The Syndicate

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:09 am self vote time

Okay.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Also lol just realized Sabiplz silently OMGUS voted me.

Oh lol Mac is selfvoting too

What is going on with this game?

This game just makes me sad.

[VOTE: Sabiplz] aubergine

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 11:51 pm Okay, so I guess everyone is ignoring we’ve got two oracles claims then

I think Rondo's just trolling.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 11:20 pm my frustration right now is less about being voted and more about what i perceive as a general lack of communication, which is an issue that extends beyond my slot. i am cranky and tired right now so i should probably stop posting until i get some sleep

that said i would appreciate if anyone who is around can read through the wallpost i made earlier on this page and give me any thoughts they have. i would find it helpful for my own solving rn

I am also feeling pretty tired. I just finished watching the finale of Alice in Borderland.

tbh I've already voiced my concern about you listing me alongside three of my wolfreads then saying I was wolfsiding. Also the points I see you use against me feel like the same recycled shit. Whenever I have a read on someone you go "creature is being confident he must be wolf" even though nowhere I implied being confident on it.

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 11:28 pm Bereft
Rondo
Creature
Seanzie
Dennis

Sig
Kate
Porscha
Falcon

Tutuu
DrWigly
Kate

Jack
Roxy

People who can fool me who i don't have as lock town, nor do i particularly townread, but we shouldn't kill:
spf
mac

Why do you have sig and Kate so high?

(wait you listed Kate twice)

Shit there's bad stuff going on in Brazil right now and I can't focus on this game.

Oh there was also tutuu wolfreading me for "being w/w" with Roxy and sig despite me repeatedly pushing them all game but tbh I think this is too stupid of a logic for wolves to push so tutuu's still town.

Jack repeatedly endorsing this logic though is a pretty bad look for him because I expect town!Jack to be a lot smarter than that.

Roxy + Jack + Sabi + sig + DrWilgy is still my solve roughly thia order.

Roxy atp I feel is pretty much in antispew and I think yesterday was orchestrated a save on them.

Jack's case on Alison was shit and now it feels like he's behind the bushes waiting for someone to make a shitty push to quickly endorse it.

Kate was wolfy D1 and I feel like Alison's points against her were right. Sabi has been pretty unsatisfying so far.

sig and DrWilgy honestly I'm unsure and am mostly following what others say about them.

Anyway I'm starting to get paranoid of staypositivefriend because she tried to group me with three of my wolfreads (Roxy/Jack/sig) and accused me of wolfsiding with them. Also I feel like spf has dropped off today.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:55 am Ok if im gonna confess i might as well fully confess - i approached writing those wilgy posts from a lie - like i already wanted to say hes town and then i tried to justify it later

Alright.

tbh I find at least three players wolfier than DrWilgy atp (Roxy, Jack, Sabi). Maybe four as DrWilgy and sig are interchangeable in my reads.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:07 am 1. Most of the players are saying dont sheep lucy
leads to
2. Some of these players have to be mafia
leads to
3. Lucy wants to kill Wilgy
leads to
4. Mafia is imo more likely to use their TMI on wilgy town to discredit lucy and be on the right side of his story, than to blatantly defend a teammate like that. They look bad if wilgy flips mafia
leads to
5. Yet another reason to townread wilgy

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:19 am Its mostly the outed wolf roxy that gave me that impression

If roxy is mafia do we all agree she spewed wilgy town?

How does Roxy being mafia spew DrWilgy town? I'm not seeing the connection between those two posts.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:32 pm bereft ur daughter of omega right?

or, ur playin under alt so it dont matter i aint prodding. was just a random thhought

Bereft being DaughterOfOmega would be spicy.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:24 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:26 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:37 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:32 pm Someone talk to me about Sig, if you want. I can't make you
They were one of the sketchiest votes on Alison and I kinda thought his D1 entrance was forced. Also it feels like his wolfread on me was pure OMGUS and was implying I was pushing him for being known LHF (when he's clearly not being LHF this game).
Why was I the sketchiest vote? This narrative makes no sense .

Can’t comment on forced D1 it’s how I always come in I was joking it’s whatever.

I am/was LHF and used to be frequently misvoted, this is a very odd take. Plus my name keeps getting brought up meaning I’m still in the mix/LHF this game
quoting that bad boss buy from pulp fiction: "I WANNA TAKE A FLAMETHROWER TO THIS PLACE"

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:21 pm Alright

DrWilgy
Jackofhearts2005
Kate/Sabiplz
Roxy
sig

Those are my top wolf picks and would lynch one of them today

Roxy > Jack > Kate/Sabi > Wilgy > sig

Alright

DrWilgy
Jackofhearts2005
Kate/Sabiplz
Roxy
sig

Those are my top wolf picks and would lynch one of them today

DrWilgy + Jackofhearts2005 + Kate/Sabiplz + Roxy + sig? Maybe RondoDimBuckle as backup.

Aw shit just lost a townread.

So I must have:

Bereft
Dennis
lucy
Seanzie (new addition)
tutuu

I'm for now taking off falcon45ca.

Prob ain't touching Mac/SPF for a while.

So leaves:

DrWilgy
falcon45ca (need more opinions)
Jackofhearts2005
Kate/Sabiplz
Porscha (someone please give a read here)
RondoDimBuckle
Roxy
sig

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:04 pm Roxy
Creature
Sig

Is my immediate poe

Alisons legacy, and i had w/w reads including these 3 names myself

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine

Oh RIP baudib1

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:55 pmHere be dragons - minimum 3 wolves her I think
Falcon
Wilgy
Sig
Roxy

Jack

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:55 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:48 pm Kill Sig
Kill Falcon
Kill Jack
Kill Wilgy
Kill Sabi
Kill Porscha
After Roxy. Kill all of these.

Would be a pleasure

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:44 pm the thought about creature in particular was in reaction to him suggesting that roxy is mafia because the moon was not used to guarantee her elimination.

My literal first reaction when day 2 ended with an Alison town flip was that wolves used it (or Rondo if he was the one who promised to be as antitown as possible). Anyway I find Roxy pretty wolfy by themselves regardless of the moon and the moon thing makes me sorta believe wolves snapped on Alison as lead to save Roxy for one more day.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:40 pm [VOTE: creature] aubergine

Jesus Christ

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:39 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:37 pm Creature
roxy
sig
jack

have to be 3 of 4 mafia for town to win?

please explain how this is a valid thought?

Alison's legacy on these 4 is 2 town, 1 null, 1 wolf btw.
alison's legacy doesn't really matter - the point is that all of these players have wolfsided so aggressively and posted so disingenuously that it is difficult for me to get to a world where:

A. i don't want to murder them

B. the rest of the game doesn't want to murder them either

but youre right that i am just venting frustration about the way the first 2 days played out more than making real gamestate analysis

It's funny that yesterday I had the other three names in your death list as my wolfreads and now you're putting me alongside them.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:37 pm Creature
roxy
sig
jack

have to be 3 of 4 mafia for town to win?

please explain how this is a valid thought?

Alison's legacy on these 4 is 2 town, 1 null, 1 wolf btw.

Also saying town will lose if there's more than one villager here is so lolstupid

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:35 pm Noting that the Baudib creature lucy endorsed roxy wagon has Mac and Dennis voting for it and nobody else.

Thoughts on the following?

Bereft
Denise
falcon45ca

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine

lucy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:29 pm i am oracle, i have no idea why i'm facing so much opposition, what do you guys think about me being openly opposed and not listened to?

is it towny? is it scummy? what purpose does it serve?

Yeah the amazing Alison-endorsed baudib1-endorsed Creature-endorsed lucy-endorsed wagon on Roxy has been repeatedly neglected for two days now.

Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:23 pm Day 1 Poll

fingersplints: 8

Alison
Baudib1
Bereft
lucy
MacDougall
RondoDimBuckle
staypositivefriend
tutuu

Alison: 6

falcon45ca
fingersplints
Jackofhearts2005
Neon
Roxy
sig

Baudib1: 2

DrWilgy
Seanzie

Roxy:

Creature
Dennis

Dennis : 1

Kate/Sabiplz

Missed the Vote: 1

Porscha

If my townreads are correct then there's most likely at least one wolf in Mac/Rondo/SPF unless wolves intentionally dodged this wagon and town hysterically plowed on finger.

Alison wagon has three of my yesterday's wolfreads but I doubt more than two wolves piled here. Roxy and Jack def look the worse here.

Also the wagons being t/t indicates at least one wolf must've ended offwagon. Kate being on Dennis is prob the worst vanity vote.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:21 pm Are you guys fucking kidding me? You seriously killed Alison. I am so fucking pissed right now. I am done for now. Ill come back later If I can give a shit

Welp that raises the likelihood wolves got moon

lucy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:20 pm5) no jack lynch today, that is final

Not even just one bite?

Day 1 Poll

fingersplints: 8

Alison
Baudib1
Bereft
lucy
MacDougall
RondoDimBuckle
staypositivefriend
tutuu

Alison: 6

falcon45ca
fingersplints
Jackofhearts2005
Neon
Roxy
sig

Baudib1: 2

DrWilgy
Seanzie

Roxy:

Creature
Dennis

Dennis : 1

Kate/Sabiplz

Missed the Vote: 1

Porscha

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:06 pm if creature roxy sig and jack contains more than one villager then this game is probably a loss

I think there's 1-2.

Roxy/Jack/sig were my top wolfreads yesterday but now I have sig back to null.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:05 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:04 pm
Baudib1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:54 pm Creature why is Falcon town?
I think falcon has been mostly trolling around (like intentionally tying wagons to spit Seanzie) and feels really careless.

Also my town list is comprised of players who I feel would have a hard time to fool us if they were wolves (except tutuu maybe) and the fact I've seen them mostly getting townread than wolfread so far makes me feel pretty good about them.
Uh, I purposely moved my vote around to avoid ties on wagons, whatchoo talking bout Willis?

I remember at some point near EOD1 you and Seanzie kept switching votes between the Alison and baudib1 wagon and I thought you were trolling Seanzie.

Oh I see Porscha's around.

Has Porscha been towny enough?

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:54 pm Creature why is Falcon town?

I think falcon has been mostly trolling around (like intentionally tying wagons to spit Seanzie) and feels really careless.

Also my town list is comprised of players who I feel would have a hard time to fool us if they were wolves (except tutuu maybe) and the fact I've seen them mostly getting townread than wolfread so far makes me feel pretty good about them.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:51 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:35 pm Roxy is my top wolfread and they should prob always go for Alison and also for the moon thing not going off on them
why do you think it's wolf indicative for roxy to have not had the moon go off on her? we don't even know the alignment of the person that used the moon. that doesn't make sense

tbh there's exactly one player who I could see activating that card as town but I think it's most likely wolves got it. I think they may have held it off if they felt the Alison wagon was picking off though so maybe not really that incriminating.

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:50 pm I actually don't know what to make of Baudib now that Alison has flipped town. Was that a townie trying to save another townie, or a wolf going all in to get Alison on their side and look better after the flip? Find out next time on Dragon Ball Z

I think baudib1 has been pretty pure regardless of Alison and like a lot of strong players testified the same. The wagon on them also felt horseshit.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:35 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:26 pm can someone pull up the votecount at the end of day one for me please?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:58 pm Day 1 Poll

Spoiler: show
fingersplints: 8
Alison
Baudib1
Bereft
lucy
MacDougall
RondoDimBuckle
staypositivefriend
tutuu

Alison: 6
falcon45ca
fingersplints
Jackofhearts2005
Neon
Roxy
sig

Baudib1: 2
DrWilgy
Seanzie

Dennis : 1
Kate

Missed the Vote: 1
Porscha

I had to piece it back together as I neglected to save it in the middle of the chaos. I also edited it into the EoD 1 post so it can be found easily.

I ended up voting Roxy both EOD1 and EOD2 ftr.

baudib1
Bereft
Dennis
falcon45ca
lucy (oracle)
tutuu

I think those are all town. Thoughts?

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:40 pm Ok so LHF is like, taking annoying pop shots that people should know is NAI but are sussing you for anyways? Nifty

Yawn yeah. LHF = slanking/lowposting/not being active enough.

If someone has a history of being LHF in a lot of games, it's NAI. If someone is usually active as town then them being LHF would be concerning.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:39 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:35 pm Roxy is my top wolfread and they should prob always go for Alison and also for the moon thing not going off on them (although it's possible wolves were expecting the Alison wagon to take lead instead).

Still would rather try some new wagons because I feel like wolves are going unpressured.
"I want Roxy to go, she's my top wolfread....also, can we get some new wagons?"

I'm not sure what to make of that

It's pressure making. You wagon someone and force them to respond/react to it so you can get a read on them and also attract others' attention.

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:33 pm Oh yeah, no one got a chance to answer me last night. What's LHF?

LHF means low hanging fruit.

Used for players who slank/lowpost usually almost every game.

Roxy is my top wolfread and they should prob always go for Alison and also for the moon thing not going off on them (although it's possible wolves were expecting the Alison wagon to take lead instead).

Still would rather try some new wagons because I feel like wolves are going unpressured.

Oh damn I screwed up the quote.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:26 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:37 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:32 pm Someone talk to me about Sig, if you want. I can't make you
They were one of the sketchiest votes on Alison and I kinda thought his D1 entrance was forced. Also it feels like his wolfread on me was pure OMGUS and was implying I was pushing him for being known LHF (when he's clearly not being LHF this game).
Why was I the sketchiest vote? This narrative makes no sense .[/vote]

I said you were one of the sketchiest (Jack is my top suspect on the Alison wagon). I kept seeing your name jumping in and out and it felt like you were trying to blend in the wagon without drawing attention.

I am/was LHF and used to be frequently misvoted, this is a very odd take. Plus my name keeps getting brought up meaning I’m still in the mix/LHF this game
I'm aware you used to be always suspected for being LHF or simply not being around. However the reasons I was suspecting you for wasn't because you weren't around but rather you felt actively wolfy.

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:32 pm Someone talk to me about Sig, if you want. I can't make you

They were one of the sketchiest votes on Alison and I kinda thought his D1 entrance was forced. Also it feels like his wolfread on me was pure OMGUS and was implying I was pushing him for being known LHF (when he's clearly not being LHF this game).

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:31 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:28 pm @lucy -

i think it's possible that this might be the same situation as d3 in da bois invitational but this time alison is you

and im in the same position too, but lacking confidence to assert the position on the chance that im wrong

do you get what im saying?
What situation would that be?

All I remember is that lucy upon being pushed got latched on lilypetal being wolf (lily was town) and kept asking to be lynched so town would follow her legacy. That was clearly a bad idea because no one was convinced even if lucy were to flip town and then lucy got mislynched.

tbh lucy was too reckless to be a wolf but we got tunneled because we deemed she was playing antitown + Pizza wanted her dead.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:24 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:23 pm Alright who can be added to the town bin?

I have:

lucy
baudib1
tutuu

I am really vibing with spf

I guess I agree with spf that Dennis seems pretty genuine town

Would prob add falcon too for doing weird stuff last EOD but meh
WHY DON'T YOU TOWNREAD ME ANYMORE YOU WERE TOWNREADING ME

I don't townread you I only wait to see whether you're hitting wolf or not to determine whether I let you live or not

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