post really stick out to me. We had a brief interaction over "chug jug with you".

First i saw this as partner-y, but I see Bo questioned stances about many villagers :

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:38 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:36 pm [VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine
Reasoning? Is it because he didn't answer your question?

Like he did here for eg

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:55 am
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:54 am I suspected them first, of course I'm going to notice them voting for the same person
What was the original reasoning for you suspecting them?

This has the same vibe

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:02 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:59 am Let's play a game:

Is this low-hanging fruit, or is this a justifiable suspect?

AL_sama
BoKnows
fingersplints
JPIC
KZA
Long Con
Marmot
tedxtr

I extract these specific names because they strike me as applicable to the question -- either facing generic suspicions or otherwise pretty blank slates.
AL_sama - null
BoKnows - Town
fingersplints - low-hanging
JPIC - null
KZA - low-hanging
Long Con - low-hanging
Marmot - null
tedxtr - null

I don't have a solid scum suspect yet, but Oddmerta is starting to cross my mind

Lots of nulls, no suspects maybe Odd who suspected JPIC. Looks good for Odd

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:03 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:59 am
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:55 am
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:54 am I suspected them first, of course I'm going to notice them voting for the same person
What was the original reasoning for you suspecting them?
I vocalized my non-elimination vote in the thread. That's the other big gotcha moment Odd caught me in - besides voting alongside my teammate.
Those don't seem like real reasons to me.

Idk what to do with this, looked like it has a meaning, but it isn't more than Wifom

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:05 am
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:59 am
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:55 am
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:54 am I suspected them first, of course I'm going to notice them voting for the same person
What was the original reasoning for you suspecting them?
Number of things, bad entrances, not solving etc. Call it confirmation bias if you want, I usually end up being right
I don't think "bad" entrances are AI.
Not solving is a legitimate reason. I wouldn't say that Long Con isn't solving tbh.

If Odd were Bo's mate he would let him develop his narrative i think

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:08 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:06 am
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:02 am AL_sama - null
BoKnows - Town
fingersplints - low-hanging
JPIC - null
KZA - low-hanging
Long Con - low-hanging
Marmot - null
tedxtr - null

I don't have a solid scum suspect yet, but Oddmerta is starting to cross my mind
Thanks for your response. I'm still wiggling them around in the old noodle. The old pasta.
For what it's worth everyone I marked with null I haven't seen much or any of their posts.

He came back for explanation for the nulls, this shows he had at least one partner there, JPIC confirmed. Would he put 2 partners? Idk

D1 Marmot [Joe Bulo] has been eliminated - inno to cop, super kills, Kansas maf

N1
JaggedJimmyJay [Constance] has been super-killed.
both teams would have all reasons to kill him N1, but the superkill could only come from Gerhardt mafia ig
MacDougall [Peggy Blumquist] has been killed by Kansas mafia

D2 elim TSP (Irma Mundt) town
N2
AL_sama [???] has been killed by Gerhardt mafia probably
tedxtr [???] has been killed by Kansas mafia probably
{Fingers said that she knows who killed Ted because she redirected someone's shot, that means Ted if he is mafia is never in team Kansas [Marmot, Dom, Fingers (+1? that would be Al)]}

Someone attempted to kill [???], but failed. Nanook tried to kill Dom
Sloonei [Ronald Reagan] has been killed - probably by his own role

D3 elim Dom/Gavial (the Kitchen Brothers) Kansas maf
N3
Actionless

D4 elim Falcon (Barton Brixby) town
N4
Someone attempted to kill [???], but failed, the kill on either me protected by SPF or Hally protected by Nanook - kill attempt by Kansas mafia
Long Con [Hank Larsson] has been super-killed by Gerhard maf

D5 elim Fingers (Mike Milligan) - redirector, redacted active, last Kansas mafia
N5
Alison has been super-killed

D6 elim JPIC (Hanzee) - janitor, active redacted
N6
Someone attempted to super-kill [???], but failed. It was a night where LC again protected someone, SPF said she abstained iirc

D7 elim Esooa **failed**
N7
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/color] [Lou Solverson] has been super-killed
staypositivefriend [Karl Weathers] has been killed by Nanook

D8 elim BoKnows (Bear Gerhard) - 1 shot super kill, RBer, active redacted, Gerhard maf

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:36 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:35 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:33 pm elite reads : jpic saying "again" in two posts back to back when defending himself is dat villager RAGE being suppressed
it takes a rage suppressor to know another one

u guys should trust ted's read on jpic here (and my read on jpic) its 100% correct

if u guys continue to try to mischop LHF jpic we gonna throw hands
That's a bold claim. How do you know it's 100% correct?

If Tutuu/Hally was his mate decided to bus JPIC Bo wouldn't question that ig
That's a logically very good look for Hally

Good morning.

Can town play tonight because it's crucial for the game to share ideas and make a brainstorming together?
Can someone check Bo:s Iso?
Can we make a list from towniest to scummiest?

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:28 pm Where did that pill come from?

Fake or redacted.

Can you share your reads for everyone?

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:09 pm @Michelle, I'm gathering from your post about Odd that you no longer trust your previous green check on him? Are you going to check him again tonight?

Bo's Iso will tell us few things, i will reset everything, I was right that he was in antispew

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:42 pm also now that we know mich didn't red check a dead townie somehow, we should probably trust her checks and assume maf left her alive because they know they didn't redirect her and assumed she was an insane cop and had bad checks.

so ted probably was town and odd probably is town

I have a townread on oddmerta regardless and his actions look like town to me so he's in my locktown list wheeee

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:40 pm p sure 10074 and 10076 together confirm that kza/splints are the last two members of one mafia team

we should go there first to get rid of their factional NK

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:44 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:43 pm like maybe Alison is trolling but she's calling oddmerta lock town on play while saying to lynch bk

does not compute
im trying to exe kza actually

you have an entire day phase to convince me about why BK is town but "i don't really think he's scum" isn't gonna cut it given your role and possible 3P equity

go

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:35 pm weh

I don't want to have to decide between kza and odd

I'm leaning towards kza slightly but splint also said there was a wolf between odd and SPF

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:36 pm i should prolly re-eval odd

and we probably do have to exe in the troopers

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:08 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:07 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:35 pm weh

I don't want to have to decide between kza and odd

I'm leaning towards kza slightly but splint also said there was a wolf between odd and SPF
i don’t think she did
you said you think it's between odd and SPF and she said you're on the right track right?

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 3:14 pm Long Con planned to target JPIC with his double surveillance so I assume he was scumreading JPIC

Also I think LC died because of a bus drive

I forgot, they wanted to kill Alison then

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:56 amJpic maf

What made you read JPIC as mafia back then?

JPICs Iso in last days is pretty empty

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:43 pm But if Gerhardt Mafia has three members then the Alison+2 Troopers team doesn't really work.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:46 pm Distrustfall

Nanook - how hard is it, as a wolf with a vig shot, to pick a playe that is a really towny pick, and then claim? Didn't Nanook do exactly that for the win in a big game last year?
Odd - busdrivers can be mafia. popular theory is that troopers can as well
Esooa - she purportedly has a role that could have saved a number of town lives, but she didn't even try to. 3p at best.
Strawhenge - cleared for seeming towny. Gre-e-e-eaat... Nothing to see here Seriously though, is there anything besides his personality that earned the townread?? What. Has. He. Done?
Staypositivefriend - phony townclear earlier. Hally's wolf assessment, to me, earlier today, that I called 'convincing'.
KZA - what clears KZA... being a trooper? What else?
Long Con - guy owes me twenty dollars
Fingersplints - I've been vocal enough about my splints suspicion
JPIC - Having a track don't mean squat to alignment, if it's even true. Did he give his other night results? Probably, I forget
Michelle - meh
Alison - claims town PR with solid reads in the first post, and is still alive. Joseph said to take her out, maybe if she doesn't produce a pelt tomorrow we'll follow his orders
BoKnows - a slot it would be nice to clear either way, very unknown, and that's troubling

I try to understand why was LC the kill in that night before Alison or Nanook.

@KZA what was LCs last scum reads in your btsc?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:54 pm Town pile
Alison*
Esooa
falcon45ca
MacDougall
Oddmerta*
Sloonei
Strawhenge
*reassess this interplay if and only if there is no appropriate explanation for future life, let them sort themselves

Close enough pile
BoKnows
staypositivefriend
Hally/tutuu

Backup POE pool
fingersplints
Justplayingitcool
Michelle

POE pool
Dom
KZA
Long Con
Nanook
tedxtr
TonyStarkPrime

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:59 pm AL_sama

Reposting Jay's reads

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 8] Hally wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:32 am*cannot Why?

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:32 am*cannot

Why?

If Bo is scum, this game has most probably one more wolf who is deep and very hard to find, and he is not playing to not out his mate.
If Bo is villager... well, i don't think he is.

Straw who was considered villager by Jay and Sloonei iirc, claimed miller after my peek and succeded to get herself out from suspicion.
If she is scum, is an awesome achievement to fool everyone, if she is town, is an awesome achievement to make herself believable. I like we could play together this game.

Odd is peeked villager, but that doesn't mean he is confirmed 100%. Straw's case on him is plausible and he plays close to his scum meta. I don't know. I have to read his Iso myself.

KZA is strongly shielded by Esooa, and mechanically has a role that doesn't make sense for scum because scum have 2 super killing slots, one flipped (Marmot iirc) and KZAs ability makes the possibility for town to have something similar.

Esooa is prooved to have at least 1 lynchproof ability and talked about it long before she was on the chopping block. I think she wouldn't make clear this thing as scum. Makes sense for her to be a survivor, or just town.

Hally is not like Hally i know

hiding behind mechs but not playing. Alison considered her villager, and if Hally is wolf I can say i sheeped a flipped town.

These being told, i still didn't finish JPICs Iso and this is still on my to do list.

We are 7 and i think we have more than one scum, worst case scenario we have 3 scum and we loose by a single mischop, most logically we have 2 wolves and tomorow exists anyway.

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:46 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:30 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:44 pm alright

hope bo is a wolf i guess. if not lol this game
What do you think about everyone?
Why do you always self clear yourself alluding mechs you can't talk about but you don't play the game like you are usually playing?
because it’s D8 and i’m exhausted

Don't say this, now is the moment to step up and play the game.
Please

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:44 pm alright

hope bo is a wolf i guess. if not lol this game

What do you think about everyone?
Why do you always self clear yourself alluding mechs you can't talk about but you don't play the game like you are usually playing?

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:43 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:12 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:28 am o you guys expect me to just accept death like this if I was scum. I have over a 1000 posts and have poured hours into this game. You guys just really think im going to role over and die as scum when I've made it this far in
Actually, no. I would expect a chart- and graph-making, 1000+ posting townie to fight a bum red check a little harder. I get that all the effort you've put into the game must have taken a lot of energy, but if you are town, you're gonna have to expend some more energy to convince that Michelle got a bad check. Because from where I'm sitting, it looks pretty cut and dry.
I have no idea how to fight this though. I feel like it's a pointless battle for a game I'll probably still end up winning.
Hally wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:57 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:28 am o you guys expect me to just accept death like this if I was scum. I have over a 1000 posts and have poured hours into this game. You guys just really think im going to role over and die as scum when I've made it this far in
why are you speaking from the pov of you being scum?
because if I was scum I wouldn't just role over and die.

If you are villager and you consider you don't know how to express yourself as villager, that is sad.

Who were you in Simpsons game? I forgot

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:50 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:52 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:28 am o you guys expect me to just accept death like this if I was scum. I have over a 1000 posts and have poured hours into this game. You guys just really think im going to role over and die as scum when I've made it this far in
Why do you think you deserve to be read villager?
my contributions to the game

Refresh my memory and tell me about the things i didn't read

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:28 am o you guys expect me to just accept death like this if I was scum. I have over a 1000 posts and have poured hours into this game. You guys just really think im going to role over and die as scum when I've made it this far in

Why do you think you deserve to be read villager?

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:08 am N7 I swapped Strawhenge with Michelle

Would this mess up my peek?

I asked for a full day, we have plenty of time

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:55 pm i dont agree with the results of the investigation

Prove me my peek is wrong

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:43 pm inb4 bo claims miller

Hally, please play this day and search for scum
I would be highly dissapointed to have you still doing nothing when I come back after work (don't worry, my work day is more than 14 hours today, so you have time)

Nanook should shot Bo to check the accuracy of my peek, that would out the possibility of shenanigans regarding peeks
Sigh

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:37 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:32 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:29 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:28 pm The message is real but again mafia can have a redirector
Or Odd busdrove. Hey @Oddmerta, who'd you target last night?
He will not tell anyway

Btw, in the previous night he switched me and Bo, that didn't change my peek?
Why wouldn't he tell? If he has info that could clarify what happened, and he's town, he'd tell.

And the way I interpret the busdriver role is that it only affects the actions targeted at the people he swaps. If he swapped you and Bo, I don't think that affects you targeting me. It would only affect anything that was aimed at you or Bo.

So, in this instance, if Odd busdrove Bo with someone else, then your red peek is on that other person.

I see

Regarding your Iso, i remember Alison said she asked and she had a mistake in her role, and that should be in the last pages of her Iso
I would search but is harder on phone

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:02 pm I am ready to play

Do it, you promised it yesterday

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:29 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:28 pm The message is real but again mafia can have a redirector
Or Odd busdrove. Hey @Oddmerta, who'd you target last night?

He will not tell anyway

Btw, in the previous night he switched me and Bo, that didn't change my peek?

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:07 pm I have done quite a lot and pushed wolves on other side actually but aight

Oops

The message is real but again mafia can have a redirector

I need time to think at the game and that will happen very late today

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:59 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:23 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:10 pm can we lynch odd?
Seems to be the consensus unless Michelle comes back with a red on you
well get ur votes on odd

Not so fast Bo

I received the info that Bo is mafia

[VOTE: Bo] aubergine

Let's hope the miracle of last night happens again

Finger crossed

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:20 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:17 pm I wanted to check the similarities between the mafia teams roles but I didn't have time.
A full claim of roles and actions have to be organised i think.
Who is town should play more active, putting wolves in a box is easier in this way
I'll make a roles list for you with all the dead players included

idk about the actions, we'll just bring those up when they apply to discussions I think

I made it somewhere already, is in my Iso of the last day or this night.

Though i worked pretty randomly these days because informations are way too many and RL wasn't mafia friendly

I wanted to check the similarities between the mafia teams roles but I didn't have time.
A full claim of roles and actions have to be organised i think.
Who is town should play more active, putting wolves in a box is easier in this way

I sent my action, now i can sleep

Thanks both of you

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:59 pm @Michelle, who among the living players have you checked already?

Hally - ?
SPF - ?
BK - TBD
Nanook - ?
Odd - green
Me - red (miller)
Esooa - ?
KZA - ?

Just the 2 you mentioned, i think i was blocked in the night i wanted to check JPIC (actually my action failed, i have no proof of being blocked), one night was without actions and N1 was Ted and in the night Alison was killed i targeted Alison with result not guilty.
So 2 alive, 2 dead, one without answer, one night skipped. These are the checks i made.

I just remembered, Bo said he sent me a pill, but I didn't receive anything and it would be illogical for scum RBer to block him. Seems odd

Someone received a pill during the game?

If by chance I am alive tomorow i can't play Monday because i have to work all day
Please let the day at its normal lenght, it's good for town

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:52 pm if i was a wolf tracker i would probably always just claim my real results to avoid anything screw-y that could out me

Yes, but you would probably track your partner and give him the support of your track.

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:46 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:40 pm Why would JPIC confirm 2 villagers in Bo and KZA? He could easily track a teammate, it would be more logical
I think I posed this question already, but: Is it possible JPIC claimed to have tracked someone who was actually his teammate, attempting to clear them? Scum could have coordinated fake claims.

This would be the most logical thing, Bo visited the NK in N1 after all

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:47 am Please just check bo

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:48 am I'm asking you to please just trust me and defer to my preference to check bo, if it turns out to be the wrong play you can yell at me in post

So Bo is the check, can you confirm it?

Townies should vote for a full day of 48 h

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:00 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:47 pm general question:

what does everyone in this game perceive the "POE" to be? if you had to give a list of players who are in the consensus "POE", who would you put down?
LC
KZA
Falcon
BK
Fingersplints

Another Poe, kind of frozen

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:18 am
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:00 pm [VOTE: Strawhenge] aubergine

@Strawhenge this is a legitimate vote for compelling reasons and in no way an rng vote. I know you are mafia, tell me who your teammates are
1. I'd love to know your compelling reasons, @Oddmerta.

2. I'd love to know what RNG means.

3. I'm also feeling checked out of this game. First couple day/night phases were very high activity and now the slump has me feeling lethargic. I'm committed to finishing the game though. [borrow's JJJ's hat for a second] I encourage everyone to take space from the game when they need it; mafia burnout is real.

@Oddmerta what were the reasons to vote Straws?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:48 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:44 pm Ben Schmidt literally gets called a "shit cop" by Deputy Solverson in the show so Michelle might be a faulty cop but I really hope not because I hate those roles
Not possible with the check on ted

Was Ted spewed villager here?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:49 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:48 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:48 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:44 pm Ben Schmidt literally gets called a "shit cop" by Deputy Solverson in the show so Michelle might be a faulty cop but I really hope not because I hate those roles
Not possible with the check on ted
Ted was janitored tho?
And killed at night. Think we can assume he was murdered by scum unless someone wants to claim it

JPICs team was the one killing Ted?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:04 am Morning

I'm a tracker-variant of some sort. When I track, I also learn what action was done as well.

N1: I tracked BK to JJJ. It didn't mention anything about pills, just that he is an item-giver.
N2: I tracked Nook to Dom. Nothing more needs to be said there.
N4: I tracked KZA to SPF. Apparently, the ability used here is to duplicate failed actions on their target until success.

Why would JPIC confirm 2 villagers in Bo and KZA? He could easily track a teammate, it would be more logical

Spoiler: show

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:10 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:06 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:58 am Bo, is the JPIC wagon based on a similar roleclaim to LC? Do you think he's been scummy? He's been a scum-lean lean for me for a while, but after LC flipped green I've lost some faith in my ability to read.
That's why I'm voting for JPIC. Long Con had the counter claim to being a tracker and LC is green. In a game this size what are the chances there are two town trackers? Overall his game hasn't been super scummy, but it hasn't been towny. I haven't seen a JPIC post since the start of the game that pinged me town. His dissapearance lately isn't great either, iirc someone made a good meta read on that (I'll see if I can find it).
This is the first game we have played together., i dunno how you can call the meta read good

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:21 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:20 pm Also literally one person didn't vote for Gavidom; voting for him dun't make anyone special.
It’s not about the vote but me tracking nook to dom which confirmed nook wasn’t blocked

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:23 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:21 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:20 pm Also literally one person didn't vote for Gavidom; voting for him dun't make anyone special.
It’s not about the vote but me tracking nook to dom which confirmed nook wasn’t blocked
That doesn't confirm that you're town.

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:24 pm JPIC, right now, is your best argument that you're town because you tracked Nanook and the game might not actually be multiball?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:25 pm Why not? Why would i bury my teammate like that for no reason

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:26 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:24 pm JPIC, right now, is your best argument that you're town because you tracked Nanook and the game might not actually be multiball?
Playing devils advocate and im in the ‘other team’, who are my partners?

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:28 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:26 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:24 pm JPIC, right now, is your best argument that you're town because you tracked Nanook and the game might not actually be multiball?
Playing devils advocate and im in the ‘other team’, who are my partners?
I would have to read back through the entire thread, but GTH I'd say Esooa and Oddmerta.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:31 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:28 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:26 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:24 pm JPIC, right now, is your best argument that you're town because you tracked Nanook and the game might not actually be multiball?
Playing devils advocate and im in the ‘other team’, who are my partners?
I would have to read back through the entire thread, but GTH I'd say Esooa and Oddmerta.
Odd and myself are never partners together with how D1 went down. Try again

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:34 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:33 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:31 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:28 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:26 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:24 pm JPIC, right now, is your best argument that you're town because you tracked Nanook and the game might not actually be multiball?
Playing devils advocate and im in the ‘other team’, who are my partners?
I would have to read back through the entire thread, but GTH I'd say Esooa and Oddmerta.
Odd and myself are never partners together with how D1 went down. Try again
Refresh my memory.
He shaded me the entire phase and misrepresented my posts. Also, he’s peeked green lol

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:04 pm
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:02 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:53 pm
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:52 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:48 pm If I was mafia i also bussed my teammate marmot heavily d1
Why did you do that?
Why did I do what?
Why did you bus your teammate Marnot on day 1?
Because im town and not his teammate?

I am very tired, i put in spoiler few interactions, but I can't discern the truth from Wifom.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:25 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:10 am So it's agreed. Falcon is tomorrow's chop.
Why falcon over Al?

Doesn't look like Al was aligned with JPIC, except he wanted to bus him

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:26 am
Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:18 am so bo is a villager. that’s good
Why is he a villager?

Tunneling Bo seems like he wanted Bo dead.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:50 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:49 am any idea how many wolves could be in the two teams? someone mentioned 3-3

i have no clue how multiball ratio works
3-3 sounds like a fair ratio

This is interesting, hope is true

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:08 am
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:04 am Kansas City Mafia would be Joe Bulo, Mike Milligan, The Kitchen Brothers (1 role) and Simone Gerhardt

Gerhardt Family Crime Syndicate would be Floyd Gerhardt, Dodd Gerhardt and Simone Gerhardt

Notice how I included Simone Gerhardt in both mafia teams

After the two mafia factions we have to worry about Hanzee because there is no way novase runs this game without Hanzee in it. He will be a killer and he will be strong
Missing Bear Gerhardt, he will be in Gerhardt Crime family syndicate

I wonder who's claim seems fake atm?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:11 am yeah, upon checking Marmot's role, I see no reason for Al not to be aligned with him, it may actually be slightly w/w indicative

if al died, marmot could've used his abilities...and it's multiball. iirc marmot was the type of player to want to go deep and in this situation all he needed was al to go over, gain a few credit to live and keep on owning.

he was a godfather, he can use his team mates' abilities if he died, he's also a role cop

pretty nice role

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:19 am it's still possible al could be a villager, but we just need to get him out imo

i don't think he's ever able to clear himself and there's a few reasons to believe he was a bus / he has equity to be on the other team due to the constant resistance to his wagon

I hate to have so many janitored kills.
If Ted is right and Al was teamed with Marmot, then the teams are 4/4 and we are in a very bad spot.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:01 pm My POE IS

Nanook
Lc
Al
Dom
bk

Would put KZA just above the PoE of five

His reads 'progressed' from the below post, i have the impression he RNGed the names

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:13 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:56 am @Justplayingitcool who mafia
BoKnows
TSP
Marmot
Odd

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:16 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:10 am
KZA wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:16 pm [VOTE: Al-Sama] aubergine

let's have a look at this
then michelle, spf and i go for al

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:54 pm feel cute might bury tony idk
then this

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:56 pmthis is fine.
^after falcon made the tie breaking move

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:59 pm damn rip tony

someone shoot al
the flip didn't even happen by this point

w a t
It'd probably mean something more if KZA wasn't town reading tony. Although, I thought those posts were fine

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:28 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:05 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:01 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:00 pm [VOTE: Al] aubergine

This is the best of the current wagons.
Do you genuinely believe Al is the scummiest active wagon or is this self pres?

Also this wording implies there is someone who you'd rather see exed over Al but who isn't an active wagon. Who is it?
It is both.

I've seen reasons for both Ted and TSP to be town. Al on the other hand posted an awkward readlist yesterday and not much since then.

If this game happens to be multi-ball, Nanook and spf should be given another look. They were both suspicions I had earlier on before they claimed mason.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:12 pm I didn't realize they were joking about it earlier, I thought it was an attempt from Nanook to shield spf, because at the time, she was taking a lot of heat.
I was going to go through Nook's ISO at some point (due to not coming up with a reason for a town read from the top of my head), and when I was looking through, I saw the jokey posts about Nanook & SPF being masons together, which reminded me of the above posts from Marmot. It feels like Marmot genuinely believed that SPF & Nook were masons together, so I think this could point to Nook/SPF not being a wolf with Marmot.

Would JPIC post this if one of Nanook /SPF is his mate?

Hally complaining about no one ISOing JPIC
Also Hally doing nothing about it...
And everyone else.

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