The Syndicate

A townflip is really mood breaking and I'll need my mood intact for the studying.

Still wishing we can just hit wolf today so I can better study for the next week which will have like three exams.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 4:04 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 4:03 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 3:59 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 3:51 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 11:18 am
BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 11:09 am [VOTE: dyslexicon] aubergine
[VOTE: BoKnows] aubergine

Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
This really made me sad...

I am iso-ing Sabie and came across this.
Alison, Seanzie and nutella are still the kills I most mourn about. At least Alison was killed by wolf.
Sig shooting Nutella was sad too.

Seanzie his lynch... sadly all wagons were town.
Seanzie shouldn't have died but Town followed TSP.

tbh TSP was one of the players constantly sheeping me and I think I was the first one to vote Seanzie only to be sheeped by TSP. I eventually unvoted Seanzie and then suspected TSP for sheeping me after I learned it was a mislynch.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 4:03 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 3:59 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 3:51 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 11:18 am
BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 11:09 am [VOTE: dyslexicon] aubergine
[VOTE: BoKnows] aubergine

Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
This really made me sad...

I am iso-ing Sabie and came across this.
Alison, Seanzie and nutella are still the kills I most mourn about. At least Alison was killed by wolf.
Honestly though reading back that was actually kind of funny with in the context of NAA's role with NAA screaming how Alison is Mafia and not to shoot or lynch her and Alexa telling him to resend or she shoots when he couldn't.

I suspected alexa could have very well used that as an excuse to shoot Alison, but I didn't follow through because I felt bad for alexa.

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 4:03 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 3:59 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 3:51 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 11:18 am
BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 11:09 am [VOTE: dyslexicon] aubergine
[VOTE: BoKnows] aubergine

Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
This really made me sad...

I am iso-ing Sabie and came across this.
Alison, Seanzie and nutella are still the kills I most mourn about. At least Alison was killed by wolf.
Sig shooting Nutella was sad too.

Seanzie his lynch... sadly all wagons were town.

Welp. Seanzie was like one of the most useful town and game could've gone differently had he lived to D2.

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 3:51 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 11:18 am
BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 11:09 am [VOTE: dyslexicon] aubergine
[VOTE: BoKnows] aubergine

Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
This really made me sad...

I am iso-ing Sabie and came across this.

Alison, Seanzie and nutella are still the kills I most mourn about. At least Alison was killed by wolf.

tbh Sloonei's wolf equity goes up if LP is town.

If dyachei and sabie12 are mafia:

Mislynch LP
6 v 2
Soup kill falcon45ca, Belzy and Porscha
3 v 2
sabie12 uses vigilante kill?
2 v 2

Meh

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:39 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:36 pm I hope LP flips wolf so maybe we can have Sloonei claim their info tomorrow.
Have I not resolved myself through sheer force of will yet?

No, you're still POE with JPIC, sabie12 and dyachei.

Seanzie shot KZA even earlier ftr

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:36 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:35 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:32 pm It is just...

If Dya is town, why shoot that early already Marmot? Is it really a scum tactic?

And if so... why? That is so dirty play.
If dya is town, killing Marmot helps further her wincon by killing wolf.

If dya is wolf, killing Marmot seems to have worked to give her plenty of cred to live this long.

So this worked for either alignment PoV.
Do you think a townDya would shoot Marmot that early? It was really soon.

I thought we were already discussing shots at the time?

I hope LP flips wolf so maybe we can have Sloonei claim their info tomorrow.

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:32 pm It is just...

If Dya is town, why shoot that early already Marmot? Is it really a scum tactic?

And if so... why? That is so dirty play.

If dya is town, killing Marmot helps further her wincon by killing wolf.

If dya is wolf, killing Marmot seems to have worked to give her plenty of cred to live this long.

So this worked for either alignment PoV.

Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:29 pm Lp is the obvious scum rn, no?

I hope so

Also rooting for Chelsea because I don't want the other team to win

Still discouraging when we struggle to find wolf. I'm used to one name sticking out as most likely wolf and not to townread more players than the confirmed number of town alive.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:24 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:23 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:21 pm I know Dya has been having stuff going on irl. But I think it would be a mistake to let that slot skate-by
Agreed.

If they didn't shot Marmot, i would scumread Dya for sure. So maybe it is Dya afterall.

Is Dya+LP a thing?
My only pause is they are defending sabie, a slot that was in the PoE and would have been a free misyeet

Yeah, I believe if dya is wolf they are more likely with sabie

If LP is wolf, that's alright, I believe we'll eventually catch the last one. If LP is town that's when we should be worrying.

idk I'm too tired to be tinfoiling right now

It sorta bothers me dyachei has been mostly voting wrong after the Marmot kill.

Btw, has anyone kept track of dyachei's votes? Besides Marmot, I don't remember dyachei really finding wolf.

I guess I can't process my mind until I see LinearPoint's flip. If LP flips wolf, then that confirms Belzy and Porscha and at least eliminates paranoia on the dyachei + sabie12 team. If LP flips town, then the team is either JPIC + Sloonei or we're doing something really wrong.

I know. It's just that the silent voteparking on the same name is always unsettling even if there's exactly only one mafia left.

I am somewhat afraid of it being dyachei + sabie bullshitting about BTSC

Has anyone tried to read alexa for spews? She was probably the deepest wolf so she's less likely to be setting her partners up.

Weirdly it has been mostly the POE posting

I hope this isn't DADV

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 7:03 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 6:50 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:04 pm hollowkatt (16): Creature, LinearPoint, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, Sloonei, dyachei, falcon45ca, alexa, sabie12, Phil and Gloria
sig (11): Sloonei, Belzy, Porscha, falcon45ca, alexa, sabie12, LinearPoint, Phil and Gloria, Justplayingitcool
112 (10): Sloonei, Porscha, TonyStarkPrime, alexa, dyachei,
Guillotine (9): 112, Creature, Sloonei, dyachei, Justplayingitcool, LinearPoint,
DrWilgy (8): TonyStarkPrime, dyachei, sabie12, LinearPoint
TonyStarkPrime (8): Porscha, Belzy, Justplayingitcool, falcon45ca
sabie12 (5): alexa, falcon45ca, Phil and Gloria
c4e5g3d5 (4): Phil and Gloria, TonyStarkPrime, Belzy

Hmmmm...was the TSP wagon pure?

In order for it to be impure:
a) Belzy and Porscha would need to be wolves together
or
b) JPIC would need to be wolf

Somewhat by VCA it points LP + Sloonei

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:19 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:15 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 2:10 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 2:08 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 08, 2022 2:06 pm Urge to claim rising. I have mech which can confirm me as town.
You defended both Dizzy and Mac. Called them town, for one simple little reason, never voted them... you vote a lot of townie, and spared Tsp while making a weird scrunity post. You have protected literally every known mafia player.
I never defended Dizzy. Dizzy was dead before I was really involved with the game. Marmot too.

I did think Mac was town for a while. So did everyone else.

I still have mech which can confirm me as town.
Can you confirm yourself?
The option exists, but I would prefer not to do that at this time. Soup, and I also think it should be possible for you all to town-read me without my role being made public. Dizzy, Mac, and Alexa all treated me in ways that would be wacky if I was on a team with each of them.

Yeah, I think that can be done when you're the top lynch contender. I guess if we're set on LinearPoint that's somewhat pointless.

If JPIC is wolf it means I've underestimate his wolfgame. Almost all of his posts lately felt like towncasing himself yet those posts sort of made me townlean him.

If all that is correct and sabie12 is not being pocketed by dyachei, then it is likely a combination of LinearPoint + one of you (Sloonei) or JPIC.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:45 pm At least if LinearPoint flips wolf Belzy/Porscha will be fully confirmed.

Oh, there's also that kill on Mac that makes me kinda doubt alexa and Belzy are wolves together with Mac.

There's dyachei and sabie12. dyachei seems pretty confident sabie12 is town and I think dyachei tends to have pretty good reads. Not sure if sabie12 is being pocketed by dyachei though.

At least if LinearPoint flips wolf Belzy/Porscha will be fully confirmed.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:44 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:42 pm I guess I'm already getting bored from this game.
I still feel that there is a lot that we can be doing to help settle things. If LinearPoint is mafia, we need to find their teammate. If LinearPoint is town, we need to figure out where we've gone wrong.

idk I'm following the philosophy of one wolf at a time. I don't want to preflip LinearPoint here.

Degrees of confidence from most town to least town:

Creature
falcon45ca

Belzy/Porscha

dyachei/sabie12

Sloonei
Justplayingitcool

LinearPoint

Belzy
Creature
dyachei
falcon45ca
Justplayingitcool
LinearPoint
Porscha
sabie12
Sloonei

At least now we have a decent chance to win.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:42 pm I guess I'm already getting bored from this game.

If I wasn't already.

I guess I'm already getting bored from this game.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:50 pm Can someone remind me about Belzy & Porscha?

Like, if they're confirmed, why/how, and why are they still alive?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:46 pm Possible one doesn’t exist and ilario lied partly about his wincon

Wait did ilario say there was a lost wolf?

I think wolf!sabie both had the opportunity to claim roleblocked (when she didn't shoot Paopan N3) and claim the kill on DrWilgy (who makes a hell lot more sense as a town kill than a wolf kill) yet she didn't.

Without that, I think that still leaves for dyachei using their shot on Marmot D1 when wolves started low in numbers and for sabie she claiming night vigilante.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:30 pm Do we have reason to believe a godfather exists?

No, not at all. I think role selection somewhat excludes it from existing.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:25 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:19 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:17 pm That said, I still think we should spend the bulk of this day reaffirming our town reads. The next 24 hours are very busy for me, so I won't be much help. But I think it's wise to spend this time going over the players we've ruled out just in case we've missed anything. The last wolf may be hard to find, but if we lock everybody else in as town, there is nowhere to hide.
I won't be of much help tonight either. But the people I have ruled out so far are: creature, falcon, belzy and porscha

I assume that is everybody's list of people who are ruled out
If we feel that our cleared players are secure enough, we can just try to find town in the remaining players: you, me, sabie, LP, dya.

sabie and dyachei seem to be townreading each other off the BTSC.

JPIC and Sloonei definitely powerwolfing here

Godfathers are hard. At least I know I'm not one.

[VOTE: LinearPoint] aubergine

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