The Syndicate

Btw, is it safe to townread LanMisa?

Still, like, I wolfread Mac outside his push on you

I think he might be wolfing, and, in that case, the push on you is prob just wolf pushing a mislynch

If he is town then I'd def be interested on his read on you because I trust his reads more than other town players

But right now he is pushing Manny, Chelsea and Jack?

Actually I could maybe see Chelsea and Jack being wolves here, mainly Jack, but mostly because he fits the tryharding wolf archetype

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:50 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:49 pm
Manny wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:10 pm I hate the fact that Mac is postcapped cuz i kinda wanna omgus him to death now and i dunno how much is it because he might be a wolf and how much is it because im annoyed at him being unable to find me!v here.
Imagine coming into the thread only to be told you're either right on Lime Coke or wolfing
If only that were true so I could have the right to OMGUS him every single time he pushes me.

That's my strategy when he votes me (or almost everyone else who regularly plays with me)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:59 pm This vote formation is kinda ass

What do you suggest?

Manny wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:10 pm I hate the fact that Mac is postcapped cuz i kinda wanna omgus him to death now and i dunno how much is it because he might be a wolf and how much is it because im annoyed at him being unable to find me!v here.

Imagine coming into the thread only to be told you're either right on Lime Coke or wolfing

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:46 pm I literally though you of all people would've gotten what I was going for but somehow that went over your head.

Why did I have expectations for you?

I mean that I, atm, wolfread Mac a lot more than you

I guess it's just that if he's town I'd pretty much value his reads a lot

but I know he has been wrong before

Manny wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:01 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:00 pm What'd you do last night?
Falcon visited you which is why i've been townreading him lol, dont see any point for wolves to act on u.

Oh okay gotta remember this

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:45 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:21 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:18 pm [VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

I don't get the Lime Coke wagon

I thought he would be easily townread here?
Well the main one leading the charge is Mac so... you'd understand.
Oh yeah

Mac is more likely either right on you or wolfing

or wrong town

This ain't really a fixed dichotomy

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:21 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:18 pm [VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

I don't get the Lime Coke wagon

I thought he would be easily townread here?
Well the main one leading the charge is Mac so... you'd understand.

Oh yeah

Mac is more likely either right on you or wolfing

[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

I don't get the Lime Coke wagon

I thought he would be easily townread here?

rn I have free time but I am so disengaged I'll prob be asking what is happening mostly

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:53 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:55 pm Good afternoon

How are we doing?
The entirety of Creature’s D2. The easiest of extra points.

Yeah I spent almost the entirety of the game playing another game in MU and then I had college the last two days and this morning

Good afternoon

How are we doing?

I guess I'll prob just end up sheeping my townreads and atm they're mostly at the sig wagon

I just don't personally have a read on sig atm

Welp shit I guess I don't have a lot of time for this EOD

I don't get the Lime Coke wolfreads here. Like, I thought he hated wolfing and would just disappear if he randed wolf.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:16 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:16 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:07 am Creature keeps making excuses for why people are gonna vote him and it feels very defeatist in a wolfy way but I won't vote there unless someone checks me because I can't read creature
Actually I am a lot more prone to do that as town. As a wolf I am worried that's gonna draw too much attention to me and I'd rather just jump into game solving instead.

I have good reasons to be complaining about people voting me for going inactive, because that happened an awful lot of times for me on Syndicate. I am rarely ever mislynched (as town) in MU, but I get mislynched quite a lot here even when I spend the entire day defending myself and arguing for another lynch.
Remind me if I’m wrong, but don’t you dislike rolling wolf and slank off with those rolls?

Yeah, I dislike rolling wolf, but I also tend to go inactive as town especially when the game goes through those boring stages where nothing new happens and I can only wait for EOD or something.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:08 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:57 pm
Dunnstral wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:52 pm If you look at all the "active players" at any moment in this thread and think "they're all town" then you're either a huge sucker, or non-town yourself.
Oh yeah

I'd be pretty concerned if I were townreading all the active players unless it was like early game
.... but it IS early game...?

I mean like it is the first half of day 1 or something. Townreading the players who have been posting is okay in earlier pages, but once nearly everyone has posted you need to do the work on finding the wolves who have been posting.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:13 pmAfter playing Don't Starve mafia I feel like in Syndicate I am playing against AIs learning mafia
For how long have you been playing Mafia?

Since 2016 on mafiascum, since 2016 on Mafia Universe and you can prob check my join date in this site.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:16 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:07 am Creature keeps making excuses for why people are gonna vote him and it feels very defeatist in a wolfy way but I won't vote there unless someone checks me because I can't read creature
Actually I am a lot more prone to do that as town. As a wolf I am worried that's gonna draw too much attention to me and I'd rather just jump into game solving instead.

I have good reasons to be complaining about people voting me for going inactive, because that happened an awful lot of times for me on Syndicate. I am rarely ever mislynched (as town) in MU, but I get mislynched quite a lot here even when I spend the entire day defending myself and arguing for another lynch.
You can go inactive for long periods of time on MU and no one cares?

That must be only me then because when I go inactive for a whole day it almost always results in a wagon on me. I wouldn't take much issue with it if it didn't become a pattern where I would get mislynched even when I returned with 50+ posts.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:52 pm
Manny wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:33 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:32 pm I am unimpressed by Dunnstral, Manny and falcon45ca.
Herculean ability to unimpress everyone.
Your pfp gives the mood.
What's pfp?

Profile picture. The image below the username.

Manny wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:54 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:51 pm Gonna need to explain Mac. It looks like he's trying to go for a show when he got nothing to offer.
He seemed fine when i was realtiming with him and i dont have much interest in d1'ing him.

I doubt he's getting D1ed because he's Mac, but atm I think he's more likely wolfing. Came off as quite unimpressive.

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

I don't feel like I disagree with any of the wagons. Though, sig and Manny are close to null for me.

I think I am more happy with Mac v Seanzie because both seemed forced.

Manny wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:33 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:32 pm I am unimpressed by Dunnstral, Manny and falcon45ca.
Herculean ability to unimpress everyone.

Your pfp gives the mood.

Manny wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:30 pm Creature can be V ig

Creature/Lan/Mich/Scotty/Brad/Mac V

if i had to add anyone else it'd prolly be dunnstral but i refuse to do it by virtue of them not tr'ing me :hmmyes:

Gonna need to explain Mac. It looks like he's trying to go for a show when he got nothing to offer.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:24 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:21 pm Kinda leaning Michelle town, but I'd rather see a post from her that makes me go like "yeah, this is town", just like I got a post from Lime Coke that made me say that.
Idk if you find, tbh

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Yep, I didn't find it. But I think you're good enough. I'll prob get confident once I see a good wolfread of yours turning out to be right.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:46 pm Creature and sig are wolves.

Epi cosplaying as Three Billboards Outside New Vegas is NAI on the long run for him honestly, but the content is not towny to me.

Are you listing me as a wolf for disappearing half of the day?

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:13 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:18 am I will not vote creature

I will not vote creature

Creature has the worst entrance but I will not vote creature
Creature entrance was very weird? Honestly it was so weird I wanna town read them lol

Yes, that's usually town indicative for me. I am pretty blendy as a wolf.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:24 pm
Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:17 am
Chelsea wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:21 am Thanks for the fish.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:47 pm Fuck it Scotty can be town.
Do you base this on the mech post? I find that a tad odd because anyone can speak on mech, especially considering it's basically truth-talk and busy work Day 1. It's probably the most irrelevant line of conversation you can go down. Now, given it's RVS at that point, sure talk away on a matter I consider unimportant but out of all of Scotty's early posts, why that one?

I can't decipher whether your reaction is over-eager or just premature. Even with your later answer just doesn’t feel like you should be this set.
Lots of incorrect assumptions in this post.
Agreed. Because I share this viewpoint I will light townread you. It shows Chelsea hasn’t really read the thread before making a blanket statement/read.

Also light scum read Chelsea.

Current list:

Townread:
Seanzie
Princess Abbi
TSP

Townlean:
Dunnstral

Scum lean:
Lime Coke
Chelsea
Creature

Scumread:
Michelle

Is this readslist intentionally upsidedown?

LanMisa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:06 pm Okay, managed to catch up properly. Thoughts so far:

Townreads: Chelsea, Scotty

Both had strong openings, don't shy away from making waves and throwing out reads early, both feel inquisitive and mindful

Slight townleans: Abigail, Michelle
Abigail had some volume that I consider "empty" but also one banger reads list. I kinda agree that wolves don't seem to have a lot of thread presence yet since I townread all the players who made waves so far.

Michelle feels towny in tone and approach as well but it has been ages since I had meaningful games with Michelle so I am not quite up to date on how to read her.

Neutral: Lime, Creature
Lime had the slight issue in my eyes that I felt like he was mostly going for the "everyone is happiness" approach, a strategy I like to do in uninspired wolf games that can come from TMI and a lack of easy pushes. I disliked the "forcing townreads" stuff. I don't have any direct issue with a single post though, so... we'll see where this goes.

Creature has a NAI Creature opening so far but as per usual I will roast you over the fiery pit if I don't get to see at least SOME reads and gameplay-related posts before the end of the phase - THIS is usually what makes Creature obvious, whether his whining gets backed up by an attempt of participation - or not.

Worrisome: Manny, seanzie, Dunnstral
Manny feels less energetic than I'd thought I'd see him play in a game with several of the people he himself recruited. I do have a potential explanation on why he'd play the way he does (at least if this could be compared to MU games) but... I honestly hoped to find Manny early D1 and just chill, which is not the case.

Dunnstral has had a lot of posts but nothing so far managed to stick with me. If someone else knows how to read Dunn I'm all ears, but from experience this is something that's either wolf indicative - or a clash of playstyle/personal tiredness.

seanzie had a lot of nothing paired with a long period of absence, and as I said earlier it's the one take from Scotty that I disagree with, so far.

Rest of the crowd didn't leave an impression enough to be on this list yet.

I think this post looks good for LanMisa?

They're pretty spot on about my meta as I tend to react pretty differently when I come back into the thread after having nearly no content. Though, maybe saying that before testing me first comes up as a bit unnecessary?

Anyway, I mostly agree with the Seanzie wolfread.

I dunno about Manny being less energetic meaning anything for them. Perhaps they just got the highposting fatigue from other games.

Actually maybe the most concerning thing about this list is that reads feel mostly consensus, except that Lime Coke wasn't instatownread here.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:32 pm Just got to page 6 and I am pretty bored already

I think Michelle, Lime Coke and Princess Abigail are my top townreads.

Chelsea is kinda towny, but not by much.

I am unimpressed by Dunnstral, Manny and falcon45ca.

Mac and Seanzie looked the worst.

Maybe I would add Scotty with Chelsea.

He seems towny, but not as obvious as Michelle, Lime Coke and Princess Abigail.

Though, if Princess Abigail is Neon they might be pretty good at faking tone here.

Just got to page 6 and I am pretty bored already

I think Michelle, Lime Coke and Princess Abigail are my top townreads.

Chelsea is kinda towny, but not by much.

I am unimpressed by Dunnstral, Manny and falcon45ca.

Mac and Seanzie looked the worst.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:09 am
Manny wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:25 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:21 am M-m-m-mafia
hi nerd
Ha some retirement

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:10 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:27 am
Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:22 am They talk later about their reasons and it was not the mech post. But you assume it is and run with it and ask questions about that.

It's strange to me that Lime Coke rushes to call you town too given the above.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:07 am Creature keeps making excuses for why people are gonna vote him and it feels very defeatist in a wolfy way but I won't vote there unless someone checks me because I can't read creature
It is a bit of a misrepresentation to frame it like this, they made their posts at the start of the day and haven't posted since then. As for me I don't have an opinion on Creature yet but didn't find their early posts to be alarming (though I also dislike when people say they're not good on day 1 like this)
Can you talk a little about your playstyle?
Also if you can link recent games as both alignaments it would be nice
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:21 am M-m-m-mafia

Hello Michelle, pleasure to see you

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:11 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:29 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:21 am M-m-m-mafia
Mac!!!!!! Hiiii!!!
Hello Abi. A pleasure as always indeed.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:12 am And to all who didn't greet me, a pox on your houses

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:13 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:55 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:06 am Where is @MacDougall ?

I have to work, but when I come back I want your reads, sir!

Also @LanMisa how are you? I hope you have time to play this game
If Mac doesn't call me town he's wolfing
I was going to.

Still am, but I also was going to.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:16 am
Chelsea wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:06 am Lime
Michelle
Creature
-
Dunnstral
Abigail

GN
@Creature going to require citation on that one.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:17 am My feeling is most of the mafia have yet to post.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Ama.

Did Mac rand wolf here? I don't like this string of posts and the last post of the string was by far the worst.

Kinda leaning Michelle town, but I'd rather see a post from her that makes me go like "yeah, this is town", just like I got a post from Lime Coke that made me say that.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:33 am Linking activity with towniness when people come from different time zones is not what I will trust as an actual thought

Activity matters for some players. Though content is more important even for them.

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:27 am My early feelings are ☆Princess Abigail☆ and Michelle leaning towny

Lime Coke maybe leaning town

Manny leaning mafia

Dunnstral's reads here are very agreeable. Not sure if this is a good sign or a bad sign.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:25 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:23 am Why for both? Why maybe?
Chelsea's questioning of me feels towny since she isn't just trying to kill me or get me in a gotcha it's just trying to figure out what I'm doing.

Manny because of him looking to sheep Chelsea but doesn't instantly do it the moment she votes someone and questions it.

Maybe because it's something Manny can do as mafia but I'm choosing to think it's town.

I think the Chelsea townread makes sense here. Manny townread not so much.

Oh welp maybe I am talking too much about myself. I hope the next posts I find aren't solely focused on my one opening.

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:22 am They talk later about their reasons and it was not the mech post. But you assume it is and run with it and ask questions about that.

It's strange to me that Lime Coke rushes to call you town too given the above.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:07 am Creature keeps making excuses for why people are gonna vote him and it feels very defeatist in a wolfy way but I won't vote there unless someone checks me because I can't read creature
It is a bit of a misrepresentation to frame it like this, they made their posts at the start of the day and haven't posted since then. As for me I don't have an opinion on Creature yet but didn't find their early posts to be alarming (though I also dislike when people say they're not good on day 1 like this)

Ftr my reads are going to be somewhat horrible D1 until I adjust them accordingly in posterior days. This is why I am warning all of you I might look awkward during D1 but then D2 can change a lot.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:07 am Creature keeps making excuses for why people are gonna vote him and it feels very defeatist in a wolfy way but I won't vote there unless someone checks me because I can't read creature

Actually I am a lot more prone to do that as town. As a wolf I am worried that's gonna draw too much attention to me and I'd rather just jump into game solving instead.

I have good reasons to be complaining about people voting me for going inactive, because that happened an awful lot of times for me on Syndicate. I am rarely ever mislynched (as town) in MU, but I get mislynched quite a lot here even when I spend the entire day defending myself and arguing for another lynch.

Maybe Princess Abigail can be town for hating my opening but recognizing it's a playstyle issue.

I feel like as a wolf they would prob just try to appease everyone or make an actual push on someone.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:48 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:33 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:26 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:17 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:14 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:03 am Have a feeling this one's gonna be disappointing with how this started.
Why is that?
Very slow start.

Probably gonna be inactive as hell.

I will be misyeeted because people will do dumb things.

Town will lose afterwards.
That would be annoying I need some wins
Fucking same I think I've only gotten 1 win since I came back.
I'm undefeated as town on mu since coming back but I haven't won a game here or FoL I think it's frustrating

After playing Don't Starve mafia I feel like in Syndicate I am playing against AIs learning mafia

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:33 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:26 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:17 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:14 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:03 am Have a feeling this one's gonna be disappointing with how this started.
Why is that?
Very slow start.

Probably gonna be inactive as hell.

I will be misyeeted because people will do dumb things.

Town will lose afterwards.
That would be annoying I need some wins
Fucking same I think I've only gotten 1 win since I came back.

1) Rand town
2) Do your best
3) Die and watch town ignore wolves
4) Lose

or

1) Rand wolf
2) Get lynched D1
3) Let your wolfmates carry you
4) Win

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:17 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:14 am
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:03 am Have a feeling this one's gonna be disappointing with how this started.
Why is that?
Very slow start.

Probably gonna be inactive as hell.

I will be misyeeted because people will do dumb things.

Town will lose afterwards.

Alright I think Lime Coke can be probably town for this.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:12 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:41 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:40 pm Something something, Brad, something.
Now THIS.

THIS is some towny shit
Unironically agree

What?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:16 am
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:04 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:03 pm Thanks for the reminder.

Everyone gets a maximum of 100 posts per day phase. This will lift an hour prior to the poll deadline.
Ugh this is gonna be quite painful

but maybe I won't get to 100-post anyway

Just don't wagon me D1 because it's like the hardest day for me to handle

My reads D1 are prob going to be shit, they take some new flips to adjust
I tunnel you every game so I'm gonna try not to do this for once

But I hate this opening... send help

Seems like you have issues with my playstyle, not my actual alignment.

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:01 pm Not sure what you mean when you say you get bored?

It seems like you disappeared right at the start of the game and then didn't read anything.

Yeah, I tend to get bored before I even enter the thread.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:47 pm Bomething Romething Aomething Domething

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:55 pm Something, Br, something, ad something something, something.

I wonder if Seanzie is being wagoned for these posts.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:20 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:19 pm I think there's a good chance I'll get bored, go missing almost the whole day and return EOD to either see a large wagon on me or lead away from wolf to a mislynch.
That’s your …. Civilian meta, is it not?

Yeah, kinda. Mostly on this site. I guess I get less bored in MU depending on the playerlist.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:19 pm I think there's a good chance I'll get bored, go missing almost the whole day and return EOD to either see a large wagon on me or lead away from wolf to a mislynch.

I am about to fill this prophecy.

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:52 pm Personally I'm not a fan of the Seanzie wagon as I'm seeing people vote there with little or no reasoning.

Oh right it would be nice to know why Seanzie is being voted.

What are your all thoughts on Michelle and Lime Coke?

I believe they should be the easiest players to read right now and it seems like they're actually posting content so they're more likely to be town.

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:52 pm If you look at all the "active players" at any moment in this thread and think "they're all town" then you're either a huge sucker, or non-town yourself.

Oh yeah

I'd be pretty concerned if I were townreading all the active players unless it was like early game

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