The Syndicate

Did it end?

Please lynch Mac and Seanzie tomorrow

Goddamn will we ever flip one wolf this game?

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:57 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:55 pm Mac, I know you’re excited to get to the “guess the zealot” portion of the game but come on.
lol so is mac the zealot? w/w with seanzie?

and like u all decided to collectively openwolf coz u have a lock win? how do u have a lock win lmao

wait is sig town....

Yes Mac and Seanzie were wolves all the time

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:56 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:55 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:54 pm Guys I think mac just outed him being partnered with spf
Are you all trolling?
Yeah have fun getting elimmed or whatever

This game was incredibly frustrating

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:55 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:55 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:54 pm Guys I think mac just outed him being partnered with spf
Are you all trolling?
yea idk what happened lmao

I think it's wolves winning

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:54 pm Guys I think mac just outed him being partnered with spf

Are you all trolling?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:53 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:53 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:52 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:51 pm What are wolves doinv
They are Mac, Seanzie, Tutuu, Porscha and SPF. We didn't stand a chance fam.
Unironically this might be the team
So you think sig is town?

If he is town we're prob losing so I am hoping he isn't

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:52 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:51 pm What are wolves doinv
They are Mac, Seanzie, Tutuu, Porscha and SPF. We didn't stand a chance fam.

Unironically this might be the team

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:51 pm What are wolves doinv

Popping up bottles most likely

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:48 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:47 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:46 pm What the hell happened to the Sig wagon?

Why?
Didnt you say you were just waiting for either of creature and Sig to die at some point? Well you got your wish.
Aye, Creature is still fine I suppose.

Why though, did everyone wait till EoD to play?

It was boring me

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:46 pm What the hell happened to the Sig wagon?

Why?

Other wagons happened

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:45 pm i dont feel like creature is posting like a villager that is about to die.

I still can't figure who is wolf here and I am really low energy

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

Can't even post appropriate videos

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Yeh we're quite screwed and I can't even finish watching the Sandman

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:19 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:17 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:15 pm i guess creature dying. ill stay on the dennis wagon with him.

kinda romantic when u think about it. me and creature. us against the world. dying together on the sinking boat.
Alright that or sig
both good, just depending on how we get the votes by other players.

can u be here until eod? im here just trying to kill any of my scumreads

sig, falcon, dennis, spf, jack is my solve

I want to watch Sandman but I'll prob try to follow this game alongside

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:15 pm i guess creature dying. ill stay on the dennis wagon with him.

kinda romantic when u think about it. me and creature. us against the world. dying together on the sinking boat.

Alright that or sig

Damn I feel useless

I should prob stay away from this game.

I veto the tutuu wagon.

I prob won't oppose the sig wagon as much.

I'm doing Dennis mostly for tutuu and because I agree that he seems to be left off the hook too easily.

I'll give Sabi space for now.

Also I would like to know where you all stand on falcon.

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

because tutuu's here

Goddamn I couldn't find anything in Rondo's ISO.

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:56 pm What don't you like about it? Cuz I just thought she didn't wanna screw over her sub with no card

"I voted Dennis for the lolz"

but I didn't consider the voting to get a card part.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:49 pm The fact that half the people that killed Alison are on Roxy doesnt fill me with confidence but then again if they are wolf they would want to bus

Jack, Dennis and tutuu were the players who voted Alison D2 and then Roxy D3.

Kate wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:58 pm I asked for a sub, but it has not come through yet. I voted for Dennis for the lolz

Yeah I don't like this

[VOTE: Sabiplz] aubergine

Dennis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:42 pm I don't think I care enough to catch up like 300 posts right now so hello thread

Okay looking at this page it's a bunch of wagon analysis which goes right over my head but I can try

So what is it that you're using to determine whether there are wolves on wagon or not?

I was trying to predict where wolves would be in the wagons but I am prob confbiasing with my already preexisting reads.

Ok I think I'm tripping. I'd say sig, Dennis and Kate/Sabi look the worse votewise.

Creature
3
14%
Voters: Sabiplz, DrWilgy, falcon45ca

tutuu
3
14%
Voters: MacDougall, Bereft, sig

I think EOD3 is also likely to contain wolves outside the Roxy wagon, although it depends on tutuu's alignment.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:56 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:52 pm If alison is mafia i feel like 2 or maybe 3 of the people vehemently pushing her are also mafia

Looking at jack and sig

A possible explanation for the behavior "alison maf, i aint moving, nu-uh, nothing else exists i put my hands on my ears lalalalala" is an orchestrated bus, maybe alison has exams or something she always has exams :P

(I still have an unconfident townread on her, just exploring an option)
Aww darn you got me but I guess I’ll double down and hope for the best. Maybe reverse psychology will keep you from yeeting Alison, who is wolves with me.

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:58 pm [VOTE: alison] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:06 pm I was thinking to myself during the EOD that there was no way Fingersplints was going to flip mafia cuz it's just never fair like that but god damn I couldn't have really found anyone more likely to be mafia than them.

Oh well.

Time for a patented Mac flip flop.

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:06 pm Bet

I want to kill Alison and then the people pushing her regardless of her flip

So im set on Alison > Jack > Sig atm

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:16 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:13 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:08 pm What caused the sudden change from "Don't kill Alison this is just how she plays" to "Let's get Alison's head. NOW."
There is a concept in mafia known as "resolving the counterwagon". The idea is that by flipping the top two wagons D1, if one is town and the other is mafia, we can out the whole mafia team by analyzing who was on which wagon. The weakness of this strategy is if both players flip town, which gives us two fruitless days and nothing to show for it. In this case, however, if I flip town I am guaranteed to out multiple mafia with me so it's a good trade.

I think the proposed strategy is logical.
If you're sure

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

The in-thread votes on Alison. Then there was also Neon and sig silently voting while Mac moved out.

Alison
6
40%
Voters: falcon45ca, Neon, Jackofhearts2005, tutuu, sig, Dennis

I think this wagon should likely contain wolves if wolves were planning to activate the moon on Alison. Maybe not along the last voters though.

Ok so sig, Dennis and Kate look the worse EOD1.

I still wonder what would be sig's wolf motivation yesterday but meh this is prob weak.

Baudib1: 2
DrWilgy
Seanzie

Roxy: 2
Creature
Dennis

Dennis : 1
Kate

Missed the Vote: 1
Porscha

Those were the players who ended up offwagon EOD1. I guess DrWilgy and Seanzie were on baudib1 when baudib1 was a larger wagon. If Mac is looking for the wolf on Roxy then Dennis may be the one. Kate's vote on Dennis also feels really meh. Porscha not voting anyone may be actually a good look.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:08 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:03 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:55 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 7:17 pm So the end of day 2 wagon is interesting.

Roxy 4: Creature, Baudib1, Alison, Lucy

What chance of this wagon being pure pure given the context?

I wouldn't imagine that the entire mafia team stacks Alison.

There's already two dead town and the other is Oracle.

I think this just outs Creature?
Of course because wolves are mechanically obliged to be present in every wagon with four votes
Mafia are obligated to vote. They are obligated to vote in a way that achieves mafia goals. They are disinclined to vote in a way that causes lockstep. There are very few places they can reasonably be on day 2. One of those is voting Roxy. You are the only non confirmed town voting there. Why would there not be a mafia voting there? If you are town why are one of the 5 mafia not voting Roxy? When you give me your answer, I expect you to then have a much narrower POE because if you are town, you have a perfect understanding of what the mafia actually actively did on day 2. The fact you haven't been solving with this in mind already is indicative of lack of town solving mindset imo.
It's not that uncommon for a four-vote wagon to be pure and afair there were other Roxy voters D1 and D2. I remember Dennis was one of them.

but I'm in terms that in a TvT day wolves are more likely to be offwagon.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:03 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:55 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 7:17 pm So the end of day 2 wagon is interesting.

Roxy 4: Creature, Baudib1, Alison, Lucy

What chance of this wagon being pure pure given the context?

I wouldn't imagine that the entire mafia team stacks Alison.

There's already two dead town and the other is Oracle.

I think this just outs Creature?
Of course because wolves are mechanically obliged to be present in every wagon with four votes
Mafia are obligated to vote. They are obligated to vote in a way that achieves mafia goals. They are disinclined to vote in a way that causes lockstep. There are very few places they can reasonably be on day 2. One of those is voting Roxy. You are the only non confirmed town voting there. Why would there not be a mafia voting there? If you are town why are one of the 5 mafia not voting Roxy? When you give me your answer, I expect you to then have a much narrower POE because if you are town, you have a perfect understanding of what the mafia actually actively did on day 2. The fact you haven't been solving with this in mind already is indicative of lack of town solving mindset imo.

It's not that uncommon for a four-vote wagon to be pure and afair there were other Roxy voters D1 and D2. I remember Dennis was one of them.

Maybe I am pocketed but I like tutuu for trying to work with me. They could've just followed the creature wolfreading circlejerk for all day as they already wolfread me.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 7:22 pm So in the day 1 tvt

Wilgy
Creature
Dennis
Kate

abstained from participating.

Always multiple mafia off wagon in the context. Further evidence for the POE.

This is more legit though

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 7:17 pm So the end of day 2 wagon is interesting.

Roxy 4: Creature, Baudib1, Alison, Lucy

What chance of this wagon being pure pure given the context?

I wouldn't imagine that the entire mafia team stacks Alison.

There's already two dead town and the other is Oracle.

I think this just outs Creature?

Of course because wolves are mechanically obliged to be present in every wagon with four votes

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 7:10 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:50 pm I can't figure out who is most likely wolf and I'm afraid it's too late

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:52 pm Hail Mary

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine
Hail Mary?

There's 24 hours left in this day.

lol yeah I thought EOD was today and I also wanted to shake up the current wagons

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 7:02 pm Creature, SPF, Mac, Bereft, Seanzie, Falcon, Lucy

Leaving

Tutuu, Jack, Wilgy, Sig, Porscha, Sabi, Dennis

What made you change on SPF/Mac/Bereft?

Bereft wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 7:01 pm Jack/Sabi/Wilgy/Dennis/Falcon

Is that your town list or wolf list?

Bereft wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:58 pm How in the flying saucers are you Sig and tutuu all town.

Explain to me.
Explain.

If we are wolves then what the fuck are we doing? What's our plan?

Someone pointed the way sig handled Roxy yesterday was unlikely to come from wolf yesterday as it would make them look too bad.

I confess I started the day suspecting tutuu but lately tutuu reeked to me as someone fighting off the so far wolfsided status quo.

Perhaps I am missing something and maybe tutuu is just fucking with me but I know this following level zero reads ain't working so far.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:36 pm I have quite literally just been wanting Sig/Creature to go over today on the concept 1. most likely wolf. 2. They help me find Tutuu on flip.

Have my posts really been that hard to decipher?

Watch this be all town

Hail Mary

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

I can't figure out who is most likely wolf and I'm afraid it's too late

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:36 pm I have quite literally just been wanting Sig/Creature to go over today on the concept 1. most likely wolf. 2. They help me find Tutuu on flip.

Have my posts really been that hard to decipher?

Good chances lynching me and sig will show you all the wolves

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:59 pm anyway creature i like ur playstyle, and i rly like ur sense of humor, i like how ur keeping ur wim up.

earlier i gave u a boost, now u gave one to me

best friends forever

ok, ill keep my wim up. it helps that ur also seeing dennis and bereft as mafia, it helps me a ton

tbh I don't have much to lose. If the other names in the holy consensus POE turn out to be wolves then lol me.

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